URSOL-XT
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TheBGRigatoni
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done
chedapalooza
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What is the second ingredient?? Is that what inhibits the myostatin?
Also I wish the label said how much urso is in it (25% of the total mg of the blend??)
There is also no dosing schedule like with meals etc.. I would assume knowing how ursobolic worked n knowing what coleus does, take about 10-15 prior to meals.. Probably on a schedule where 2 caps prior to largest meal, 1 with post work out meal, 1 with another meal.. IMO which is speculation at best bc the label doest say
(def not bashing here)
Also I wish the label said how much urso is in it (25% of the total mg of the blend??)
There is also no dosing schedule like with meals etc.. I would assume knowing how ursobolic worked n knowing what coleus does, take about 10-15 prior to meals.. Probably on a schedule where 2 caps prior to largest meal, 1 with post work out meal, 1 with another meal.. IMO which is speculation at best bc the label doest say
(def not bashing here)
TheBGRigatoni
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TheBGRigatoni
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will let you know bro..Royd will get on that..it's been crazy chit right now
chedapalooza
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TheBGRigatoni said:
Np.. Looks great so far. U can count on me buying some. Now I just have to get through these 3 bottles of ursobolic :/
Maybe you wanna Start a buyback program???
TheBGRigatoni
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maybe a pre order sale?Np.. Looks great so far. U can count on me buying some. Now I just have to get through these 3 bottles of ursobolic :/
Maybe you wanna Start a buyback program???
chedapalooza
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TheBGRigatoni said:
That could work as well lol
chedapalooza
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What's up w the little warning about possibly causing a positive urine test for elevated t? That could be Problematic for me :/
Sourdough
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really??? your Dept. regularly tests for steroid use and test???
chedapalooza
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Sourdough said:
What is the cyclo? Thanks
Sourdough
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cyclodextrin is an attachment that allows normally only lipophilic(fatty absorbing/dissolving/loving) substances be absorbed through hydrophilic (water absorbing/dissolving/loving pathways ie in the mouth under the tongue or in the buccal cavity (in the side of your cheek) so it makes it a sublingual transdermal of sorts...
This should increase the absorption of Ursolic Acid greatly... but I think to best exploit it one would want to put in in your mouth THEN swollow after some time...
This should increase the absorption of Ursolic Acid greatly... but I think to best exploit it one would want to put in in your mouth THEN swollow after some time...
chedapalooza
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Sourdough said:
So it alleviates the need for consumption w a higher fat meal/substance
mattrag
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I'm going to wait to see logs. It doesn't sound like there were testers so not sure how the dose was established or how effective it is other than on paper. Those who do buy, log it please
Im going to log it... but it will be on my cycle....
dlucks
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that's my kind of language!
Sourdough
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honestly figuring out the dose REALLY shouldnt be all that hard... if it even has a decent amount of Ursolic Acid in it its gonna work better then Ursobolic cause of the cyclodextrin... and the forskolin is a no brainer study proven ingredient even when taken all by itself... so EASY dose choice there and not expensive to add so no reason to skimpI'm going to wait to see logs. It doesn't sound like there were testers so not sure how the dose was established or how effective it is other than on paper. Those who do buy, log it please
I think it should do as marketed... with exception of myostatin inhibiting until I see some proof in study form otherwise (especially since Ive dug up studies specifically showing no effects at all on myostatin from Ursolic acid)... just dont expect it to drop 10 lbs fat and add 10lbs muscle on you over night... I would think best results on this would be seen when run for 12 weeks.
TheBGRigatoni
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i will let you know
chedapalooza
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jwa254 said:
Take the 25% of the total mg on the label
(I THINK) and that's what u get
So:
1280 mg blend x .25%= 320mg UA per 4 caps= 80mg UA per cap.. I could be completely wrong though so do not quote me. I know the math is right, but the formula could just be made up lol
dlucks
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I thinks it's just 25% extract like ursobolic, but idk that was just my first thought
jwa254
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See, that would make sense if it was 1280mg of say Rosemary. They'd then get 320mg of UA from that being its 25%. However, there can't be 1280mg of Rosemary (or wherever FRL is extracting the UA form) being there is also cyclodextrin, piperine, and forskolin.
^Exactly.
chedapalooza
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No u guys r prob right.. Bc 450 at 9/day with ursobolic is the minimum.. I would be skeptical if only getting 320 per 4 caps..
Hopefully we can get a # at some point
Hopefully we can get a # at some point
jwa254
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lol this is why I asked because AT MOST you'd get 320mg per 4 caps (this is if ALL 1280mg was Rosemary, but it's not) so if the label is 100% correct, you're actually getting less than 320mg per 4 caps.
Hopefully, the 1280mg does not take into consideration the mg of product the UA is extracted from. This is what I'm figuring at least.
baldymcgee
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good luck trying to mega dose this without gettting the sh!ts from the forskolin
chedapalooza
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baldymcgee said:
I love sh!tting. It's my favorite past time
bdcc
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Yes, they said they couldn't get enough into the capsules to have a normal amount of capsules as a serving.
AutoKal47
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Ja, I remember reading it, maybe caps on this one are bigger?
bdcc
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They are the size of ostrich eggs. 
On a serious note, there were issues about getting the capsule serving size down so the question is have FRL solved the problem PA had in this respect. I would have thought it the cyclodextrin complex was possible that PA would have come out with it himself.
On a serious note, there were issues about getting the capsule serving size down so the question is have FRL solved the problem PA had in this respect. I would have thought it the cyclodextrin complex was possible that PA would have come out with it himself.
Sourdough
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not as likely honestly... he doesnt have it in any of his other products and you dont typically see him come out with stuff thats like that at all...
FRL or AMS on the other hand uses Cyclo in most their line up, so it makes sense to them to just stick it on there and give it a go....
FRL or AMS on the other hand uses Cyclo in most their line up, so it makes sense to them to just stick it on there and give it a go....
TheBGRigatoni
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You guys are making my Friday..some funny chit.. speaking of
TheBGRigatoni
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im sure Royd will jump in soon with q/aWe love to contemplate.
Still on the fence about the dose and delivery on this product. Can't press order button just yet lol.
Sourdough
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4ad products??? thats goin back!!! in fact thats goin back to square one for PA!
Im sure he used it then when he was passionate about increasing efficacy of hormones but having not used it since and having the ability to sell people 3 bottles of Ursobolic a month off his name associated with bringing another new thing to the market I think makes him not ignorant but a businessman... and a smart one at that...
I still think the possibility is it didnt occur to him in this situation or just didnt feel the need to bother to sell more BUT it DID occur to FRL to do such a thing given their ties to AMS and basically the whole AMS line being Cyclo products with the few powder exceptions...
Im sure he used it then when he was passionate about increasing efficacy of hormones but having not used it since and having the ability to sell people 3 bottles of Ursobolic a month off his name associated with bringing another new thing to the market I think makes him not ignorant but a businessman... and a smart one at that...
I still think the possibility is it didnt occur to him in this situation or just didnt feel the need to bother to sell more BUT it DID occur to FRL to do such a thing given their ties to AMS and basically the whole AMS line being Cyclo products with the few powder exceptions...
TheBGRigatoni
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you got it mang
Royd The Noyd
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Hey guys sorry for the delays in replies. We had all sorts of issues come up and we needed to fix them.
Originally the plan was to complex the UA in cyclodextrin. We wanted to do this because it increases the solubility of UA 200 times. But we got bad news.
We used a new manufacturer, who basically priced it as complexed. We thought we were good to go. By the time they completed and we had labels printed and we tested the final product we found all they did was blend our UA with cyclodextrins. They didn't actually complex it which is what really matters. At this point we went back to them but they want to charge a ridiculous amount for complexing the product. Egh
So where does that leave us. The cyclo in the product doesn't actually improve solubility. So this is just plain ole UA.
However the additions of piperine and forskolin still work well with UA. We are also continuing to pursue a manufacturer who can appropriately complex the cyclos.
FRL sincerely apologizes for this error. But hopefully this provides some clarification.
Originally the plan was to complex the UA in cyclodextrin. We wanted to do this because it increases the solubility of UA 200 times. But we got bad news.
We used a new manufacturer, who basically priced it as complexed. We thought we were good to go. By the time they completed and we had labels printed and we tested the final product we found all they did was blend our UA with cyclodextrins. They didn't actually complex it which is what really matters. At this point we went back to them but they want to charge a ridiculous amount for complexing the product. Egh
So where does that leave us. The cyclo in the product doesn't actually improve solubility. So this is just plain ole UA.
However the additions of piperine and forskolin still work well with UA. We are also continuing to pursue a manufacturer who can appropriately complex the cyclos.
FRL sincerely apologizes for this error. But hopefully this provides some clarification.
Royd The Noyd
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I would actually run a resveratrol based product for cholesterol instead of UA. I think it would be more effective overall. Resv is underrated in this area.
TheBGRigatoni
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Thanks Royd..and yes sorry everybody as you can see we have been something busy with FRL and the buzz about our product line has been OUTSTANDING!!!!! but we love our fan base gang (no homo)
But, Royd and I will keep everybody posted on ETA
jwa254
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I went ahead and purchased two bottles. I've heard good things about FRL as a company so I figured the gamble is worth it. I have 1.5 bottles of ursobolic left that I'll be finishing up before I switch over to try Ursol-XT, though. I started out with 4 bottles of ursobolic and have been running at 9/day mostly (I've ran a few cheat days at 12/day). I know it's purely anecdotal (however, most customer reviews are), but I'm visibly leaner and weight hasn't fluctuated more than a pound. I've also noticed some appetite suppression as well. I figure, if anything, Ursol-XT will be sufficient enough to produce results regardless of whether the cyclodextrin truly helps or not.
If the dose of UA per 4 caps turns out to be too low for my tastes, I'll trying adding 1-2 caps of ursobolic with it.
Edit: I see Royds post claims exactly what I was figuring. PA had said in another thread that the cyclo had to be complexed. Like I said, no big deal. I'm probably going to just switch back and forth between EPharm and FRL if Ursol-XT checks out. I don't understand why some people on this board have an undying loyalty to a company or make it a mission to bash anything that comes out of someone's mouth (no names, they know who they are).
If the dose of UA per 4 caps turns out to be too low for my tastes, I'll trying adding 1-2 caps of ursobolic with it.
Edit: I see Royds post claims exactly what I was figuring. PA had said in another thread that the cyclo had to be complexed. Like I said, no big deal. I'm probably going to just switch back and forth between EPharm and FRL if Ursol-XT checks out. I don't understand why some people on this board have an undying loyalty to a company or make it a mission to bash anything that comes out of someone's mouth (no names, they know who they are).