Ursa Major

[rascal14]

I thought I saw somewhere but just to confirm - is this safe for women? Any contraindications with other medicines known? Birth control, antidepressants, etc?

Also, any sitewide discount codes before I order today, or just the routine BOGO sales?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

absolutely nonhormonal, so imo yes, it's safe to give to females. I am unaware of any.
you might try Strong supplements to see if they have any sale codes, It may be cheaper there if you can find a good code.
Apex itself just does the BOGOs, no codes.

 

[rascal14]

Out of stock there - gonna go ahead and pull the trigger from the main site with a couple 60ml bottles for the wife and I to try.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Out of stock there - gonna go ahead and pull the trigger from the main site with a couple 60ml bottles for the wife and I to try.

it's really impressive. I think you will like it. also for the wifey... she (and anyone else for that matter) can apply it at any time. even right before bed~

 

[rascal14]

it's really impressive. I think you will like it. also for the wifey... she (and anyone else for that matter) can apply it at any time. even right before bed~

Good deal, we usually do gym after work then shower. I saw a log where they applied pre workout so I wasn’t sure if that was better, or getting a clean exfoliated surface to apply to.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Good deal, we usually do gym after work then shower. I saw a log where they applied pre workout so I wasn’t sure if that was better, or getting a clean exfoliated surface to apply to.

most definitely better after a shower.

 

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[TMan86]

Using 4.5ml is when I started to see the effects anything below was not overly impressive but now I am melting away...in a good way.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Using 4.5ml is when I started to see the effects anything below was not overly impressive but now I am melting away...in a good way.

some guys just need a little more. I wish we understood the mechanix of ursa better than we do. I have over time noticed somewhat of an targeted effect. I am testing currently to see if I can produce the same effects elsewhere

 

[Renew1]

Using 4.5ml is when I started to see the effects anything below was not overly impressive but now I am melting away...in a good way.

Most people definitely don't require that high of a dosage, but I'm Stoked that you found the dosage that works well for you!!!

 

[TMan86]

Most people definitely don't require that high of a dosage, but I'm Stoked that you found the dosage that works well for you!!!

Yeah sometimes natty supps for whatever reason I require more, I am not even that big at 210lbs.

some guys just need a little more. I wish we understood the mechanix of ursa better than we do. I have over time noticed somewhat of an targeted effect. I am testing currently to see if I can produce the same effects elsewhere

Yes I noticed that a bit also, spreading it over a larger area including mid section I noticed enhanced effects,

 

[ReformedNerd]

Apologies before I ask. I'm certain the answers are here but I couldn't find them despite using the search function.

What's the recommended dosing and timing?

For dosing what I did find showed anywhere from 1mL to 5mL.

For timing what I found was after a shower but couldn't find much on timing for a second dosing (unless two showers are recommended a day ).

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Apologies before I ask. I'm certain the answers are here but I couldn't find them despite using the search function.

What's the recommended dosing and timing?

For dosing what I did find showed anywhere from 1mL to 5mL.

For timing what I found was after a shower but couldn't find much on timing for a second dosing (unless two showers are recommended a day ).

start at 1 ml and move up once you have established you can handle the heat ~

there is no need to time anything. if you want to split doses you can, but there is literally no need to do so. also, you don't have to shower before reapplying.

 

[MikeSumthin]

What's the recommended dosing and timing?

For dosing what I did find showed anywhere from 1mL to 5mL.

I do 1ml (5pumps) right when I wake up and then another 1ml after my PM shower. I think that's a good way to go.

 

[AndrewMcD]

Does this HAVE to be applied after a shower to get the most absoption?

Or can I apply apex anytime?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Does this HAVE to be applied after a shower to get the most absoption?

Or can I apply apex anytime?

anytime is fine, but after a shower is the most effective.

 

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[a.c.614]

Yeah sometimes natty supps for whatever reason I require more, I am not even that big at 210lbs.



Yes I noticed that a bit also, spreading it over a larger area including mid section I noticed enhanced effects,

Just snagged 4 bottles of this, going to try it out at 4.5ml and see what’s up since I’m 230 6’3.5.

 

[Renew1]

Just snagged 4 bottles of this, going to try it out at 4.5ml and see what’s up since I’m 230 6’3.5.

Wow, let us know how it goes

 

[a.c.614]

Wow, let us know how it goes

Hey has shipping ever been raggedy for y’all? This the first time I seen USPS slipping lol said it went from NEW BRITAIN, CT 06050 all the way to USPS Regional Facility
HONOLULU HI DISTRIBUTION CENTER lol and I’m only in Texas.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

shipping has been a mess ever since covid.

 

[a.c.614]

shipping has been a mess ever since covid.

No doubt, said it’s supposed to come through today; just excited like a kid on Christmas to try out this Ursa to see what it’s hitting for lol.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

No doubt, said it’s supposed to come through today; just excited like a kid on Christmas to try out this Ursa to see what it’s hitting for lol.

enjoy! we all do ~

 

[a.c.614]

enjoy! we all do ~

Finally got it in!! hey is it cool to apply 4ml at one time? Trying to get this started tonight!

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Finally got it in!! hey is it cool to apply 4ml at one time? Trying to get this started tonight!

yep!

 

[a.c.614]

Bruh I know it’s only been a couple of days but I think this is most definitely helping out with some inflammation in my right shoulder from playing basketball and volleyball.

It doesn’t really nag me as much, was able to throw down a couple of dunks with no issues after.

Can’t wait to see what happens in the next couple of weeks.

 

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[Stopstalking2]

I am applying 1ml In the Am and one in the Pm

I usually wake up have a light breakfast banana and yogurt) drink some aminos and then work out

If I apply the Ursa Major pre workout would sweat effect it ? How long after could I shower ? Or am I better to wait until my post workout shower ?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

I am applying 1ml In the Am and one in the Pm

I usually wake up have a light breakfast banana and yogurt) drink some aminos and then work out

If I apply the Ursa Major pre workout would sweat effect it ? How long after could I shower ? Or am I better to wait until my post workout shower ?

I would wait if you had anything less than an hour or two prior to sweat or showering

 

[Oliver Kween]

Tell me if I do something stupid

But US.MAJ+SUSATAIN seems like a good deal

US on the abs and Sustain rather on the shoulders. The result is very fast. Fast heating and stimulating dynamic shape.

After that I would like to put Dermacrine on at night before bed.

Between that I would like to insert (within 15 days) 4-andro. Oral or topic.
But I am looking for a GEL. AET 50?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Tell me if I do something stupid

But US.MAJ+SUSATAIN seems like a good deal

US on the abs and Sustain rather on the shoulders. The result is very fast. Fast heating and stimulating dynamic shape.

After that I would like to put Dermacrine on at night before bed.

Between that I would like to insert (within 15 days) 4-andro. Oral or topic.
But I am looking for a GEL. AET 50?

remember there is a lot of real estate on the lower body for transdermal. you can do everything you wish, and should it require more topicals just use the shins or tops of feet!~

 

[Oliver Kween]

remember there is a lot of real estate on the lower body for transdermal. you can do everything you wish, and should it require more topicals just use the shins or tops of feet!~

Oh yes ! Thanks

Since @Smont scared me by telling me that upper thighs and abs could convert into Oestro... :O
I pay attention.

I used Triton and Helios on the shins at night.

For the others, I will try to do on the feet and shins in the morning. Only Sustain will remain on the shoulders.

I want to accelerate fat burning on the abs.
I guess with Flashpoint + USR + SHIFT AB SolverXPG
but has different sessions during the day.
Maybe a fat burner from Chez @sns.
(still hesitant to use lipodrene elite or standard...)

 

[Smont]

Oh yes ! Thanks

Since @Smont scared me by telling me that upper thighs and abs could convert into Oestro... :O
I pay attention.

I used Triton and Helios on the shins at night.

For the others, I will try to do on the feet and shins in the morning. Only Sustain will remain on the shoulders.

I want to accelerate fat burning on the abs.
I guess with Flashpoint + USR + SHIFT AB SolverXPG
but has different sessions during the day.
Maybe a fat burner from Chez @sns.
(still hesitant to use lipodrene elite or standard...)

No, only things that have the ability to convert to estrogen will convert to estrogen. Dermacrine and 4 Andro mainly.

I'm pretty sure all apex products cannot convert to estrogen.

Something just can't magically turn into estrogen.

So take something like 4 Andro. I believe it's a 2 step prohormone to testosterone. It can convert to testosterone, estrogen and dht. Depending on where you apply it, it will convert a little more to one or the other. So applying it to the abs seems to have higher estrogen conversion.

But Triton and all the other apex products I don't believe have anything hormonal in them, they cannot convert into estrogen no matter where you apply them. You just want areas with thin skin so they absorb. @nostrum420

 

[Oliver Kween]

No, only things that have the ability to convert to estrogen will convert to estrogen. Dermacrine and 4 Andro mainly.

I'm pretty sure all apex products cannot convert to estrogen.

Something just can't magically turn into estrogen.

So take something like 4 Andro. I believe it's a 2 step prohormone to testosterone. It can convert to testosterone, estrogen and dht. Depending on where you apply it, it will convert a little more to one or the other. So applying it to the abs seems to have higher estrogen conversion.

But Triton and all the other apex products I don't believe have anything hormonal in them, they cannot convert into estrogen no matter where you apply them. You just want areas with thin skin so they absorb. @nostrum420

Okay okay!

yes for 4-andro I heard there may be an Estro conversion. I'm not learning you anything when I say that's why you have to marry it with 1-andro, And that which bothers me ( because of lethargic side etc ) , I still wonder what to pack 4-andro with. Since it requires a T-E balance. That by speaking 4-andro oral, no, after it does not matter if the other will be oral or TD

Voila, all the Apex I have, except AET and Hyperion. Will not go over sensitive areas.

 

[Smont]

I'm not understanding you.

You don't need to use 1 Andro with anything if you don't want to, I hate 1 Andro. There's no magic rule that says you have to combine anything. There's lots of different ways to do things.

But I think your under the impression that estrogen is bad, estrogen is not bad at all. If you let your estrogen get really high or really low it can be bad but estrogen is responsible for lots of good things. I don't really have time to go into details but I'm sure someone else will explain, or when I have more time after work I can explain it better

 

[Smont]

You want healthy levels of estrogen to have a good mood, build muscle and be able to get boners lol, that's the simplified version

 

[Oliver Kween]

You want healthy levels of estrogen to have a good mood, build muscle and be able to get boners lol, that's the simplified version

Yes

that's it . I want to keep a correct Testo - Estro level (I said it above). But I'm still not very good at explaining it.

I also hate 1-andro. If I had to choose, I prefer PPE (I'm just talking about a choice, no effects). I have enough info to understand that we must have the dose of estrogen for mood, libido and other benefits.

So i just want to use 4-andro without risking its estrogenic effects.


So I ask myself the question. How to limit or anticipate inconveniences by 4-andro.

The only idea I have is to use it with an estro regulator (hinb E for example). No armistane or anything.

But it's mostly how. Take 4-andro with regulator at the same time, or one in the morning and one in the evening.... etc..

 

[Smont]

Yes

that's it . I want to keep a holy Testo - Estro level (I said it above). But I'm still not very good at explaining it.

I also hate 1-andro. If I had to choose, I prefer PPE (I'm just talking about a choice, no effects). I have enough info to understand that you have to have your dose of estrogen for mood, libido and other benefits.

So i just want to use 4-andro without risking its estrogenic effects.


So I ask myself the question. How to limit or anticipate inconveniences by 4-andro.

The only idea I have is to use it with an estro regulator (hinb E for example). No armistane or anything.

But it's mostly how. Take 4-andro with regulator at the same time, or one in the morning and one in the evening.... etc..

Ok, I kind of understand you, we definitely have a language barrier.

What's your first language

 

[Oliver Kween]

Ok, I kind of understand you, we definitely have a language barrier.

What's your first language

I speak the language of Molière very dear

OK today it's a shame to bring this up

 

[nostrum420]

No, only things that have the ability to convert to estrogen will convert to estrogen. Dermacrine and 4 Andro mainly.

I'm pretty sure all apex products cannot convert to estrogen.

Something just can't magically turn into estrogen.

So take something like 4 Andro. I believe it's a 2 step prohormone to testosterone. It can convert to testosterone, estrogen and dht. Depending on where you apply it, it will convert a little more to one or the other. So applying it to the abs seems to have higher estrogen conversion.

But Triton and all the other apex products I don't believe have anything hormonal in them, they cannot convert into estrogen no matter where you apply them. You just want areas with thin skin so they absorb. @nostrum420

Teeechnically the DHEA in Hyperion could have some conversion to e but we include a mild ai in the formula.

 

[Oliver Kween]

Teeechnically the DHEA in Hyperion could have some conversion to e but we include a mild ai in the formula.

OK, thanks,

So if I get it right, In case I use Hyperion, if I add Sustain AL. I'm going to raise T and give E the advantage of taking more ground than with Hyperion alone. (Let's forget what can make T vary up and down during the day).

So to try to do something more ideal. Can I do Hyprion + Sustain + Inhibit E (one caps) or Ribrth or Viron?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

So to try to do something more ideal. Can I do Hyprion + Sustain + Inhibit E (one caps) or Ribrth or Viron?

absolutely. sounds tastey!

 

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