Unreal's Guide to Superdrol

I am so stocked up on SD I am not 100% up to date on all the new clones. Beastdrol from Mr. Supps though, look that one up.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Needto has his own opinion that OTC pct can be just fine and I know that his opinion is shaped by his experience, having witnessed dozens of users do an OTC pct with absolutely no problems. He usually endorses a pretty comprehensive OTC regimen.

I realize that most of the time, OTC pct is fine... as I've said a million times, back in the day there was no PCT at all lol...

But I personally prefer to err on the side of overkill when it comes to PCT. I like the idea of having your SERM stacked with an OTC test booster.

Last PCT i did was a lot of things... Nolva, Clomid, HCGenerate, and DAA.
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What did your nolva and clomid dosings look like? I was thinking of adding a low dose of nolva with my clomid personally just so I felt a bit more comfortable.
 
unreal wrote:
I've always wondered if i could accumulate more info on this and see if other type O's do well with ketosis and gain fat on high-carb diets.

n now equals 2, my man.

o types are supposedly old types,
bodies tuned to the dark past when hunter/gatherers lived on raw liver, bone marrow and the occasional nut.

love me some raw liver.

basically, i am allergic to carbs.
i smell a carb, and my body blows up
as if from a bad bee sting.

dairy messes me up, too.
 
UM,

Thoughts on something like an epi or halo "base" with SD added on top in a pulse fashion (rather than runnign the 2 compounds in a "bridge"? I was lookign at phantom labs phreak
 
^^you can certainly do that, although to me, half the reason to pulse is so that you can go like 6-8 weeks with minimal shutdown, so with a base you negate that, but of course you'll still get a good cycle out of it, better than an outright stack anyway because you can run it longer.
 
Wow Unreal excellent post. I have some Beastdrol and Havoc and was wondering if I could somehow use both these compounds together or in a bridge. I will use your bridge you've outlined here it's perfect for what I was wanting to accomplish. Thank you very much for this great post. I have ran a solo Beast cycle before and I really didn't get a large mass gain but my strength is what really took off. I gained 20 lbs on my flat bench alone. I went up to 30mg and had no sides what so ever so I'm lucky there I guess.
 
^Laid Off, if you used Beast and didn't gain much mass, just eat more next time. If your calories are well over maintenance, the muscle should be flying on, at least for 90% of users anyway.
 
you know i have ran 3 SD cycles...2 with PP's LV and im finishing up week 4 of Beast for a kickstart to my test cycle...and the odd thing is I haven't really noticed any real significant size increaze this go around with the Beastdrol...AND my diet for this go around has been on Point probably for the first time ever really..strength has increased tho...ppl are saying im getting bigger and i am but nothing like i would expect from a SD cycle??? i dont get it....makes me wonder if i got a weak batch
 
wolfe14 said:
you know i have ran 3 SD cycles...2 with PP's LV and im finishing up week 4 of Beast for a kickstart to my test cycle...and the odd thing is I haven't really noticed any real significant size increaze this go around with the Beastdrol...AND my diet for this go around has been on Point probably for the first time ever really..strength has increased tho...ppl are saying im getting bigger and i am but nothing like i would expect from a SD cycle??? i dont get it....makes me wonder if i got a weak batch
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IT'S BUNK.... and here comes the bunk mdrol discussion all over again lol
 
dang, this thread is still going? they should just make it a sticky (even though i've actually never read the first page. maybe I should before I recomend it a sticky? lol)
 
MY friend is taking beastdrol in which i recommended to him and i am looking bad lol. He tell me he got no strength gain and no body change. Hes eating more than before and trying to go harder but said he got no strength gain at all. i didnt know what to tell him. I've read lots of good things about it. i guess he was a non responder? btw hes on his 3rd week and started 10mg first week than 20mg 2nd week and went up to 3mg 3rd week and nothing...He go no sides no anything. I have a bottle at home waiting for me and wont try it till around sept
 
I don't know what to say either. My understanding is that the last raws checked out good for beast and I was hearing nothing but good things, now this. 30mg of SD should be noticable, that's for damn sure lol.

@TheDarkHalf, the bunk Mdrol can of worms, what terrible memories that brings up, alright when you go up to 6 caps a day of SD and it still does nothing, that's when I declared my Mdrol bunk! But apparently the batch had tested out 99.9% pure so the CEL reps just told me the product was legit and I was just doing everything wrong, which is why I got pissed off and made a big deal about it... End of story. Anyway I've cycled SD 6 or 7 times now, I know how it works ;) I wrote the guide...

@ Wolfe, that sounds weird, you don't think you're getting bigger, but people say you are, well what's the scale say and how much are your lifts up and how is this different than the last SD run? SD always seems to have the exact same effects on me so it shouldn't be any weaker. But i will say if you are cycling up into "uncharted territory" past your genetic potential that might have something to do with it, vs. a previous cycle being after a cut or something, but I'm sure you know that.

I can't offer much, but I know Beastdrol has a satisfaction guarantee so if you even THINK your bottle is bunk, you can get a full refund. PM me if you need any help with that.
 
unreal hes on his 3rd week and been on a full 30mg this week and nothing. He did chest today and was struggling with two 45's. He did only 4reps alone. He did Monsterplexx a few months ago and ik thats a horrible steroid but he said when he took that his power went up and was doing two 45's 10x's..So idk..He's talking crap about beastdrol lol. I told him when i try it ill see for myself
 
hey.

i am interested in running a pulse of super on top of hcgenerate,
at a low dose, likely 10mg in the a.m. preworkout,
for obvious reasons, i guess -
to keep the nuts up, if not boosted, throughout.
maybe run this for a full two months.

questions are-
do you see this as a viable long-term slow-gains approach?
do you think that it would be ok to run the hcgenerate during the last 3-4 weeks,
while running a natty booster stack including a weak ai under the first 4,
transitioning back into the natty booster with some I3C and maybe SAM-e,
until doing the whole thing again a while later?

additional support supps would include lecithin, l-carn l-tart, sylmarin, and so on...
 
halfhuman said:
unreal hes on his 3rd week and been on a full 30mg this week and nothing. He did chest today and was struggling with two 45's. He did only 4reps alone. He did Monsterplexx a few months ago and ik thats a horrible steroid but he said when he took that his power went up and was doing two 45's 10x's..So idk..He's talking crap about beastdrol lol. I told him when i try it ill see for myself
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there may be other factors at work here.
i dunno if these may wholly account for your friend's malaise,
but absorption might be something to consider...
when i take something that i want to make sure gets used efficiently,
i will bust the cap onto some coconut oil,
add some bioperine,
chew it up and hold it in my mouth for a while before swallowing.
or, at the very least, include these things in whatever i am drinking with the cap, itself, typically a morning wph concoction.
add some dextrose/maltodextrin to the mix, if you want.
another thing to consider is basic nutrition.
is your friend drinking enough (a lot of) water?
getting lots of B vites?
D?
calcium?
potassium?
and so on...
muscles and nerves have a difficult time doing much of anything without readily available ions in proper proportions.
 
jin said:
hey.

i am interested in running a pulse of super on top of hcgenerate,
at a low dose, likely 10mg in the a.m. preworkout,
for obvious reasons, i guess -
to keep the nuts up, if not boosted, throughout.
maybe run this for a full two months.

questions are-
do you see this as a viable long-term slow-gains approach?
do you think that it would be ok to run the hcgenerate during the last 3-4 weeks,
while running a natty booster stack including a weak ai under the first 4,
transitioning back into the natty booster with some I3C and maybe SAM-e,
until doing the whole thing again a while later?

additional support supps would include lecithin, l-carn l-tart, sylmarin, and so on...
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I think it's viable, yes. I believe in my first post I link to Dr. D's pulse thread, might want to check that out. His protocol calls for a short half steroid (SD) 3x a week and then a test booster the other 4x a week. So yes you could do this with SD and HCGenerate. What you should do with the HCGenerate is do a double dose (10 caps), but only on off days, taken in the morning. I believe that gives the proper spread.

Now as for using an AI, and then HCGenerate, i don't know. I am not even sure how the two would compare within the context of a pulse, where you are probably dosing them Tu/Th/Sat/Sun.
 
jin said:
there may be other factors at work here.
i dunno if these may wholly account for your friend's malaise,
but absorption might be something to consider...
when i take something that i want to make sure gets used efficiently,
i will bust the cap onto some coconut oil,
add some bioperine,
chew it up and hold it in my mouth for a while before swallowing.
or, at the very least, include these things in whatever i am drinking with the cap, itself, typically a morning wph concoction.
add some dextrose/maltodextrin to the mix, if you want.
another thing to consider is basic nutrition.
is your friend drinking enough (a lot of) water?
getting lots of B vites?
D?
calcium?
potassium?
and so on...
muscles and nerves have a difficult time doing much of anything without readily available ions in proper proportions.
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Thanx for the info...Yea ill let him know. Ill ask him if hes on all that.
 
UnrealMachine said:
I think it's viable, yes. I believe in my first post I link to Dr. D's pulse thread, might want to check that out. His protocol calls for a short half steroid (SD) 3x a week and then a test booster the other 4x a week. So yes you could do this with SD and HCGenerate. What you should do with the HCGenerate is do a double dose (10 caps), but only on off days, taken in the morning. I believe that gives the proper spread.
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yeah, cool!
read that thread.
really - i read THAT thread.
the entire d@^^n thing.


mostly, i am interested in the fact that some folks (like the russian) are recommending starting up on the hcgenerate before the cycle ends, but maybe just before, to kick the nuts into order and smooth the transition.

i wonder if you have any experience with this product, in this way, and could draw from that experience in speculating how it might perform under a low-dose pulse, where a cycle would "end" ever couple of days...
thus, my thoughts on running the hcgenerate consistently straight through, rather than exacerbate the rollercoaster with a double dose every other day.

UnrealMachine said:
Now as for using an AI, and then HCGenerate, i don't know. I am not even sure how the two would compare within the context of a pulse, where you are probably dosing them Tu/Th/Sat/Sun.
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there has been some debate over the proper dosage times for the ai.
i think that D recommended dosing the morning and/or night of the off day (perhaps originally the night of the off day) and some users have gone on to modify that, dosing on the night of the off day, and again during the off day morning or night or both if i remember correctly...

i would dose a weak ai (not atd!) the morning/night of the off day.

but, i wonder why not just run this straight through also?

any opinion on this one way or the other?
 
Honestly, I don't know. When I have pulsed, I have simply forgone the testbooster/AI on off days and used nothing. Those are there just to help. The theory behind the pulse is sound, so in my experience, it works just fine on its own. What I think is most important is making sure you dose all of your steroid in the morning, this is taking a note from the old "dbol bridge" idea... So this means that for pulsing, you should lift weights in the morning. Dosing all the steroid in the evening would not work the same way.
 
Nolvadex would be better than a T-booster since it blocks steroid action in the brain:

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Anyone who got nothing from a bottle of beastdrol and can prove they bought it with a receipt. I will not only refund you for the bottle my self. I will also buy you another product of your choice. That is my word.

NIp the bad beastdrol bull crap right in the bud right here right now. Beastdrol has never been and never will be bunk.

send me a pm with a receipt for it, then send me a pm with your name and address and I will send you str8 up cash in the mail refund plus buy you any other product you want. SO please feel free to contact me I will be waiting. THank you as always we care more about happy customers then anyone I know.
 
Well like I said I got strength from beast just not a lot of size. And unreal is correct I'm sure I wasn't eating enough so it was my fault. I'll be running beast again here in a couple of weeks Ive already bought my bottles. Hey unreal you do say a solo SD run should be four weeks, but on the SD/epi bridge you show only three weeks, what's the reasoning behind that? I'm assuming just to save your body the stress of a 7 week cycle? Are you against running the SD four weeks then the epi?
 
Laid off said:
Well like I said I got strength from beast just not a lot of size. And unreal is correct I'm sure I wasn't eating enough so it was my fault. I'll be running beast again here in a couple of weeks Ive already bought my bottles. Hey unreal you do say a solo SD run should be four weeks, but on the SD/epi bridge you show only three weeks, what's the reasoning behind that? I'm assuming just to save your body the stress of a 7 week cycle? Are you against running the SD four weeks then the epi?
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Thanks for the post Needto, so you see anyone having any problems gets a refund.

So in the beastdrol/epi strong bridge, the reason the SD part is only 3 weeks is because it's followed by the 4 weeks of epi for 6 weeks total. 7 weeks total gets to be a bit "heavy" by which i mean more sides, more shutdown. And of course with 4 weeks of SD the liver toxicity adds up.

So I feel like keeping it at 6 weeks is simply a bit safer. A very powerful and effective cycle, yet within reason.

There was a time on these forums when the idea of stacking methyls was a big "no no" and bridging was thought to be, well irresponsible, and the idea of a 6 week SD/Epi bridge was considered pretty extreme.
 
UnrealMachine said:
Thanks for the post Needto, so you see anyone having any problems gets a refund.

So in the beastdrol/epi strong bridge, the reason the SD part is only 3 weeks is because it's followed by the 4 weeks of epi for 6 weeks total. 7 weeks total gets to be a bit "heavy" by which i mean more sides, more shutdown. And of course with 4 weeks of SD the liver toxicity adds up.

So I feel like keeping it at 6 weeks is simply a bit safer. A very powerful and effective cycle, yet within reason.

There was a time on these forums when the idea of stacking methyls was a big "no no" and bridging was thought to be, well irresponsible, and the idea of a 6 week SD/Epi bridge was considered pretty extreme.
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Not only will I give them a refund with my own money I will buy them any other product of there choice. All they need to do is send me a receipt showing they bought the product!!!

Laid off my man. You can only gain so much size in general and you can only get fantastic size gains of the same steroid over and over again so many times. Its like doing your first cycle and then a few months later doing the same cycle and expecting to get the same kind of gains.. JUst never going to happen. Your 2nd run of beastdrol is never going to be exactly as good as your first. Your 4th 5th run of beastdrol is deff not going to be as good as your first.... That is just the way it works..

So of course your what 3rd or 4th run using beastdrol is not going to be exactly as good as your first 1 2 cycles of superdron what ever its called. Of course its not and I would never expect it to be... YOu got good strength gains and a little size that is great and shows you got a good product 3-4 superdrol cycles deep.


Beastdrol has been around about 2 years now. Out of this time I have seen maybe 3-4 people who really did have a receipt for the product and gained or at least claimed to gain nothing. Everyone else I have seen claim they gained nothing was not able to produce a prof of purchase and even then there was only like 3-4 that I had to call out on different forums across the net.

Is it un heard of for some one to not get anything out of beastdrol? Not unheard of but very very very few and far between that is for sure.
Go do a internet search for the words "non-responder" to anadrol


you will be amazed at how many threads on different forums are out there on the subject. Now some interesting facts . Superdrol is a super-saturated,or 2-reduced form of anadrol. Anadrol has a =c OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated ( reduced) with hydrogen it gives -CH3..

So yes some people out there ( very few) can be non respounders to superdrol..


But no matter what send me a pm on this forum with prof of perchase if you or a "friend" are not happy. I will take care of you like I do everyone and always have.
 
no need to get fancy.

superdrol aka methyldrostanolone or methasterone is just di methyl dht.

the addition 2a methyl helps add resistance to 3-hsb enzyme in the muscle tissue (which deactivated dht into an inactive metabolite)

anadrol is something else, and also a derivative of dht. but it's nothing like superdrol.
 
needtogetmuscle said:
Anyone who got nothing from a bottle of beastdrol and can prove they bought it with a receipt. I will not only refund you for the bottle my self. I will also buy you another product of your choice. That is my word.

NIp the bad beastdrol bull crap right in the bud right here right now. Beastdrol has never been and never will be bunk.

send me a pm with a receipt for it, then send me a pm with your name and address and I will send you str8 up cash in the mail refund plus buy you any other product you want. SO please feel free to contact me I will be waiting. THank you as always we care more about happy customers then anyone I know.
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WOW! Now that right there is awesome customer service and confidence in product! Outstanding. I have 2 bottles of Dieselbolan V2.0 which I have been PM'ing Unreal about and am going to start on Monday. After reading all the rave reviews I'm sure I'll be gaining big time with that one, especially since I get massive gains from 13 ethyl 3 methoxy every single time.
 
Perfect thanks for the help Unreal. And you too Needto, I love your products and I will continue to buy them for a long time.
 
Seems like you really know alot about superdrol, do you have any info about the stuff From Primolabs, is their product any good or a ripoff?
 
kanakafarian said:
WOW! Now that right there is awesome customer service and confidence in product! Outstanding. I have 2 bottles of Dieselbolan V2.0 which I have been PM'ing Unreal about and am going to start on Monday. After reading all the rave reviews I'm sure I'll be gaining big time with that one, especially since I get massive gains from 13 ethyl 3 methoxy every single time.
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You got that right, I've never seen customer service like you'll get at NTBM. That's the truth. I've had problems with products from other companys... Never can get a refund, let alone even possibly getting a response back from them. You can call Nate directly if you have a problem with the products. Where else can you find that?

You'll love the Diesel buddy!
 
BarbellBeast said:
You got that right, I've never seen customer service like you'll get at NTBM. That's the truth. I've had problems with products from other companys... Never can get a refund, let alone even possibly getting a response back from them. You can call Nate directly if you have a problem with the products. Where else can you find that?
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word.
 
needtogetmuscle said:
Not only will I give them a refund with my own money I will buy them any other product of there choice. All they need to do is send me a receipt showing they bought the product!!!

Laid off my man. You can only gain so much size in general and you can only get fantastic size gains of the same steroid over and over again so many times. Its like doing your first cycle and then a few months later doing the same cycle and expecting to get the same kind of gains.. JUst never going to happen. Your 2nd run of beastdrol is never going to be exactly as good as your first. Your 4th 5th run of beastdrol is deff not going to be as good as your first.... That is just the way it works..

So of course your what 3rd or 4th run using beastdrol is not going to be exactly as good as your first 1 2 cycles of superdron what ever its called. Of course its not and I would never expect it to be... YOu got good strength gains and a little size that is great and shows you got a good product 3-4 superdrol cycles deep.


Beastdrol has been around about 2 years now. Out of this time I have seen maybe 3-4 people who really did have a receipt for the product and gained or at least claimed to gain nothing. Everyone else I have seen claim they gained nothing was not able to produce a prof of purchase and even then there was only like 3-4 that I had to call out on different forums across the net.

Is it un heard of for some one to not get anything out of beastdrol? Not unheard of but very very very few and far between that is for sure.
Go do a internet search for the words "non-responder" to anadrol


you will be amazed at how many threads on different forums are out there on the subject. Now some interesting facts . Superdrol is a super-saturated,or 2-reduced form of anadrol. Anadrol has a =c OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated ( reduced) with hydrogen it gives -CH3..

So yes some people out there ( very few) can be non respounders to superdrol..


But no matter what send me a pm on this forum with prof of perchase if you or a "friend" are not happy. I will take care of you like I do everyone and always have.
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Does this any other product offer include primordials new $1000 androseries?
You said any product :)
 
I have only done two superdrol cycles, but for you guys that are having trouble with your appetites, just drink milk. So easy to get a gallon of milk down a day in 3 or 4 sittings. Buy a gatorade bottle and fill it up with milk, drink it down 4 times a day you got yourself about 160 grams of quality protein and the extra calories you need.
 
and go tooting around the house! lol. agree with the milk advice though. i was looking to up my cals about 500 or so and 3 glasses of 2% milk equals 390 calories. not bad at all - vit.D, protein..mMmmm!

fwiw..in response to the AI issue, i started taking a cap of Formadrol Extreme on off days. but im now thinking - save what i got left until the last couple weeks of my SD pulse
 
oli said:
and go tooting around the house! lol. agree with the milk advice though. i was looking to up my cals about 500 or so and 3 glasses of 2% milk equals 390 calories. not bad at all - vit.D, protein..mMmmm!

fwiw..in response to the AI issue, i started taking a cap of Formadrol Extreme on off days. but im now thinking - save what i got left until the last couple weeks of my SD pulse
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interesting dosing how is the forma ex working for you? I haven't really looked at that stuff in quite awhile how is the cycle going? and actually talkin about superdrol come to think of it superdrol with dermacrine as a base doesn't sound too bad.I haven't thought about superdrol in awhile.good bump for a great thread here
 
Mich, i'm not so sure what the Forma Ex is doing. As it is, i've taken 4 doses of superdrol (e.o.d) and maybe it's me, but i been getting really low grade headaches, slight shin discomfort, but my b.p is doing well (120's/60+ average), and the libido is down a slight bit..i figure on a 1-10 scale (10 being perfect) - it's an 8. I've taken 2 pills (on 'off' days) total of the Forma only because i've recently stumbled across some info saying incorporating 7,8 benzo-flavones?? would help to keep things happy down there. it also seems more PCT products contain that ingredient. maybe i'll notice more when i bump my SD to 20 mg. that Dermacrine base idea sounds nice too - i'm seeing a lot more people doing that with their orals. i def. would run it too if i weren't strapped for cash.
 
oli said:
Mich, i'm not so sure what the Forma Ex is doing. As it is, i've taken 4 doses of superdrol (e.o.d) and maybe it's me, but i been getting really low grade headaches, slight shin discomfort, but my b.p is doing well (120's/60+ average), and the libido is down a slight bit..i figure on a 1-10 scale (10 being perfect) - it's an 8. I've taken 2 pills (on 'off' days) total of the Forma only because i've recently stumbled across some info saying incorporating 7,8 benzo-flavones?? would help to keep things happy down there. it also seems more PCT products contain that ingredient. maybe i'll notice more when i bump my SD to 20 mg. that Dermacrine base idea sounds nice too - i'm seeing a lot more people doing that with their orals. i def. would run it too if i weren't strapped for cash.
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in the pulse thread, you will read about some guys running a dhea on off days,
some with and some without an ai,
and some with and some without a test booster.

also, some more experienced people have reported great results running mini cycles every week, instead of the eod pulse.
this is 3days on, 4 off or something like that, with the off days being a mini-pct to the 3/4 day on cycle.
on that sort of plan, derma during the on days and off during the off days seems a better idea.

actually, i have maybe 1/5 bottle of derma here and i figure on using it 2 pumps a day on off days on a pulse,
or running it 2 pumps a day at the end of an h-drol/epistane cycle.

soon, by ntbm standards, ruthless supps should have an improved version of derma coming out.
60 days instead of 27, better scent, more reliable delivery system, same price.

at that cost (50cents/day), it is affordable.
on a pulse, should last 15 weeks.
:bling:
 
thanks for the info oil I've been curious about the new form exe. I used the old version years back and really liked it.what cycle supports are you running on cycle? h. berry and tons of water works for me anytime I have those issues.I agree having a base item such as dermacrine is def a good idea.
 
just recently bought vitamin D 5000 iu caplets, 500mg vit C tabs, DHEA 25mg & 2 bottles Liv52 is on the way. will be looking into H.berry..thanks!
 
jin said:
hey.

i am interested in running a pulse of super on top of hcgenerate,
at a low dose, likely 10mg in the a.m. preworkout,
for obvious reasons, i guess -
to keep the nuts up, if not boosted, throughout.
maybe run this for a full two months.

questions are-
do you see this as a viable long-term slow-gains approach?
do you think that it would be ok to run the hcgenerate during the last 3-4 weeks,
while running a natty booster stack including a weak ai under the first 4,
transitioning back into the natty booster with some I3C and maybe SAM-e,
until doing the whole thing again a while later?


additional support supps would include lecithin, l-carn l-tart, sylmarin, and so on...
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i think my a.d.d. kicked in - so the natty booster/I3C and SAM-e will be done post-cycle? Sounds like a good plan. How about using the hcgenerate during 4th week to make it stretch into the post cycle along with ur other support supps. That way you could give your nuts a better chance to fire back up again. Unless you got enough hcgen., then dosing during last 3-4 weeks would be cool.
 
oli said:
i think my a.d.d. kicked in - so the natty booster/I3C and SAM-e will be done post-cycle? Sounds like a good plan. How about using the hcgenerate during 4th week to make it stretch into the post cycle along with ur other support supps. That way you could give your nuts a better chance to fire back up again. Unless you got enough hcgen., then dosing during last 3-4 weeks would be cool.
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yeah, man, that was the plan...
and that is the standard way to run the hcgen, starting a couple weeks or a week before pct begins...
as it is, i have dropped enough dime on natty bottled supps for this part of the year.
so, hcgen is out.
planning to use up the caps i have here,
dose 10mg super for 25 days,
start epi at 20/day during the 3rd week,
and ramp it to 30 or 40 until i run out of caps,
unless i get another bottle.
will begin the same-e when i begin the epi,
run through pct 400mg/day

going nolva as it will be a straight (enough) cycle
though i will dose the super early a.m.
and try to dose everything well before noon
until and unless i end up at 30 or 40 mg epi plus super...
then i may have to space things out.
 
oli said:
sounds nice. wish i had some dime to drop on natty supps
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truth.
natty's cost a nutsack.

actually, i started buying kilos and half kilos.
just storin the stuff.
send a lot to my brothers.
build your own activate extreme (dosed higher!) is less than like 50cents a day.
build your own toco-8 is even cheaper, about 10cents.
 
Unreal Machine, any thoughts on pulsing Epistane on a M-Drol stack? Epistane would only be taken 3 days a week.

M-Drol = 10/20/20/20
Epistane = 0/0/30/40/40/40
 
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