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Unloading prohormone inventory for the ban?

custom said:
That's 50,000 more anabolic...moron. :D

In regards to poor old VPX and their "ungodly overhead and expenses"...why does not Wal-Mart, the nation's largest non-government employee and world's largest retailer at close to 2 billion per year...have insane prices because of operational expenses?
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With all do respect you can't compare Wal-Mart to a company such as VPX. The sports nutrition industry is a small niche market. We are not selling skittles, toilet paper, and WD-40.

Custom, I have alot of respect for your company and products, but here is what I want you to do. Put 75 people on payroll, advertise in ever major magazine, attend all the trade shows, and still sell M-1-T for $20. It has been discussed many times before about our ads, packagin etc, it may be overkill, but VPX is still one of the fastest growing companies on the market. I would imagine that any of you would like to be in Jack Owoc's shoes. Despite the ads, prices etc, VPX would not be where we are today if the products did not perform well in the real world.
 
As I said earlier, VPX's success is very impressive by any measure, and you are surely correct about these small-timers that "any of you would like to be in Jack Owoc's shoes."
 
Let's just say that we all can get stuff cheaper than VPX sells it. Duh.
But let me point out that it's absolutely the most ignorant concept I've ever heard to say there's something wrong with a company that can charge that much and still make money. That's not wrong. It's business. It's damned good business if you can charge that much and still sell the hell out of the product. Where does that make it bad business? The products are good and they work. What's the issue here?

How about this... all of you that have jobs, go in tomorrow to your employer. Explain that in order to live and break even with your NEEDS (not your wants) you only need approximately $16k per year, and it's unfair for you to ask for more. Then go tell your wife how smart and honest you are and how you're not a money whore.
 
bigswole30 said:
It is funny that people think VPX sucks, but then support companies making the products in their kitchen, lol
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Actually,
I make my own products in my own kitchen. All I really needs is the bulk powders and the bulk chemicle supplies. The raw powders are made in chem houses, not by the companies themselves. Correct me if I am wrong, but depsite what VPX might suggest in their publications, I don't beleive they produce their own PH/PS powders from base materials. They (VPX) also receives their bulk powder from independent chem houses and then they just mix recipes, lable, market and distribute their products. That's why I like guys like sledge and Matt and ladies like Le melange. They provide me with want I need at a fair price. I really couldn't care less about PH/PS that is all pre packaged, marketed to the hilt, and pretty, (side note: why the heck does VPX insist on always showing oral syringes in their ads) when I can mix my own homebrews cheaper, and with the dosing I can be more assured is accurate. I trust the powder from Matt and sledge.
 
bigswole30 said:
With all do respect you can't compare Wal-Mart to a company such as VPX. The sports nutrition industry is a small niche market. We are not selling skittles, toilet paper, and WD-40.

Custom, I have alot of respect for your company and products, but here is what I want you to do. Put 75 people on payroll, advertise in ever major magazine, attend all the trade shows, and still sell M-1-T for $20. It has been discussed many times before about our ads, packagin etc, it may be overkill, but VPX is still one of the fastest growing companies on the market. I would imagine that any of you would like to be in Jack Owoc's shoes. Despite the ads, prices etc, VPX would not be where we are today if the products did not perform well in the real world.
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Ya know, I actually like most of VPX's products very much. It is just some of their practices that I do not agree with, but I dont have to. I know Jack has his business model and does extremely well with it. The point is, is that maybe a little bit more respect and honesty needs to be shown to the consumer. IMO, I just dont like charging exuberant amounts of money and then acting like they are cutting a deal. if you want to charge the big buck, fine, do it, but just dont try to dupe the customer. That s all.
 
Hey bigswole-if VPX has all that leftover PH's at the time of the ban, send it over to me-don't flush it! I love VPX's stuff, and find it more effective than anyone elses. Yes, it costs more, but the effect on my body is worth the extra cash!
 
T he imp[ortatnt thing is that vpx has a big inventory, and will be getting rid of it dirt cheap , or throwing it , so all the people that fill for it can now avearage the losses , and might buy it belloe cost, lol

can't wait till january
 
Hrmm... nobody is gonna tell us how their honesty on the job went? After all the criticism and whining?
 
bigswole30 said:
Put 75 people on payroll, advertise in ever major magazine, attend all the trade shows, and still sell M-1-T for $20.
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That's completely ridiculous. If you look at the trend lately in retail business in this country, you find that the small companies are always getting undersold by the bigger ones. VPX can buy its raw materials at a substantially lower price than people like Sledge, and with manufacturing facilities and a good sized work force, can sell a much much higher volume and at a much faster rate. With advertising in major magazines and representatives at major trade shows, VPX sells to a much larger market. Not to mention the fact that all the expenses you mentioned are tax write offs, so they do not really cost as much as it looks like on paper.

Given the massive volume you are capable of moving, combined with the much larger market, you should be able to sell your products cheaper than people like Sledge and Custom.

/karp
 
jrkarp said:
That's completely ridiculous. If you look at the trend lately in retail business in this country, you find that the small companies are always getting undersold by the bigger ones. VPX can buy its raw materials at a substantially lower price than people like Sledge, and with manufacturing facilities and a good sized work force, can sell a much much higher volume and at a much faster rate. With advertising in major magazines and representatives at major trade shows, VPX sells to a much larger market. Not to mention the fact that all the expenses you mentioned are tax write offs, so they do not really cost as much as it looks like on paper.

Given the massive volume you are capable of moving, combined with the much larger market, you should be able to sell your products cheaper than people like Sledge and Custom.

/karp
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My comment was not about our prices. It was about CNWS. Could VPX sell cheaper? Sure! Could most expensice brands? Yes! However, this is business and Jack can run it how he wants.
 
Brodus said:
So are you guys going to have a blow out sale? Plan on posting in the Swap Meet?
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You will not see much of this directly from VPX. We do not really sell direct since we are distributor based. Our distributors such as BOSS are definitely getting blowout prices.
 
JYFGJY said:
Hey bigswole-if VPX has all that leftover PH's at the time of the ban, send it over to me-don't flush it! I love VPX's stuff, and find it more effective than anyone elses. Yes, it costs more, but the effect on my body is worth the extra cash!
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Yeah okay, whore. :rolleyes:

I like how the only people who support VPX on the forums are those wishing to receive free product.
 
bigswole30 said:
My comment was not about our prices. It was about CNWS. Could VPX sell cheaper? Sure! Could most expensice brands? Yes! However, this is business and Jack can run it how he wants.
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Of course he can.

But your comment was

bigswole30 said:
Custom, I have alot of respect for your company and products, but here is what I want you to do. Put 75 people on payroll, advertise in ever major magazine, attend all the trade shows, and still sell M-1-T for $20.
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That comment implies that that overhead (payroll, advertising, etc) is the reason for VPX's high prices, because you're implying that if custom had that overhead, he couldn't sell that cheap.

/karp
 
bigswole30 said:
You will not see much of this directly from VPX. We do not really sell direct since we are distributor based. Our distributors such as BOSS are definitely getting blowout prices.
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I thought VPX sold through their website :blink:
 
jrkarp said:
Of course he can.

But your comment was


That comment implies that that overhead (payroll, advertising, etc) is the reason for VPX's high prices, because you're implying that if custom had that overhead, he couldn't sell that cheap.

/karp
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No, I was not justifying our prices, but I can see that it could be taken that way. I was simply saying you can't sell M-1-T that cheap when you have overhead. That would be like saying a storefront can sell for what online sites do!
 
Designer Supps said:
I thought VPX sold through their website :blink:
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They do sell on their website. It looks like they are having a blowout sale right now. Buy 2 and get 3 free. This almost brings their prices down to what it is everywhere else. :rofl:

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bjfrank said:
They do sell on their website. It looks like they are having a blowout sale right now. Buy 2 and get 3 free. This almost brings their prices down to what it is everywhere else. :rofl:

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Yes, this comes to 35% off wholesale. However, our distributors are getting much more off than that. I meant on products other then prohormones.
 
TheUsual said:
I like how the only people who support VPX on the forums are those wishing to receive free product.
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I like VPX products(the few I have tried) and get nothing for free from them. In fact, the prices keep me from using their products as often as I would like. However, if VPX would like to send me free items, I will be happy to take them :)

I am continually confused about this topic. VPX makes high quality products that have a high price tag but no one is forced to buy VPX. While I may disagree with the pricing and marketing, this should not be surprising. VPX's goal is profit. If products did not sell then prices would drop. Since products sell, VPX does not have a reason to change pricing strategy.
 
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Exactly. I wasn't trying to bust balls, it is just that the explanations given don't match the facts. The fact is what Size just said, they can make huge money, so they do. This ain't rocket surgery.

The worst though is the 1-test product. 240ml contains 40 servings of 50mg of 1-test polycarbonate ester. So perhaps the whole bottle contains 1.5g of actual 1-test. Perhaps the bioavailability is 66%. If so, that is 1g of bioavailable 1-test for ~$60 if you get it in the largest size possible, and in something like a buy 2 get 3 deal.

:box:Sheer genius. :box:

Obiwan Kinobe -- stunned -- fumbles to break out his notebook when he sees this kind of thing work. Interview later, all he could say was, "And I thought 'These aren't the droids you are looking for' was good. F*ck me!"
 
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bigswole30 said:
It has been discussed many times before about our ads, packagin etc, it may be overkill, but VPX is still one of the fastest growing companies on the market.
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Hey, I love the packaging! :D
 
Off subject...meathead, what is up with that pic...you and Brodus need to change that shiot. And the usual is that you damn, wazzup with them abs???
 
I went into my boss's office and asked for 16k and got fired. Thanks a lot!

Well that's also b/c I only work 2 days a week....oh well back to the classifieds
 
Haha beat me to it...even cheaper than the 10mg pills from Scifit (600mg/bottle in scifit, thats 6.66 bottles of the 1fast version to equate, at 5 bucks per bottle that comes to $33.3 for 600mg versus 40 for the Scifit...plus I like undergroudn labs better than scifit, and it'll be easier to dose, though its a ton of pills).
 
When are all the powders going to become 50 cents a gram? I'm gonna buy my stuff early, probably at regular prices. You never know, it may sell out real quick when it hits those prices. But what a treat its going to be when it hits 50 cents a gram for all powders. I'll definitely have to get some more.
 
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