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Ultimate Black Lion Research Natty Stack

kboxer7 said:
You'll want to take 250 mg of a supplement that contains at least 10% forskolin, twice daily. That is the typical efficacious dose in studies.

As for timing, forskolin increases cAMP and lipolysis, so I like to take at least one dose pre-workout in the attempt to increase fat metabolism. Another popular time to dose is pre-bed.
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Better be close to a toilet at all times if you are going to run forskolin at 20% and below! The higher % forskolin can eliminate the problem and you take less of it ; )
 
ELROCK said:
Better be close to a toilet at all times if you are going to run forskolin at 20% and below! The higher % forskolin can eliminate the problem and you take less of it ; )
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C'mon now, why you no like the mud butt? lol

To be fair I did say "at least 10%."
 
why many of you running Viron accuse high blood pressure and increased heart rate?
Viron contains no stimulants of any kind.
or did I miss something?
for all I know, Eurycoma should work otherwise ....
someone with more knowledge could explain this?
 
After the stack
Abe + Ep1c + PA

I would try 2 months Letrone.

I recommended it as a stand-alone?
in a period of ReComp, normo caloric.
brundel
 
bb333 said:
After the stack
Abe + Ep1c + PA

I would try 2 months Letrone.

I recommended it as a stand-alone?
in a period of ReComp, normo caloric.

brundel
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Yes you could run it solo for 2 months. Its a great AI with added anabolic effects. Great by itself. Even better when stacked.
 
storm 011 said:
why many of you running Viron accuse high blood pressure and increased heart rate?
Viron contains no stimulants of any kind.
or did I miss something?
for all I know, Eurycoma should work otherwise ....
someone with more knowledge could explain this?
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TA is definitely one of the most potent T booster ingredient and studies are proving it reduce Cortisol and cholesterol (which can lower BP).
In many countries TA is used for lowering BP.
But as you know, TA is named as Malaysian Ginseng and it can boost energy (overdosing will lead to increasing Heart rate,BP and even insomnia). But those sides can be experienced by those who are sensitive to TA (even low/normal doses)
 
Danes said:
TA is definitely one of the most potent T booster ingredient and studies are proving it reduce Cortisol and cholesterol (which can lower BP).
In many countries TA is used for lowering BP.
But as you know, TA is named as Malaysian Ginseng and it can boost energy (overdosing will lead to increasing Heart rate,BP and even insomnia). But those sides can be experienced by those who are sensitive to TA (even low/normal doses)
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What's ta
 
Cjg said:
Cool u think start with one?
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Yes, if running solo, start with 1 cap and taper up to 2 if desired. 3 would be highest likely dose but probably not needed in this case. Anything more without running something that increases aromatase conversion would more than likely lower your estrogen too much.
 
So I finally have a slow travel schedule next 2 months and im going to kick this off

Depending on how you plan to run things, you will need the following to run that stack for 8 weeks.

Viron - 2 Bottles @ 2 caps a day
Follidrone - 2 Bottles @ 2 caps a day
Letrone - 1 Bottle @ 1 cap a day
Prolactrone -1 Bottle @ 1 cap a day for 30 days, then 2 caps a day for the next 30 days

Quick questions:

What times of day are best to take the different things. I used Folli b4 as PW.
Also, Viron says 1 a day on bottle but 2 recommended here.
Letrone say 1 cap here but bottle says 1-2
Prolactrone can be taken 1-3 times daily on bottle, but different here. 1 cap 30days then 2 caps 30 days.

Just want this sorted and confirmed that what I see above is better than what bottles says.

Thanks
 
lehn20 said:
So I finally have a slow travel schedule next 2 months and im going to kick this off

Depending on how you plan to run things, you will need the following to run that stack for 8 weeks.

Viron - 2 Bottles @ 2 caps a day
Follidrone - 2 Bottles @ 2 caps a day
Letrone - 1 Bottle @ 1 cap a day
Prolactrone -1 Bottle @ 1 cap a day for 30 days, then 2 caps a day for the next 30 days

Quick questions:

What times of day are best to take the different things. I used Folli b4 as PW.
Also, Viron says 1 a day on bottle but 2 recommended here.
Letrone say 1 cap here but bottle says 1-2
Prolactrone can be taken 1-3 times daily on bottle, but different here. 1 cap 30days then 2 caps 30 days.

Just want this sorted and confirmed that what I see above is better than what bottles says.

Thanks
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Follidrone 2 caps pre
Viron 1 cap pre and I like 1 cap before bed. Some do 5 on 2 off. I like every day dosage.
Letrone 1 cap as soon as you wake up. You can go 2 caps with that being about 6 hours later.
Prolactrone I also like 1 cap as soon as I wake up and 1 before bed. If dosed 1 per day I like the pre bed dose.

Hope this helps buddy
 
lehn20 said:
So I finally have a slow travel schedule next 2 months and im going to kick this off

Depending on how you plan to run things, you will need the following to run that stack for 8 weeks.

Viron - 2 Bottles @ 2 caps a day
Follidrone - 2 Bottles @ 2 caps a day
Letrone - 1 Bottle @ 1 cap a day
Prolactrone -1 Bottle @ 1 cap a day for 30 days, then 2 caps a day for the next 30 days

Quick questions:

What times of day are best to take the different things. I used Folli b4 as PW.
Also, Viron says 1 a day on bottle but 2 recommended here.
Letrone say 1 cap here but bottle says 1-2
Prolactrone can be taken 1-3 times daily on bottle, but different here. 1 cap 30days then 2 caps 30 days.

Just want this sorted and confirmed that what I see above is better than what bottles says.

Thanks
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What times of day are best to take the different things. I used Folli b4 as PW.


Viron: 1 cap AM & 1 b4 bed (or b4 workout)
Letrone: 1 cap AM (I would only use one on a Natty cycle)
 
If running with Viron and/or Follidrone 2 caps is preferred. If running completely solo then start with 1 and assess how it affects you for a week or two before upping the dose.
 
Definitely Viron & Letrone if you can only afford 2.

HIt me up for some TGB Discount codes if you decide to jump on them..
 
Yes, you shoould still be able to use Alphamine. Just start with moderate dosing on everything to get a feel for that many supps.
 
Hate to dig up a super old thread but I gotta ask, what would be ideal dosing to run the following for 8 weeks:

Rebirth
Viron
Prolactrone
Letrone
Follidrone

Thanks!
 
blondbencher said:
Hate to dig up a super old thread but I gotta ask, what would be ideal dosing to run the following for 8 weeks:

Rebirth
Viron
Prolactrone
Letrone
Follidrone

Thanks!
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Are you running this a PCT..?

if not, why are you including Rebirth..?
 
vujade said:
Are you running this a PCT..?

if not, why are you including Rebirth..?
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No, I haven't ran gear in over a decade. However, I never PCTed back then so I figured this would be a nice natty stack that might help optimize my T levels. I'm 34 now so I feel a little surge in my energy and sex drive. Let me know what you think.

Thanks!
 
blondbencher said:
No, I haven't ran gear in over a decade. However, I never PCTed back then so I figured this would be a nice natty stack that might help optimize my T levels. I'm 34 now so I feel a little surge in my energy and sex drive. Let me know what you think.

Thanks!
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It can't hurt either way, everyone sees it as just a PCT i see it as a testosterone booster via different pathways than most t boosters, so stacked with a t booster and an AI you could definitely expect a huge surge in T... Also the seaweed in it has numerous health benefits
 
blondbencher said:
Hate to dig up a super old thread but I gotta ask, what would be ideal dosing to run the following for 8 weeks:

Rebirth
Viron
Prolactrone
Letrone
Follidrone

Thanks!
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blondbencher said:
No, I haven't ran gear in over a decade. However, I never PCTed back then so I figured this would be a nice natty stack that might help optimize my T levels. I'm 34 now so I feel a little surge in my energy and sex drive. Let me know what you think.

Thanks!
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Ok, heres the protocol i would run with that stack....

Rebirth - 1 cap AM & 1 cap PM
Viron - 1 cap AM & 1 cap Pre Workout
Letrone - 1 cap AM
Follidrone 2.0 - 1 cap AM & 2 caps Pre Workout
Prolactrone - start with 1 to 2 caps per day to test it out, and you can gradually work up to 3 caps per day.

Should be a helluva stack..! Ive run a similar stack for PCT and my test levels are the highest they've been
in 10 years (Im 46)
 
vujade said:
Ok, heres the protocol i would run with that stack....

Rebirth - 1 cap AM & 1 cap PM
Viron - 1 cap AM & 1 cap Pre Workout
Letrone - 1 cap AM
Follidrone 2.0 - 1 cap AM & 2 caps Pre Workout
Prolactrone - start with 1 to 2 caps per day to test it out, and you can gradually work up to 3 caps per day.

Should be a helluva stack..! Ive run a similar stack for PCT and my test levels are the highest they've been
in 10 years (Im 46)
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Why not letrone at 2 daily? I find 2 daily isnt overly strong.. has a nice leaning effect aswell
 
vujade said:
Ok, heres the protocol i would run with that stack....

Rebirth - 1 cap AM & 1 cap PM
Viron - 1 cap AM & 1 cap Pre Workout
Letrone - 1 cap AM
Follidrone 2.0 - 1 cap AM & 2 caps Pre Workout
Prolactrone - start with 1 to 2 caps per day to test it out, and you can gradually work up to 3 caps per day.

Should be a helluva stack..! Ive run a similar stack for PCT and my test levels are the highest they've been
in 10 years (Im 46)
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Awesome! Thanks so much for the stack layout!
 
YoungBodyBuil said:
Why not letrone at 2 daily? I find 2 daily isnt overly strong.. has a nice leaning effect aswell
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You could probably run it at 2 caps per day, but i found it just as effective at 1.
Plus Letrone always makes me hungry which works against me when Im trying
to cut or recomp.
 
vujade said:
You could probably run it at 2 caps per day, but i found it just as effective at 1.
Plus Letrone always makes me hungry which works against me when Im trying
to cut or recomp.
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Good feedback. I'll probably start at 1 cap per day and go from there. So I've decided that I am in fact going to run this massive natty stack and log it here on AM. I'm going to place the order shortly and then start crafting the log in anticipation of the ship date.
 
blondbencher said:
Good feedback. I'll probably start at 1 cap per day and go from there. So I've decided that I am in fact going to run this massive natty stack and log it here on AM. I'm going to place the order shortly and then start crafting the log in anticipation of the ship date.
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Thx.. no problem bro. Sounds like a solid plan. Please tag me when you do post it up. :)

Heres a great deal on Viron, Rebirth & Letrone

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Then just add you Prolactrone & Follidrone in to the mix.

You can use my discount codes

vujade5 - gets you 5% off your order up to $149

vujade7 - gets you 7% off your order over $150
 
vujade said:
Ok, heres the protocol i would run with that stack....

Rebirth - 1 cap AM & 1 cap PM
Viron - 1 cap AM & 1 cap Pre Workout
Letrone - 1 cap AM
Follidrone 2.0 - 1 cap AM & 2 caps Pre Workout
Prolactrone - start with 1 to 2 caps per day to test it out, and you can gradually work up to 3 caps per day.

Should be a helluva stack..! Ive run a similar stack for PCT and my test levels are the highest they've been
in 10 years (Im 46)
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Ok boss! I received all my goodies this weekend! Tomorrow is D-Day! Only have one question: when should I be dosing Prolactrone?

Thanks!
 
blondbencher said:
Ok boss! I received all my goodies this weekend! Tomorrow is D-Day! Only have one question: when should I be dosing Prolactrone?

Thanks!
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I do 1 cap Am 1 cap afternoon and 1 cap at night, it definitely helps mood thanks to dopamine effects so I use it 3 times daily at the same time to level my mood, also try to keep it away from work, EVERYTIME I dose when I'm at work I'll get a random hard on.
 
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