UFC 69 Results!

Rodja said:
I am really getting sick of how grapplers are now considered boring. It is MMA, not kickboxing. I generally don't agree with the commentary of Joe Rogan, but when Sylvia fought Couture, he talked about how grapplers need to be shown more respect by not only the fans, but also the refs. Anyone who has either watch a BJJ match or been in one knows that it is very rare to move to a submission from full guard in less than 5 minutes.

Quit being such a whiny fan about every detail. There is more MMA now than ever, yet people, such as you, continue to find something to ***** about. I may prefer to see a fight end in a certain manner, but I do not complain when it does not end in that particular fashion.

Take this crap to Sherdog and leave it there.
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ya but you can have borring grappling matches and exciting ones. If your borring doesnt mean your not good, it just means you dont belong on TV.

There are fighters out there that win and are good but they are borring a f*ck.. well guess what... this is a spectator sport, this is not the olympics.... This is about money, its business.. and if your a borring fighter then there is a good chance that you will not become a champion, even if you are championship calliber. Because no one wants to waste their money to watch your borring ass!
The reason Tim Trailor Park Sylvia had the title is becase UFC did not have many heavyweights.. and unfortunately there are alot of dummasses in this world that like Tim TP Sylvia.
Josh Kos might get a title fight because soo many people cant stand him (me included) that they WANT to see someone beat the **** out of him!
and for those that dont know.. Diego Sanches is a tough mofo and he is fenominal on the ground.. he just isnt that exciting to watch either.
 
Hah!

It's an inside joke because the ED and diabetes combo which Wilford and Rogue share make them unbearably cranky. If your penis wouldn't become erect you'd be a cranky old ****er too!
 
Rogue Drone said:
Damn, this thread took a turn to the serious all of a sudden, bam, out of left field.

I think his point was, and he certainly can defend his position for himself, is that appearance is meaningless in relation to success in the Ring or Cage.
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no.. he wasnt talking about appearance.. he was talking about cutting weight!
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Inside joke w/ me in it, but not on the inside...hmm. Someone wanna lend me a hand here before I bust out my taekwondont on you?
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I've heard that you are a Mexican't, not a Mexican, Johnny Depp told me to blindside you with the a reverse spinning flying triangle jumping Bean Plata.
 
PHWSSJ said:
ya but you can have borring grappling matches and exciting ones. If your borring doesnt mean your not good, it just means you dont belong on TV.

There are fighters out there that win and are good but they are borring a f*ck.. well guess what... this is a spectator sport, this is not the olympics.... This is about money, its business.. and if your a borring fighter then there is a good chance that you will not become a champion, even if you are championship calliber. Because no one wants to waste their money to watch your borring ass!
The reason Tim Trailor Park Sylvia had the title is becase UFC did not have many heavyweights.. and unfortunately there are alot of dummasses in this world that like Tim TP Sylvia.
Josh Kos might get a title fight because soo many people cant stand him (me included) that they WANT to see someone beat the **** out of him!
and for those that dont know.. Diego Sanches is a tough mofo and he is fenominal on the ground.. he just isnt that exciting to watch either.
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I'm going to look past the fact you don't know how to use a paragraph, or punctuation, and give this argument some thought.

First of all, as the UFC often demonstrates with snoozer cards, the excitement level of a fighter is not the solely determinant factor in a title shot. Sorry, it's just not. It is who you beat, plain and simple. Sure, they often give the crowds the matchups they want, but if a fighter deserves a title shot based on the calibre of opponents he has faced and beaten, he will get one.

Annoying as it was, Kos exhibited this point wonderfully. Do you really, honestly, think the LnP wrestler gives a **** what you or anybody else thinks of him? I'll concede that often fighters wish to please the fans, but never, never at the expense of a victory. If they do, they shouldn't be fighting.

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And it's phenomenal, not fenominal, or whatever garbage you jammed on the keys.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Hah!

It's an inside joke because the ED and diabetes combo which Wilford and Rogue share make them unbearably cranky. If your penis wouldn't become erect you'd be a cranky old ****er too!
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No, unlike Wilford (who suffers from legitimate ED due to ungodly old age) Rogue is cranky because of a psychological battle within himself. In short, when he takes the ladies home he can never convince his weenie he's actually straight, hence his desire to roll around with sweaty guys only to find himself on has back getting his ass beat.
 
PHWSSJ said:
no.. he wasnt talking about appearance.. he was talking about cutting weight!
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What's wrong with cutting weight? almost all fighters do it.

Do you think it's wrong that natural, say, Middleweights cut to Welterweight, i.e. Matt Hughes, not to single him out.

I kind of agree with that, but it's a legal and common part of the game, I personally won't hold it against them, maybe that's just me.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
I'm going to look past the fact you don't know how to use a paragraph, or punctuation, and give this argument some thought.

First of all, as the UFC often demonstrates with snoozer cards, the excitement level of a fighter is not the solely determinant factor in a title shot. Sorry, it's just not. It is who you beat, plain and simple. Sure, they often give the crowds the matchups they want, but if a fighter deserves a title shot based on the calibre of opponents he has faced and beaten, he will get one.

Annoying as it was, Kos exhibited this point wonderfully. Do you really, honestly, think the LnP wrestler gives a **** what you or anybody else thinks of him? I'll concede that often fighters wish to please the fans, but never, never at the expense of a victory. If they do, they shouldn't be fighting.

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And it's phenomenal, not fenominal, or whatever garbage you jammed on the keys.
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You forgot spelling:
borring x4= boring
dummasses= dumbasses
calliber= caliber
soo= so
fenominal= phenomenal

Sorry PJ, but with your abrasiveness you're looking to be picked apart.
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
No, unlike Wilford (who suffers from legitimate ED due to ungodly old age) Rogue is cranky because of a psychological battle within himself. In short, when he takes the ladies home he can never convince his weenie he's actually straight, hence his desire to roll around with sweaty guys only to find himself on has back getting his ass beat.
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I don't even bother anymore, I get dressed up to go clubbing, then slam my Willy Brimford in my truck door for a thrill, far cheaper and less psychologically damaging than getting spurned and spermed on.
 
Well I'm happy to hear you've found inner peace. Karate does that for a person, just like any "true" martial art, where the "real objective" is finding inner peace.
 
Alexander said:
You forgot spelling:
borring x4= boring
dummasses= dumbasses
calliber= caliber
soo= so
fenominal= phenomenal

Sorry PJ, but with your abrasiveness you're looking to be picked apart.
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I think that was more of a self-inhibition thing on my part. I sensed it would be that horrible, and being a grammar guy I could not bear to see such mockery.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
I'm going to look past the fact you don't know how to use a paragraph, or punctuation, and give this argument some thought.

First of all, as the UFC often demonstrates with snoozer cards, the excitement level of a fighter is not the solely determinant factor in a title shot. Sorry, it's just not. It is who you beat, plain and simple. Sure, they often give the crowds the matchups they want, but if a fighter deserves a title shot based on the calibre of opponents he has faced and beaten, he will get one.

Annoying as it was, Kos exhibited this point wonderfully. Do you really, honestly, think the LnP wrestler gives a **** what you or anybody else thinks of him? I'll concede that often fighters wish to please the fans, but never, never at the expense of a victory. If they do, they shouldn't be fighting.
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oh i didnt know i was writing a paper and getting graded on it... this is a forum. Second you obviously dont know anything about what goes on behind the scenes... because you are not a fighter, or if you are, then you fight in small shows and never been in anything big. I never said that excitement factor was the sole determinant... and you are really ignorant to think that if a fighter "deserves" a title shot they will get one. That right their shows your level of knowledge on the whole fight scene.
and for the record... it takes reall balls to go out and try risky maneuvers (99% of the time are exciting). It takes reall balls to put it all on the line, any other way is the easy way out.. and thats for *****es like Josh Kos and every other fighter that fights "to win" Of course you fight to win, but dont fight like a *****! There is no glory or honnor in winning in that manner, and it is obviouse that you know nothing about that sort of thing from the way you talk.
The fact is you dont know sh1t about what you are talking about, and i do ..and thats all there is to say about it!
 
Rogue Drone said:
What's wrong with cutting weight? almost all fighters do it.

Do you think it's wrong that natural, say, Middleweights cut to Welterweight, i.e. Matt Hughes, not to single him out.

I kind of agree with that, but it's a legal and common part of the game, I personally won't hold it against them, maybe that's just me.
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you misunderstood me, i was just simply saying that size and weight plays a very significant role im fighting... and that other dude was saying that it doesnt. and that is just plane wrong!

If you can cutt weight and show up with enoughstrength for the fight then do it, cut as much as you can, i am not opposed to it. Cutting weight is a mofo! its not something you can cheat too much at, it takes discipline. I never said i was opposed to it... hope you understand now.
 
PHWSSJ said:
oh i didnt know i was writing a paper and getting graded on it... this is a forum. Second you obviously dont know anything about what goes on behind the scenes... because you are not a fighter, or if you are, then you fight in small shows and never been in anything big. I never said that excitement factor was the sole determinant... and you are really ignorant to think that if a fighter "deserves" a title shot they will get one. That right their shows your level of knowledge on the whole fight scene.
and for the record... it takes reall balls to go out and try risky maneuvers (99% of the time are exciting). It takes reall balls to put it all on the line, any other way is the easy way out.. and thats for *****es like Josh Kos and every other fighter that fights "to win" Of course you fight to win, but dont fight like a *****! There is no glory or honnor in winning in that manner, and it is obviouse that you know nothing about that sort of thing from the way you talk.
The fact is you dont know sh1t about what you are talking about, and i do ..and thats all there is to say about it!
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Unless you're willing to divulge who you are, you shouldn't be acting like you are a big show fighter. So who are you?
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Well I'm happy to hear you've found inner peace. Karate does that for a person, just like any "true" martial art, where the "real objective" is finding inner peace.
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I'm gonna carve an inner peace out of your ass in a leatherboy crack bulging out of the leather chaps butch fisting kind of way if you toy with me, not so slick Kwyck, no lube for you.

Wakeup tommorow morning and find your front lawn piled high with Diabetic Testing supplies that I charged on your creditcard, don't force me to Kamikaze my Tim the Tool man jet engined powered Hoverround over the not so secret stash of Bestiality Porn that you jas off to.
 
kwyckemynd00 said:
Well I'm happy to hear you've found inner peace. Karate does that for a person, just like any "true" martial art, where the "real objective" is finding inner peace.
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i hope you arent implying that Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai, Judo (MMA) are not real martial arts????

If you are trying to say that lots of people are being taught these martial arts without learning the tennants, and the history, and what martial arts is really all about.. then ya i agree... i just hope your not bashing these other arts because they have become something everyone wants to learn because they want to kick asses. Unfortunately that is what is happening
 
Hands down , this is the craziest thread I have ever seen on AM, not my fault, I tried to get you kids to play clean, but y'all are so very very dirtyminded, shame on you degenerates, I'm almost tempted to burn my NAMBLA card and join the Nunnery, almost, nah, **** it.
 
Rogue Drone said:
Hands down , this is the craziest thread I have ever seen on AM, not my fault, I tried to get you kids to play clean, but y'all are so very very dirtyminded, shame on you degenerates, I'm almost tempted to burn my NAMBLA card and join the Nunnery, almost, nah, **** it.
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Even crazier then the thread where Savage soiled his pantelones? I still feel bad, being that his job was kind of involved.
 
PHWSSJ said:
oh i didnt know i was writing a paper and getting graded on it... this is a forum. Second you obviously dont know anything about what goes on behind the scenes... because you are not a fighter, or if you are, then you fight in small shows and never been in anything big. I never said that excitement factor was the sole determinant... and you are really ignorant to think that if a fighter "deserves" a title shot they will get one. That right their shows your level of knowledge on the whole fight scene.
and for the record... it takes reall balls to go out and try risky maneuvers (99% of the time are exciting). It takes reall balls to put it all on the line, any other way is the easy way out.. and thats for *****es like Josh Kos and every other fighter that fights "to win" Of course you fight to win, but dont fight like a *****! There is no glory or honnor in winning in that manner, and it is obviouse that you know nothing about that sort of thing from the way you talk.
The fact is you dont know sh1t about what you are talking about, and i do ..and thats all there is to say about it!
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This isn't a paper, but you also aren't Cocoa the Chimp and by this time should have developed literacy beyond that of a three-year old.

Yet, I digress. While you may not have explicitly stated it was the sole, determinant factor, you definitely implied excitement is the most important factor when you stated:

This is about money, its business.. and if your a borring fighter then there is a good chance that you will not become a champion, even if you are championship calliber. Because no one wants to waste their money to watch your borring ass!
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Now, of course money is numero uno to the organizations, and promoters. Since you didn't read my post, I'll tell you that it focused far more on the fighter's perspective on the importance of whether or not a fight is boring or not.

However, even on an organizational level, if you can name 10 boring fighters who deserved a title shot based on their level on the food chain [and the people they beat] but did not based on their excitement level, Alexander will suck your **** right now. Wait, you cannot, because despite your assertion otherwise you do not know how these organizations work. Once again, non-title matches are often arranged based on excitement [Pride often delivers in this sense], and I'll even concede that given a choice between two equally deserving fighters, one boring, one exciting, they will always choose the exciting one; however, and once again, excitement does not condition the choice of fight as much as you think.
 
Pantelones?

Someone still on IE? it's 2007, junk the Commodore. In the infamous words of Samuel L. Jackson from Pulp Fiction, and I've had to use this on you before -

"English, Mother****er, do you speak it?!
 
Me too, sweet dreams, respite from my abuse. I might by getting the banning stick layed upside my head or somewhere else, please?, by tommorow.
 
Rogue Drone said:
I'm gonna carve an inner peace out of your ass in a leatherboy crack bulging out of the leather chaps butch fisting kind of way if you toy with me, not so slick Kwyck, no lube for you.

Wakeup tommorow morning and find your front lawn piled high with Diabetic Testing supplies that I charged on your creditcard, don't force me to Kamikaze my Tim the Tool man jet engined powered Hoverround over the not so secret stash of Bestiality Porn that you jas off to.
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My inner-peace makes me like obiwan kanobi. You can kill me, but you can't "kill me". Myayahahahaahahaa.:smite: :woohoo:
 
I find my inner peace by wearing assless chaps and riding my motorcycle in traffic on the busy freeway.
Go America! Assless chaps only in this great country!
 
I don't much to add to this, well, whatever it was, except that I think Tim "the Stainiac" Sylvia is more appropriate than Tim "TP" Sylvia. Yes, I stole this from someone else.
 
Ahh, I all tried to resmartificate this **** show.

Well, back to watching Rogue uses his former mullet hairs as a brush to lube up Savage and Alexandrovich's feet to have a Houston 500 **** fest!
 
jas123 said:
I don't much to add to this, well, whatever it was, except that I think Tim "the Stainiac" Sylvia is more appropriate than Tim "TP" Sylvia. Yes, I stole this from someone else.
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You have your syphillis, add that you filthy sheep banging prostitute!
 
PHWSSJ said:
you misunderstood me, i was just simply saying that size and weight plays a very significant role im fighting... and that other dude was saying that it doesnt. and that is just plane wrong!

If you can cutt weight and show up with enoughstrength for the fight then do it, cut as much as you can, i am not opposed to it. Cutting weight is a mofo! its not something you can cheat too much at, it takes discipline. I never said i was opposed to it... hope you understand now.
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There could be an entire thread about fighters that are smaller than there opponent and still won. Boxers cut weight too and I don't hear many *****ing about them. The only time there will be a significant weight advantage will be at HW, but even then, every fighter knows their situation and if they were that opposed, then they would not take the fight. Fighters don't ***** about cutting weight, so what right to do you have to complain about something that you are obviously not knowledgeable about.

I plan to cut about 8 lbs before my weigh-in and most that I have talked to cut between 8-15 lbs before their weigh-ins.
 
Well, I just wanna say that I think the Kos/Sanchez fight should have been a draw. While Kos obviously did more, I don't think he did enough to be considered "Champ." Well, he better enjoy it now cuz it ain't gonna last!
 
I just saw Imes/Herring, Leites/Sell and Davis/Spratt. Definitely three solid showings.

Leites was very impressive, and could definitely prove to pose problems for many at MW. If Sell is a good standard of judgment, we saw how much trouble Lutter had subbing him, and Lutter is legit. Leites had Sell in tons of trouble throughout. I'd like to see Leites vs. Lutter. I think Leites would take it due to matching up well on the ground and having better striking. Of course, Travis could just lay on him for a decision.

Davis continues to look good, though Spratt definitely seemed to have a bit of an advantage on the feet.

Herring looked worse than I expected after reading the PBP. He is pretty sloppy and will probably get rocked or subbed by someone who is superior in either dept.
 
Thank God for Beowulf!

I just watched those prelim fights too. I made the mistake of opening up this thread from begining and reading through the entire thing thinking that I would find some MMA discussion...LOL, you f*****s are hilarious!

Anyway, I was pretty impressed with Leites as well. I really haven't seen much of him though (TUF 4 Finale and maybe ROTR once, but not sure ). This guy will be fun to watch as he matures!

Herring looked way better this match than he did in his first match in the UFC...but that's not saying much. I've never thought too much of him and just don't care for his "style" (especially outside of Pride's rules). He was in the north/south position a couple of times & threw some knees, but they're not the same when they're hitting shoulders instead of the head. I think if it weren't for his personality that he wouldn't be in the UFC...then again, I don't care for him as a fighter and could care less if he was in the UFC.
 
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