Tyler4's First Log **P-Plex+Epi+DC=Mass!**
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tyler4
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Day 21/22
Weight: 182
Epi: 20mg/30mg
PP:20mg/10mg
DC Workout B2
Killer workout. My focus was all there and my intensity was back up to par. I dont push a lot of weight on B w/o's but it still felt really good for me.
Incline DB Curls: 40 8/5/5
Bi Stretch
Rev EZ Curls: 70 x 12
Bi Stretch
Calf raise: A lot of weight x 12
Standing Leg Curls: 30 8/5/3
SLD's w/ 65 lbs
Closed Feet Powertech Squat: I think around 300 lbs of weight x 5
Quad Stretch
Sides/Thoughts
-As good as the w/o went yesterday, I dont feel too domsy today. I suppose that could be from the cycle (recovery).
-Morning lethargy has kicked in. It will probably be at its peak this week since this is the last week with both Epi and PP. Next week it's only PP from there on out.
-Still no sides. No gyno, acne, maybe very minor back pumps, shedding, etc.
-Vascularity is increasing fo sho!
-This is strange since I dont really drink but I find myself kinda craving a beer during dinner a lot. Just maybe one beer, I havent partaken since I'm already on 2 methyls, but its strange that I'm craving a good Newcastle only when I cant have one
Something other notes that I figured I'd share.
My full lab report came back yesterday from my pre cycle bloodwork. A few days ago the doc quoted my test at 396, but that was on some crazy scale. It's actually 488 ng/dl on a range of 300-1100. So I'm not as bad as I though, but still not ideal.
Thats not really the issue. My Estradiol came back at 49 on a scale of 13-50. Now thats pretty high. I plan to give the doc a call today just to pick his brain on what he thinks about this. I'm not really looking for anything from him except for just some insight. I like getting other people's opinion and then making my own decision on what (if anything) should be done. I plan on talking to more knowlegable people about this as well.
Weight: 182
Epi: 20mg/30mg
PP:20mg/10mg
DC Workout B2
Killer workout. My focus was all there and my intensity was back up to par. I dont push a lot of weight on B w/o's but it still felt really good for me.
Incline DB Curls: 40 8/5/5
Bi Stretch
Rev EZ Curls: 70 x 12
Bi Stretch
Calf raise: A lot of weight x 12
Standing Leg Curls: 30 8/5/3
SLD's w/ 65 lbs
Closed Feet Powertech Squat: I think around 300 lbs of weight x 5
Quad Stretch
Sides/Thoughts
-As good as the w/o went yesterday, I dont feel too domsy today. I suppose that could be from the cycle (recovery).
-Morning lethargy has kicked in. It will probably be at its peak this week since this is the last week with both Epi and PP. Next week it's only PP from there on out.
-Still no sides. No gyno, acne, maybe very minor back pumps, shedding, etc.
-Vascularity is increasing fo sho!
-This is strange since I dont really drink but I find myself kinda craving a beer during dinner a lot. Just maybe one beer, I havent partaken since I'm already on 2 methyls, but its strange that I'm craving a good Newcastle only when I cant have one
Something other notes that I figured I'd share.
My full lab report came back yesterday from my pre cycle bloodwork. A few days ago the doc quoted my test at 396, but that was on some crazy scale. It's actually 488 ng/dl on a range of 300-1100. So I'm not as bad as I though, but still not ideal.
Thats not really the issue. My Estradiol came back at 49 on a scale of 13-50. Now thats pretty high. I plan to give the doc a call today just to pick his brain on what he thinks about this. I'm not really looking for anything from him except for just some insight. I like getting other people's opinion and then making my own decision on what (if anything) should be done. I plan on talking to more knowlegable people about this as well.
Irish Cannon
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Newcastle. Good man. - Do you guys have Fat Tire up there? I know the New Belgium Brewing Company moved into Georgia recently; they've recently only been West of the Mississippi. - If you've never had a Fat Tire before, find yourself one!
Glad to hear about your test levels. As for the estrogen, just get on a freaking AI bro. I bet my estrogen is high too. Anybody that's gyno prone like us most likely is.
Glad to hear about your test levels. As for the estrogen, just get on a freaking AI bro. I bet my estrogen is high too. Anybody that's gyno prone like us most likely is.
tyler4
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Yup, we have Flat Tire up here. I like it as well. I love me some Newcastle though. Do you ever just get that urge during a cycle to have like one beer?
Yea, I thought about the AI. But I cant stay on them forever. I may toss around some ideas and think things over. I might should stock up on Formestane now!
Irish Cannon
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"Fat" Tire.
- I love that spicyness it has to it.I always have the desire for a drink, man. Anytime I'm around it. I can easily keep myself from drinking, but anytime I'm around alcohol I want some. haha. Jameson is my downfall. It's soooo delicious.
tyler4
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"Fat" Tire.
I always have the desire for a drink, man. Anytime I'm around it. I can easily keep myself from drinking, but anytime I'm around alcohol I want some. haha. Jameson is my downfall. It's soooo delicious.
I have some Chivas in my freezer right now
It's lonely.Irish Cannon
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I have some Chivas in my freezer right now
That's great stuff too! I love me some scotch. I've always drank mine room-temp without ice, though. :dunno:
tyler4
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Damn, your a tougher man than I. Ice is needed for me.
Irish Cannon
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Ya, I think that's why I do it. It's just freaking manly. Chivas is smooth though. I could understand if you were drinking cheap stuff like Cluny, but Chivas is delicious on the eso****us.
EDIT: Why did it block out that word?
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Irish Cannon
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Have you seen the new healthcare logo? - I know it's small; those white shaddowy things in the background are people.
Irish Cannon
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Have you seen the "Obama Joker" poster? - Invalid Link Removed
It's interesting when you actually understand who the Joker is and what his character did to have his way. Some scary similarities.
tyler4
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Wow. That pic is kinda eery. We are doomed....oh well. I try not to involve myself in that too much though, it just gets me too fired up.
Irish Cannon
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VolcomX311
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Creepy how well that make up works out on him. The left has already began to make a fuss, screaming racism & what not blah bah blah. I'm going to start screaming racism about everything myself, "Obama care is racist! Bigotry against personal choice, now react with fear and sympathy because I used the R word, someone invite me for a beer summit."
Columbia college just awarded someone for a stamp art contest, George Bush shooting himself with a gun. Oh but wait, painting Dear Leader as a clown is more outrageous and did I mention racist?
VolcomX311
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I believe the original Joker-bama poster had the word, "socialist" beneath it. I
tyler4
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VolcomX311
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What do you think about Fedor signing with Strike Force and passing up the UFC?
VolcomX311
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and what are your thoughts on UFC 101? I think a Penn victory better be a given, considering the caliber of his last opponent and what's your call on Silva/Griffin?
tyler4
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It's a shame on one hand really. I mean, as a fan, I wanted him to fight in the UFC. But there's two sides to this one I guess. I dont like how Dana is calling him out now, that a little bush but whatever. Like Fedor said, if he fought in the UFC, Dana would refer to him as the GOAT. I have a feeling Dana is playing the "we tried everything under the sun to get him" card so he can satisfy the fans.
Penn better take this one. I remember when Florian was on TUF, I thought he was terrible. But I'll admit, he has come a long way.
One thing I do know is this. BJ's weakness seems to be when he is on the bottom and there is a bigger/stronger guy on top (victim of the G&P). But I dont see that being a problem with Ken Flo.
VolcomX311
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Yeah, I really don't see Florian being on top posing any problems for BJ. His latest G&P loss via GSP was an anomoly. GSP makes everyone he puts on their back look like a flipped turtle, from the strong wrestler Matt Hughes, to purely strong athletes such as Alves. Personally, I don't even see Florian as being in BJ's class, just like when BJ fought Joe Stevenson. I was painfully anxious with the Penn/GSP match up, but the Penn/Florian, eh..... It's a Penn/Stevenson to me. Kenny is good, but I don't know about BJ Penn good. However, all that said, if Penn loses, it'll be Gonzaga/Cro Cop all over again and I may need some counseling.
With Griffin/Silva, I can definitely see Griffin winning, but I'm leaning toward Silva. I think Silva is more masterfully technical in both striking and BJJ, but Griffin is also technical, just not "as technical" and carries a significant ape strength advantage. That'll be a battle for Silva. I think Griffin will not only be more aggressive then his last opponents, but also more successfully aggressive and I don't think Griffin will beat himself mentally before the fight, like Irvin was.
Fedor is a mixed bag of feelings. I am known to have a tire swing hanging from his testicles, but man. UFC events are the events you get together with people and watch like a legit sports event. Watching those other organizations feels more like a private, side interest type of thing, so its just different. Fedor has always had a pass with not being in the UFC, but once he "chose" not to be, even though Dana offered him the ability to participate in Sambo tournies (and a psychotically flamboyant financial contract), his long term stock went down. His skills will continue to be respected as GOAT, but the interest in his fights and future fights are lack luster in my opinion. I don't think that the level of HW competition is that drastically different, but if you have a star running back playing for the NFL, he'll outshine a better running back playing Arena Ball, that's just the nature of sports. The organization plays a large role on the ambiance of the athlete and the UFC is growing more and more into the NFL of MMA then any other organization.
tyler4
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Me too brotha...me too. But I dont see it happening. I ordered BJ's walkout shirt but I dont think it will be here until after the fight
I feel the same way about Fedor. But, I still watch the events from other organizations, just not with a lot of people. So as long as I still get to see him throw down, I'm good.
VolcomX311
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I hear ya, I don't know where BJ can go as far as truly exciting competition, unless GSP moves up. I want to see a BJ Penn/Nick Diaz, somehow, someday. That would get me excited.
tyler4
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tyler4
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So this morning w/o thing is kinda two fold. One one hand I like it and on the other, I dont. I mean, you guys know after DC you're pretty spent and really just want to lay down.
Anyways, todays w/o was pretty good. I'll update fully later but I got 305x4 on deads. Which is pretty good for me. I really think I could have gotten more.
On a side effect note, I am seeing some acne pop up. Not sure if it's from the cycle or because I havent been out in the sun in a couple weeks (that seems to clear up my chest acne). But oh well.
Anyways, todays w/o was pretty good. I'll update fully later but I got 305x4 on deads. Which is pretty good for me. I really think I could have gotten more.
On a side effect note, I am seeing some acne pop up. Not sure if it's from the cycle or because I havent been out in the sun in a couple weeks (that seems to clear up my chest acne). But oh well.
tyler4
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So I'm tossing around the idea of cutting the cycle a week or so short. Due to my latest blood results, I really want to try a couple things to see if I can get my natural tests levels up to par and my E levels down.
So this being my fourth week, I may just finish up 5 total weeks and start PCT. I started PP early so I dont think it would be a terrible idea. Any suggestions?
I havent decided for sure either way. I do know that I will be buying a take home hormone test to see where everything is at, so that I can better plan my PCT. This way I wont overdue/underdose anything. I'll probably take that this weekend.
So this being my fourth week, I may just finish up 5 total weeks and start PCT. I started PP early so I dont think it would be a terrible idea. Any suggestions?
I havent decided for sure either way. I do know that I will be buying a take home hormone test to see where everything is at, so that I can better plan my PCT. This way I wont overdue/underdose anything. I'll probably take that this weekend.
hman85
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How much have you gained so far?
Irish Cannon
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I think that's a fine idea. 5 weeks is a nice cycle, and 6 always seems a little long to me anyways. By the final week, I'm begging to get back to the natural order...unless it's an injectable Test cycle.
tyler4
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Not really any mood swings and hardly any aggression. I had a lot more aggression when I ran The One.
I'll keep thinking about it. I'm not at all dissapointed in the cycle BTW. But I mean, if I can increase some strength and gain a pound or two, then I say it's a success. All these guys who want 20 lb gains in 4-5 weeks are only fooling themselves if they think thats mostly muscle.
I plan on this being my last OTC cycle. My stance on this stuff has kinda changed.
tyler4
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Around 9-10 lbs. Gained some strength and deff thickened up a bit. But most of that 9-10lbs is glycogen.
tyler4
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I think that's a fine idea. 5 weeks is a nice cycle, and 6 always seems a little long to me anyways. By the final week, I'm begging to get back to the natural order...unless it's an injectable Test cycle.
I'm almost ready to get back to natural order now
BUT, if your talking Test, then I'm in for the long haul.Irish Cannon
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There are seriously no noticeable side-effects when on Test, unless you're talking about estrogen-related sides, which are easily taken care of. I freaking loved that stuff. You feel great 100% of the time.
tyler4
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Exactly. Plus it's already being produced in you body...unlike this stuff.
Maybe one day.....
VolcomX311
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I wished I were able to man up and inject. I would have loved to have tried Test once in my life.
Irish Cannon
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You guys are making me want to get some.
tyler4
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You guys are making me want to get some.
Dooo eeeet. And while your at it, get some for this dood I know
VolcomX311
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You guys are making me want to get some.
This is dirty talk for IC, you guys are arousing him.
VolcomX311
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:lol:
hman85
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In 2 small cycles back when I had no clue:damnit: Man there's alot of sh1t I should have waited on and somethings I shouldn't have waited on ya know:think: You must first be young and stupid.