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TST v.s TRN v.s TST/TRN

ub6ib91

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Exactly like my title says, i am wondering the difference between taking a standalone of tst, a standalone of trn, and stacking the two together.

Would stacking these two together, yeild good bulking results in terms on LBM, and vascularity?

Thanks a lot!
 
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ub6ib91 said:
Exactly like my title says, i am wondering the difference between taking a standalone of tst, a standalone of trn, and stacking the two together.

Would stacking these two together, yeild good bulking results in terms on LBM, and vascularity?

Thanks a lot!
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megadose said:
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I did search. I foudn out that TRN is a low dose tren, well its assummed to be. Which would mean its more of a cutter. Now i no x-mass is max lmg which is a really good bulker, and in some thread i read, it said soemhting like x-mass and mega trn can be placed in the same catogory, which confused me.


Sorry if that was answered, but i cant find it. I did search tho. I learned its not that hard on ur liver, and it actually raises libido. Im more curious about stacking trn/tst, and how that different from a standalone trn.
 
why do u guys even bother posting if all ur gonna do is say "Got Search" seems like if u have nothing productive to say then let the post be
 
ub6ib91 said:
I did search. I foudn out that TRN is a low dose tren, well its assummed to be. Which would mean its more of a cutter. Now i no x-mass is max lmg which is a really good bulker, and in some thread i read, it said soemhting like x-mass and mega trn can be placed in the same catogory, which confused me.


Sorry if that was answered, but i cant find it. I did search tho. I learned its not that hard on ur liver, and it actually raises libido. Im more curious about stacking trn/tst, and how that different from a standalone trn.
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It depends on your goals, which you didn't state, so that is probably why the above post said "got search". Max LMG, and TRN are not in the same category in terms of their effects, but because of their mechanisms. Unless my memory fails me LMG is a progestin and so is TRN. Doing a standalone of TRN would not be a conducive to a bulking cycle because it is more suited for a cut/recomp. TST standalone would be much better suited for a straight bulking. Stacking the two would theoretically give you a cleaner bulk where you could add maintainable mass whilst keeping fat gain low. The got search was not on the straight information, but I think meant more for you to figure these things out for yourself.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Max LMG, and TRN are not in the same category in terms of their effects, but because of their mechanisms. Unless my memory fails me LMG is a progestin and so is TRN.
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I was just coming back to this thread to confirm this...MS beat me to it, but according to the GL site these are both progestins.

I can't remember who has been doing what logs, but there are a few highly respected members that are going on or just finishing up that used TST only or TST/TRN.
 
stxnas said:
I was just coming back to this thread to confirm this...MS beat me to it, but according to the GL site these are both progestins.

I can't remember who has been doing what logs, but there are a few highly respected members that are going on or just finishing up that used TST only or TST/TRN.
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Jminis did a TST standalone. Jmh80 is doing the combo. Motiv8tor I believe did the combo. And Mr.50 did TST
 
ub6ib91 said:
Exactly like my title says, i am wondering the difference between taking a standalone of tst, a standalone of trn, and stacking the two together.

Would stacking these two together, yeild good bulking results in terms on LBM, and vascularity?

Thanks a lot!
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my bad about the "got search" just get tired of answering the same questions and it doesn't help when goals are not listed. any ways from the threads and logs i read is that TRN is a cutter which has good (not anything drastic) gains lbm with no fat and water gain, TST is a little wet( not like m1t) so this would be used for a lean bulker. TRN/TST stack would be a lean bulk too but mre gains than taking them alone probaly more on the cutter side.
 
Why don't you try a pheramone-x/mega-trn stack? This would work out great at 30 mg/4 mg per day respectively.
 
You could bulk on either one but of coarse its simple logic both together should give the best results. More gear equals more results to an extent. From the logs I've seen I don't see why you couldn't gain a good amount of mass from mtrn. Most of the logs I see people are are cutting calories and still gaining weight. If you want to bulk with it just eat a surplus of calories.
 
how bout all three?
If you have to choose 2, I would go pheramone-x/trn for bulk, and the s-drol/trn for a cutter.
 
oswizzle said:
for bulking purposes would it be better suited to run this with PP or superdrol
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both are for bulking but pp has more water retention and fat gain. unlike pp, superdrol is a bulker but without the water(although some people get water retention and fat for some reason) and fat gain as with pp. Just remember that diet determines whether its bulker or cutter.
 
grexx said:
how bout all three?
If you have to choose 2, I would go pheramone-x/trn for bulk, and the s-drol/trn for a cutter.
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My bad about not telling what i wanted to do. I want to bulk up in the summer still, but with not as much fat gain. I heard you gain a lot of fat/water retention with x-mass, thats why ithink i was going to wate to do x-mass until the winter.

But dont get me wrong, i still want to bulk. This is my first cycle also, so i dont want to do anything crazy yet.

**So do you think TST/TRN would be a good bulker to add muscle size, for a first timer, or x-mass?

Thanks guys, i appreciate your help and consideration.
 
ub6ib91 said:
My bad about not telling what i wanted to do. I want to bulk up in the summer still, but with not as much fat gain. I heard you gain a lot of fat/water retention with x-mass, thats why ithink i was going to wate to do x-mass until the winter.

But dont get me wrong, i still want to bulk. This is my first cycle also, so i dont want to do anything crazy yet.

**So do you think TST/TRN would be a good bulker to add muscle size, for a first timer, or x-mass?

Thanks guys, i appreciate your help and consideration.
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since this is your first cycle i would not recomend stacking for a couple reasons 1)this is first cycle shouldn't stack first cycle 2) it will be harder for you make gains later. For lean mass i would go with either M TST or sd (if your up for the sides and think you can handle them) another option you didn't mention would be phera plex, less sides than SD but a little wetter than m tst. Both M TST and pp have less sides than SD.
 
for cutting cycle of these supplements, I would use thr TRN and mega-Zol.. JMO

I would also use these for 6 weeks w/ Test Prop for 8 weeks... but thats Just me.
 
I think the recomp effects I'm seeing with TST/TRN are very good. So, I'd be comfortable recommending it for a first timer. Just make sure you get enough blood pressure support (including C-12 when Custom puts it back out) as I've had issues.

I don't know much about X-mass.
 
Give Trn a try...by itself. Start at 2mg for the first week then bump it to 4mg. I have heard that the sides really kick in at 6mg so be careful. I am finishing up a TRN/Zol recomp. cycle and I just dropped the zol. I think I like the Trn better by itself.
 
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