TST and TRN Metabolites
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dirtysouthmuscl
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Man Im all screwed up now!!!! I have the 6mg trn. And you'll are saying its not the same as the other one. So WTF is it better or worse. I want the good S***. If I wanted crape I would have went to Muscle-Techs web site. Now Im wondering if its just the M-TST working.
swole210
Registered User
dirtysouthmuscl said:Man Im all screwed up now!!!! I have the 6mg trn. And you'll are saying its not the same as the other one. So WTF is it better or worse. I want the good S***. If I wanted crape I would have went to Muscle-Techs web site. Now Im wondering if its just the M-TST working.
No, if you have the Generic Labz TRN, then you are good to go! That is a legit product, the only legit TRN product! So if you have the GL stuff, it is the good S***!
dirtysouthmuscl
Banned
Man I have KS Aren't they a sponsor on this board. Thats how I heard about it. Well if its BS , The M-TST Is some Killer S***. Ok what would youll recomend. Im finishing M-TST/M-TRN. I was going to use IGF. Any suggestions. Please Help!!!!!
Desperate Brother!!!!!
Desperate Brother!!!!!
dirtysouthmuscl
Banned
I want something to give the same results as tren. But I take drug test everymonth for probation. I just wasnt as hard as i was from tren. Im 33 its a little harder without being able to eat and train as hard as I used to b4 Katrina. Im so jammed up with work. But cant pass up the bucks. What do you think about my desire to try the IGF next or should I do something else. Im just getting my shape where I want. and I think I have alot of cortisal in my system. Dont understand I just never get as Lean In the abs.
dirtysouthmuscl
Banned
Yo !!! I talked to youll the other day I was waiting on the 80mcg. Is it in.
dirtysouthmuscl
Banned
No I was calling couldnt get anyone Fri, If they got it Ill take it RIGHT NOW!!!!!! I talked to j*** wed, thur . I guess Ill try again Mon. I hope its in Daddys Ready!!!! And if you talk to them let Them know hold one for Hollywood . I will deff call mon. Sometimes I can get online but most of the time it reads Error on Page.
dirtysouthmuscl
Banned
Then dont read them!!!!
xtraflossy
Board Supporter
yeahright said:
Wasent there some mention that the "REAL / Original" TRN as NOT a libedo killer? IF thats the case, then something must be off, because for the week I took TRN, IT TOTALLY Killed my libedo- as in loosing hard-ons durring sex...
So, if caused that effect in me (and I realize other results may vary) and the Methoxy-TRN doesn't kill your sex drive, something HAS to be different ...right??
dirtysouthmuscl
Banned
Man the KS M-TRN has me so jacked. As for Pepe!! His up 24/7 cant beat him down. LOL. So there must be something diff. Im 33 and I tell you im 3weeks in feeling like a beast!!!!
dirtysouthmuscl
Banned
No thank God my bp is good. After 17hd i just got my BP normal. But Im taking 2/3mg ad , and 6mg/ad of M-TST(BS). I take The M-TST in the morn w/breakfast and about an hr later then I take the M-TRN . I started to yawn alot when I took them at the same time. My next pill I take about 1hr b4 I workout.
dirtysouthmuscl
Banned
Yes , I was nervous about the yawns b/c I heard that was from lack of oxygen to the brain. But as soon as I put that hr in between Im fine. But there is a thread on here by author that say trn by Kilo is not real. Its s***. No one knows what it really is.
stxnas
Well-known member
I just did a quick search on HMGear and they were bought out by another company that is selling an herbal product that is supposed to increase free test while lowering estrogen and cortisol...hmmm, sounds a little familiar.
Anyway, when people are saying that they got the yawns from TRN...is that accompanied by a lot of lethargy too?
Anyway, when people are saying that they got the yawns from TRN...is that accompanied by a lot of lethargy too?
okboy63
Board Supporter
People do report lethargy and libidio loss. But some report increase in libidio. Need somebody who has taken both 1-test and M-trn to compare
the two.
ALRI's old add for (M-trn) said
Due to Methoxy-TRN™ possessing a progestin structure etc
I don't know if 1-test had a progestin structure?
PA talking about 1ad
In explaining what it does or how it works, some misconception has found its way into the reasoning. Again Patrick Arnold, who first likened its action to that of the steroid trenbolone (19-Nor-androsta-4,9,11-trien-3-one)
the two.
ALRI's old add for (M-trn) said
Due to Methoxy-TRN™ possessing a progestin structure etc
I don't know if 1-test had a progestin structure?
PA talking about 1ad
In explaining what it does or how it works, some misconception has found its way into the reasoning. Again Patrick Arnold, who first likened its action to that of the steroid trenbolone (19-Nor-androsta-4,9,11-trien-3-one)
BigMattTx
Active member
dirtysouthmuscl said:
I think Author's post was misleading. It implied that all of the companies distributing the new designers are creating them in-house. In reality, I think most of the companies (maybe ALL) are importing the raws from China. So, it really comes down to how good their source is. Considering that you are getting the yawns from Trenadrol, I would assume that it is actually the same compound as Methoxy-TRN as I have never heard of this side from any other AAS. As far as the dosing goes, it may not actually be 3mg but who knows.
BigMattTx
Active member
stxnas said:
Pyramid...started at 2mg for a couple weeks then 4mg for 2 weeks then 6mg on the last week. The sides hit hard on the last week. 4mg was the dose for me...it gave me excellent results and practically no sides. 6mg really set in the libido loss, lethargy and created a noticeable BP raise. I will probably run TRN again as it proudces good results with minimal sides if taken at the right dose. Next time I will run it at 4mg the whole time and probably stack it with TST, ZOL or something of the like.
xtraflossy
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Ok ,after a discussion last night with a family member, I found out that not only do I/he have access to a mass spectromiter, but turns out he owns it, (paid for by grant money), and doesnt cost anything to run something through.
Now, it's at a research facility on metabolic desieses, in another state then me, so mailing a sample could take a little while, plus, you have to make the substance volitile- and you kinda have to know a few things about what you are looking for to run the comparrisions.
Im not all that familure with what is needed. I mean, I have actually used the machine before, and got a demo with the entire process last year.
I guess, what Im asking, is what sort of information would I need to to give on TST that would help? Has anyone done these type of things before? Actually, Im not even sure as to the type of results that I'll get from this test. I know the output is in graph form, and the comparrision is to a database, so if this is a "new" substance, and not in a database, would any of the information gathered from this bennifit anyone?
Now, it's at a research facility on metabolic desieses, in another state then me, so mailing a sample could take a little while, plus, you have to make the substance volitile- and you kinda have to know a few things about what you are looking for to run the comparrisions.
Im not all that familure with what is needed. I mean, I have actually used the machine before, and got a demo with the entire process last year.
I guess, what Im asking, is what sort of information would I need to to give on TST that would help? Has anyone done these type of things before? Actually, Im not even sure as to the type of results that I'll get from this test. I know the output is in graph form, and the comparrision is to a database, so if this is a "new" substance, and not in a database, would any of the information gathered from this bennifit anyone?
Sea223
Member
Yeah- I knew we wouldn't have an answer by tomorrow- It'd just be nice to know. I'm gonna ingest whatever it is......and get freakin great gains. Later-jmh80 said:
Bye the way Jmh how's your weight doing? Where are you at? Anymore crazy work schedules? Those were jacked up especially on.
jmh80
Well-known member
No more crazy sh*t. I just get beat on by the elders....
I haven't weighted myself in a few days - will do tomorrow morning. But, early this week I was still at 170 lbs.
The Powerfull/V-12 Turbo/Rebound Reloaded/DHEA-bAET-7-OH-7 oxo transdermal/nettle root/Retain stack is really starting to kick in!
(AKA the Kitchin Sink - because I make too much money and don't spend it on anything but food, bills, and supps)
Had a great leg workout just now (except for knee pain during lunges - I had to stop).
The only issue is "the squirts" initially with the V-12 turbo. I think I'm going to see if Xceed may help (by taking it pre-WO and V-12 post-WO).
Thanks for asking Sea223. Good to see folks still read my logs.
I haven't weighted myself in a few days - will do tomorrow morning. But, early this week I was still at 170 lbs.
The Powerfull/V-12 Turbo/Rebound Reloaded/DHEA-bAET-7-OH-7 oxo transdermal/nettle root/Retain stack is really starting to kick in!
(AKA the Kitchin Sink - because I make too much money and don't spend it on anything but food, bills, and supps)
Had a great leg workout just now (except for knee pain during lunges - I had to stop).
The only issue is "the squirts" initially with the V-12 turbo. I think I'm going to see if Xceed may help (by taking it pre-WO and V-12 post-WO).
Thanks for asking Sea223. Good to see folks still read my logs.
xtraflossy
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Yeah-, I was thinking Klaus would know as well. Smart cartoon charecter he is! 
- I mean, someone has done something like this.
Monday Im going to compile all the "valid" info that hasbeen theorized, thinking that I can send it with the sample- it MIGHT help!?
- I mean, someone has done something like this.
Monday Im going to compile all the "valid" info that hasbeen theorized, thinking that I can send it with the sample- it MIGHT help!?
xtraflossy
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Well, like I said before, Im not really exactly sure what infor I'll need. I mean, If Im getting testing and such, I dont need even more speculatiuon, and I beleive Klause has made quite a few comments already to TST (If I remember correctly).
Ill do a little general research on mass spectromity and see what I get out of it.
Ill do a little general research on mass spectromity and see what I get out of it.
jmh80
Well-known member
Flos,
He posted what he thought the structure was of TRN for sure.
Not sure on TST.
But, I know he put a PDF of what he thought TRN was. I'd send that along. That should help deduce what the peaks mean.
If that's even what MS is. I took organic lab like 3 years ago - and promptly forgot after the final. I don't do that sort of stuff on a daily basis. We have a chemist for that.
He posted what he thought the structure was of TRN for sure.
Not sure on TST.
But, I know he put a PDF of what he thought TRN was. I'd send that along. That should help deduce what the peaks mean.
If that's even what MS is. I took organic lab like 3 years ago - and promptly forgot after the final. I don't do that sort of stuff on a daily basis. We have a chemist for that.
xtraflossy
Board Supporter
jmh80 said:
Well, I wasn't able to dig anything up,.. things got rough at work so I didnt have the time.
I'll be sending my belated Father's day card out this week (I already gave him a call,.. so don't jump on me!) and should send samples out at the same time.
I CAN include a TRN pill as well- I wont miss one ya know.
Hell, I guess I could send him one of everything I got, but if this is going to be done in the spare time (my sis is actually working at the lab too, using the machine- ) it could take longer for results: and thats assuming it produces something usefull.
I really dont know what else I'd send. Id DEFINATELY send an ERGOMAX though!! I have been wondering what that is supposed to be since I first popped one last year!
Anyways- I'll send him a TST, a TRN and an ERGO- It wont cost anything extra anyways- I'll have hime test the TST first though.
:study:
stinkfinger
Member
I'd love to see a testing of the first batch of Halodrol. Curious as to just how much DMT was present. Kellner got locked up before he could post the results.