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Trying to research coming up short.. Var vs SD?

Spee

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Hey guys a little about myself. I'm 20 been working out regularly since I was 15. By regularly I mean atleast 3 times a week. I've done all different types of training, dieting, and I always get 8 hours of sleep. When I was 18 I got pressured into buying my first cycle with no idea wtf I was doing.. This time I plan to be much more prepared, and know exactly what I'm getting myself into. Now into the abyss. Where I work everyone is doing Anavar, lots of guys around my age are, and are seeing really good results. Where I live lots of guys are doing Superdrol, and again great results. I'm not screwing around I want to do this 100% right, good pct, good cycle, everything. Both groups of guys are running there cycles without Test, and to my understanding that is foolish. So if I must, I'll inject myself again and do test. I'm 5'11-6ft 180-185, very big muscular legs, but still decent size up top. I just want to put on maybe 10-15 pounds of lean muscle. I just want to know what the best cycle to do is, and if cycling without test is okay. I eat healthy, and will obviously be completely eliminating drinking from my diet. I've been taking ephedrine to burn so extra fat in the mid section, really get cut. I'd say my bf% is 12-15 6 pack, just not overly defined. I'm just tired of working so freaking hard, for so long, doing everything right, and still getting surpassed by guys who know nothing just because they're juicing. I'm only going to live once, why not love my body and be happy?
I listed the two because I can get my hands on them easily, and there just the ones presented to me. I'd be willing to do a different one/stack if it was more suitable for my goals.
Appreciate any help, thanks.
 
Spee said:
I'm just tired of working so freaking hard, for so long, doing everything right, and still getting surpassed by guys who know nothing just because they're juicing.Appreciate any help, thanks.
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same here man.
superdrol is way more powerful than anavar and also is or should be way cheaper. its also way harder on your body though. 10-15 lbs of lean muscle should be pretty easy with SD. you dont need to run a test base with either imo. i typically do not like to advise anyone to take SD though, id go to something safer or something that has been around for a while. hdrol or pmag are good ph's. i would like to see how an anavar/test cycle would treat you though, but running test high not just as a base. thats sounds badass.
 
How hard is SD on the body.. and how are hdrol and pmag in comparison? less hard on the body? I'd like to get 10-15 pounds after the cycles said and done.. so probably would have to put a little more than that during the cycle. Var + test would that really be a good way to go? I'm kinda scared of injections, in the past when I did them I had so much adrenaline, and it took me like 15 minutes to finally stick myself. As far as the test high cycle, would that be less harsh than sd? and what are some liver protectors and good pct's to do for these kind of cycles? ex. Milk thistle, chlomid, nolva, tamox? I constantly get fed up and talk myself into doing a cycle and then see a lone post saying "wait till you 28" and then ***** out.. I'm 20 if done properly I could surely not completely F myself? Maybe I'm foolish. All help is so appreciated guys, Thanks for the help Tom.
 
Everyones gonna say wait till your 21. Theres so many options of what you could do. If you dont want to inject you could do just anavar or just superdrol. Superdrol for more size gains, anavar is pretty mild. I dont forsee you gaining 15lbs on anavar but u could do that in 3 weeks of superdrol, but u would probably keep half of it. If you want to keep 15, id run test and kickstart it with superdrol. Or u could run just straight test.
 
Spee said:
How hard is SD on the body.. and how are hdrol and pmag in comparison? less hard on the body? I'd like to get 10-15 pounds after the cycles said and done.. so probably would have to put a little more than that during the cycle. Var + test would that really be a good way to go? I'm kinda scared of injections, in the past when I did them I had so much adrenaline, and it took me like 15 minutes to finally stick myself. As far as the test high cycle, would that be less harsh than sd? and what are some liver protectors and good pct's to do for these kind of cycles? ex. Milk thistle, chlomid, nolva, tamox? I constantly get fed up and talk myself into doing a cycle and then see a lone post saying "wait till you 28" and then ***** out.. I'm 20 if done properly I could surely not completely F myself? Maybe I'm foolish. All help is so appreciated guys, Thanks for the help Tom.
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Superdrol is way harsher than hdrol or pmag, most people dont even get sides on them, excpet for maybe some back pumps. but they are not near as harsh on your liver and other things. Aside from maybe anadrol 50, SD is proly one of the more brutal orals out there (and yes high test is less harsh on the body than sd). but no need to do injections, but dont do anavar alone of your looking for 10 to 15 lbs. I would say do a 6 week cycle of hdrol or pmag, and theres also a new one out by antaeus labs called mechabol, you wont get quite the gains of superdrol but its a way more intelligent choice and youll still get great gains. there not that harsh and it can be stacked with a non methyl like trenazone. Im 21 and im a similar place as you. im not even a week into a promag 25 solo cycle and hoping to get 10-15lbs. i tried SD last year and by week 2 at 30mgs i went from struggling to get 275 on bench to 300 feeling light, but i had to quit in the middle due to sides and lost it all and felt llike crap on it. for liver i am taking a TUDCA based supp. Antaeus labs Aegis, also iv just used AI life support which has NAC, Milk thistle, hawthorn berry etc all in it. do a little bit more research on all the different types of prohormones this is a good website Invalid Link Removed ; look into hdrol or pmag and let me know what you think about them.
 
If you had access to genuine anavar --- not some under dosed or counterfeit from a random UGL --- I would opt for Anavar at 60-80 mgs a day for 6 weeks.

You will experience less horrid sides, be able to cycle longer without killing yourself and also have a better transition into pCT.

Not one to condone hormone usage so young and with still more time to fill out that taller frame but if the choice is between the 2 VAR all day long.....

-Matt
 
I did a cycle at 18 wondering if maybe that stunted my height growth.. do males typically grow taller after age 18? I mean I'm taller than my father.. My grandfather is slightly taller than I am.. and both my dads brothers are quite taller.. I don't know.. I feel like maybe I've grown a bit recently? Kind of random, just thought I'd ask. Also I've once again decided to wait, I've read some horror stories about guys needing trt and now I'm scared.. What is trt exactly? is it harsh or what is so bad about it?
 
Arnold starts when he was 16 I THINK SuperDrol and Anavar are two totally different compounds research!
 
schwellington said:
Arnold starts when he was 16 I THINK SuperDrol and Anavar are two totally different compounds research!
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o yah, arnold started juicing before that haha.

if your 20 and your body doesnt bounce back easily from a 6 week cycle then that would be extremely odd. but waiting is probably the best unless you want to be a mr olympia or something lol. but at 5'11 you should be able to get way bigger and stronger naturally. the best results iv had are from creatine monohydrate, arginine, and igf 1 from colostrum. Amazing, and colostrum is like a miracle supplement, tons of benefits and no sides. TRT is testosterone replacement therapy. Some people may not recover from a cycle the right way, but its usually due to them being dumb and abusing the drug, and even then it is pretty rare. but i think waiting is a good idea.
 
MattPorter said:
If you had access to genuine anavar --- not some under dosed or counterfeit from a random UGL --- I would opt for Anavar at 60-80 mgs a day for 6 weeks.

You will experience less horrid sides, be able to cycle longer without killing yourself and also have a better transition into pCT.

Not one to condone hormone usage so young and with still more time to fill out that taller frame but if the choice is between the 2 VAR all day long.....

-Matt
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I agree VAR all the way. You won't gain a ton of size but what you do put on will be high quality muscle you will keep.
 
Spee said:
Anyone know anything about Epistane? how hard is that on the system compared to s-drol?
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Its not as strong as superdrol but u can run it twice as long and make similar gains. Its easier on the liver and much lower on side effects.
 
Spee said:
Anyone know anything about Epistane? how hard is that on the system compared to s-drol?
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A lot milder, particularly my favorite compound so far. Pretty decent gains, with a nice leaning aspect and will harden u up pretty good.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
A lot milder, particularly my favorite compound so far. Pretty decent gains, with a nice leaning aspect and will harden u up pretty good.
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Do you think epi would be similar to var? Buddy of mine loves var but from what he tells me it sounds like how i would explain epistane.
 
tnubs said:
Do you think epi would be similar to var? Buddy of mine loves var but from what he tells me it sounds like how i would explain epistane.
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Better actually. I've had friends who were skeptical about epi cuz its legal so they considered it as a PH(even though its an oral steroid) and they used epi at higher doses(60mg) and they said it blew var away.
 
hey i just got my hands on 100 pills of 25mg anavar, the guy i received it from said just take 75 mg a day and thats it. This doesnt sounds right to me at all. im 6'3 190-200.

i was wondering how to take anavar properly and with what should i take/stack it with.

Also i heard that anavar will shut your libido down, is this true and if so what can i do/take to make sure this does not happen
thank you very much
 
smallguyprobs said:
hey i just got my hands on 100 pills of 25mg anavar, the guy i received it from said just take 75 mg a day and thats it. This doesnt sounds right to me at all. im 6'3 190-200.

i was wondering how to take anavar properly and with what should i take/stack it with.

Also i heard that anavar will shut your libido down, is this true and if so what can i do/take to make sure this does not happen
thank you very much
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Anavar at 75 mgs a day should be fantastic ---- It wont enhance the sex drive but I do not think it will leave you inthe gutter per se...

Why dont get you get 100 more caps and really test it out for 6+ weeks...

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
Anavar at 75 mgs a day should be fantastic ---- It wont enhance the sex drive but I do not think it will leave you inthe gutter per se...

Why dont get you get 100 more caps and really test it out for 6+ weeks...

-Matt
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This^^^

And add some test to make it even sweeter lol.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
This^^^

And add some test to make it even sweeter lol.
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This^^^^ And a SD or Dbol kicker. Then use var at the last 6 weeks.....
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Better actually. I've had friends who were skeptical about epi cuz its legal so they considered it as a PH(even though its an oral steroid) and they used epi at higher doses(60mg) and they said it blew var away.
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It didn't quite blow it away, but 50mg of Epi treated me better than 50mg Var, especially when you factor in cost.
 
Rodja said:
It didn't quite blow it away, but 50mg of Epi treated me better than 50mg Var, especially when you factor in cost.
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Very true bro. My boy said it came 2nd to tren ace, as far as leaning him out, that speaks volumes fur sure.
 
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