TRX250R's Pheraplex Standalone Log

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Friday 06/07/2007 Biceps/Triceps REP RANGE WEEK...Cycle Day 12[/size]​


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Let's just start by saying I got another bench press PR tonight :D...I normally doesn't max so often but I'm pretty sure I won't overtrain even If I max every week while on cycle...It's awesome since my bench normally hardly increase...It has gotten better lately but stills, PP is really giving me an edge...

Arms were pretty good too but the biceps pump was on the hardcore side (Really really painful)...I still seriously liked it though :D ...

Sides are now pretty much non-existant...Memory is alright, teeth are too...Everything is working like a charm...I'm actually already panning my next cycle :D (which I will run in about 3 months, I will give time to my body to recovers correctly)...Those products are really cancelling my slight genetic disavantage, so I really likes it :D... Seems having a really good diet pays off finally ;)

Oh and by the way, more and more people are noticing I'm gaining mass ;)

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FLAT BENCH PRESS MAXING

135x15
205x1
255x0.75 <--- Wasn't able to lock out :(
245x1 <--- New All Time Personal Record:D

One-Arm Preacher Curl + Ez Bar Curl

40x10 + 75x10
35x15 + 75x4 + 55x4

Hammer Curls Supersetted With Overhead Cable Curls

40x10 + 50x15
40x8 + 50x8 (Form Check) + 40x4

Alternate Dumbell Curl Dropset

35x8 + 25x6

Triceps Pushdowns Supersetted With Dips

90x14 + BW x 10
100x7 + BW x 10

Reverse Grip Ez Bar Bench Press Supersetted With Underhand Grip Triceps Pushdown

120x15 + 60x8
160x4 + 50x12

Overhead Dumbell Press Dropset

75x10 + 65x4


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Weight: 183.50

Weight increase is restarted ;)
 
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Saturday 07/07/2007 Off... SHOCK WEEK...Cycle Day 13[/size]​


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Off day...Not sore anymore :(

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Weight: 185.0


Another 1.5 pounds :lol:
 
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Sunday 08/07/2007 Off... SHOCK WEEK...Cycle Day 14[/size]​


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Off day...

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Weight: 186.0


Another pound :head:
 
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SECOND WEEK MARK THOUGHTS[/size]​


I've been at 30 mg this week and gained another 5.5 pounds, for a total of 11.5 so far, which is not bad at all :D

Strenght gains are being phenomenal, ridiculous, beyond possible, I can't believe it...

I'm not seeing as much size gains though (I'm maybe a bit fat, so that's why muscle mass increase is not that evident)

I'm not getting any side effects anymore (Teeth are correct, no more lethargy, memory lapse that had me worried are now gone)...

I'm not feeling like I'm on anything excepting in the gym, in the kitchen and on the scale :D
 
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Monday 09/07/2007 Chest/Shoulders POWER WEEK...Cycle Day 15[/size]​


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Seriously, I don't feel I'm on something, but my muscles tell me otherwise, wow :eek:

Seriously, get this, I gained 25 pounds on my bench since last power week....I did 200x3.5, 195x4, 195x3 and 185x4.5 last time...I did, get this, 225x3.5, 225x2.5 ,215x3.5, 185x4.5...Same thing on incline dumbell, took 80 and 85 instead of 70 and 75 :eek:

Considering chest is my weakness, it's seriously unbelievable...I'm gonna max again friday ;)....

I'm amazed what some exogenous hormone source can do to a body when being used in conjunction with good training and a solid diet plan :D...I've seriously gotten 6 months worth of gains in 3 weeks...Only thing worrying me at the moment is that I hope I keep most of that strenght at the end...Only time will tell...

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Chest



Flat Bench Press

225x3.5 (+0.5 Spotted Rep)
225x2.5 (+0.5 Spotted Rep)
215x3.5 (+0.5 Spotted Rep, +1 Negative Rep)
205x4 (+1 Negative Rep)

Decline Bench Press

225x2
205x6 <--- Shoulder Pain

Incline Dumbell Press

80x6
85x4


Shoulders


Seated Barbell Military Press

135x5
135x4

Standing Barbell Military Press

125x5
125x5

Machine Military Press

140x7
150x7
170x4


Seated Dumbell Military Press

65x4.5 (+0.5 Spotted Rep)
65x4

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Weight: 187.0

WEIGHT GAIN SINCE LAST WEEK: +6 Pounds
 
nycste said:
sounds great man. glad everythings working out well and gratz on your strength gains.
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Thanks you man...Last thing I need to max is squat...I'll aim for 350...I just need to master the parallel squat technique, I'm only used going ATG :icon_lol:
 
looks like **** is going real good now. PP wont dissappoint you this time haha, good first cycle so far and 11+ pounds is really really good so far. 3rd week gets better! Keep it up and check that diet just in case
 
pistonpump said:
looks like **** is going real good now. PP wont dissappoint you this time haha, good first cycle so far and 11+ pounds is really really good so far. 3rd week gets better! Keep it up and check that diet just in case
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Thanks you sir...I'm actually really liking it so far...

I'd say if I have something to modify a bit, it would be about my diet...In my opinion, I take too much whey and not enough whole food for protein...My diet is REALLY good but not as Perfect as while I'm in college...
 
you weight/strenght gains are amazing to say the least and the 3rd week is when things start to get even better! :D

You're quickly becoming a lot stronger on chest moves, surely one of the best strenght gains I've heard of so far while on PP!! What will make you retain most of your gains (strenght and size wise) is your training in at least the first month after your cycle. Diet is the most important thing at this point, I've felt like lots of protein are needed in order to retain as much muscle mass and strenght as possible.

You're definitely on the right track, keep it up for the other half you'll be amazed :D

Later bro,

Red
 
redvision said:
you weight/strenght gains are amazing to say the least and the 3rd week is when things start to get even better! :D

You're quickly becoming a lot stronger on chest moves, surely one of the best strenght gains I've heard of so far while on PP!! What will make you retain most of your gains (strenght and size wise) is your training in at least the first month after your cycle. Diet is the most important thing at this point, I've felt like lots of protein are needed in order to retain as much muscle mass and strenght as possible.

You're definitely on the right track, keep it up for the other half you'll be amazed :D

Later bro,

Red
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Thanks you Red...I admit my chest gains are ridiculous...I hear ya on the PCT diet...

Your input is appreciated as always !
 
EasyEJL said:
Lookin really good. Making me consider a pulse of PP again. How do you think your bodyfat is doing?
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Thanks you sir !

I'd say a maybe gained a bit of fat but nothing exagerrated...I think that with the goals I have, it's better to eat too much (Of good food indeed) while on cycle than not enough...
 
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Tuesday 10/07/2007 Legs POWER WEEK...Cycle Day 16[/size]​


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Before getting out of bed this morning, my stomach seemed a bit upset (cramped and a bit painful...Problem digesting)...That normally doesn't happens and I didn't eat anything special before going to bed, so that's maybe the first occurance of my liver being overworked too much :D

That was actually the first non-so-good workout but It wasn't PP related...It's just that I harmed my right knee on my second set of squat...So quads were pretty much out of the game since it was painful to leg presses 200 pounds...Didn't want to push it :(

Nothing really special besides that, that was a smooth workout :(


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Squat

275x4
275x4

Legs Presses

---NONE---

Lying Leg Curls

130x5
120x5
110x6
110x6


Standing One-Leg Curl

40x7
40x8

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Weight: 187.0
 
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Wednesday 11/07/2007 Off... POWER WEEK...Cycle Day 17[/size]​


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Off day...

Nothing special to add :)

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Weight: 183.5

3.5 pounds lost since yesterday :confused:...I weighted in a bit later than usual...and it sometimes happens I have a fluctuation like that once a week lol
 
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Thursday 12/07/2007 Back POWER WEEK...Cycle Day 18[/size]​


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Well, well, well...today was the usual sh1zn1t lol....Mad strenght gains, weight gain and getting bigger ;)

I was yet again amazed at the strenght I'm gaining...If I use a weight I used last power week, I lift it like a warmup weight since it's so ridiculously easy...

I've hit the 190 pounds mark (I must admit I weighted myself after taking a shake in the morning though)...So It would put me at a 15.5 pounds gain since the beginning :eek:

I've also ordered my ATD Tonight (I didn't already have it in stock as opposed to my nolva)...If it's not there by monday in 2 weeks, I'll extend my cycle a bit until I get it...No big deal since I'm not experiencing sides...

This cycle is sick...I'm responding extremely good to this compound...And It's not placebo...I'm still using perfect form in my exercices...I don't use a smaller ROM to gives me good conscience about getting stronger ;)

If the gains continue like this and I see the possibility to get to 200, I will maybe push it to 5 weeks as long as I stay sides free....

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Strapped Deadlift

405x4
455x1
495x0.75 <--- Wasn't able to lock knees :(

One-Arm Dumbell Row

100x8
115x5
115x4

Wide Grip Pullups

BW x 9
BW x 7
BW x 7

Lats Pulldowns

190x8
205x4
190x6

Machine Shrugs

---WILL DO THEM TOMORROW AND EDIT---

Dumbell Shrugs

---WILL DO THEM TOMORROW AND EDIT---


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Weight: 190.0 :eek:
 
Hey TRX250R, this is one of the most organized and well-written logs I've ever read. Good job buddy.

I have one think to ask. Can you explain this training program in more detail. It sounds very interesting and am possibly considering using it in the near future since I've been using the same one for awhile and would like to switch it up to something I've never tried before. Thanks.
 
AM07 said:
Hey TRX250R, this is one of the most organized and well-written logs I've ever read. Good job buddy.

I have one think to ask. Can you explain this training program in more detail. It sounds very interesting and am possibly considering using it in the near future since I've been using the same one for awhile and would like to switch it up to something I've never tried before. Thanks.
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Thanks you sir, I'm doing my best to have a useful for others log :)

This program is seperated in 3 specific weeks... Power, Rep range and Shock week

Power week is essentially compound moves being executed in 4-6 reps range

Rep range week normally worked in the 7-15 range...I do a compound in 7-9 range first, then a semi-compound (Like Machine Military Press) or an isolation move in a 10-12 range, then I finally finish with another semi-compound or isolation in the 13-15 range...You can do more than 3 exercices though (AND BY THE WAY, SEMI-COMPOUND IS JUST A TERM I JUST INVENTED LOL)

Shock Week is essentially the mad pump week...I start with a compound in the 8-10 reps range and superset it with an isolation move in the same reps range...Then I normally do another of those supersets and move to another intensity technique for the last exercice (Normally dropset)

Hope it helps a bit!
 
I'm currently thinking about bumping the dosage to 37.5 mg ED for next week (and until I get my atd)...Thinking it could be good since I have like zero side effects....Good idea or overkill ?

Thanks:bb3:
 
Awesome progress!

In all honestly though, I'd stay at 30mg for the remaining of the cycle. I don't see why you should bump the dosage since you're still gaining pretty well, but I also know that we're always tempted to take more...

Anyway, whatever you decide, best of luck for the last week and don't forget, you have plenty of time to grow ahead of you, no need to rush into your first cycle man.

Just my thoughts,
Keep up the good work

Red
 
redvision said:
Awesome progress!

In all honestly though, I'd stay at 30mg for the remaining of the cycle. I don't see why you should bump the dosage since you're still gaining pretty well, but I also know that we're always tempted to take more...

Anyway, whatever you decide, best of luck for the last week and don't forget, you have plenty of time to grow ahead of you, no need to rush into your first cycle man.

Just my thoughts,
Keep up the good work

Red
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I've took your advice since the beginning, and it will continue that way ;)

I'm gonna stay at 30 mg :)


By the way, check your Pm on bb.com

Thanks as always :)
 
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Friday 13/07/2007 Biceps/Triceps POWER WEEK...Cycle Day 19[/size]​


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Pretty good training again...Nothing too shabby, only 15 more pounds on my max bench press :rolleyes: :D...Let's just say I'm not strong on chest, but I'm definitly not ''weak'' anymore...Feeling pretty good about it :)

That's it for today folks! The weights speaks for themselves !

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FLAT BENCH PRESS MAXING

135x15
205x2
260x1 <--- New All Time Personal Record:D
265x0

EZ Bar Curl

110X7
110x5
110x5
110x5

Close Grip Bench Press

205x4
205X3.5 (+0.5 Spotted Rep)
195x4 (+1 Spotted Rep)
195x4 (+1 Spotted Rep)

Seated Alternate Dumbell Curl

45x8
45x8
45x7

Seated Overhead Dumbell Triceps Press

105x5
105x5
105x4

One-Arm Spider Curl

40x6
40x4

Light Side Triceps Pushdown

160x18
160x16



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Weight: 187.0

Weight Fluctuation again...no big deal
 
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Saturday 14/07/2007 Off... POWER WEEK...Cycle Day 20[/size]​


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Off day...Arms are pretty sore...


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Weight: 189.0
 
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Sunday 15/07/2007 Off... POWER WEEK...Cycle Day 21[/size]​


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Off day...


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Weight: 189.0
 
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THIRD WEEK MARK THOUGHTS[/size]​


Gained another 3 pounds this week, meaning I've gained 14.5 pounds since the beginning...Weight gains have now slowed, but every pound gained at the moment is really evident since it's surely muscle/quality mass and not water anymore...

Strenght gains are still being phenomenal, ridiculous, beyond possible, I still can't believe it... :D

Since I'm at home for summer (in college during the rest of the year), my parents are seeing me daily...My mom was kinda angry yesterday since she saw me shirtless in the house and told me I've gained a lot of mass lately in the last month and especially in the last week...She asked me what the hell I was taking :D...Good to know it's noticeable even for somebody seeing me daily :eek:

Back pumps are seriously painful at job though...I'm also starting to get some heartburns when I'm eating something fat, so my liver is probably starting to be affected a bit...I also have a strange feeling in the heart sometimes, like I'm feeling air going through it...No real heart issues in my family so I'm not really worried, and I've also read a thread about Pheraplex and the heart, with people getting similar side effects...


All inputs are still welcomed :)
 
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Monday 16/07/2007 Chest/Shoulders REP RANGE WEEK...Cycle Day 22[/size]​


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Seriously, I don't even how the gains I'm doing are even physically possible...It probably explains why my joints are hurting like hell at the moment, looks like they don't want to follow the muscles's progress :D

Get this...I've putted 20-25 more pounds on my incline bench and pumped more reps on every sets than 3 weeks ago....10-15 pounds and about 3-4 more reps on flat bench... It's simply ridiculous and awesome at the same time :D

Back pumps were hell at job today though...Yesterday too...It's seriously awful...I should take some taurine before going to work

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Chest


Incline Bench Press

185x8.5 (+0.5 Spotted)
195x5
185x7
185x6 (+1 Negative Rep)

FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, I SEE THE THIRD HOLE ON THE BENCH

Flat Bench Press

175x10.5 (+0.5 Spotted Rep)
185x7.5 (+0.5 Spotted Rep)
175x8 (+1 Spotted Rep)

Pec-Deck

130x10
130x9


Shoulders


Seated Barbell Military Press

115x10.5 (+0.5 Spotted Rep)
115x7
115x6 (+1 Spotted Rep)

Front Alternate Dumbell Raise

30x14
30x12
30x10

Reverse Pec-Deck Flyes

130x15
130x12


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Weight: 190.5

WEIGHT GAIN SINCE LAST WEEK: +3.5 Pounds

Less gains, but I can swear those 3.5 pounds are all quality mass :D:box:
 
Great job man. Phera did the same for me but not as much weight. People were trippin out on how much bigger i looked i got comments all the time. And strength gains increased every workout.
 
How are you dosing your Phera throughout the day? I'm curious, because I've been dosing 20mg AM and then since I upped the dosage to 30 mg this week I was splitting between AM and PM. I've been told however, some people like to spread it out throughout the day. Just curious how you've been taking it since you're getting great results.
 
Nabisco said:
How are you dosing your Phera throughout the day? I'm curious, because I've been dosing 20mg AM and then since I upped the dosage to 30 mg this week I was splitting between AM and PM. I've been told however, some people like to spread it out throughout the day. Just curious how you've been taking it since you're getting great results.
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well i think hes taking a different supplent of Phera number 1.

and number 2 i have been taking mine around noon and midnight for 20mg

30mg would be around noon around workout time aka 4-8 and then before bed 12-3

we gotta help each other out :thumbsup:
 
nycste said:
im jealous i aint seeing this much strength. thats sweet man.
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:p...thanks you man...By the way, I just subscribed to your log, didn't know you already started...

pistonpump said:
Great job man. Phera did the same for me but not as much weight. People were trippin out on how much bigger i looked i got comments all the time. And strength gains increased every workout.
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Thanks a lot :)...Strenght gains are always not too bad for me (even when I'm not on PH), but with the addition of them, they are ridiculous. I normally have trouble gaining quality mass even at 5000 calories/400+g proteins ED, but those products seems to solve the problem right now :p

Nabisco said:
How are you dosing your Phera throughout the day? I'm curious, because I've been dosing 20mg AM and then since I upped the dosage to 30 mg this week I was splitting between AM and PM. I've been told however, some people like to spread it out throughout the day. Just curious how you've been taking it since you're getting great results.
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I'm taking 15 mg in the morning, and then about 11 hours later, 30-45 minutes before my workout. Hope it helps !

nycste said:
we gotta help each other out :thumbsup:
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I Agree :D :thumbsup:




Thanks to all of you guys for following my log. I feel safer when I know i've got some experimented guys checking what I'm doing :p

On that, have a good day !

trx250r

EDIT: By the way guys, all those gains are awesome, but I'm currently wondering how much Will I keep implying my diet and PCT will be perfect ? I would feel kinda depressed losing all those hard earned gains :lol:
 
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By the way guys, all those gains are awesome, but I'm currently wondering how much Will I keep implying my diet and post cycle therapy will be perfect ? I would feel kinda depressed losing all those hard earned gains :lol:
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And that:

TRX250R said:
I also have a strange feeling in the heart sometimes, like I'm feeling air going through it...No real heart issues in my family so I'm not really worried, and I've also read a thread about Pheraplex and the heart, with people getting similar side effects...
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Inputs would be greatly appreciated
 
I lost only a few pounds after cycle...I kept gaining in strength when i was in PCT too. Alot of people keep the gains made from Phera but you could have put on alot of water. If you keep diet and training good youll be fine. Some will suggest to drop the weights in PCT or keep them the same, im still up in the air about this one.

Ive never heard about related PP heart problems..
 
Nice log with some great planning. If only everyone planned as much as you did :study:

Concerning your joint issues, I've used 3 cissus products over the past 4 or 5 months and the best is USP SuperCissusRX. It worked even better when I added a few grams of fish oil throughout the day.

Your post cycle therapy outline is very well devised with a serm, ai, natty test booster, and cort control. Also don't feel like you are the only one having difficulty choosing an ai. The AI debate on post cycle therapy is probably the MOST COMMON contoversies when planning cycles.

In my experience, I got absolutely NOTHING from JW and BAM and would NOT recommend either of them in post cycle therapy. I have read about the JW controversy and dislike the product for it's inneffectiveness, rather than it's chemical structure. Same goes for BAM. There seems to be a ton of hype behind these products and I'm not sure why :think:

Just a heads up: after sifting through logs, it seems as if everyone who has libido issues in post cycle therapy is using ATD. You may want to reconsider the suggestion to use 6-oxo. Serm + 6-oxo + retain (as you already had planned) would make an excellent post cycle therapy.

Logging is hard work but beneficial for everyone. Keep up the good work.
 
pistonpump said:
I lost only a few pounds after cycle...I kept gaining in strength when i was in post cycle therapy too. Alot of people keep the gains made from Phera but you could have put on alot of water. If you keep diet and training good youll be fine. Some will suggest to drop the weights in PCT or keep them the same, im still up in the air about this one.

Ive never heard about related PP heart problems..
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It's probably shortness of breath :think:

Here is the thread about it :

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As for the gains, I'm glad to hear I'm normally gonna keep most of time. I've planned to use the same poundage as I used during the cycle while on PCT for my joints and to see If I'm still able to push the same weight.

As for mass, I'm aware I've gained a lot of water and that I will lose it post-cycle.

Thanks you !

celc5 said:
Nice log with some great planning. If only everyone planned as much as you did :study:

Concerning your joint issues, I've used 3 cissus products over the past 4 or 5 months and the best is USP SuperCissusRX. It worked even better when I added a few grams of fish oil throughout the day.

Your post cycle therapy outline is very well devised with a serm, ai, natty test booster, and cort control. Also don't feel like you are the only one having difficulty choosing an ai. The AI debate on post cycle therapy is probably the MOST COMMON contoversies when planning cycles.

In my experience, I got absolutely NOTHING from JW and BAM and would NOT recommend either of them in post cycle therapy. I have read about the JW controversy and dislike the product for it's inneffectiveness, rather than it's chemical structure. Same goes for BAM. There seems to be a ton of hype behind these products and I'm not sure why :think:

Just a heads up: after sifting through logs, it seems as if everyone who has libido issues in post cycle therapy is using ATD. You may want to reconsider the suggestion to use 6-oxo. Serm + 6-oxo + retain (as you already had planned) would make an excellent post cycle therapy.

Logging is hard work but beneficial for everyone. Keep up the good work.
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Thanks you sir...I finally settled for ATD since It was already ordered...I reckon 6-0x0 would probably be a best choice next cycle though, but for now, I don't have the money to afford to order some 6-oxo on top of the ATD

Thanks you for everything!
 
TRX250R said:
Thanks you sir...I finally settled for ATD since It was already ordered...I reckon 6-0x0 would probably be a best choice next cycle though, but for now, I don't have the money to afford to order some 6-oxo on top of the ATD
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Sir? Ha! :lol: Keep us posted when you get to pct on the libido. You said nolva 40/40/20/20. How do u plan to dose the others? Which ATD did you choose?
 
This is a great log man. I have read through tons of phera plex logs on a bunch of sites and this one takes the cake as far as phera logs go. You have been very thorough and your results have been amazing!
 
celc5 said:
Sir? Ha! :lol: Keep us posted when you get to post cycle therapy on the libido. You said nolva 40/40/20/20. How do u plan to dose the others? Which ATD did you choose?
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Probably gonna run the ATD @ 75/50/50/25. I bought SNS Inhibit-E. I will also throw in Bad ass mass for appetite and Retain 2 For cortisol inhibition. I will run both at recommended dosage. I'll keep ya informed on the libido !

Botch said:
This is a great log man. I have read through tons of phera plex logs on a bunch of sites and this one takes the cake as far as phera logs go. You have been very thorough and your results have been amazing!
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Thanks a lot, I appreciate it :)
 
Cycle looks good; im interested in seeing the PCT results, as far as keeping us updated even 1-2 full months after you've done with this log...

Also, interested in seeing if the 4th week gives any major pluses vs 3 weeks.
 
AM07 said:
Are you going to get bloodwork done after the cycle or post cycle therapy?
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I'll look into it...Getting it could be a bit complicated though...

hardknock said:
Cycle looks good; im interested in seeing the post cycle therapy results, as far as keeping us updated even 1-2 full months after you've done with this log...

Also, interested in seeing if the 4th week gives any major pluses vs 3 weeks.
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Thanks, can't wait to see how much gains I will keep! I'll keep ya all updated :D

O/T: My stomach is really ****ed up at the moment, I seems to have some problems digesting ...(Liver damage?)
 
TRX250R said:
Thanks you...I don't have time to read the whole thread right now (will do later though), but basically, you suggests running nolva @ 40/40/20/20 and atd @ 25/50/50/75 ?
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Oh ya, read it... good learning in that one. :study:

You are definately one of those guys that will be successful in your cycles. Your ATD plan is pretty good :thumbsup:

I read an article that talked about DELAYED gyno that occurs even after a solid pct. What happens is that after stopping your AI, estrogen rebounds and gyno occurs. So to combat this possibility, you taper your AI after ramping as you have planned.

Inhibit-e has 90 caps so you could run it something like this: 1/2/3/3/2/1 for 6 weeks to prevent the estrogen rebound. IF libido takes a hit (which it very well could with the ATD), just back off your dosage slightly. Libido usually returns quickly when the ATD is finished (ATD is fantastic at preventing gyno, and a TEMPORARY loss of libido is a small price to pay)

Just for your information, BAM did NOTHING for my libido. In fact, it dropped slightly while on it.
 
celc5 said:
Oh ya, read it... good learning in that one. :study:

You are definately one of those guys that will be successful in your cycles. Your ATD plan is pretty good :thumbsup:

I read an article that talked about DELAYED gyno that occurs even after a solid post cycle therapy. What happens is that after stopping your AI, estrogen rebounds and gyno occurs. So to combat this possibility, you taper your AI after ramping as you have planned.

Inhibit-e has 90 caps so you could run it something like this: 1/2/3/3/2/1 for 6 weeks to prevent the estrogen rebound. IF libido takes a hit (which it very well could with the ATD), just back off your dosage slightly. Libido usually returns quickly when the ATD is finished (ATD is fantastic at preventing gyno, and a TEMPORARY loss of libido is a small price to pay)

Just for your information, BAM did NOTHING for my libido. In fact, it dropped slightly while on it.
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Thanks a lot man, I'm doing my best to have a successful cycle!

Seems like a solid ATD plan, I'll follows it (Received my ATD this morning). I'll start PCT at the end of the week for sure. I'm mad lethargic at the moment...

I'll keep ya informed on the libido !
 
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Tuesday 17/07/2007 Legs REP RANGE WEEK...Cycle Day 23[/size]​


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My muscles are still strong as hell but my joints are seriously not following anymore at all. I had a really bad night of sleep yesterday because of my awesome chest workout since I though my shoulders would explode :eek:... The lethargy is also pretty bad at the moment, seems I'm always tired. Every good thing has an end, and I will end it at the end of the week.

Didn't do squat since I forgot my shorts and I knew my knees wouldn't follow anyway.

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Legs Presses

730x3 <--- Not really struggling, just mad knees pain :(
510x20
600x4 <--- Lost Focus + Knees pain

Legs Extensions

135x10
195x6

Stiff Legged Deadlift

315x7
315x2 <--- Lost focus + Back Pain :(

Lying Leg Curls

90x13
100x10
100x8


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Weight: 190.5
 
dude those leg presses 730x3 is sick and heavy ass weight dude
SLDL 315 thats crazy at ur weight almost shocking
 
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Wednesday 18/07/2007 Off... REP RANGE WEEK...Cycle Day 24[/size]​


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Off day...

I must add I'm getting mad acne in my face at the moment (really noticeable) and that the lethargy is kinda sick...I'm also REALLY irritable/agressive.

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Weight: 193.5

Highest I've attained since the beginning, a increase of 19 pounds :eek:
 
nycste said:
dude those leg presses 730x3 is sick and heavy ass weight dude
SLDL 315 thats crazy at ur weight almost shocking
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Thanks you sir...Form isn't perfect @ 315 though (Not that my back is round, just that my legs aren't as 100% straight as with 225 pounds)
 
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Thursday 19/07/2007 Back REP RANGE WEEK...Cycle Day 25[/size]​


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Mad workout again! Mad increase in strenght on every lift while keeping good form :)...Also re-maxed on deadlift: 505 pounds...With much more ease than at 500 two weeks ago.

Tomorrow will be the last day of the cycle. My joints aren't following anymore and I'll be short on support supplements excepting milk thistle and hawthorn berries so I won't push it for another week (I have my atd on hand anyway now)

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DEADLIFT MAXING

135x10
225x10
315x6
405x1
505x1 <--- NEW PERSONAL RECORD :D

Reverse Barbell Rows

185x9
185x7
185x6.5
185x4

One-Arm Dumbell Row

95x12
95x10
95x10

Behind The Head Lats Pulldowns

175x10
175x12
175x10

Machine Shrugs

270x15
360x5
270x14
270x11


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Weight: 190.0
 
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