TRT, how much $?

BigBlackGuy

BigBlackGuy

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Just wondering how much it costs for you guys for TRT and what your dosage is... I don't know if this is against the board rules or frowned upon, I'm just curious. I'm just looking at our products and trying to see what the cost, about, would be compared to going through a doc.

The Androlean for the 6 is 56$ per bottle (each bottle=about 100mg of test+7-keto per week). So 56/4 = 14$ per week for 100mg test...

For Andromass it would be somewhere around 140 per bottle for 6, 428mg test per week for the recommended, each weekly dose can be spread out and used for a month (107mg of test bioequivalence). So, what, is that 4 months of 100 mg test/week for 120 bucks? What is that 7.50 per week for 100mg of test?

Disclaimer: This all theory, need to see logs first to make sure the bioequivalence hold true. I have faith they will, but I don't expect most people to have the same faith, hence this disclaimer.

I'm doing this for personal use, I'm just wondering if you guys are following that lump of text, lol. You guys are much more experienced and know much more about TRT than I do, and I'm just wondering if there prices seem outrageous, or if 100mg of test per week is too low a shot.
 
well bioequivalence and replacing test are certainly 2 different things. as for the trt question. well if i were to go thru my dr which i will be very soon a bottle of t-cyp is gonna cost me 2 dollars for 10 weeks worth. others ins may be higher, whatever their copay is. now for clinics thats a totally different story. as far as i know not all cost the same but pretty much in the ballpark of 100 bucks for t-cyp 200mg/ml 10ml. again im sure all are a bit different but thats prolly a pretty close est. anyway thats what i pay. i know double ugl but when i stick i never feel it again. worth the coin.
 
I'm on a bioequivalent cream at 200 mgs/mL. Dose is 1 mL twice a day. After insurance, I pay $34.68 per month.
 
I'm prescribed 150mg/wk which comes on individual 1ml vials. 13 vials for 3 months costs me $25 with insurance, would be 70ish without.
 
10ml test cyp. Bottle is about $14 with insurance. 30 days of Testim/Androgel is $60-75. Which, BTW, is FN ridiculous when you can go the injection route. As my doctor explained test is test; you're only altering delivery systems. As soon as my Testim is gone, it's BACK to injections regardless of the ups and downs !!
 
Presa said:
10ml test cyp. Bottle is about $14 with insurance. 30 days of Testim/Androgel is $60-75. Which, BTW, is FN ridiculous when you can go the injection route. As my doctor explained test is test; you're only altering delivery systems. As soon as my Testim is gone, it's BACK to injections regardless of the ups and downs !!
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coscos 79 bucks for 10 cc bottle
hcg if needed 9 bucks a month
adex 2 bucks a pill.
needles 29 for 100

You do the math :)
 
The Matrix said:
coscos 79 bucks for 10 cc bottle
hcg if needed 9 bucks a month
adex 2 bucks a pill.
needles 29 for 100

You do the math :)
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I'm a criminal justice major which means I cant do math LOL! Anyway, I put a calculator to my TRT, and I spend $67 a month for Testim, and $9.90 if I do test cyp. injections.

However, a cost that cant be measured is the royal pain in the a$$ putting the gel on everyday becomes; especially in the summertime. I might be able to tolerate the Testim a little more if they would remove the perfume smell from it ,and reduce the cost 50%.
 
Presa said:
I'm a criminal justice major which means I cant do math LOL! Anyway, I put a calculator to my TRT, and I spend $67 a month for Testim, and $9.90 if I do test cyp. injections.

However, a cost that cant be measured is the royal pain in the a$$ putting the gel on everyday becomes; especially in the summertime. I might be able to tolerate the Testim a little more if they would remove the perfume smell from it ,and reduce the cost 50%.
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Any reason you use the testim instead of injections? Looks like injections are simply the cheapest way with insurance.
 
any of the transdermals provide a more natural release pattern. its daily application in the morning, which is when natural testosterone would also be highest, then slowly drops during the day, as does natural testosterone
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Any reason you use the testim instead of injections? Looks like injections are simply the cheapest way with insurance.
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Basically like easjl said. I seem to not have the "mental" highs and lows because the dose is constant. However, when I go back to IM, I'm gonna try every three days instead of five, and see if that makes a difference. Cost and ease of use no question; IM is the way to go.
 
EasyEJL said:
any of the transdermals provide a more natural release pattern. its daily application in the morning, which is when natural testosterone would also be highest, then slowly drops during the day, as does natural testosterone
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That's the premise behind our dosing scheme and the half-life of the androseries.

Do you guys think the conversion to higher levels of DHT is beneficial? I feel like it would be but can't say for sure.

It's also much more expensive to use the transdermal compared to the injectable, even given the advantages.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
That's the premise behind our dosing scheme and the half-life of the androseries.

Do you guys think the conversion to higher levels of DHT is beneficial? I feel like it would be but can't say for sure.

It's also much more expensive to use the transdermal compared to the injectable, even given the advantages.
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me personally im very sensitive to high levels of dht another reason i perolly wouldnt go the gel/cream route
 
BigBlackGuy said:
That's the premise behind our dosing scheme and the half-life of the androseries.

Do you guys think the conversion to higher levels of DHT is beneficial? I feel like it would be but can't say for sure.

It's also much more expensive to use the transdermal compared to the injectable, even given the advantages.
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DHT is the hormone that makes us male more so then testosterone.
Its not about more but the proper balance of all hormones is the secret and knowing how to achieve it. :nana:

DHT serums can go up to 150 with out BPH provided that e2 is in check you are good..
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Do you guys think the conversion to higher levels of DHT is beneficial? I feel like it would be but can't say for sure.
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well, there have been a few studies done using DHT solo as hormone replacement for andropause. Heck, there have even been a couple recent ones using trenbolone as hormone replacement. Its definitely hard to say as there still is plenty we don't know about what the real total effects of some of the hormones are.
 
The Matrix said:
DHT is the hormone that makes us male more so then testosterone.
Its not about more but the proper balance of all hormones is the secret and knowing how to achieve it. :nana:

DHT serums can go up to 150 with out BPH provided that e2 is in check you are good..
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Secret eh? hmm...

I feel like most guys in our age don't have proper hormone levels for several reasons... I'm sure being able to have them operate optimally would change so many lives around. I think TRT/HRT is an amazing thing for guys who are older or who simply can't bring their hormones to a decent level.

That said, I'd hope that one day there is a better way to go about informing people about why their hormones may be what is causing issues in their lives. I would also hope TRT/HRT wouldn't be so (seemingly) difficult to obtain. I wonder how many guys see they should pin for TRT and simply don't do it. The patches seem very expensive as well, which would also be a deterring force.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Secret eh? hmm...

I feel like most guys in our age don't have proper hormone levels for several reasons... I'm sure being able to have them operate optimally would change so many lives around. I think TRT/HRT is an amazing thing for guys who are older or who simply can't bring their hormones to a decent level.

That said, I'd hope that one day there is a better way to go about informing people about why their hormones may be what is causing issues in their lives. I would also hope TRT/HRT wouldn't be so (seemingly) difficult to obtain. I wonder how many guys see they should pin for TRT and simply don't do it. The patches seem very expensive as well, which would also be a deterring force.
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Most people that I deal with in the mid 30 to low 40 ranges are actually alot of exbouncers, DJ's and just guys that lived in clubs from ages of 18 to 30's. Back in the day we where hanging out in clubs that had poor ventilation, living in second hand smoke from thursday to sunday night. I feel that has a huge impact on alot of the cases I am dealing with. Now having smoke free clubs is a great thing. People are being constantly bombarded with EMF from cell phones, computer satellites, ect which can cause or cells to actually spin in opposite energetic direction resulting in damaging mitochondrion. I am all about educating younger guys through proper lifestyle, choices and stress management, nutritonal balance, finding imbalances inorder for them to prevent going on TRT from idiot drs that are too lazy to spend the time to look for reasons why there levels are low
 
I am very sensitive to EMF, we have had to turn off our wifi at home and go back to a land line, this got rid of my headaches at home and ringing in my ears. I think this is causing ALOT more probs. for people than we realize, but how do we not expose ourselves to this, its everywhere in todays world.
 
RipdnTxs said:
I am very sensitive to EMF, we have had to turn off our wifi at home and go back to a land line, this got rid of my headaches at home and ringing in my ears. I think this is causing ALOT more probs. for people than we realize, but how do we not expose ourselves to this, its everywhere in todays world.
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This can be counteracted very easily..
 
EasyEJL said:
something like this?

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HAHA no
Actually the point of exposure where the most damage is done is not in the brain, but rather the thymus :lmao:
 
Presa said:
10ml test cyp. Bottle is about $14 with insurance. 30 days of Testim/Androgel is $60-75. Which, BTW, is FN ridiculous when you can go the injection route. As my doctor explained test is test; you're only altering delivery systems. As soon as my Testim is gone, it's BACK to injections regardless of the ups and downs !!
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That depends on who your insurance carrier is. My insurance (one of the most well known companies that exist) will only cover 50% for Testim/Androgel, which means it costs me $256 a month. Test cyp is only $10 for 3 months worth, but if Testim/Androgel work for you, they are better than injections in my opinion due to the TD's ability to also increase DHT. Many males find that even with normal or higher levels of testosterone from injections, they still can't function sexually. This MAY be caused by low DHT levels.
100mg of test a week is more than enough for the average male. More is not necessarily better when it comes to test because of the increased risk of converting to estrogens.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Do you guys think the conversion to higher levels of DHT is beneficial? I feel like it would be but can't say for sure.
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I do. DHT is essential for normal sexual function. It is more anabolic than testosterone and it interacts with the central nervous system to provide the link between nerve and muscle connection.
 
Good info in this thread. I was curious about the price of TRT myself and stumbled upon this one. I'm making one final plea to my dr this week to put me on TRT before I seek a 2nd opinion and look for someone who WILL treat me.

injections look like by far the cheapest route to go, also depending on how big of a nuisance you find a gel, for instance the transfer to other people, not being able to shower/swim/sweat for 2-6 hours after application etc.. also the most convenient and unaltering lifestyle wise.

How big of an issue are the dropoffs that come with injections instead of transdermal? I always read people find they don't experience low T level symptoms at random not so great times when on the transdermal, but they do on the shots. Is this a bit overexaggerated and not that big of a deal or is it really a big concern?
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
How big of an issue are the dropoffs that come with injections instead of transdermal? I always read people find they don't experience low T level symptoms at random not so great times when on the transdermal, but they do on the shots. Is this a bit overexaggerated and not that big of a deal or is it really a big concern?
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It was a bigger concern in the earlier days of HRT when injections were given once every two weeks. Since then, everyone (doctors and patients) have learned that frequent injections resolve that problem. Once a week is the minimum, but with twice a week injections many patients don't even need estrogen control.
 
DragonRider said:
It was a bigger concern in the earlier days of HRT when injections were given once every two weeks. Since then, everyone (doctors and patients) have learned that frequent injections resolve that problem. Once a week is the minimum, but with twice a week injections many patients don't even need estrogen control.
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thanks as always for the info dragonrider, that's nice to know. The more and more I keep doing research on injectable TRT the better it sounds. I mean if doing a 3 or more injection a week protocol, you can use 29g slin pins correct? And it doesn't even have to be intra muscular, just sub-q? I bet you barely feel a thing....
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
thanks as always for the info dragonrider, that's nice to know. The more and more I keep doing research on injectable TRT the better it sounds. I mean if doing a 3 or more injection a week protocol, you can use 29g slin pins correct? And it doesn't even have to be intra muscular, just sub-q? I bet you barely feel a thing....
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The question is hrt really needed in the first place?
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
I wasn't asking if it was. I just don't think it ever hurts to do as much reading and research on something that might be in your future as possible.
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It depends on where you get your information at. I am a free thinker. When trends start on forum I will be the guinea pig to try them on myself before drs patients. I have several thousands clinical hours in hrt and other complex metabolic issues under one of the best drs. I also have advantage of being through just about everything guys have gone through and then some. I was in full hpta shutdown for 2 years and almost died. 7 years later I now working with drs to help other people get well through my experiences.
 
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