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TripDogs official Boldenone / 1,4-ad thread

i actually just finished capping all of it... and will take it with 2000mg fish oils.... i posted it in the other thread but for reference sake this powder is denser then that wich B5150 has and a "1" cap packed holds ~275mg... so im guessin that an "0" cap will hold +500mg.
 
poopypants said:
i actually just finished capping all of it... and will take it with 2000mg fish oils.... i posted it in the other thread but for reference sake this powder is denser then that wich B5150 has and a "1" cap packed holds ~275mg... so im guessin that an "0" cap will hold +500mg.
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hopefully other peopel can confirm or argue this so us unexperienced cappers can know <---
 
poopypants said:
i actually just finished capping all of it... and will take it with 2000mg fish oils.... i posted it in the other thread but for reference sake this powder is denser then that wich B5150 has and a "1" cap packed holds ~275mg... so im guessin that an "0" cap will hold +500mg.
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You probably tampered it.
 
Just to be clear, I'm not supporting IForce. Everyone knows 200mg pills are tiny and overpriced for 1,4AD(let alone 100mg) and bold is generally meant to be stacked with something else.

I'm just thinking that starting out at 1.5g/day might not be necessary for someone that's never pinned before and hasn't already ran 4-5 methyl cycles this year.
 
poopypants said:
.... he said he did the same.... but i didnt even fill again on top of my tamper.. i just tampered it to make sure it wouldnt spill out while putting on the tops.
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Tampering can add a little bit of variability, though. It's like eating dinner at a buffet: there's ALWAYS ROOM to make it to the desert aisle. Depending on what kinda goodies they got depends on how willing you'll be to force more down.
 
thesinner said:
Tampering can add a little bit of variability, though. It's like eating dinner at a buffet: there's ALWAYS ROOM to make it to the desert aisle. Depending on what kinda goodies they got depends on how willing you'll be to force more down.
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ya but i coulda sworn that B5150 said he "packed" it in to make 200mg.... i just barely tampered mine and then didnt fill again on top so it wasnt like i shoved an extra 1/3 a cap down into it more then he did.... i think this powder is just likely to be more dense...
 
poopypants said:
ya but i coulda sworn that B5150 said he "packed" it in to make 200mg.... i just barely tampered mine and then didnt fill again on top so it wasnt like i shoved an extra 1/3 a cap down into it more then he did.... i think this powder is just likely to be more dense...
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Is he using 1,4AD from a different supplier? Bulk density of solids can vary immensely depending on mesh size (how small the granules are).
 
anyone have a picture of powder in olive oil?

i just dont understand how you get an even amount everywhere spreadout correctly?
 
nycste said:
anyone have a picture of powder in olive oil?

i just dont understand how you get an even amount everywhere spreadout correctly?
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Go to the grocery store, hit up the salad dressing aisle, and check out the bottles of Italian Salad Dressing.

You'll notice all the vinegar and seasonings are chilling out at the bottom of the bottle. Now shake it up really good. You'll see everything is floating around fairly evenly. Same idea.

Are you going to get exactly 333mg/mL every single time you use it? No. But the %error is not going to be something where it'll totally screw you over. On average, you will get about 1g per day. In all honesty, when you're taking most of your PH's in capsule form, they do pretty much the same idea with microcrystalline cellulose or other fillers instead of olive oil.
 
nycste said:
anyone have a picture of powder in olive oil?

i just dont understand how you get an even amount everywhere spreadout correctly?
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It works well enough at 10-25mg/ml from my experience. Once you start getting >50mg/ml it is going to start getting pretty thick. Do not expect to have an easy time getting anything >100mg/ml it will be too pasty.
 
jonny21 said:
It works well enough at 10-25mg/ml from my experience. Once you start getting >50mg/ml it is going to start getting pretty thick. Do not expect to have an easy time getting anything >100mg/ml it will be too pasty.
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thesinner said:
Go to the grocery store, hit up the salad dressing aisle, and check out the bottles of Italian Salad Dressing.

You'll notice all the vinegar and seasonings are chilling out at the bottom of the bottle. Now shake it up really good. You'll see everything is floating around fairly evenly. Same idea.

Are you going to get exactly 333mg/mL every single time you use it? No. But the %error is not going to be something where it'll totally screw you over. On average, you will get about 1g per day. In all honesty, when you're taking most of your PH's in capsule form, they do pretty much the same idea with microcrystalline cellulose or other fillers instead of olive oil.
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thanks guys. yea i mean i understand how its supposed to work its just rather interesting.
 
thesinner said:
Is he using 1,4AD from a different supplier? Bulk density of solids can vary immensely depending on mesh size (how small the granules are).
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ya thats what i was sayin... hes had bulk for a while during this whole thing from whatever he had in his stash.... so im pretty sure that hes got a finer powder that allows for more space between granules... this one is slightly mroe grainy then i even expected.
 
dude, why the fcuk hasnt anyone weighed this? I mean nobody has a mg scale? Just weigh a tsp and post how many mg it is.

btw....tom, awesome cycle you got planned.
 
The "0" capsule is 0.68 mL

"0" hold 400mg packed.

400mg/.68ml = 588mg/ml

.25 tsp = 1.25ml

588mg x 1.25 = 735mg/tsp

Keep in mind that the 400mg into "0" capsules is packed very tightly. As well, the volume measurement of .68ml in that capsule is a precise volume measurement. A tsp is not packed.

I got these numbers just doing some math. If I feel up to it or get the time I'll open up some of my caps and see what I get. Don't hold your breath :)


I was right.

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These are my previous experiences with a size "1" capsule:
25mg OT/179.2mg Micronized Creatine (204.2mg total)
10mg M1T/186.2mg Micronized Creatine (196.2mg total)
25mg Anavar/175mg Micronized Creatine (200mg total)
25mg Proviron/168mg Micronized Creatine (193mg total)

These were all done without tamping. So there is no problem fitting 200mg into a "1" capsule so there should be no problem fitting >200mg into a "0" capsule.
 
B5150 said:
The "0" capsule is 0.68 mL

"0" hold 400mg packed.

400mg/.68ml = 588mg/ml

.25 tsp = 1.25ml

588mg x 1.25 = 735mg/tsp

Keep in mind that the 400mg into "0" capsules is packed very tightly. As well, the volume measurement of .68ml in that capsule is a precise volume measurement. A tsp is not packed.

I got these numbers just doing some math. If I feel up to it or get the time I'll open up some of my caps and see what I get. Don't hold your breath :)


I was right.

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you mean 735mg/ 1/4 tsp. right? it does say right on the order page 700mg per 1/4 tsp. so that is damn close man. great job with those calculations.
I weighed mine at a buddy's house today, and it came out between 710-730mg/ 1/4 tsp everytime.
:cheers:
 
B5150 said:
The "0" capsule is 0.68 mL

"0" hold 400mg packed.

400mg/.68ml = 588mg/ml

.25 tsp = 1.25ml

588mg x 1.25 = 735mg/tsp

Keep in mind that the 400mg into "0" capsules is packed very tightly. As well, the volume measurement of .68ml in that capsule is a precise volume measurement. A tsp is not packed.

I got these numbers just doing some math. If I feel up to it or get the time I'll open up some of my caps and see what I get. Don't hold your breath :)


I was right.

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How many mgs would you figure for the 00 ??
 
It looks like the average of a very welled packed volume of 1,4 is about 600mg/ml.

It looks like ~575mg in the '00' caps.

'1' caps ~300mg - .50ml
'0' caps ~400mg - .68ml
'00' caps ~575mg - .95ml

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anyone going to try just mixing it in a drink instead of capping? if you think thatll waste it, what about dropping the powder in your mouth and then just chasing it...
 
Tom 185 said:
anyone going to try just mixing it in a drink instead of capping? if you think thatll waste it, what about dropping the powder in your mouth and then just chasing it...
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i dont see why not but youll want some fats when you take it.. i will take every dose of mine with 2g fishoils and a meal.

also there is the taste... i just licked my fingers after capping and its NOT tastey...:blink:
 
Tom 185 said:
anyone going to try just mixing it in a drink instead of capping? if you think thatll waste it, what about dropping the powder in your mouth and then just chasing it...
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best bet would be use a small shot glass. so you can lick sides so you dont lose any. and put some kinda drink in it like grapefruit juice or something
 
why not ust measure out what you want in a half a shot glass with EVOO and then eat a meal?

edit: frickin NY jackin my thoughts :nutkick:
 
do u guys think that the 300z scale from nutra w/ the .1 gram accuracy is going to be accurate enough for dosing purposes, or would it be better to get one with .01 accuracy?
 
I'd obviously recommend accuracy to 0.01g. Accurate to the nearest 0.1g could lead to under/overdosing to the nearest 100mg.


Personally, I don't think this would be all that noticeable, but I'm wary to go about making such a recommendation with a product I've never used before.


+/- 50mg after conversions would equate to +/- 3.4mg of actively converted boldenone, based on the absoprtion/conversion factors found in this thread (45% absorption & 15% conversion).
 
B5150 said:
It looks like the average of a very welled packed volume of 1,4 is about 600mg/ml.

It looks like ~575mg in the '00' caps.

'1' caps ~300mg - .50ml
'0' caps ~400mg - .68ml
'00' caps ~575mg - .95ml

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Any ideas for an ~ of unpacked volume? Would it be ok to cap without packing?
 
Big BAMA said:
Just got my second 30g's. Nutraplanet is the BOMB! I love you guys. Capped the first 30g last night. Got 59 "OO" ready to go baby. Capping this tonite. Now I just gotta wait till Nov 1st to start my next cycle.
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according to my math

each 00 held about 508mg powder. correct?


these were my guesses based on what info i had available beforehand. this might be packed powder
1-200-300ish (5-14 daily on avg)
0-350-400ish (3-6 daily on avg)
00-600ish (1-3 avg on daily)



Standard Dose on Bag
1-300-600
0-408-816
00-546-1092
000-822-1644

and according to humm forget his name right now a board sponser
It looks like ~575mg in the '00' caps.

'1' caps ~300mg - .50ml
'0' caps ~400mg - .68ml
'00' caps ~575mg - .95ml
 
poopypants said:
i actually fit 275mg into my "1" caps guys.... 30g gave me 110caps
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B5150 said:
The "0" capsule is 0.68 mL

"0" hold 400mg packed.

400mg/.68ml = 588mg/ml

.25 tsp = 1.25ml

588mg x 1.25 = 735mg/tsp

Keep in mind that the 400mg into "0" capsules is packed very tightly. As well, the volume measurement of .68ml in that capsule is a precise volume measurement. A tsp is not packed.

I got these numbers just doing some math. If I feel up to it or get the time I'll open up some of my caps and see what I get. Don't hold your breath :)


I was right.

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just bumping these...

from all this info if.

if poopy got
275mg avg into 1 size.
then it would make sense 0 holds 330-350 without packing.
from another memeber saying 00 holds 508 (not sure if packed to max)
 
neoborn said:
Can you give more of an explanation, I still don't understand why this is important if you have a good scale?:blink:
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ifyou have a really good scale and capping something other then 1,4ad powder then 1mg makes a big difference sometimes.

im totally making this up but it seems like a good point. the capsule prob ways .5 mg or something no idea.
 
neoborn said:
Can you give more of an explanation, I still don't understand why this is important if you have a good scale?:blink:
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cause individually measuring out and capping every little cap one at a time would take forever and be very tedious... NOW if you find out your dose and how much it fills the cap then go ahead and fill it the rest of the wa with the correct volume of filler.... now dump out the filler and contents of caps onto your scale. now what ever the difference is between your 1,4AD weight and total weight is the weight of your filler... now multiply the weight of your filler times 50 and youll have how much weight is necessary to be mixed with you mg per cap (x50) so if you know algebra then this is how it could look if you want 200mg per cap....

X=filler per cap
Y=total cap volume filled

200mg+X= Y
then
X(50)+200(50)= Y(50)


so just mix up the 10g (200mgx50) with the X(50) amount in an empty container and that way you can easily just fill to the right mg per cap by knowing that all the caps are filled. 50 caps in about 10 min is wa the hell better then say 5 caps in 10 min.

this is all done assuming you have a cap m quick tray to fill 50 caps at once.
 
neoborn said:
Can you give more of an explanation, I still don't understand why this is important if you have a good scale?:blink:
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You dilute the active in the filler (filler should be of similar mesh size to the active).

You mix it around to make the distribution of active as homogeneous as possible. (I usually shake it up really rapidly)

Divide the mass of actives by the total mass (actives + filler). This will give you the %active.

Multiply the %active by the weight in each capsule.

This will give you how much active you have placed in each capsule.
 
hey guys I know you're talking about capping, but anyone have any input on how boldenone makes you feel? comparison to mood on other designers? (lethargy, depression, anxiousness, paranoia, agression, general mood/disposition)
 
like............wait............whats the deal with nutra not selling anymore 1,4ad.......i've been mia the past few days and missed the scoop.................someone scoop me!!!:stick:
 
ya they were advised by their legal counsel to no longer sell it in bulk powder... my guess is first worried bout getting sued by another company and second the questionable legality of the compound in general....even though its found in cow poop its only in the poop of cows that get hormonally treated....... poop
 
:mad: well thats just fukcin gay now isn't it!!!!...dam homo law maker fukcers.........:mad: :aargh:
 
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