bluestaffy09
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Can anyone recommend a quality trib supplement? Used years ago and really worked for libido purposes so fancy giving it another go.
Tribulus
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john.patterson
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If you just want a standalone trib product I would check out Jarrow tribulus complex - quality brand with some added adaptogens for a good price. I'm not sure when you used tribulus last, but there are a few other newer ingredients and products available that can help increase libido beyond what tribulus can do.
Ingredients such as long jack and stinging nettle can both be very beneficial for libido. If you're open to suggestions aside from trib, I would recommend checking out Alphamax XT which is a natural test booster that includes a natural AI to help with estrogen and cortisol levels. The feedback from Alphamax XT has been great, especially for those looking to increase libido.
Ingredients such as long jack and stinging nettle can both be very beneficial for libido. If you're open to suggestions aside from trib, I would recommend checking out Alphamax XT which is a natural test booster that includes a natural AI to help with estrogen and cortisol levels. The feedback from Alphamax XT has been great, especially for those looking to increase libido.
bluestaffy09
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Cheers john ill check them out.
john.patterson
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Let me know if you have any questions. Also, Nutriverse is currently running a 20% off sale on Alphamax XT. You can use AM5 for an additional 5% off as well.
LeanEngineer
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I'd second on the advice for running alphamax xt. You will get way better results running it over only a tribulus supp.
Mixelflick
Active member
High quality trib standardized for furostanolic saponins is what you're looking for. Not just protodioscin but tribulosides A and B, protogracillin etc.. The original trib product is still one of the best: Tribestan.
Vermo herbs is a Bulgarian company with a long history of producing top notch trib. Look for a product from Bulgaria (not China or India), as the composition of such is different. Since most people don't have an HPLC/HPCS at their disposal, there's what I call the "pinch" test. Lick your finger and take some powder out of the capsule, rolling it between your fingers. The good stuff is extremely sticky, as it's hygroscopic and picks up moisture easily Those are live saponins and a good indicator the product is quality.
Conversely, if you blow on it and it scatters like sawdust, that' usually the sign of an inferior product.
While it doesn't boost testosterone to any meaningful degree, it has been shown to boost IGF-1 20% and help people build muscle and lose fat. It's also an excellent nitric oxide generator, which explains how it helps with erections. Interestingly, some of the better studies are on how it benefits heart health. Think about it: If it's dialating blood vessels below the belt, it's going on elsewhere too..
Vermo herbs is a Bulgarian company with a long history of producing top notch trib. Look for a product from Bulgaria (not China or India), as the composition of such is different. Since most people don't have an HPLC/HPCS at their disposal, there's what I call the "pinch" test. Lick your finger and take some powder out of the capsule, rolling it between your fingers. The good stuff is extremely sticky, as it's hygroscopic and picks up moisture easily Those are live saponins and a good indicator the product is quality.
Conversely, if you blow on it and it scatters like sawdust, that' usually the sign of an inferior product.
While it doesn't boost testosterone to any meaningful degree, it has been shown to boost IGF-1 20% and help people build muscle and lose fat. It's also an excellent nitric oxide generator, which explains how it helps with erections. Interestingly, some of the better studies are on how it benefits heart health. Think about it: If it's dialating blood vessels below the belt, it's going on elsewhere too..
bluestaffy09
Member
Cheers guys. Im not looking for any muscle gains or anything just purely a boost in libido desire. Im using m-test but not getting much of a boost in that department.
Danes
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Lab test from Medical University of Sofia show 3 of Companies had 60% or more of Protodioscin:
1.Vemoherb Bulgarian Tribulus (60,80%)
From Bulgaria
2.Corpus Medica Tribumen (61,5%)
From Lithuania
3.Sopharma Tribestan (62,4%)
From Bulgaria
I would definitely run one of those.
Other tribulus products are not protodioscin enriched at all. Many of them have just trace of Protodioscin and not to mention protogracillin.
TSMilliner
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Barlowes Herbal has a pretty good Tribulus Supplement as well as a host of other libido boosters.
Just my 2 cents, but if you felt nothing off of M-Test may want to get some bloodwork done as that should have had some benefit IMO
Just my 2 cents, but if you felt nothing off of M-Test may want to get some bloodwork done as that should have had some benefit IMO
bluestaffy09
Member
At the start mtest was really good but seems to have lost its effect but did see a guy who said the same thing. Maybe its just in my head or maybe its finisteride lol.
jt75
Well-known member
How long after m-test started losing it's effects?
bluestaffy09
Member
Bout 4 and half weeks.
booneman77
Legend
SNS has bulk tribulus caps (Tribulus-750) - 120 or 240ct
CEL has a more comprehensive t-booster in M-Test that has gotten rave reviews
Some other ingredients that might also help in the libido dept that are cheap and easily obtainable from SNS: Bulbine, DAA
CEL has a more comprehensive t-booster in M-Test that has gotten rave reviews
Some other ingredients that might also help in the libido dept that are cheap and easily obtainable from SNS: Bulbine, DAA
K21
Member
Hi Danes is the talc in tribestan tablets of any concern due to possible risk of asbestos contamination from talc products?
vlsk10
Member
aps bulgarian tribilus from iherb is stronger per 1 capsule (in Protodioscin) than 3 tablets from tribestan and comes in capsule form. tribesterone from HTP is another one that comes in tablet form, it doesn't contain talc but it contains 2 popular food dyes that are banned in europe. I would either get the one from hi-tech pharmacuticals but if I had to choose - APS. It's cheaper and 1 capsule equals to 3 of tribestan/tribesterone. And iherb has a sale going on for a few days more (29% on everything).
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THEstudent
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You just wonder what kind of testing has been done on the APS product. They are owned by Hi-Tech so the protodioscin content should be legit.
vlsk10
Member
True dat. I didn't know they were owned by them at all but HTP promotes it on their own website. I got it from iherb due to cheaper price + 30% off and iherb doesn't even have their tribesterone (it's unavaiable for EU buyers at least).
I take 1 capsule from APS in the am and 1 from tribestan in the evening for now. The taste if pretty awful if you have ever chewed the tablet. it tastes kinda like korean ginseng or licorice root
vlsk10
Member
I think because SNS aviability is generally lower in Europe (I'm excluding UK -brexit you know). Some resellers exist like bodyshock, but the price is very ramped up against other brands and the mg per capsule of only the tribilus is generelly lower. If you're in the US/UK, maybe better price. But me - I buy what I can get for the best price -bulgarian style. And I don't buy brands with low protodicin (like now foods, swanson's, nutricost. biotech usa. These claim 40/90% saponis fruit extract and are super cheap, bottles under 10$- but it's not standardized to contain much protodioscin for athletic performance increase and libido and the source is usually india or china.
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BigGame84
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Understood about the availability of SNS in Europe.
Protodioscin can come from different ingredients (like Trib) so it may differ from person to person depending on the ingredient. But what's nice about Prototest is you know what you're getting (minimum of 50%).
poison
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Have you used good Bulgarian tribulus in the past? If so, how does this compare?
THEstudent
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Mx1x1
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Sad truth about buying SNS products in europe.. I feel like the few shops we have roll the dice on the prices they choose.
Just compare muscle-lab and bodyshock. Sometimes one offers a product for like 30€ more than the other
@OP
Never liked tribulus. I might have never gotten a quality product tho
I like other ingredients much better like fadogia, tongkat and boron
BCseacow83
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IME the APS product is no where near as good as the Tribesterone tablets. The APS worked about as well as all the other tribs I have used from reliable(aka they actually contained the product on the label, NOT the same as being highly effective, just you are getting what you pay for) suppliers, the 40-60% steroidal saponins variety.
I know the APS claims bulgarian and high proto but it DID NOT work the same for me as the tribesterone and the OG Tribestan.
BCseacow83
Well-known member
Really, really hard to say. I used Tribestan when I was much younger. I did respond better to the OG, but I was a decade younger and EVERYTHING worked better back then, even pharma drugs scripted from US pharmacies.
That being said, Tribesterone was close. I was getting Tribesterone at wholesale so the choice was easy, were I paying retail for both and they were close in price, say $5.00 give or take, I would pay that extra for Tribestan.
sns8778
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My biggest frustration with Body-Shock is that they stay out of stock more than they stay in stock - they'll place an order, sell out of things fairly quickly, but then may not place another order for 6 months. It makes me question whether they want to sell the products, or if they're just trying to get people to go to their site that are looking for them and try to sell them on something else.
If you, or anyone likes buying our products from Body-Shock, I would encourage you/them to please email them about getting them to keep things in stock.
vlsk10
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I think european customs is tightning up against imports from the trans altlentic area. It's not just bodyshock. A lot of other resellers have been running low on US made supplements... so it might be harder for them to restock. But I know they're registred in the UK to bypass certain import rules so they can restock their polish warehouse. Some brands they have all the time on promotion like hammer labz/smart brothers. While other brands have totally gone missing. The thing with bodyshock is most of what they sell is not even leagal in Europe so it could be just that. I mean, bodyshock even have problems with credit card payments (the UK or polish gouverment is on to them for selling things like dmaa within europe). And they still do it.
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sns8778
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We have UK/EU retailers order from us all the time.
Body Shock has always been this way - they'll order, get things in and sell out fast, but then we won't hear from them for months. I've mentioned it in the past when people have gotten upset with us for them not having things in stock and have clarified that we can't control if they don't place orders for things.
I can't and don't want to speak on the legalities of other things that they sell, but I would imagine that that is what causes the issues with their payment processors.
vlsk10
Member
Yeah I hear you brother. I wanted to order SNS yohimbine 2.5mg but it was out of stock -I swear I've only been able to get it from them twidce in a 24 months period. Finally found something with 5mg per capsule- every god damn yohimbe product everywhere else is like double or tripple yohimbine. Not interested in a heart attack. Anyways, I made the order yesterday. They didn't even ship it out today. That goes to show what kind of enthusiasm this shop has.
sns8778
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Yeah, they can be frustrating to deal with. I like the owner from the times I've talked to him and wish they would keep things in stock. But it is frustrating because a lot of times people will get mad at the brands like us, and its like - nope, not our fault, we're glad to sell them product, all they have to do is place an order.
Ironic that you mentioned Yohimbine bc I'm overstocked and I offered them a hell of a deal on it and didn't even get a reply to my email.
vlsk10
Member
Another good EU vendor I can recommend is supplements4muscle, maybe you will find better luck with them. But their product base line is very limited.
sns8778
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Thanks. I'm not familiar with them. I'll reach out to them.
We'd love to work with any that we can in order for it to be as convenient as possible for people that are interested to be able to use our products.
Top_Alpha
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Hi-Tech Tribesterone
AllMax Tribx90
Barlowes
Tribestan is perhaps the most potent but as mentioned expensive and difficult to get Stateside.
Biotest used to make a great Tribulus but they don't seem to be selling it anymore. I'm not sure if they have issues sourcing it.
Mixelflick
Active member
Do you really get anything from Barlowes Trib?
I've gotten zilch from every herbal of theirs I've tried. I could have capped up and swallowed wood chips, I probably would have gotten more out of it.
THEstudent
Member
Same here. On the surface it looks like their products are spot on. They show COAs and everything but every product I have tried I never got anything from them. Maybe I didn't use a high enough dosage. I don't know....