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Actually increasing both platelets and hematocrit (rbcs) does increase the risk of clot. Vwd and hemophilia are very different diseases. Ppl with hemophilia likely shouldn't be lifting weights at all, whereas it's fine with vwd.

Isn't the reason you bleed easier whilst on test to do with an increased ratio of RBC's to platelets in your blood though? You might internally clot because your blood is too thick/very concentrated, but that's different to clotting once you start bleeding.
 
Glad to hear that you liked ot!

For the price of 50mg/day of Trestobol you can run TR3ST at 100mg/day - and dosing 4 times/day is definitely enough. The half life of it is not THAT short!
 
what is the half life?
I'm not exactly sure, probably few hours.

But it is fat soluble compound so serum levels won't vary that much once you are therapeutic. That's why 25mg doses works just fine.
 
Isn't the reason you bleed easier whilst on test to do with an increased ratio of RBC's to platelets in your blood though? You might internally clot because your blood is too thick/very concentrated, but that's different to clotting once you start bleeding.

There are a number of reasons. The most important of them are probably related to t:e ratios affecting synthesis of clotting factors in the liver and aren't related to hematocrit.
 
I'm not exactly sure, probably few hours. But it is fat soluble compound so serum levels won't vary that much once you are therapeutic. That's why 25mg doses works just fine.
I'm about to pick up some from nutriverse. I'm running epi at 30 for 8 weeks, I'm only gonna run one bottle of tr3st, what should it be dosed at? And do you think forma will be good enough for an e blocker??
 
I'm about to pick up some from nutriverse. I'm running epi at 30 for 8 weeks, I'm only gonna run one bottle of tr3st, what should it be dosed at? And do you think forma will be good enough for an e blocker??
Week 3 is usually when lethargy and libido loss kicks in with other compounds so it could be a good time to throw in some TR3ST. I'd do it this way:
0/0/50/75/75/75/75/75

I think that transdermal formestane is enough. I know that it is enough for me at least - even when I'm on stuff like test, dbol, EQ and tren!
 
Week 3 is usually when lethargy and libido loss kicks in with other compounds so it could be a good time to throw in some TR3ST. I'd do it this way:
0/0/50/75/75/75/75/75

I think that transdermal formestane is enough. I know that it is enough for me at least - even when I'm on stuff like test, dbol, EQ and tren!

i would go with this too, looks good
 
Week 3 is usually when lethargy and libido loss kicks in with other compounds so it could be a good time to throw in some TR3ST. I'd do it this way:
0/0/50/75/75/75/75/75

I think that transdermal formestane is enough. I know that it is enough for me at least - even when I'm on stuff like test, dbol, EQ and tren!

Will the price shoot up after pre order is over?
 
Done. Sorry!

so i typically run 100mg of var, sometimes stacked with winny, before summer. you mentioned an epistane/msten combo in another thread. i dont know much about msten. last time i ran epi i got up to 80mg and it didnt act anything like winny, i put on some serious mass, it was almost like sd. do you think a lower dose with a moderate dose of msten might have some var/winny results. like 6 weeks epi:msten 45mg:10mg or maybe only 30mg of epi. ive been intrested in msten since ultradrol but never used it and dont really have a good reason to. but if i could get some really deep cuts out of it i would be willing to run it. id love to mix in some trest but i dont really see a point to it. im currently on 1g of test and 1.2g of eq. by the time i want to add teh epi/msten i would just be on 1g of test. so around june.
 
so i typically run 100mg of var, sometimes stacked with winny, before summer. you mentioned an epistane/msten combo in another thread. i dont know much about msten. last time i ran epi i got up to 80mg and it didnt act anything like winny, i put on some serious mass, it was almost like sd. do you think a lower dose with a moderate dose of msten might have some var/winny results. like 6 weeks epi:msten 45mg:10mg or maybe only 30mg of epi. ive been intrested in msten since ultradrol but never used it and dont really have a good reason to. but if i could get some really deep cuts out of it i would be willing to run it. id love to mix in some trest but i dont really see a point to it. im currently on 1g of test and 1.2g of eq. by the time i want to add teh epi/msten i would just be on 1g of test. so around june.

I agree with the point where high dose epi can have SD like effects, but the similarity to var is that it gets you dry and strength is pretty good on it, maybe try going for a deficit to have more of the shredding effect. Not sure about msten but i dont think it gives a var/winny like result only ran it once.
 
i generally cut at around 3000-3300 cals, i drop about 1.5lbs per week at that intake on var/winny. so if i would have to drop more cals id just run var/winny instead of being hungry .
 
so i typically run 100mg of var, sometimes stacked with winny, before summer. you mentioned an epistane/msten combo in another thread. i dont know much about msten. last time i ran epi i got up to 80mg and it didnt act anything like winny, i put on some serious mass, it was almost like sd. do you think a lower dose with a moderate dose of msten might have some var/winny results. like 6 weeks epi:msten 45mg:10mg or maybe only 30mg of epi. ive been intrested in msten since ultradrol but never used it and dont really have a good reason to. but if i could get some really deep cuts out of it i would be willing to run it. id love to mix in some trest but i dont really see a point to it. im currently on 1g of test and 1.2g of eq. by the time i want to add teh epi/msten i would just be on 1g of test. so around june.
Epi doesn't act anything like winny for me either. I hate winny - it only makes me drop some water and my joints hate it. Epi on the other hand is my all time favourite compound, I prefer it over dbol.

I've never used Var but I know several guys who have used it. I think that methystenbolone is closer to the Var than to Winny. It's very anabolic unlike Winny. For a big guy like you I'd recommend to go a bit higher with methylstenbolone... Maybe 10/15/20/20/20. I know that 20mg/day was a bit too much for my liking though but after all, I always use much lower doses than you.

Methylstenbolone is a very versatile product that suits pretty much every goal. I used it for recomping before powerlifting meet and for that goal I felt it is better than Epi. I dropped few pounds with it and my strength skyrocketed. I stacked it with test and EQ was probably still clearing out of my system.

I think the stack you mentioned will work well. You can always play around with the dose of methylstenbolone. Guys like to run it for anything between 4 and 6 weeks so you could run it this way: 10/15/15/15/15/15 or if you feel that 15mg is not enough, maybe something like this to find your sweet spot: 10/15/15/20/25.

I probably didn't answer to any of your questions, lol... But ask away if you have something else on your mind!

EDIT: I think Stenadrol might actually suit your goals even better. It has 5mg of msten and 4mg of dimethandrostenol per capsule. I never recommend it to beginners but you are an experienced user who can handle two methyls simultaneously.

Dimethandrostenol is an active ingredient in Iron Legion Mithras. Structurally speaking, it's like a "hybrid" of superdrol and phera and originally it was advertised as a great mass builder. Real life results tell that it's nothing like that. Users are reporting that it acts almost like halotestin. It seems to be very androgenic. It'll make you dry out, feel great and it's likely that you'll have great strength gains.
 
well, if you have legit var.. why look for another compound to replace it =/
I'm not looking to replace it I'm looking to play. I have the highest quality Raws u can get all of our products are tested and verified. Sometimes it's smart to see what's new to the market, because if it gets banned people are going to want it.
 
Epi doesn't act anything like winny for me either. I hate winny - it only makes me drop some water and my joints hate it. Epi on the other hand is my all time favourite compound, I prefer it over dbol. I've never used Var but I know several guys who have used it. I think that methystenbolone is closer to the Var than to Winny. It's very anabolic unlike Winny. For a big guy like you I'd recommend to go a bit higher with methylstenbolone... Maybe 10/15/20/20/20. I know that 20mg/day was a bit too much for my liking though but after all, I always use much lower doses than you. Methylstenbolone is a very versatile product that suits pretty much every goal. I used it for recomping before powerlifting meet and for that goal I felt it is better than Epi. I dropped few pounds with it and my strength skyrocketed. I stacked it with test and EQ was probably still clearing out of my system. I think the stack you mentioned will work well. You can always play around with the dose of methylstenbolone. Guys like to run it for anything between 4 and 6 weeks so you could run it this way: 10/15/15/15/15/15 or if you feel that 15mg is not enough, maybe something like this to find your sweet spot: 10/15/15/20/25. I probably didn't answer to any of your questions, lol... But ask away if you have something else on your mind! EDIT: I think Stenadrol might actually suit your goals even better. It has 5mg of msten and 4mg of dimethandrostenol per capsule. I never recommend it to beginners but you are an experienced user who can handle two methyls simultaneously. Dimethandrostenol is an active ingredient in Iron Legion Mithras. Structurally speaking, it's like a "hybrid" of superdrol and phera and originally it was advertised as a great mass builder. Real life results tell that it's nothing like that. Users are reporting that it acts almost like halotestin. It seems to be very androgenic. It'll make you dry out, feel great and it's likely that you'll have great strength gains.
interesting, I'm actually way ahead on my cut, sd with all this test has me way leaner than I normally am this time a year, so I have some wiggle room. What about appetite suppression?
 
interesting, I'm actually way ahead on my cut, sd with all this test has me way leaner than I normally am this time a year, so I have some wiggle room. What about appetite suppression?

I didn't experience any appetite suppression with it... From my experience it only happens if you dose orals too high or are taking really toxic sh*t like SD, A-bombs, M1T or M1A...
 
I didn't experience any appetite suppression with it... From my experience it only happens if you dose orals too high or are taking really toxic sh*t like SD, A-bombs, M1T or M1A...
cool, I'll check it out, so I guess the msten helps with developing mass and the other compound adds strength. I've run halotestin and dzine together and that was awesome. Lots of strength and a lot of mass. What would be the best dosage for this product? I don't normally ramp up, I like to keep the dose the same the whole time I use something but since I'm unfamiliar with ether of these I don't know. 20mg if msten would give me 16mg of the other, what are the normal effective doses of mithrus?
 
cool, I'll check it out, so I guess the msten helps with developing mass and the other compound adds strength. I've run halotestin and dzine together and that was awesome. Lots of strength and a lot of mass. What would be the best dosage for this product? I don't normally ramp up, I like to keep the dose the same the whole time I use something but since I'm unfamiliar with ether of these I don't know. 20mg if msten would give me 16mg of the other, what are the normal effective doses of mithrus?

25-30mg seems to be popular if people run it (Mithras) solo but when stacked, 15mg seems to work great. 4 caps/day would work well for you.
 
not trying to spread rumors here only address something ive read while googling, some guy saying trest was chemical castration... aka no more kids. whats with all this contraception use and what not? any legit concerns over this? im not worried about shut down as im not a complete dumb as* and will run a pct, but is there serious long term concerns for people wanting to have kids? anything more extreme than other cycles cause at least..

thanks again to gohard for all your help. i expect nothing but straight up advice, as you guys at olympus have been very helpful and ive already put in my order and made your money off me lol.
 
Any steroid that causes shutdown is technically temporary chemical castration. The reason ppl talk about ment/trest that way is bc it's being evaluated for a male birth control pill.

Kinda cool, the female pill gives them blood clots and causes weight gain, the male one gets you ripped...
 
not trying to spread rumors here only address something ive read while googling, some guy saying trest was chemical castration... aka no more kids. whats with all this contraception use and what not? any legit concerns over this? im not worried about shut down as im not a complete dumb as* and will run a pct, but is there serious long term concerns for people wanting to have kids? anything more extreme than other cycles cause at least..

thanks again to gohard for all your help. i expect nothing but straight up advice, as you guys at olympus have been very helpful and ive already put in my order and made your money off me lol.

It was studied as a male contraceptive, yes ( Invalid Link Removed ). You know that there are similar studies about testosterone too, right? :) Invalid Link Removed

Every steroid shuts you down. Every steroid may make you sterile for a short period of time. It's that simple. With proper PCT you'll bounce back.

Thank you for those kind words. Everyone here does not like me but I'm doing my best to help others - even with issues that don't have anything to do with Olympus Labs products. If you have any questions about anything, feel free to PM me and I'll try my best to help you!
 
Who doesn't like you? Let's beat their ass!!

No need for that, lol :D I think most people like me but I've received some negative (but constructive - and I'm willing to take advice!) feedback about my rep work (99.9% of it has been positive though, thanks to everyone!). But I'm trying to get better at this rep thing every day and as soon as new logs start popping out, the results will speak for themselves :)

Thanks for those words by the way, I'm smiling!
 
I am planning a 6 week epi cycle next month. I had originally planned to run dermacrine alongside to combat lethargy etc. This tr3st sounds much better but I only have one other mild cycle under my belt. Would stacking these two be too extreme for me? And would an additional AI be necessary considering the antiE effects of epi?
 
I am planning a 6 week epi cycle next month. I had originally planned to run dermacrine alongside to combat lethargy etc. This tr3st sounds much better but I only have one other mild cycle under my belt. Would stacking these two be too extreme for me? And would an additional AI be necessary considering the antiE effects of epi?

It's fine and the best stack. Add some formeron for on cycle or just in case. I would just run it through the whole cycle. I'll be running the same exact cycle around June or July. I'm running tr3st for 8 weeks though.
 
I am planning a 6 week epi cycle next month. I had originally planned to run dermacrine alongside to combat lethargy etc. This tr3st sounds much better but I only have one other mild cycle under my belt. Would stacking these two be too extreme for me? And would an additional AI be necessary considering the antiE effects of epi?
It is not too extreme if you do it smart. There is no reason to go crazy with doses.

Epi doesn't actually have much antiestrogenic properties... It's pretty much just a rumour that has sticked around since the days it first came out. It is possible that you won't need an AI but better have one in hand just in case. Formeron is the best OTC option IMO, just like halfhuman said. Many guys love it, myself included - I'm on Formeron right now!
 
I've used formeron before it is definitely a great product. How much formeron would you need to use on cycle? I recall going through a bottle pretty quick at 2 pumps per day.
 
I've used formeron before it is definitely a great product. How much formeron would you need to use on cycle? I recall going through a bottle pretty quick at 2 pumps per day.
It depends. 2 pumps per day is a good starting point and you can up or lower it if needed.
 
At 2 pumps do you guys typically dose it morning and night or just all at one time?

I'm not sure if it matters much but I always take half of it in the morning and half before bed after shower. It's wonderful stuff, dries pretty fast and it works quickly.
 
No need for that, lol :D I think most people like me but I've received some negative (but constructive - and I'm willing to take advice!) feedback about my rep work (99.9% of it has been positive though, thanks to everyone!). But I'm trying to get better at this rep thing every day and as soon as new logs start popping out, the results will speak for themselves :) Thanks for those words by the way, I'm smiling!

Ohhhhh. Well you seem like a cool dude to me. Lol.

Your doing a great job. Keep it up.

Logs prove everything.
 
Another question. I had planned to start erase on my third week of pct to prevent estro rebound. How would running formeron during cycle interact with this? Would it be too much AI?
 
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