Trestolone Decanoate

[Joshinator]

just got mine, im going to blast in january. Primary goal is strength and my focus will be on armwrestling strengths.

I prefer to go low and slow if possible so im thinking i start with 100mg a week then bump it up as needed. Has anybody used the decanoate version of trest? How long does it take to kick in? I dont want to start too low and then not know by week 5 if its working. Does trest really take the same as nandrolone deconate?

I guess im trying to ask what you guys would recommend for trest decanoate dose and how long itll take before i know if the dose is right?

I'm prepared for the dreaded trest sides and im on TRT so i wont pct. Ill be following the west side barbell routine. Eating right. etc. So, aside from sides, pct, and food do you guys have any other pointers for me?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

for me trest deca is the best. it hits within the first couple days but has long lasting effects. It stacks like any other trest just a little less harsh.

 

[Joshinator]

for me trest deca is the best. it hits within the first couple days but has long lasting effects. It stacks like any other trest just a little less harsh.

Do you find that the dose is about the same as ace? and as a side note, have you used aminos trest deca?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

i liked about 300mgs of trest deca per week.

 

[Hyde]

Do you find that the dose is about the same as ace? and as a side note, have you used aminos trest deca?

I haven’t used Trest dec, but I’d start at the weekly dose of Ace you liked previously and then bump later if you want more. It will be less potent due to longer ester length, but I wouldn’t want to overdo it out of the gate - I mean by definition this is a long run, so no rush.

 

[JKVol]

i liked about 300mgs of trest deca per week.

Do you lower your test dose? When I ran TD Trest Ace, I ran it with a DHT and didn’t have test at the time. I felt fantastic the whole time.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

i ran TD with higher test and I ran all the trest injectables with normal trt dosing. I have also ran TD trest as a low dose trt a couple times

 

[madmuscle24]

just got mine, im going to blast in january. Primary goal is strength and my focus will be on armwrestling strengths.

I prefer to go low and slow if possible so im thinking i start with 100mg a week then bump it up as needed. Has anybody used the decanoate version of trest? How long does it take to kick in? I dont want to start too low and then not know by week 5 if its working. Does trest really take the same as nandrolone deconate?

I guess im trying to ask what you guys would recommend for trest decanoate dose and how long itll take before i know if the dose is right?

I'm prepared for the dreaded trest sides and im on TRT so i wont pct. Ill be following the west side barbell routine. Eating right. etc. So, aside from sides, pct, and food do you guys have any other pointers for me?

Kicks in full swing for me in around 5 weeks personally. I’d start at 150mg then bump up to 225mg then 300mg if needed. From my experience even just 150mg a week stacked with 300mg of test a week brings on a dramatic effect.

 

[Joshinator]

I haven’t used Trest dec, but I’d start at the weekly dose of Ace you liked previously and then bump later if you want more. It will be less potent due to longer ester length, but I wouldn’t want to overdo it out of the gate - I mean by definition this is a long run, so no rush.

thakas, ill shoot for fifteen mg a day to Start. Then I’ll move up to 25 or 35 mg thing on how badly i Want to grow boobies

 

[Joshinator]

Kicks in full swing for me in around 5 weeks personally. I’d start at 150mg then bump up to 225mg then 300mg if needed. From my experience even just 150mg a week stacked with 300mg of test a week brings on a dramatic effect.
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Kicks in full swing for me in around 5 weeks personally. I’d start at 150mg then bump up to 225mg then 300mg if needed. From my experience even just 150mg a week stacked with 300mg of test a week brings on a dramatic effect.

Hopefully i dont need to bump the dose to 300 but man, lol im not going through another cycle without something to show for it.

 

[Joshinator]

Kicks in full swing for me in around 5 weeks personally. I’d start at 150mg then bump up to 225mg then 300mg if needed. From my experience even just 150mg a week stacked with 300mg of test a week brings on a dramatic effect.

lol my last response made it into the quote lol. Thank you! ill start at 15mg with the intent to up to 150-300ish.

 

[Smont]

The problem with bumping up the dose in such small increments with this Esther is the amount of time it takes to reach peak levels.

If you started 150 mg you're not going to reach peak levels for at least 5 weeks, then say you go from 150 to 225, it's gonna be another 5 weeks or so before you reach peak levels at that dose. Also keep in mind that if you pct, it's gonna be like 2 months before it's completely out your system

 

[Smont]

So unless your gonna go 20 weeks or so I would pick a starting dose and if you plan on raising it only raise it once

 

[Joshinator]

So unless your gonna go 20 weeks or so I would pick a starting dose and if you plan on raising it only raise it once

So unless your gonna go 20 weeks or so I would pick a starting dose and if you plan on raising it only raise it once

Good point. Maybe ill just start at 150/week.That should be a good spot to be, and if for some reason its not good enough i could up the dose.

Can anybody comment on amino's RC trest decanoate quality?

 

[SSJ4GOD]

Good point. Maybe ill just start at 150/week.That should be a good spot to be, and if for some reason its not good enough i could up the dose.

Can anybody comment on amino's RC trest decanoate quality?

All of their products I have tried are fire and they have a great reputation. I wouldn’t worry at all

 

[gphagan1]

Good point. Maybe ill just start at 150/week.That should be a good spot to be, and if for some reason its not good enough i could up the dose.

Can anybody comment on amino's RC trest decanoate quality?

I’ve not used their Trest Deca. Only their Trest Ace, but it’s always been good. Actually everything I’ve ran from them has been legit.

 

[JKVol]

Good point. Maybe ill just start at 150/week.That should be a good spot to be, and if for some reason its not good enough i could up the dose.

Can anybody comment on amino's RC trest decanoate quality?

Everything from AA is high quality

 

[SkRaw85]

I’d personally start at 150, reasons being as @Smont stated. Trest dec is a marathon ester. It is glorious.

 

[SkRaw85]

AA is legit

 

[hyperCat]

How often does trest deca need to be pinned?

 

[Smont]

How often does trest deca need to be pinned?

Decanoate technically could be pinned every 2-4 weeks because of the half life, but that would probably cause terrible hormonal fluctuations especially with the methyl estrogen.

It should be pinned a minimum of 1x week and just like every other injectable gear usually the more frequent you pin it, the more stable, the less risk for side effects. I would do a minimum of 2x week personally.


Sooooooo ...... Anywhere from twice a week to once a month, technically speaking

 

[Joshinator]

I’d personally start at 150, reasons being as @Smont stated. Trest dec is a marathon ester. It is glorious.

I was so excited yesterday. then i found a forum where they commented in AA's trest which isnt well regarded. They tested AA's trest ace and it came back 20% lower than advertised. and the general consensus among people whove used it has been that its either bunk or under dosed. I hope its g2g, its too late now

 

[JKVol]

I was so excited yesterday. then i found a forum where they commented in AA's trest which isnt well regarded. They tested AA's trest ace and it came back 20% lower than advertised. and the general consensus among people whove used it has been that its either bunk or under dosed. I hope its g2g, its too late now

You also need to take in account the site you are talking about openly advocates for certain UGL’s, they even advertise on there. You’re not going to see them pumping places like AA on there.

 

[Smont]

I was so excited yesterday. then i found a forum where they commented in AA's trest which isnt well regarded. They tested AA's trest ace and it came back 20% lower than advertised. and the general consensus among people whove used it has been that its either bunk or under dosed. I hope its g2g, its too late now

If the 20% is correct then it's 120mg/ml

120 a week is still a decent starting dose. Probably equivalent to 350-400mg of testosterone. Kinda pulling numbers out my ass but the point is 120mg of trest or tren is a lot different then 120mg of other compounds.

 

[Joshinator]

You also need to take in account the site you are talking about openly advocates for certain UGL’s, they even advertise on there. You’re not going to see them pumping places like AA on there.

Bias? yeah maybe so. We will see! maybe itll be great.

 

[Joshinator]

If the 20% is correct then it's 120mg/ml

120 a week is still a decent starting dose. Probably equivalent to 350-400mg of testosterone. Kinda pulling numbers out my ass but the point is 120mg of trest or tren is a lot different then 120mg of other compounds.

True, i'm just hoping its only 20% under dosed. That test that showed 20% less than advertised was for their trest ace, its possible that the deca wont be under dosed. We will see! im pinning january

 

[JKVol]

Bias? yeah maybe so. We will see! maybe itll be great.

I’m not at all saying they are wrong, I’m saying that site pushes a couple of UGL’s and it wouldn’t make sense to me for them to talk good about someone who sells a product they do.

 

[td1238]

I was so excited yesterday. then i found a forum where they commented in AA's trest which isnt well regarded. They tested AA's trest ace and it came back 20% lower than advertised. and the general consensus among people whove used it has been that its either bunk or under dosed. I hope its g2g, its too late now

I had AA's trest ace tested by Janoshik, and it came back as 44/50. I had their enclomiphene tested, and it came back as 13/12.5. I've compared AA's trest ace to IA Superpharma USA Lite, and it seemed bunk because it didn't seem to "do anything", but IA's is 100mg/ml. I also had it tested, and it came back as 84/100, so it's also underdosed. If you doubled AA's trest A, you'd get 88. Also, when cruising, I ran IA's trest at only 10-15mg, and definitely felt it (sex drive, bloat, etc.). I'm sure that if I let everything clear my system and try AA's trest, I'd probably "feel it".
I've heard some say that legit pharmaceutical items are +/- 20%. I don't know how true this is. Seems like a wide margin of error for supposedly reputable companies. I might expect it from UGLs.

 

[Dblock]

Those numbers are phenomenal…if you are expecting 50/50 or 100/100 to come back you will always be disappointed. That is the plain truth

 

[td1238]

Those numbers are phenomenal…if you are expecting 50/50 or 100/100 to come back you will always be disappointed. That is the plain truth

That's good to know. I've had worse luck with IA's NPP. It actually tests full strength, but is like 129mg deca and 74mg npp. It's nice if you want to run deca with a kickstart, but if you want actual NPP, well, that isn't it. Most of their other items I've had tested test near or at full strength. Their deca is worst--200/250. Their primo is surprisingly 90/100. Most everything I've bought from AA seems legit, but I've only had two items tested that I can recall. The tests are expensive. Last set of three tests cost $400.

 

[Smont]

Those numbers are phenomenal…if you are expecting 50/50 or 100/100 to come back you will always be disappointed. That is the plain truth

No dude, those are bullshit numbers, thats absolutely a terrible way to look at things and that mentally is how companies can get away with screwing ppl over. If my ugl gear comes underdosed then i let everyone i know whos using them the source went to **** and move on, i mean if it was 1 time no big deal but not every time. No im not testing everything i buy, but i have a circle of ppl we all share the same supplier and whenever one of us thinks something is up, someone will get it tested. Ive had sources go bad before, many do. There will always be some slight varience but it shouldn'tbe 15-20%. Stop accepting people ripping you off or they will keep ripping you off. Theres been ppl showing this trest being underdosed from day 1, and everyone accepts it, so guess what happens. Nothing because your gonna buy it anyway. Get what im saying. When your shorting 15-20% of a product and selling 10's of thousands or 100's of thousands of products your making 100's of thousands if not millions of extra dollers on the product your shorting your customers. Dont support that.

 

[td1238]

No dude, those are bullshit numbers, thats absolutely a terrible way to look at things and that mentally is how companies can get away with screwing ppl over. If my ugl gear comes underdosed then i let everyone i know whos using them the source went to **** and move on, i mean if it was 1 time no big deal but not every time. No im not testing everything i buy, but i have a circle of ppl we all share the same supplier and whenever one of us thinks something is up, someone will get it tested. Ive had sources go bad before, many do. There will always be some slight varience but it shouldn'tbe 15-20%. Stop accepting people ripping you off or they will keep ripping you off. Theres been ppl showing this trest being underdosed from day 1, and everyone accepts it, so guess what happens. Nothing because your gonna buy it anyway. Get what im saying. When your shorting 15-20% of a product and selling 10's of thousands or 100's of thousands of products your making 100's of thousands if not millions of extra dollers on the product your shorting your customers. Dont support that.

You have a good source right now that you like that you can inbox me on? The problem with these tests, too, is that they're mere snapshots. I make over 6 figures, but I'm not too huge on dropping hundreds of dollars over and over on tests. I've tried a few other sources that seemed to have worse gear that "didn't do anything," but I haven't had any of it tested. I dropped them both because the gear seemed bunk and the shipping times were very long. I've recently tried another source that I avoided because of their aggressive marketing tactics and slander for other sources. I have to say that the product seems very potent, but I haven't had it tested. It does "work" very well, though. The two sources I've mentioned I've had good results from even though I know that at least one of them sells somewhat underdosed gear (their test e actually tested full strength, which doesn't mean that it always is). ...And there's pricing.... Do I use a source that I know is underdosed or buy from another source that I know nothing about that sells the same or smaller marked doses at a higher price? It would be ideal to find a source that consistently sells potent gear. Eventually I'll have gear from my most recent source tested, and kind of "feel them out." For one, it'd be nice to find a good source of genuine NPP that's dosed at 200mg. I want to run a gram or so, and that's a lot of pinning at 100mg.

 

[Smont]

You have a good source right now that you like that you can inbox me on? The problem with these tests, too, is that they're mere snapshots. I make over 6 figures, but I'm not too huge on dropping hundreds of dollars over and over on tests. I've tried a few other sources that seemed to have worse gear that "didn't do anything," but I haven't had any of it tested. I dropped them both because the gear seemed bunk and the shipping times were very long. I've recently tried another source that I avoided because of their aggressive marketing tactics and slander for other sources. I have to say that the product seems very potent, but I haven't had it tested. It does "work" very well, though. The two sources I've mentioned I've had good results from even though I know that at least one of them sells somewhat underdosed gear (their test e actually tested full strength, which doesn't mean that it always is). ...And there's pricing.... Do I use a source that I know is underdosed or buy from another source that I know nothing about that sells the same or smaller marked doses at a higher price? It would be ideal to find a source that consistently sells potent gear. Eventually I'll have gear from my most recent source tested, and kind of "feel them out." For one, it'd be nice to find a good source of genuine NPP that's dosed at 200mg. I want to run a gram or so, and that's a lot of pinning at 100mg.

Not for trestolone, most regular gear sources ive come across over the years dont sell it. Its far less popular outside of the forums.

 

[td1238]

Not for trestolone, most regular gear sources ive come across over the years dont sell it. Its far less popular outside of the forums.

It's interesting stuff. As others have said, it's like dbol, but injectable. Doesn't harm liver or appetite. Most methylated orals kill my appetite/liver within a week even with liver support, so no more orals for me. Mood is great. Sex drive is distracting. I find that mood is too pleasant to rage/lift hard at the gym. However, if I run high trest (84mg/day), and add in IA's NPP concoction, I rage as bad as tren. Not sure why. First time I ran it, I ran it with low EQ, which kept estrogen sides under control. Gained 10 pounds rather fast, and kept it after I came off. Second time I ran it without eq. High sex drive, good mood, bloat, gyno. Didn't gain much of anything.

AIs will not control the estrogen of trest since it's created in the liver, not via the aromataze enzyme. That said, you need serms to control it, or just use trest as an estrogen booster, not as a main ingredient of your cycle. I don't know why EQ throttles estrogen, and I'm not sure that others do, either. Derek from More Plates More Dates says that more involved tests have shown it to convert to estrone, though there were also some possible metabolites that somehow control/reduce estrogen.

I've switched to a high dose deca solo cycle and have used trest here and there when I feel that estrogen is low, but decided to instead switch to low test E since it doesn't have to be pinned often. Works well. Solid enough mood to kill it at the gym, but I'm also pleasant around my coworkers. Sex drive is there for sure, but not distracting or causing you to want to cheat/sleep around. I've gained 12 pounds slowly and steadily on this cycle that I'm 6 weeks on so far. Part way into the cycle I switched to a FST-7 workout, and this is the first time on gear that my legs have been in strong pain up to 6 days after legs day. It might be excessive for someone my age. I'm going to switch this week off to one of my lighter, smaller workout plans to allow for recovery. My arms, shoulders, everything is in pain days later.

I'm considering trest decanoate for my next cycle for estrogen boosting if necessary, since it doesn't have to be pinned often, either. Using a combo of deca and trest might be good for someone who loses hair from DHT. It'd shut down their nuts and otherwise not be a source of DHT. However, regulating estrogen with something that has a half life of 15 days might be tricky. If you pin trest decanoate every week, it's going to build in your system, so it either has to be pinned very low, or maybe every other week. I've had that issue with EQ, but in the opposite direction. It doesn't take very much to crash my estrogen , and then it's waiting over a week for it to recover, or adding something like trestolone to bring it back up. 20-30ml twice a week will crash my estrogen by the 4th week, so I might pin it a little and then skip a week or more until I feel high estrogen sides again.

 

[Dblock]

To clarify my statement, if some company puts out a novel item that no one else carries and I can buy it legally and with ease…. I will be comfortable with it being a few mg/ml off and buy it. For instance if said company puts out Dienolone Ace again I will buy it because no one has it and it is pretty darn awesome.

 

[Hyde]

To clarify my statement, if some company puts out a novel item that no one else carries and I can buy it legally and with ease…. I will be comfortable with it being a few mg/ml off and buy it. For instance if said company puts out Dienolone Ace again I will buy it because no one has it and it is pretty darn awesome.

RIP Dienelone

 

[mase1]

PM a trest option....

 

[Smont]

To clarify my statement, if some company puts out a novel item that no one else carries and I can buy it legally and with ease…. I will be comfortable with it being a few mg/ml off and buy it. For instance if said company puts out Dienolone Ace again I will buy it because no one has it and it is pretty darn awesome.

I can understand that. I still choose not to support ppl knowingly shorting customers. Ive grabbed some in the past knowing what i was getting so im not completely clean myself on that. I also never have seen trest live up to the hype for myself so id rather have test 200-300mg/ml bottles all costing about 1/4 of what trest costs. The one benifit i say in trest has for me is i can use a tiny amount and completely cut out testosterone but any attempt to push trest up has found me in trouble. The dose i need to grow on also grows me tits, even with lots of ai. I dont get any other special benifits from it other then as a no test base. I alway manage to try it again under different circumstances but never found anything more then average from it

 

[td1238]

I can understand that. I still choose not to support ppl knowingly shorting customers. Ive grabbed some in the past knowing what i was getting so im not completely clean myself on that. I also never have seen trest live up to the hype for myself so id rather have test 200-300mg/ml bottles all costing about 1/4 of what trest costs. The one benifit i say in trest has for me is i can use a tiny amount and completely cut out testosterone but any attempt to push trest up has found me in trouble. The dose i need to grow on also grows me tits, even with lots of ai. I dont get any other special benifits from it other then as a no test base. I alway manage to try it again under different circumstances but never found anything more then average from it

It is changed to estrogen through the liver, so an AI won't work. I found that I had no gyno issues when I added eq, maybe 30-40mL twice a week. I was running trest at ~ 84mg /day. When I ran it without EQ, I ramped up a lot of raloxifene, which was not as successful at keeping gyno at bay. The sex drive and mood on trest can be incredible, but I'm finding gains to be as good or better on deca with just a little test or trest, and mood/sex drive are where I'd normally want them, so yes, not really any huge benefit to a trest cycle. I'm thinking that running trest D with deca durabolin might be beneficial to those prone to hair loss. Just a guess, though. Actual use would be the only way to prove this. I'm not prone to hair loss, so I can't really experiment on myself.

 

[Smont]

Sounds great on paper. In the real world the ai works fine for many people. I can control it but id rather just use test and not need a mg of adex every day. So the juice isint worth the squeeze. My gyno flare ups are from prolactin gyno caused by transdermal trest 7alpha ace oddly enough

 

[Smont]

The 7 ace transdermal seemed to be significantly stronger and significantly more side effects then trest ace injectable as will. Did anyone ever try 7 ace from pre back when they were a sponcer

 

[SkRaw85]

The 7 ace transdermal seemed to be significantly stronger and significantly more side effects then trest ace injectable as will. Did anyone ever try 7 ace from pre back when they were a sponcer

That was the first trest I used. It slapped for sure. Honestly, that stuff did hit harder than inj ace (assuming the mgs were the same)

 

[Smont]

That was the first trest I used. It slapped for sure. Honestly, that stuff did hit harder than inj ace (assuming the mgs were the same)

Definitely, i dont really "feel" the stuff. But results and side effects were more leading me to believe it was stronger mg/mg

 

[SkRaw85]

Definitely, i dont really "feel" the stuff. But results and side effects were more leading me to believe it was stronger mg/mg

PRE and PRO were amazing. Greatly missed. Wouldn’t be surprised if they were well over listed mgs

 

[WickedWarlock]

Definitely, i dont really "feel" the stuff. But results and side effects were more leading me to believe it was stronger mg/mg

Was it actual Trest or was it the PH to Trest that mentabolin was? I believe the PH was stronger actually than the actual compound. Similar to how people like H-drol more than tbol. Damn I wish I stocked up on h-drol

 

[Smont]

Was it actual Trest or was it the PH to Trest that mentabolin was? I believe the PH was stronger actually than the actual compound. Similar to how people like H-drol more than tbol. Damn I wish I stocked up on h-drol

Already mentioned above. Trest 7 alpha ace.

 

[Smont]

Also hdrol isint really a ph to tbol. I mean some of it does but hdrol is a active steroid on its own.

 

[SkRaw85]

Was it actual Trest or was it the PH to Trest that mentabolin was? I believe the PH was stronger actually than the actual compound. Similar to how people like H-drol more than tbol. Damn I wish I stocked up on h-drol

Actual. Thanks for reminding me though, I have a few mentabolan 15mgs I gotta use up

 

[JKVol]

The 7 ace transdermal seemed to be significantly stronger and significantly more side effects then trest ace injectable as will. Did anyone ever try 7 ace from pre back when they were a sponcer

I ran PRE’s 7 Ace TD multiple times and as long as i paired it with a solid DHT I was fine. However a combo of 7 Ace and a DHT was fantastic on a cut. Obviously it was meant for the gym but it was also the best bedroom combo I’ve ever had. Really wish 7 Ace TD was around.

 

[Smont]

Was it actual Trest or was it the PH to Trest that mentabolin was? I believe the PH was stronger actually than the actual compound. Similar to how people like H-drol more than tbol. Damn I wish I stocked up on h-drol

Hdrol was my first cycle and i used it several times, i really liked it. It was probably the most user friendly thing ive ever used. I remember being scared to take more then 50mg a day. 2 years later im up to 125mg a day and i never saw a single side effect. There was someone here back in the day using 200mg a day. I think i stopped at 125 because it seemed to have capped out on what it was doing. I wasnt even sure it was better then 100 so i always said 100-125 was the sweet spot. Oddly enough, if you wanter outside the forum and listen to some of the coaching podcssts you will hear most orals around 100mg seems to be were they run them