Unanswered Trest update

[Mathb33]

I don’t mean sound like a downer but I know you came off cycle, then cruised on a high dose of test, I believe said 600mg could be wrong. That’s a cycle in itself! Then you did a low dose 10-15 mg SD run and now want to cruise again but add something else, perhaps trest? Brother much love but give yourself a break. It’s not worth constantly staying ON if your not collecting a pay check for doing so much gear.

I would drop down to 200mg of Test only. Enjoy your life a little bit. It will also give you a REAL idea how strong you are and what you look like when your not consistently jacked on gear.

sorry don’t be mad.

I appreciate your concern brother! I’ve been off NPP since August and lowered my test from 500 to 250 since early September so I’ve been on 250mg test since a month and a half. I finished with SD that’s true though! I won’t be blasting until probably April or March but I was looking at something I could pin this winter that wouldn’t be too harsh on me/my bloods. Maybe im just too hungry :/

 

[cstallion]

How does Trest impact energy leveled outside of libido? Since getting off TRT last year, I’m just kinda of tired and lethargic. Wondering if Trest would help me get some pep back in my step?

 

[Mathb33]

@ItalOne so that’s your final answer??? Shiiiiit. @Matthersby

 

[LGTWHIT]

Love it, well said!!!!

 

[ItalOne]

I appreciate your concern brother! I’ve been off NPP since August and lowered my test from 500 to 250 since early September so I’ve been on 250mg test since a month and a half. I finished with SD that’s true though! I won’t be blasting until probably April or March but I was looking at something I could pin this winter that wouldn’t be too harsh on me/my bloods. Maybe im just too hungry :/

I’m not trying to sound preachy man.
It’s just a recommendation. If I was going to
add something to my trt dose of test it would be some thing with very low sides and low maintenance. Being that’s it’s winter/bulk season I like Deca @ 300mg, it’s also great for joints which helps with lifting heavy. Though it takes a long time to kick in 5-6 weeks. If it were summer I’d probably add some mast E.

This is what I did in my old days. I honestly don’t roll like that anymore. The longer you stay off the more effective the next cycle will be.

 

[Mathb33]

I’m not trying to sound preachy man.
It’s just a recommendation. If I was going to
add something to my trt dose of test it would be some thing with very low sides and low maintenance. Being that’s it’s winter/bulk season I like Deca @ 300mg, it’s also great for joints which helps with lifting heavy. Though it takes a long time to kick in 5-6 weeks. If it were summer I’d probably add some mast E.

This is what I did in my old days. I honestly don’t roll like that anymore. The longer you stay off the more effective the next cycle will be.

Thanks. So if I take your advice correctly I should add trest ace at 300mg a week, mast at 400 and deca 300? Word. Nah I’m joking you’re probably right I really should take it easy until January and maybe then just add npp for a few weeks idk but just chill until my cut in March. Don’t worry btw I like your honesty that’s what I want.

 

[Matthersby]

How does Trest impact energy leveled outside of libido? Since getting off TRT last year, I’m just kinda of tired and lethargic. Wondering if Trest would help me get some pep back in my step?

Yes. Clean energy, not anxious like Mast or Tren.
It’s #1 imo for libido AND energy.
That real persistent gyno is really it’s only drawback. I mean, it’s superior to most all aas in every other way. It won’t shred you but if diets solid, you’ll lean out better than npp and several others.

 

[Matthersby]

What about hematocrit and rbc?

It could be totally different for you, but I’m pretty consistent with labs, and it doesn’t even come close to raising them as quickly as npp(which is really the closest thing to it in terms of gains, leaning, estrogen etc). I would never cruise npp for the sole reason of hct, it doesn’t even come close to that, that’s why I have many times, ran it for 3+ months. Zero long term lab issues other than combating that methyl estro hitting your nips hard daily.

 

[cstallion]

Yes. Clean energy, not anxious like Mast or Tren.
It’s #1 imo for libido AND energy.
That real persistent gyno is really it’s only drawback. I mean, it’s superior to most all aas in every other way. It won’t shred you but if diets solid, you’ll lean out better than npp and several others.

Good to hear, thanks @Matthersby! I got two bottles from OR arriving sometime this week! Can’t wait to get back on the gain train!

 

[JKVol]

What’s the half life on TD Trest Ace?

 

[Matthersby]

What’s the half life on TD Trest Ace?

I forgot, something like 16 hours?
You can apply once daily, twice would be better.
I’m not a TD guy so I’m just replying if no one else does that knows a lot better.

 

[Nac]

What’s the half life on TD Trest Ace?

This question is kind of misleading. The compound has a halflife of 25hrs say, but due to the administration method the *delivery* of the compound is stretched out, effectively. This doesnt change the compounds halflife though.

Really, TD is just a convenient and practical way of dosing the compound throughout the day. Much more steadier plasma levels. But, tradeoff is much lower uptake mg for mg.

 

[Mathb33]

This question is kind of misleading. The compound has a halflife of 25hrs say, but due to the administration method the *delivery* of the compound is stretched out, effectively. This doesnt change the compounds halflife though.

Toxicity TD vs injectable trest? I’d assume it’s similar? Although I would say gains from td would only be like 50% as good

 

[Mathb33]

This question is kind of misleading. The compound has a halflife of 25hrs say, but due to the administration method the *delivery* of the compound is stretched out, effectively. This doesnt change the compounds halflife though.

Toxicity TD vs injectable trest? I’d assume it’s similar? Although I would say gains from td would only be like 50% as good

 

[SkRaw85]

What’s the half life on TD Trest Ace?

I applied it every 12 hrs on the dot with optimal results.

 

[Nac]

Toxicity TD vs injectable trest? I’d assume it’s similar?

Cool thing is all the human studies were done with implanted pellets, which a TD more closely mimics than inject. But, the doses were tiny, compared to what we use. There were effects to blood parameters across the board, but I personally wouldnt call them significant. But, again, the studied doses were much smaller than what we'd take. Ill post up the bloods, but I think all bets are off when going IM.

Although I would say gains from td would only be like 50% as good

Problem with TD is you wont get anywhere near the plasma levels as inject mg for mg. Cost:benefit is pretty meh for something extra on a cruise, I think youd maybe be better going 1:1 test:mast (150:150), lots of TRT guys do that.

 

[Mathb33]

I applied it every 12 hrs on the dot with optimal results.

Can you give me a quick update on how that TD Went for you?! Really curious if you don’t mind

 

[Nac]

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Lol, the doses in the study were approx 0.5mg of MENT per day.

 

[SkRaw85]

Can you give me a quick update on how that TD Went for you?! Really curious if you don’t mind

Yes. Can’t find my old log I dunno where it went buuuut:
Started around 205 lbs, ended 232. Got my first 4 plate bench that cycle. 60 mg td trest daily (30 mg every 12 hrs), Rad 140 at 12 mg daily, halodrol 100-150 mgs (ramped up). 3 month run. Didn’t want it to end. Could run through a metal wall boner first no problem. Constantly perverted and horny (more than normal, and that is uncanny). Very good sense of well being all the time. All in all it was simply amazing. Next experience will be IM trest dec

 

[Mathb33]

Yes. Can’t find my old log I dunno where it went buuuut:
Started around 205 lbs, ended 232. Got my first 4 plate bench that cycle. 60 mg td trest daily (30 mg every 12 hrs), Rad 140 at 12 mg daily, halodrol 100-150 mgs (ramped up). 3 month run. Didn’t want it to end. Could run through a metal wall boner first no problem. Constantly perverted and horny (more than normal, and that is uncanny). Very good sense of well being all the time. All in all it was simply amazing. Next experience will be IM trest dec

Nice. Did you need to control estrogen as bad as you normally would with inj? I guess not

 

[Matthersby]

Toxicity TD vs injectable trest? I’d assume it’s similar? Although I would say gains from td would only be like 50% as good

Even at half the results of injectable, it’s still raved about with positive reviews. I haven’t had the same results these last few years, but the first time you run Trest, you’re blown away by how much muscle you put on. Match it with a strong DHT oral like Msten, it’s just stupid. Dry, ridiculous gains every day.

 

[Mathb33]

Even at half the results of injectable, it’s still raved about with positive reviews. I haven’t had the same results these last few years, but the first time you run Trest, you’re blown away by how much muscle you put on. Match it with a strong DHT oral like Msten, it’s just stupid. Dry, ridiculous gains every day.

Wanna keep it not too Agro cause I’m supposed to be off everything except test until March but I might TD trest + proviron in December or January... I might opt for td vs inj just because I don’t wanna play around with my ai doses to fight gyno off and I’m not mistaking td doesn’t aromatize nearly as much as inj.

 

[SkRaw85]

Nice. Did you need to control estrogen as bad as you normally would with inj? I guess not

Yeah it was a ride. Accidentally crushed it once, that sucked. I only had to use exem estate though, no ralox or others needed.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

i like the trest d brother.. good **** back in the day.. trest e is the one i found meh..

 

[cstallion]

Even at half the results of injectable, it’s still raved about with positive reviews. I haven’t had the same results these last few years, but the first time you run Trest, you’re blown away by how much muscle you put on. Match it with a strong DHT oral like Msten, it’s just stupid. Dry, ridiculous gains every day.

That’s what I’m doing! Just popped my first 10 mg of MSten before the gym! Will start the Trest as soon as it arrives! Throwing up my log tonight, can’t wait!

 

[cstallion]

Even at half the results of injectable, it’s still raved about with positive reviews. I haven’t had the same results these last few years, but the first time you run Trest, you’re blown away by how much muscle you put on. Match it with a strong DHT oral like Msten, it’s just stupid. Dry, ridiculous gains every day.

That’s what I’m doing! Just popped my first 10 mg of MSten before the gym! Will start the Trest as soon as it arrives! Throwing up my log tonight, can’t wait!

 

[Matthersby]

That’s what I’m doing! Just popped my first 10 mg of MSten before the gym! Will start the Trest as soon as it arrives! Throwing up my log tonight, can’t wait!

You’re gonna love it. Great combo, one of the best stacks I’ve ever ran.

 

[Codybenz]

So I can say that after a week on ED dosing, the scale is moving in the right direction again and I’m getting fuller. Still don’t notice any increase in libido, but as I stated earlier mine is already crazy high.

 

[cstallion]

So I can say that after a week on ED dosing, the scale is moving in the right direction again and I’m getting fuller. Still don’t notice any increase in libido, but as I stated earlier mine is already crazy high.

Looking big, hoss!

 

[SkRaw85]

Woooooooo!

 

[Matthersby]

So I can say that after a week on ED dosing, the scale is moving in the right direction again and I’m getting fuller. Still don’t notice any increase in libido, but as I stated earlier mine is already crazy high.

Big Boy there!
I totally know you know this already. But I’ve noticed this is especially true with Trest. When I run it and receptors aren’t totally primed: like I literally just got off something else a week prior, I don’t see the results I want from it. When I’ve ran it with 4 months off-on cruise only prior, it’s like 5 times stronger for me.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

i think i know of a couple dudes who dont really get much of a libido increase.. that said, you surely wont lose any ground... namsayin?

 

[Codybenz]

i think i know of a couple dudes who dont really get much of a libido increase.. that said, you surely wont lose any ground... namsayin?
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Well that’s good, lol. My wife wouldn’t be happy. As high as my libido is, hers puts mine to shame. She gotta have it

 

[JKVol]

i think i know of a couple dudes who dont really get much of a libido increase.. that said, you surely wont lose any ground... namsayin?

I get a big lift in libido and in performance.

 

[Matthersby]

So I can say that after a week on ED dosing, the scale is moving in the right direction again and I’m getting fuller. Still don’t notice any increase in libido, but as I stated earlier mine is already crazy high.

I was starting to worry as I bought a 50ml jug from the same lab you did, and it was a little on the pricey side. Assumed it worked bc I had to use Ralox the whole time, but I was on a big TRT dose and only low dose cruised it, so it was just an assumption. Sounds like it’s working with a heftier dose. I’m surprised still at the belly bloating you were having, even on Proviron. I wake up with the flattest stomach ever on 125/day Proviron no matter how much npp or Trest I’m on.

 

[Codybenz]

I was starting to worry as I bought a 50ml jug from the same lab you did, and it was a little on the pricey side. Assumed it worked bc I had to use Ralox the whole time, but I was on a big TRT dose and only low dose cruised it, so it was just an assumption. Sounds like it’s working with a heftier dose. I’m surprised still at the belly bloating you were having, even on Proviron. I wake up with the flattest stomach ever on 125/day Proviron no matter how much npp or Trest I’m on.

Yeah man it was weird. It would only last for a few hours after I ate. Even if I didn’t have many carbs. Belly would bloat like a balloon and feel like ****. Made me not want to eat. It has happened a little bit since going ED injections but not bad at all. It must just be my body not liking the Trest. Can’t explain it but hope it stays away.

A few people on here have experienced the same thing. Just reinforces the fact that everybody reacts differently to compounds.

 

[Matthersby]

Yeah man it was weird. It would only last for a few hours after I ate. Even if I didn’t have many carbs. Belly would bloat like a balloon and feel like ****. Made me not want to eat. It has happened a little bit since going ED injections but not bad at all. It must just be my body not liking the Trest. Can’t explain it but hope it stays away.

A few people on here have experienced the same thing. Just reinforces the fact that everybody reacts differently to compounds.

I go to bed almost 10lbs heavier than I wake up and can’t even hold my stomach in it’s so full. I think I get it with any estrogenic compound but I haven’t zeroed in exactly what since I’m always on something it seems.

 

[Codybenz]

I go to bed almost 10lbs heavier than I wake up and can’t even hold my stomach in it’s so full. I think I get it with any estrogenic compound but I haven’t zeroed in exactly what since I’m always on something it seems.

This was like gas bloating. I too get the full
Belly when eating a lot calories, because I like to eat and live in south Louisiana, lol. The Trest bloat I was getting was more gassy and would even happen after breakfast. GasX helped some.
Hasn’t been an issue since ED dosing. Now I don’t know if the dosing protocol changed that or if my body is getting used to and tolerating the compound better.

Today was my birthday so I ate a lot, no bloating and about to go to bed and could eat more if I so chose. Stomach is fine. 2 weeks ago, you could have used me as a yoga ball

 

[SkRaw85]

Happy bloated, I mean, belated birthday! TD had me bloat up the first 2 weeks, then it filled out nicely.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

wife swap comes to mind..

 

[Codybenz]

wife swap comes to mind..

I definitely married up.

She is going to do a primo run here in a few weeks. I’ll post some before and after pics for y’all’s enjoyment. And because not a lot of info for women on here. Figure it can’t hurt to post her experience with it.

 

[JKVol]

I wish DHT cream was easier to find.

 

[Codybenz]

I wish DHT cream was easier to find.

Androhard topical. They sell it on amazon. Converts to DHT

 

[CroLifter]

Hmm combining injectable test + mast with TD trest + dht...
That would be interesting.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Hmm combining injectable test + mast with TD trest + dht...
That would be interesting.

basically my go to favorite. DHT and trest with a touch of test... makes life just feel good.

 

[Matthersby]

basically my go to favorite. DHT and trest with a touch of test... makes life just feel good.

Right there with you.

 

[JKVol]

Androhard topical. They sell it on amazon. Converts to DHT

Used it many of times. Just liked to have the real stuff.

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

Used it many of times. Just liked to have the real stuff.

enhanced sells it. .. for like 80 bucks !

 

[JKVol]

enhanced sells it. .. for like 80 bucks !

Enhanced?

 

[Outofbody]

Yeah, some guys prefer high test when running trenbolone. I cant imagine many feeling the same way when stacking with trest, though. Hell, Ive blasted trestolone successfully with no test; I think its preferrable.

Id even be inclined to go as far as saying up the trestolone to 400mg and drop test completely.

I did my last trest ace run without any test whatsoever and it was great. I had less E2 related sides this time for some reason.