Trenadrol Gains

Ultimate1985

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6/22/2009
34" waist
16.375" biceps
42.5" chest
15.125" calves
41" hips
resting BP 110/76
resting HR 75 bpm
Bodyweight 194 lbs

7/10/09
34.25" waist
17.0" biceps
42.5" chest
15.375" calves
41" hips
resting BP 137/82
resting HR 78 bpm
Bodyweight 205 lbs

Diet was not clean, but I seemed to not gain much fat if any, and the distribution was very good (added to upper body instead of thighs and glutes). I typically ate about 4500 calories per day, 300 g protein, 500g carbs, 150 grams fat. Training was six days per week of weights, hitting the whole body twice weekly.

Side effects: Mentally, I felt "womanly" at times, almost like the "Clomid blues", but at other times I would have a very short fuse and break somebody's face if they pissed me off. My libido was higher than normal, but not out of control. Having my girlfriend around probably saved me from committing a couple sex crimes (j/k).

My strength went up, but not as much as I thought it would. I do not know if I could have achieved the same strength gains without trenadrol. At the end of the cycle, although my waist measurement went up slightly, my abs appeared no less defined than before, maybe even more defined. My upper body mass definitely increased, as I've never added 0.625" to my arms in less than three weeks...not even as a newbie.

Would I try Trendrol again? Maybe. Only because of the recent issues I have heard about with Kilo Sports being raided and all that. One source said that although KS advertises their product as methoxy-tren, it tested to just be trenbolone, since trenbolone has a higher oral bioavailability than testosterone and some other steroids. Who knows. I got great results from it. Unfortunately, the batch/lot # rubbed off my bottle before I finished the cycle, so I do not know what batch it is.

Dosage was 90/90/90/120 (for five days), 18 days total for cycle.

PCT is Vitrix plus Arremedext for two weeks. I did not experience much shutdown from this product.
 
what source are you quoting that says this is just trenbolone? it would have to be methyl tren if it were and people would be getting seriously f'ed up from it
 
mooch2321 said:
what source are you quoting that says this is just trenbolone? it would have to be methyl tren if it were and people would be getting seriously f'ed up from it
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The Methyl-Tren article sounds right, but I thought they mentioned Trenadrol as well. Since the oral bioavailability of actual trenbolone is still pretty low, I would imagine that the sides would be no worse than taking a very low dose of tren IM if the capsules actually were filled (partially) with trenbolone.

After re-reading my first post, I did forget to mention that I had some insomnia and night sweats like a MF. Hell, I would get hot flashes in the most inappropriate times, like in air conditioned buildings. The sides were much more tolerable than those of SD, however. My BP went up quite a bit even though I was taking a high dose of fish oil every day. In the future, I would add niacin as well to help with the BP and the likely unhealthy lipid profile.
 
mooch2321 said:
what source are you quoting that says this is just trenbolone? it would have to be methyl tren if it were and people would be getting seriously f'ed up from it
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from what ive been hearing tranadrol is simply the estra/19nor dienelone product.

which isnt that bad of a thing anyhow.
 
soultrain said:
Vitrex and Arimidex? Please don't tell me that's all you're taking.
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Actually, Vitrix and Arremadext XT (which is ATD, 6-oxo, and Novadex). That's all I am taking. :cool:

Unless you include the fish oil, protein, glutamine, and multivitamin. So far, I have been off the Trenadrol about one week and have not lost any strength or size.
 
TNASTYII said:
trenadrol def didnt add weight to me. it kept it off. it just melted off
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I suppose that would depend on your diet. If you keep the calories clean and don't go overboard, it becomes more of a weight loss / anti-catabolic aid. If you eat like I did, I find it very hard to believe anyone cannot gain solid muscle on this product (aside of spectoscopy/compound issues). But I definitely felt the fat-loss effects as well. I would sweat while I was eating on this stuff.
 
i took 90mg a day for 4 wks of p-tren and gained 8 soild lbs. i did lose some after but mainly due to I stopped 2 wks of everything besides liq clom. I was studying for a extremly important test to me and was stressed out like crazy. Snice all that is done I have gained pretty much all of it back without tren but a few lbs.
 
I find its hard to keep the gains off the dienelone precursors no matter how good your PCT is....thats why im selling mine, NOT WORTH IT!
 
searl12 said:
I find its hard to keep the gains off the dienelone precursors no matter how good your PCT is....thats why im selling mine, NOT WORTH IT!
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That's odd since trenbolones are quipped as having maximal post cycle lean mass retention. Has anyone else had trouble keeping diendione gains, or just you personally?
 
Ultimate1985 said:
That's odd since trenbolones are quipped as having maximal post cycle lean mass retention. Has anyone else had trouble keeping diendione gains, or just you personally?
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yes but its not tren, its a dumb marketing gimmick that people fall for....

oral only cycles suck because the gains melt away as quick as they come.

just my .02
 
searl12 said:
yes but its not tren, its a dumb marketing gimmick that people fall for....

oral only cycles suck because the gains melt away as quick as they come.

just my .02
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You're right, it isn't tren, but it should be very similar. The only difference is that it is missing a double-bond at the 9 position, and the 17 position is a keto group instead of a hydroxyl. I can't agree or disagree with you about the impermanence of orals. We'll see in a week or so.
 
lol, there you go, try it out see how it goes, I guess dienelone must be structurally similar to tren so I guess it could be close. It certainly isnt a bad hormone per say I just think the sides outweigh the benefits and that there are better compounds out there, I myself just sold my orals (tren M1T)and while speaking to the guy discovered hes connected to the gills to labs here and him and I are going shopping:mischievous:

Guy is kool but when hes not on injectables he says "he takes it easy on his body and uses prohormones"

I asked him if he meant year round, he said "ya all my boys do it year round"

Guys nice and all but hes gonna be dead sooner than later, I was gonna try to talk some sense into him but its tough to change people like this...plus I dont want to fck up my chances of gettin my test cyp.

hehehehe giddy as fck!
 
Structural similarity doesn't really mean jack **** though.

You take Equipoise and methylate it (just 1 more carbon) and it's Dianabol. The two steroids are about as opposite as it gets.

In practice, the PH "tren" does seem relatively similar to real tren (relative to other PH right), but it's still not the same.

Real tren is the stuff Gods are made out of

searl12 said:
I asked him if he meant year round, he said "ya all my boys do it year round"
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That's seriously disturbing... so this guy is serious, he's not bull****ting you? WTF... i mean I know the body can handle quite a lot, but by this point all his bloodwork #s have got to be pretty screwed... and recovery of natural test after being suppressed for years is only a *possibility*...
 
no doubt, I was the one that said it wasnt tren, im sure he will figure it out.

totally unrealated...unreal which test do I want cyp, prop, or eth? if you dont mind me asking, ive never run real AAS, and what type of PCT?obviously I could google but when I have an unreal machine to ask....google might be a waste.

appreciate any help you give me.
 
Which ester test to use obviously depends on how long you want to run it. For longer runs enanthate makes more sense because it involves less injections (and its cheaper). For shorter runs, or for stacking it with PH, AAS orals, or other short esters (mast prop, tren ace being notable), use test prop.

Test cyp is kinda pointless because the half life is about the same as enanthate (its just slightly longer) but a lot of the time it's only at 200mg/mL...
 
interesting, guy said hes gonna get himself some prop and me some cyp? again I read more than I can on the stuff just not too sure why he would suggest cyp. Im planning on starting small, a cherry popper cycle to get the feet wet, if you advise one for a beginner (not to hormones) id love to hear which one that would be.

Again I do appreciate it
prev cycles
2 M1T runs (awful stuff)
2 extreme tren
2 epi
and one Methandrol

probably should have pmd you all this stuff....apoligies for junking the thread up
 
UnrealMachine said:
Structural similarity doesn't really mean jack **** though.

You take Equipoise and methylate it (just 1 more carbon) and it's Dianabol. The two steroids are about as opposite as it gets.

In practice, the PH "tren" does seem relatively similar to real tren (relative to other PH right), but it's still not the same.

Real tren is the stuff Gods are made out of



That's seriously disturbing... so this guy is serious, he's not bull****ting you? WTF... i mean I know the body can handle quite a lot, but by this point all his bloodwork #s have got to be pretty screwed... and recovery of natural test after being suppressed for years is only a *possibility*...
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very serious, again i was suprised at how nice the guy was, i actually like him....says his boy swears he will never come off cycle, he will just cruise and lower doses...I dont know if I get to know him a little better ill talk some sense into him, says he has a little girl and what not...you would think that would be enough for him to smarten up?
 
UnrealMachine said:
Structural similarity doesn't really mean jack **** though.

You take Equipoise and methylate it (just 1 more carbon) and it's Dianabol. The two steroids are about as opposite as it gets.
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That's true. Although methylating the 17-position tends to change the properties much more than other alterations. Methylating tends to decrease SHBG binding and increases liver production of IGF-1. Of course, it also increases oral bioavailability by a huge amount. One other effect of methylation is it increases aromatization if the structure is susceptible.

UnrealMachine said:
In practice, the PH "tren" does seem relatively similar to real tren (relative to other PH right), but it's still not the same.

Real tren is the stuff Gods are made out of
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Sounds kind of like "baby" tren. If I could get my hands on real legit tren, I would be taking it for sure.
 
It has been 15 days since I have taken my last dose of trenadrol. Today being my last day of PCT, I took measurements and found all to be the same as they were on my last day of trenadrol except I have gained 0.25" on my waist, I lost 0.25" on my calves, and I lost 2 pounds of bodyweight, now being 203lbs. I would consider the post-cycle losses to be minimal. My blood pressure and heart rate have come down to pre-cycle status.
 
Ultimate1985 said:
It has been 15 days since I have taken my last dose of trenadrol. Today being my last day of PCT, I took measurements and found all to be the same as they were on my last day of trenadrol except I have gained 0.25" on my waist, I lost 0.25" on my calves, and I lost 2 pounds of bodyweight, now being 203lbs. I would consider the post-cycle losses to be minimal. My blood pressure and heart rate have come down to pre-cycle status.
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why only 15 days of pct?
 
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