Trauma1's Halo/TST log

Day 28


Weight:216.5lbs(no change)


Total weight gain(8.5lbs)



Today was bi's/tri's. All I can say is strength is definately up again this week. My 125lbs bb curls felt like 50lbs today......it was AWESOME. I would say I was able to increase my poundages by an average of 5-10lbs from last week on most exercises. I was kind of disappointed at the lack of strength increases on this cycle until the last 2 weeks as they've now become very apparent. Endurance has also been very good and seems to increase with each week. Still no real sides to report....some acne, but that's about it. I did have painful pumps at the beginning of the workout, but they seemed to pass as it went on with some stretching. I can tell you i'm completely shot after today's workout. I have increased the halodrol dosage to 100mg/day for the last few days. I plan on taking the halo up until friday then starting megazol with the TST for 1 more week. I may not reach my goal of 220lbs on this cycle, but I've learned what a great recomp/lean bulk cycle this is. I couldn't be happier with the results to this point. Libido still good, and still have all my hair :D My wife told me last night i've lost alot of bodyfat in the last 4 weeks. Maybe I can squeeze out a few more pounds before the week ends and then maintain what I've got. I also checked b/p today 113/68 with resting pule of 60bpm.
 
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yes when I did my last recomp cycle I didn't really bother to look at weight gain as opposed to the mirror. The scale isn't always the greatest indicator when recomping but as I'm sure you can tell those 8.5lbs of muscle minues the fat make a world of difference. imo clean lbs always make a much bigger impact visually than "dirty" lbs.
 
mixedup said:
yes when I did my last recomp cycle I didn't really bother to look at weight gain as opposed to the mirror. The scale isn't always the greatest indicator when recomping but as I'm sure you can tell those 8.5lbs of muscle minues the fat make a world of difference. imo clean lbs always make a much bigger impact visually than "dirty" lbs.
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Well said my man. I agree there is no substitute for the mirror....sometimes that damn scale lies I tell ya :D
 
Great Log bro!!! Listen I'm debating about doing your stack starting with the TST first like you advised. Or starting with the TST first and ending it with Superdrol. Blane has a log in the bioscience forum and he also had great results. So my question to you trauma is two fold.

Have you ever taken Superdrol? And if so, of the two proposed cycles which one would you suggest?

By the way whats your weight right now, are you closing in on 220?
 
I'm really glad you are doing this cycle and logging it. I am planning on a TST/HMax cycle after the 4th of July, with a low to low-moderate dose of T4 to aid in nutrient partitioning and recomp effects.
 
nice gains mang, you look like you throw some serious metal around. Hows your BP and do you notice you cant eat enough on the halo?
 
gten79 said:
Great Log bro!!! Listen I'm debating about doing your stack starting with the TST first like you advised. Or starting with the TST first and ending it with Superdrol. Blane has a log in the bioscience forum and he also had great results. So my question to you trauma is two fold.

Have you ever taken Superdrol? And if so, of the two proposed cycles which one would you suggest?

By the way whats your weight right now, are you closing in
on 220?
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Thanks bro. Now to answer you questions. I honestly think that you should start initially with the TST fot the first week then add the halo in week 2 running a total of 5 weeks. I actually wish I did it this way, but results still have been great. As far as superdrol goes, i've never used it, but have many bottles on hand. I plan on using it later this winter for a fall/winter bulk. My advice would be this. If you want to cut up nicely and add some lean muscle mass go with Halo/TST no doubt. I've your want to bulk up and add some good strength go with Superdrol/TST. I can tell ya I've seriously had minimal side effects being an occasional headache and some acne on this cycle.....not bad. Whatever you choose good luck and keep me updated :thumbsup:
 
jrkarp said:
I'm really glad you are doing this cycle and logging it. I am planning on a TST/HMax cycle after the 4th of July, with a low to low-moderate dose of T4 to aid in nutrient partitioning and recomp effects.
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Sounds like a great cycle. Adding in the T4 will surely magnify the recomp even more so.......I think your results will be awesome. Best of luck with the cycle.
 
somewhatgifted said:
nice gains mang, you look like you throw some serious metal around. Hows your BP and do you notice you cant eat enough on the halo?
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Thanks my man :D As far as BP goes I checked it yesterday and was 113/68 with resting pulse of 60bpm. Actually BP has been pretty good and responding nicely to the celery seed extract. I had a few readings early on in the first week that were elevated, but have been normal since. As far as eating goes it's day to day. Some days like yesterday i want to eat everything i see, other days i have to force myself to eat....kinda strange. I will say since adding the TST my appetite has noteably improved. The one thing about halo i've discovered is like you said in prior posts......i think it is underdosed in people over 200lbs and I responded much better at 75mg/day. I also think that it needs to be adjusted on cycle like I have done......the gains do stall after some time. I've bumped it up to 100mg/day now for 3 days and i can say i feel the effects by FAR the most since bumping to 100mg.
 
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Thanks bro. Now to answer you questions. I honestly think that you should start initially with the TST fot the first week then add the halo in week 2 running a total of 5 weeks. I actually wish I did it this way, but results still have been great. As far as superdrol goes, i've never used it, but have many bottles on hand. I plan on using it later this winter for a fall/winter bulk. My advice would be this. If you want to cut up nicely and add some lean muscle mass go with Halo/TST no doubt. I've your want to bulk up and add some good strength go with Superdrol/TST. I can tell ya I've seriously had minimal side effects being an occasional headache and some acne on this cycle.....not bad. Whatever you choose good luck and keep me updated :thumbsup:
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Thanks for the prompt response. So if I'm reading what you are saying correctly this is what you are suggesting right?

Methoxy-TST weeks (1-4) 4,4,6,6
Halodrol weeks (2-5) 50,75,75,100
 
gten79 said:
Thanks for the prompt response. So if I'm reading what you are saying correctly this is what you are suggesting right?

Methoxy-TST weeks (1-4) 4,4,6,6
Halodrol weeks (2-5) 50,75,75,100
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Yeah looks good, but one question....how much do you weigh? Adjusting the halo in my opinion is going to depend mainly on your weight. For example I started out at 208lbs......now 216.5. I didn't get much from 50mg, but really started feeling it at 75mg. Some people have had really good results at just 50mg. I suggest you start low and adjust dosage as you see fit. You'll be able to tell if the gains stall and need to alter the dose a bit. Best of luck with the cycle and let me know if i can help in anyway.
 
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Yeah looks good, but one question....how much do you weigh? Adjusting the halo in my opinion is going to depend mainly on your weight. For example I started out at 208lbs......now 216.5. I didn't get much from 50mg, but really started feeling it at 75mg. Some people have had really good results at just 50mg. I suggest you start low and adjust dosage as you see fit. You'll be able to tell if the gains stall and need to alter the dose a bit. Best of luck with the cycle and let me know if i can help in anyway.
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I'm weigh 197 so I'll just play it by ear like you said.
 
Day 29


Didn't weigh in today


Today was shoulders. First off I want to say that it appears since increasing the halo to 100mg/day that the strength gains have seriously kicked in. The past few days have noted some impressive strength improvements. I banged out 90lb overhead DB presses today for a solid 8 reps....beats my previous best of 85lbs for 8 reps. Also I feel an increase in androgenic sides over the past few days.....aggression is definately up, but very tolerable. By nature i'm not a very aggressive person so i definately notice it. I have been mildly lethargic over the past few days with restless sleeping.....probably the result of bumping the halo dosage to 100mg. I'm going to take lean dreams tonight as that always does the trick for me. Appetite has been good for the past week. I still don't seem to be holding much water at this point, maybe a little but not much. Painful pumps returned today also, but seriously hasn't hampered my training that much. A little stretching goes a long way. For some reason though my delts by far give me the worst problem with the painful pump issue. Libido still good, although not elevated like it was. I'll weigh in again tomorrow.
 
Hey-
I appreciate the info. I am stacking Halo/TST and have set up either a cycle that goes Halodrol- 50 mg, 75 mg, 100 mg, 100 mg, 75 mg and then finally week 6 50 MG (5 days) TST- would be 6 MG, 8 MG, 10 MG, 10 MG, 8 MG, 8 MG, and 5 days of 6 MG with an addition of Mega-Zol for 2 weeks for the round-out finish. What do you think?
 
Quick question: how do you recc upping the halo dose if you just have the tablets? i weigh 215, so though i might benefit from using 75-100 instead, but is it a good idea to try and break that tablets in half??

also, i only have one box from the original batch, so id have to buy a new box to do it..is it a bad idea to mix batches??
 
ICEBERG said:
Hey-
I appreciate the info. I am stacking Halo/TST and have set up either a cycle that goes Halodrol- 50 mg, 75 mg, 100 mg, 100 mg, 75 mg and then finally week 6 50 MG (5 days) TST- would be 6 MG, 8 MG, 10 MG, 10 MG, 8 MG, 8 MG, and 5 days of 6 MG with an addition of Mega-Zol for 2 weeks for the round-out finish. What do you think?
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iceberg do you think it's necessearry to go 10mg on the tst 6mg is the highest i've seen so far I don't think i've seen 8mg yet.
 
I weigh 230- the tablets are scored so you can just cut them in 1/2. IMO it doesn't matter if you mix boxes. Its' still the same thing right? I may just go with 100 MG and but I did like Trauma's advice for moving the dosage up slowly as necessary to get the most benefits.
 
I know I am kind of wondering that myself...but the TST is non methylated and there is a low risk factor. So, I thought I would give it a whirl. My concern is oversaturation but I am moving slowly like the H-50 with this.
 
ya, they different batches are basically the same thing, but there are all the unresolved(as far as i know) rumors about the first batch containing slightly different ingredients..
 
The only difference I heard is in the packaging. The store I buy the H-50 from has been my provider since 1996 for everything and they make sure that they are being true to their customers. I would not worry about it. In fact- there is nothing we can do anyways. Inside Marketing always rules the roost and these issues always come up to either help sell another companys product or lead the consumer to another "new and improved" product that tops the trend.
 
ICEBERG said:
Hey-
I appreciate the info. I am stacking Halo/TST and have set up either a cycle that goes Halodrol- 50 mg, 75 mg, 100 mg, 100 mg, 75 mg and then finally week 6 50 MG (5 days) TST- would be 6 MG, 8 MG, 10 MG, 10 MG, 8 MG, 8 MG, and 5 days of 6 MG with an addition of Mega-Zol for 2 weeks for the round-out finish. What do you think?
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Hey bro.......I think it looks like a pretty good stack. I have debated myself at increasing the TST to 8mg for the last week or so. Once again I would start low and see how you respond to it. I feel I have a pretty good grip on halo and how to titrate at this point. For me it's unreal the difference even between 75mg/day and 100mg/day. I've responded WAY better at 100mg/day and this week the gains in size and strength are incredible. It looks good, but start low and be safe.
 
schlam_of said:
Quick question: how do you recc upping the halo dose if you just have the tablets? i weigh 215, so though i might benefit from using 75-100 instead, but is it a good idea to try and break that tablets in half??

also, i only have one box from the original batch, so id have to buy a new box to do it..is it a bad idea to mix batches??
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Just split the scored tabs in half and take your doses at timed intervals throughout the day. It's important to keep a stable constant hormone level for the product to be very effective. I also always take my Halo/TST with my EFA'S to increase absorbtion.
 
DAY 32


Weight:217.5lbs(+1lb)


Total weight gain: (9.5lbs)


Hey everyone, had a crazy week at work and haven't been able to update for a few days, but i'm back. Today was chest day. I had another kick ass workout today. My chest has always been a bodypart that i seem to plateau at and have a hard time bumping up the weights...... but not today! If you can believe it I was able to add 30lbs to my previous best on incline press today.....unreal. As I've stated in previous posts it's absolutely amazing the results I'm getting this week since increasing the Halo. While it is tough to tell which compound has really kicked it up a notch, I can say that the synergy between the two is excellent. The TST defiantely has an impact at maintaining elevated libido.....I always notice about an hour after I take it that my libido raises very rapidly. As far as sides go, really not much to report. The first few days of bumping up the Halo i did notice increased retlessness with sleep and painful pumps got worse....but honestly over the past two days they have gone away. Along with the great strength increases this week my endurance has also improved significantly.....I feel like I can train all day without getting fatigued. Appetite continues to be pretty good.....some days better than others though. I will maintain the Halo at 100mg/day for now and may bump TST to 8mg/day. Overall everything is great and i feel great. Lethargy does come and go, but it's very tolerable to me. I'm very very pleased with results to this point, and even better is the minimal sides. I'll probably update again sunday or monday....it's going to be a long weekend at work I have a feeling :(
 
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Hey Trauma,
I am up to 8 MG TST and I have been flying in the gym. Pumps have been amazing. Doing reps 20-30 for 2 weeks then reps 12-15 for 1 week and vice versa. I see a lot of post where people are doing reps of 8-10 or even as low as 4-6. I was performing reps of 12, 10, 8, 6-8, 6 for a long time and seemed to plateau. Now with this new program I get the best of both worlds as the fast twitch fibers and slow twitch fibers get shocked and the muscle is totally worked. Amazing pumps and vascularity like I have never seen before. Sure, I would get good pumps with the lower rep program but nowhere near what happens now. What do you find best works for you?
 
ICEBERG said:
Hey Trauma,
I am up to 8 MG TST and I have been flying in the gym. Pumps have been amazing. Doing reps 20-30 for 2 weeks then reps 12-15 for 1 week and vice versa. I see a lot of post where people are doing reps of 8-10 or even as low as 4-6. I was performing reps of 12, 10, 8, 6-8, 6 for a long time and seemed to plateau. Now with this new program I get the best of both worlds as the fast twitch fibers and slow twitch fibers get shocked and the muscle is totally worked. Amazing pumps and vascularity like I have never seen before. Sure, I would get good pumps with the lower rep program but nowhere near what happens now. What do you find best works for you?
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I actually did bump my TST up to 8mg/day today. I've always been a 6-8 rep range guy, but i definately mix it up on occasion.....I totally agree that the pumps are truely amazing. I personally love the increased training endurance that does allow you to completely fatigue the muscle worked hitting it from all angles....gotta love the Halo/TST combo!
 
Yeah Halo and TST rocks! I had a killer Arm workout today. It just gets better and better- can't wait to go to 100 MG and then 10 mg with the TST.
 
DAY 35


Weight:219.5(+2lbs)


Total weight gain:11.5lbs


Well I'm 0.5lbs away from my goal of hitting 220lbs at this point with a few days left of the cycle.......very pleased with what i've accomplished. Today was bi's/tri's and had best workout to date of cycle.....strength was awesome today. It's interesting how the strength gains were slow to start but blew up in week 5. Pumps continue to be very good and feel great overall. Still no sides other than some shrinkage, but still not that bad. The best part about this cycle is that every week it just gets better....and then truely explodes. I have about 3 maybe 4 days left on cycle before I start pct. I will take pics on my last day on and then again after pct. Muscles continue to maintain hardness with minor water retention at this point. Stamina also continues to get better daily....never want to leave the gym. Anyways, I will update again my last day on with my final weigh in before pct......all i can say is this has been an absolutely great stack and i'm glad i invested in Halo/TST for future cycles.
 
Way to go Man! I am just in the middle of week 2- Halo-75 MG, TST 8 MG. How does 100 MG feel on the H-50?
 
ICEBERG said:
Way to go Man! I am just in the middle of week 2- Halo-75 MG, TST 8 MG. How does 100 MG feel on the H-50?
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Well I by far felt the greatest response when i bumped to 100mg/day.......much better strength gains. Overall at 100mg I noted much better gains/strength with minimal increase in sides.....however titrating the dose slowly I think is the way to go.
 
I agree. I have seen good things with 75 mg, and I start 100 MG tomorrow. How about TST? How high did you go with that? I am going to 10 MG tomorrow also.
 
ICEBERG said:
I agree. I have seen good things with 75 mg, and I start 100 MG tomorrow. How about TST? How high did you go with that? I am going to 10 MG tomorrow also.
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I had the TST at 6mg up until this past week when I bumped up to 8mg/day.....I was getting a great response at 6mg combined with the halo........there is no doubt in my mind that TST definately adds good synergy to this cycle. The most notable is increased libido from my standpoint.....also I definately experience a mild "well being" feeling from time to time since I've added the TST that definatley isn't there with Halo run by itself.
 
Day 40


Weight: 217.5lbs(-2lbs)...think i lost some water weight


Total weight gain: 9.5lbs


Hey everyone. Sorry I haven't posted in a few days but it was the wife's birthday and we went away on a little getaway.....but i'm back. Don't know if I mentioned it before but i mildly pulled a muscle in my trap during shoulders/traps this week....it's a chronic injury that surfaces from time to time, so I had taken 3 days off to rest and feel good today. Today was back and had an awesome workout. All of my weights were up again this week and i'm lovin it.....i really seemed to add alot of strength to my back workouts this cycle.....had a personal best on lat pulldowns today 230lbs for 6 strict reps....awesome. Tomorrow will be my last day on cycle and then i start pct on monday. I have been every pleased with this cycle and the results thus far. I will have new measurements up next week and some new pics also. Overall I still feel fantastic and still no real sides to speak of. I'll update again monday with final weigh in and new stats.
 
Day 44 (post cycle therapy Day 3)


Weight:217.5(no change)


Total weight gain: (9.5lbs)


Today is my 3rd day into post cycle therapy. I will briefly outline my current post cycle therapy

Toremifene:120mg x 3 days, and will titrate over next 4-5 weeks.
Jungle Warefare: 3,3,3,3,3 caps daily
Fenugreek:3,4,5,6,6 caps daily
Retain:3,3,3,2,1 caps daily
Fenotest:4,4,4,4,4 caps daily
PGHT:5 days on 2 days off throughout post cycle therapy
Powerfull:6 caps/day non-workout days, 8 caps/day on workout days
I'm also using Size On, Blitz Cycle, rejuvinex, muscle milk, bcaa, and of course all my prior cycle support.


I have some dermabolics cort-7 to add in if needed which i probably will anyway. I must say that so far the toremifene is really impressing me.....already after 3 days seems my testes are starting to rebound in size. Overall I feel pretty good, not shut down too bad. Libido is definatley down, but was a little better today. Training has remained very good. Still have very good pumps in the gym and strength thus far has maintained very nicely :D I plan on having my wife do new measurements tonight and I should have them posted by the end of the week. Appetite is also still very good and I'm eating like a champ to help maintain those gains. I also checked BP yesterday 123/64 with resting pulse of 62bpm. So far so good and i'll try and get up those pics and new measurements this week.
 
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good stuff
 
Day 48 (PCT day 7)


Just a quick update. I've had a very busy week at home/work. So far everything seems to be going according to plan. I feel good and energy level has been pretty good with all my strength gains maintaining at this point....the only negative side is that i've been emotionally labile this week which is probably the result of my natural hormone levels regulating. I also have had some acne pop up, but now seems to be under control. I have defiantely been sleeping well since adding in the Pght.....having some crazy dreams though. Anyway, hopefully I'll have new measurements up by the end of the week as i'm going to 3 redsox games this week :twisted:I'll update again thursday....GO SOX!!
 
Yeah I was actually having nightmares for a few days.....freaking crazy too. Lately they have just been very vivid and I wake up thinking....wow:blink:
 
I dont remember having nightmares more than normal during pct but the clomid made me quite emotional. The best part of the whole thing was how the halo left me feeling quite happy almost content. I havent been working otut as regularily but am maintaining really well months later. cheers.
 
somewhatgifted said:
I dont remember having nightmares more than normal during post cycle therapy but the clomid made me quite emotional. The best part of the whole thing was how the halo left me feeling quite happy almost content. I havent been working otut as regularily but am maintaining really well months later. cheers.
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I agree that halo was a happy/content time.......definately moody with the toremifene, but it's working great for pct :good:
 
Day 50 (post cycle therapy Day 9)


Weight:218lbs(+0.5 lb)


Total weight gain: 10lbs

Another quick update today. Pct is going very well at this point and has been the best i've had to date. I can't believe how fast the boys have been turned back on and are already back to normal/slightly larger size......this toremifene is great stuff indeed! I'm slowly titrating down the Torm....currently at 90mg/day, but will have it down to 60mg/day starting next week. Energy maintains being very good at this point. My strength is actually still increasing this week, something I surely wasn't expecting but probably have that to thank for getting my natural levels back up to par very quickly. I've been keeping my kcals fairly high and so far everything is maintaining nicely. I couldn't be more pleased with my post cycle therapy at this point. I'll update again at the end of the week......just a side note the crazy dreams i was having have seemed to subside at this point.
 
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Trauma1 said:
Day 50 (post cycle therapy Day 9)


Weight:218lbs(+0.5 lb)


Total weight gain: 10lbs

Another quick update today. Pct is going very well at this point and has been the best i've had to date. I can't believe how fast the boys have been turned back on and are already back to normal/slightly larger size......this toremifene is great stuff indeed! I'm slowly titrating down the Torm....currently at 90mg/day, but will have it down to 60mg/day starting next week. Energy maintains being very good at this point. My strength is actually still increasing this week, something I surely wasn't expecting but probably have that to thank for getting my natural levels back up to par very quickly. I've been keeping my kcals fairly high and so far everything is maintaining nicely. I couldn't be more pleased with my post cycle therapy at this point. I'll update again at the end of the week......just a side note the crazy dreams i was having have seem to subsided at this point.
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Trauma 1 you're the man:bow28:
 
i know this is a little old but do you remember any specific numbers as far as strength increases go? just curious what they were when you upped it to 100.
 
wormwood- When the dosages were at 100 MG- strength soared and weight that I did for 4-6 reps were now done for 10-12 reps.
When that weight became used warm-ups - H-50 was at it's most potent level. Amazing gorging pumps that did not go away for 2-4 hours. I wish I had kept a log but my FYI- Chest, arms, back, shoulders, legs, doubled in size. Sometimes I look in the mirror and cannot believe what I am seeing. Don't get me wrong I was muscular before and had been bodybuilding for about 16 years- but now I look like I could compete with a few more improvements and more time to prep.
 
ICEBERG said:
wormwood- When the dosages were at 100 MG- strength soared and weight that I did for 4-6 reps were now done for 10-12 reps.
When that weight became used warm-ups - H-50 was at it's most potent level. Amazing gorging pumps that did not go away for 2-4 hours. I wish I had kept a log but my FYI- Chest, arms, back, shoulders, legs, doubled in size. Sometimes I look in the mirror and cannot believe what I am seeing. Don't get me wrong I was muscular before and had been bodybuilding for about 16 years- but now I look like I could compete with a few more improvements and more time to prep.
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holy ****. i wish i wouldnt have bought 10 bottles of superdrol and would have spent that money on halo instead.

how much weight did you gain? fatloss as well?
 
I went from 19% BF- January to 10% July 31- to 9.78% August 15.
It's hard to say how much muscle I gained in lbs since I weigh the same as I did when I started. I turned fat and mass into quality lean muscle. I would guess I gained 5 lbs of muscle and lost 1.5 inches off my waist- Halodrol helped give me the "V" and made my muscles rock-hard. Now Zol is doing that.
 
wormwood said:
i know this is a little old but do you remember any specific numbers as far as strength increases go? just curious what they were when you upped it to 100.
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I can say from my standpoint there was a significant difference in the effect of the product once I increased to 100mg/daily. I noted much better strength increases at this dose, but i definately feel that halodrol at 50mg/daily is seriously underdosed for people over 200lbs like myself. It's a great product and one hell of a recomper.
 
I second that. I plan on going to 150-200 MGS next time around. With Mega-H being non-methylated it will only be less risky.
 
ICEBERG said:
I second that. I plan on going to 150-200 MGS next time around. With Mega-H being non-methylated it will only be less risky.
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Just wanted to chime in I checked with a few people and Mega-H is methylated didn't want you to get carried away
 
mixedup said:
Just wanted to chime in I checked with a few people and Mega-H is methylated didn't want you to get carried away
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I'm not quite sure why people thought that mega-h being a halodrol clone was a non-methyl......anyways I myself think that going above 100mgs/day is a little risky. If I could have changed anything from my cycle i would have increased to 100mg/day much sooner. I was very pleased at the results 100mg/day gave me.
 
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