Although everything need is in that stack besides clomid, which is another 30-40$, you will see much better results running test at 250-350mg per week for 12 weeks. It would be way more cost effective as well.Thinking about doing this: https://www.ironmaglabs.com/product/super-1-4-andro-cream-stack/ + adding CLOMID to the PCT
The impression I'm getting is this is his first cycle. I wouldn't suggest Msten if so.Msten is about $40 a bottle so
2 vials of test 90 - 180$ depending on country of origin, AI on hand (may not need it) 30-50$, and clomid 30-40$. So looking at 270 on the high side and 150 on the low side, not including shipping (30-50$). If adding HCG is desired another 30-80$. Blood work can depend on where you live. Easy to google search that. I get mine through my dr since I'm on TRT.This is my first cycle, yes. What about the cost of bloodwork? I’m really curious about what the absolute total cost is. Absolute. Every little cost associated with the cycle. I’m not doing it if it’s exorbitant. Spending in upward of $1000 is not worth it to me for some extra muscle mass.
This is my first cycle, yes. What about the cost of bloodwork? I’m really curious about what the absolute total cost is. Absolute. Every little cost associated with the cycle. I’m not doing it if it’s exorbitant. Spending in upward of $1000 is not worth it to me for some extra muscle mass.
This response deserves an award.I am going to be blunt, this is not for you. You CAN do a cycle for very cheap but IMO, and I don't care what you run even dirt cheap UGL test, doing this CORRECTLY is NOT CHEAP.
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Blood work Pre/During/Post You want to know where you were aka baseline health markers, then you SHOULD know how f**ed up your blood work is during and then you want to know if you have recovered properly so post PCT. This alone depending on where/insurance and so forth could cost 300-1500(through a dr, no insurance labs can be horribly overpriced in certain areas)
Supports: $0 to skys the limit
PH's: $20 a month to skys the limit again
If you do everything correctly you may even need new clothes if you grow enough........
You can cheap out if you want to but all in you could be as low as a few hundred up to once again the skys the limit.
"Spending in upward of $1000 is not worth it to me for some extra muscle mass."
Once you start down this road very few do a one and done. You will spend $1000's for extra muscle once you get going.
Not reallyThis response deserves an award.![]()
Half the things you listed you should already be doing anyways so I wouldn't include those in the cost of a cycle...I am going to be blunt, this is not for you. You CAN do a cycle for very cheap but IMO, and I don't care what you run even dirt cheap UGL test, doing this CORRECTLY is NOT CHEAP.
Food
Gym
Blood work Pre/During/Post You want to know where you were aka baseline health markers, then you SHOULD know how f**ed up your blood work is during and then you want to know if you have recovered properly so post PCT. This alone depending on where/insurance and so forth could cost 300-1500(through a dr, no insurance labs can be horribly overpriced in certain areas)
Supports: $0 to skys the limit
PH's: $20 a month to skys the limit again
If you do everything correctly you may even need new clothes if you grow enough........
You can cheap out if you want to but all in you could be as low as a few hundred up to once again the skys the limit.
"Spending in upward of $1000 is not worth it to me for some extra muscle mass."
Once you start down this road very few do a one and done. You will spend $1000's for extra muscle once you get going.
And if you run a 1 bottle cycle of msten with nothing else your build like 2-3 lbs of muscle if, put on another 10lbs of intracellular weight that's just going to disappear the second the cycle ends. Then after your cycle with no PCT you're going to 100% lose that 2 to 3 lb along with it and if you're testosterone stays low you're going to start going backwards in the other direction.Msten is about $40 a bottle so
I agree with thisThere's a big difference between setting up a real cycle and buying a single bottle of prohormones
I thought you were gonna get pissed off and send Dylan after meI agree with this
Half the things you listed you should already be doing anyways so I wouldn't include those in the cost of a cycle...
Those pins only cost about 10-12 dollars here too, it's the shipping that usually gets meI agree but he mentioned adding in the cost of labwork and based on the questions being asked and the wording I am NOT going to assume HE is eating 4-6 meals and even training regularly to be honest lol.
I noticed you said about 30 for a box of slin pins and guys if in the US please don't spend that much. PM me if you want but we pay about 12 bucks a box of 28g 1/2in 1cc. VERY FAST delivery from this place and they are not a UG source or anything, reputable health care site.
I do agree OP if you are willing to do the test cycle it will be better in every way sans legality. How much that matters to each individual varies.
Or are you saying $12 shipped LOL cuz that's awesome, there boxes of 100 I get when I get themThose pins only cost about 10-12 dollars here too, it's the shipping that usually gets me
That is 100% TruIf you have to ask how much something cost, that is your conscious telling you that you can not afford it.
Or are you saying $12 shipped LOL cuz that's awesome, there boxes of 100 I get when I get them
