Topic of the Week: You were spoiled by Prohormones

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It seems these days I hear a lot of complaints about results of supplements. Granted, many don't live up to the hype but given the past 10 years and the world of "ph's", are we spoiled by their results and now judge everything by them? We all know you won't get the same results but it seems now everyone wants results within a week or two and if they don't, its no good. Were we all just spoiled by the prohormone era? Has it subconsciously effected how we think going forward? To those who never took prohormones, do you notice a change in attitude by others?

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It seems these days I hear a lot of complaints about results of supplements. Granted, many don't live up to the hype but given the past 10 years and the world of "ph's", are we spoiled by their results and now judge everything by them? We all know you won't get the same results but it seems now everyone wants results within a week or two and if they don't, its no good. Were we all just spoiled by the prohormone era? Has it subconsciously effected how we think going forward? To those who never took prohormones, do you notice a change in attitude by others?
I got on towards the tail end of the golden ph era and was disappointed when I started to realize that’s it’s not how it was for the brief five minutes I caught them. I think the next best shiny object are sarms/peptides/research chems and I’ll admit I still try to find the miracle workers but for the most part suck it up and get on a cycle of juice.
 
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Another perspective could be that the pro hormone era ruined supplement innovation due to caused government intervention.
 
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Another perspective could be that the pro hormone era ruined supplement innovation due to caused government intervention.
Possibly but that was happening long before PH's....the ephedrine ban to start.
 
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Ya, we were spoiled.
It was nice, if you knew what you were doing and researched what you were getting.
The problem is, it was too easy. Way too easy for someone to take something, at any age, that they shouldn’t be taking until they are acutely aware of all the potential risks, side effects, long term effects etc and are old enough.
I don’t like that our government feels the need to always “protect us from ourselves” but at the same time, 15 year olds could walk into a gnc, or punch a cc# online and ship steroids to their house. I like the way it is now. We have to jump through a few hoops and hopefully kids and idiots don’t have as much access to everything.
 
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I wish I would have been more in the know during this period . Although, in high school I was sold some ph with no inkling of an idea what it was. Hell, he probably didn’t even know. Treacherous snakes! Wish I remembered the name now.....but it definitely worked. I got lucky as far as coming back, how many didn’t????
 
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I wish I would have been more in the know during this period . Although, in high school I was sold some ph with no inkling of an idea what it was. Hell, he probably didn’t even know. Treacherous snakes! Wish I remembered the name now.....but it definitely worked. I got lucky as far as coming back, how many didn’t????
Active duty at 23 years old I rocked some 1-AD and of course put 20lbs on.
Then at 26 a coworker referred me to methyl masterdrol (SD) which I of course put 25 solid lbs on again.
I was way too spoiled... I instantly loved it, and it’s probably a big reason I love aas as much as I do.
 
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I remember walking into a supp shop and this high school football player was showing his friends what he was taking and getting them to buy. I coach fball and was thinking my guys dont stand a chance if these are on this stuff. Granted in the long run they had zero clue and probably messed up their HPTA.
 
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The days of $9.99 M1T. Who can compete with that in terms of results AND price...
lol...my favorite was e-form for $15. formestane is something I miss more than the ph's
 
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It seems these days I hear a lot of complaints about results of supplements. Granted, many don't live up to the hype but given the past 10 years and the world of "ph's", are we spoiled by their results and now judge everything by them? We all know you won't get the same results but it seems now everyone wants results within a week or two and if they don't, its no good. Were we all just spoiled by the prohormone era? Has it subconsciously effected how we think going forward? To those who never took prohormones, do you notice a change in attitude by others?

Your thoughts? You can let me have it..lol
I think you are right, in many ways.
Since PH's vanished from the shelf's -no easy fix for dudes who want tits. ;)
 
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And with the old PHs went the OTC pct products that worked, the 6 oxo, ATD, etc.. so when the new generation of PHs came out, there’s nothing legal to fix you after you take it.
 
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Haven't been around in that era but random people buying SD, 1AD, etc. from the shelf's and eating it like it's BCAA's or something just baffles me. It's definitely good that this is over for most of the population. I think aas are readily available if you are set on taking them. Like Matthersby said, jumping through a few hoops prevents the masses from having easy access, which is a good thing.
 
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Haven't been around in that era but random people buying SD, 1AD, etc. from the shelf's and eating it like it's BCAA's or something just baffles me. It's definitely good that this is over for most of the population. I think aas are readily available if you are set on taking them. Like Matthersby said, jumping through a few hoops prevents the masses from having easy access, which is a good thing.
That's the thing that blows my mind when I think about it, how many hundreds or thousands of people took prohormones without knowing what it was because someone at a supplement store suggested them?
I don't think they should be scheduled though.
 
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That's the thing that blows my mind when I think about it, how many hundreds or thousands of people took prohormones without knowing what it was because someone at a supplement store suggested them?
I don't think they should be scheduled though.
I know at least one guy who used “testosterone boosters” from GNC and swears up and down he’s never tried any prohormones. Because back in the day that’s what they sold them as... testosterone boosters. So then dude can’t figure out why nothing now works, “Oh they banned the ingredients, but it wasn’t a prohormone or a steroid”

The real kicker is I even offered to help these dudes find what they had before, all they had to do was tell me the name of the old product they liked.

When I used 1AD nobody knew what any of this stuff was, you just took it, and then you had to stop and take this other stuff. That’s it. And hopefully the guy at the store told you that because not all the bottles said it. And that’s all we went off of. The label.
 
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LOL I mean you do bounce back, even withouth serm's, it just takes longer, so keeping gains was harder I guess.
 
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LOL I mean you do bounce back, even withouth serm's, it just takes longer, so keeping gains was harder I guess.
Well back then the good otc pct type products had 6 oxo or ATD in them and you tapered it off so it worked pretty well actually. There was nothing to try and signal for a restart, but the right hormones were being blocked for sure.
 
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LOL I mean you do bounce back, even withouth serm's, it just takes longer, so keeping gains was harder I guess.

Agreed and the half live's were so short you started recovery fairly quickly.
 
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Comparing anything out now to those original pro hormones just doesn’t equate to much, especially if you consider the price of a bottle of each and results they got you. I’m probably just repeating what everyone else is saying, but hey. Those original prohormones were really just unclassified steroids, so no shock they were better. It’s essentially comparing steroids to natty herbal supps lol.
 
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Me being cheap a$$, you could run 8 week cycle of any oral for max $50. For some reason then most companies seemed actually put actives in their product.
 
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I know at least one guy who used “testosterone boosters” from GNC and swears up and down he’s never tried any prohormones. Because back in the day that’s what they sold them as... testosterone boosters. So then dude can’t figure out why nothing now works, “Oh they banned the ingredients, but it wasn’t a prohormone or a steroid”

The real kicker is I even offered to help these dudes find what they had before, all they had to do was tell me the name of the old product they liked.

When I used 1AD nobody knew what any of this stuff was, you just took it, and then you had to stop and take this other stuff. That’s it. And hopefully the guy at the store told you that because not all the bottles said it. And that’s all we went off of. The label.
Just had this happen at work. Guy says “I used to be jacked to the gills. All natural” and then proceeded to tell me about the great supplements he used to use back in the day which were all prohormones lol.
 
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The good ole days.. I'm spoiled for sure. I started working out in 2004 and 1TU was the first PH i tried and still the best IMO. I have been out of the scene for awhile and dont know if there are any good PHs still on the market but man it use to be some good ones out there.
 
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You can say what you want about the dangers of PH’s, but alcohol is still legal and I’ve lost many, many friends to it. Have yet to lose a friend to steroids and I know a LOT of users.
 
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You can say what you want about the dangers of PH’s, but alcohol is still legal and I’ve lost many, many friends to it. Have yet to lose a friend to steroids and I know a LOT of users.
Never lost a job, lost a relationship, got arrested, got in a fight(well almost), damaged a friendship, hurt my reputation, or set back my progress, from hormone use.
Alcohol is the most destructive force ever introduced to my life.
 
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Def spoiled. From PH, DS to OTC supplies...it was just easy to get literally any thing. I was in college ‘00-‘04 and it blows my mind to what I was able to pick up in a shop.

I am spoiled by today’s flavor systems...I used to choke down some rancid stuff
 

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