Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

[Geoforce]

Why would it not be plausible? It was radical to institute the income tax in the first place. Now its radical to abolish it?

We have to start somewhere....we have things setting in place, for example...my social security statement this year states on the front cover that the system is in trouble and by 2036 people will only get .76 cents to the dollar, and its going to downfall greatly from there on unless big changes take place right away. We should support a system to phase it out, and compensate the people who payed into it.

Also, if we continue the Ron Paul momentum (it should be about the movement, not the man) we can easily budget out all that is spent on income taxes and make a phase out of it work....this of course relies on building the support system for the Campaign for Liberty as well as others.

When you talk about some of these things you have my attention and help. When people ONLY talk about the government being responsible for every disease, death, and destruction in the world it has me laughing. Personally the movement (imo) will have more success when it loses the beyond radical paranoia.

When one talks about structural problems or tax reform you can get people to listen. If you put that in the middle of "government did Sandy Hook, 9/11, OBL isn't dead, government shot Tupac, government killed Kennedy, government caused droughts, government caused Woodstock, government made hurricanes, government did Aurora CO, government did Oklahoma City bombing, government did Nancy Kerrigan's knee" then you're going to lose a lot of rational people who may be able to help out what you say you want.

Anyways, that's how I believe most will look at things. The above just comes off like someone has schizophrenia.

 

[ax1]

When you talk about some of these things you have my attention and help. When people ONLY talk about the government being responsible for every disease, death, and destruction in the world it has me laughing.

Yes Geo...I could have sworn the reason I developed golfers elbow a couple of weeks ago is that the IRS was reading my posts here on anabolicminds and they called in a order to HAARP to zap me with some of that stuff to mess up my training!

j/k

 

[MANotaur]

llc? What is that?

I have to pay more because Im a self proprietor, my medicare and SS are doubled (although I can use that itself as a deduction)...50% in your case is straight out beyond criminal.

Limited Liability Corporation. Ill have to find a few "investors" to own "stock" in my buisness. That way ill only have to pay the 25% capital gains tax and then state taxes instead of tje egregious 39% or whatever the top income bracket is paying nowadays

 

[MANotaur]

35 plus about 3.8% to the fed is what im looking at now


Soooo 38.8% to the fed....yeah...

 

[Geoforce]

I thought the $15 I spent on the Obama Deception was well worth it. Alex Jones while a wild personality has good info.

You said "inside jobs". Which cones from the jnfowars saying "9/11 was an inside job". Which it was. You are a sheep if you believe otherwise.

I just want to get this straight.

You think the United States government was responsible for 9/11 and a whole bunch of other terrible things in this thread it would seem.

In response to that you STILL live in this country AND you talk **** about that very gov't frequently on a public forum?

If I thought the U.S. was responsible for all the **** in this thread on purpose not only would I move to another country, but for the health and safety of my family I wouldn't do anything as crazy as put down a government that did all that stuff on an easily readable public forum. In fact I would keep as low a profile as possible in fear.

So either you don't ACTUALLY believe all this nonsense fully or you're an idiot who is taking a gigantic risk with the safety of yourself and your family. It's not even difficult logic.

 

[ax1]

In response to that you STILL live in this country AND you talk **** about that very gov't frequently on a public forum?

If I thought the U.S. was responsible for all the **** in this thread on purpose not only would I move to another country, but for the health and safety of my family I wouldn't do anything as crazy as put down a government that did all that stuff on an easily readable public forum. In fact I would keep as low a profile as possible in fear.

So either you don't ACTUALLY believe all this nonsense fully or you're an idiot who is taking a gigantic risk with the safety of yourself and your family. It's not even difficult logic.

That would be your choice, and I would respect and understand that. Many people through history are just willing to take all the risks associated with exposing goverment tyranny, and I thank them for that. You may want to stay low to protect the safety of your family, but then there is the risk of doing nothing and risking the future of your family anyways.

 

[ax1]

When one talks about structural problems or tax reform you can get people to listen. If you put that in the middle of "government did Sandy Hook, 9/11, OBL isn't dead, government shot Tupac, government killed Kennedy, government caused droughts, government caused Woodstock, government made hurricanes, government did Aurora CO, government did Oklahoma City bombing, government did Nancy Kerrigan's knee" then you're going to lose a lot of rational people who may be able to help out what you say you want.

Anyways, that's how I believe most will look at things. The above just comes off like someone has schizophrenia.

Hmmm...was re-reading everything and I think I missed this or you edited it in.

Anyways, your pretty much right. I do go all out in this thread, but it definitely helps to use skillful means in real life.

Although around where I live you can talk to at least half the people around about the goverment staging 9/11 and all, its best to stick to structural issues if you dont know people. Policy reform as well as other issues within a realistic reach helps you recruit new people to take you seriously. When asked about coming out with the truth about 9/11, Ron Paul has stated that he wouldnt be able to handle the controversy and he has too many things on his plate such as the Federal Reserve.

 

[Geoforce]

That would be your choice, and I would respect and understand that. Many people through history are just willing to take all the risks associated with exposing goverment tyranny, and I thank them for that. You may want to stay low to protect the safety of your family, but then there is the risk of doing nothing and risking the future of your family anyways.

I just think if anyone was actually believing the government was capable of all the things in this thread they would not post about in on a bodybuilding forum.

Tyranny and corruption exist and always have and I would gladly fight against either. However the risk when one tries to claim every action that happens is the government at work is that people ignore the fighting tyranny and corruption part and focus on the "well all this can't POSSIBLY true part." Which again whether he would admit it or not has to be the conclusion zach thinks because he would not deal with all this information by just going to his job everyday and posting about it on a bodybuilding board if that makes sense. In fact, no rational actor in this thread would do that.

Are some links in this thread correct? Probably so. Are all links? Of course not. Not even remotely plausible. I know you have mentioned before you don't necessarily believe everything you post in here though as this discussion is not new my friend. Rock on.

 

[fightbackhxc]

I just think if anyone was actually believing the government was capable of all the things in this thread they would not post about in on a bodybuilding forum.

Tyranny and corruption exist and always have and I would gladly fight against either. However the risk when one tries to claim every action that happens is the government at work is that people ignore the fighting tyranny and corruption part and focus on the "well all this can't POSSIBLY true part." Which again whether he would admit it or not has to be the conclusion zach thinks because he would not deal with all this information by just going to his job everyday and posting about it on a bodybuilding board if that makes sense. In fact, no rational actor in this thread would do that.

Are some links in this thread correct? Probably so. Are all links? Of course not. Not even remotely plausible. I know you have mentioned before you don't necessarily believe everything you post in here though as this discussion is not new my friend. Rock on.

It's funny because I've talked to numerous veterans who compltetly agree with a lot of the information posted in this thread. I feel they have a better grasp and connection to gov corruption than the average citizen.

 

[Geoforce]

It's funny because I've talked to numerous veterans who compltetly agree with a lot of the information posted in this thread. I feel they have a better grasp and connection to gov corruption than the average citizen.

One always believes exactly what one wants to believe. If someone wants to think the moon landing was faked or other such stuff the internet can confirm whatever bias one wishes to have. I suppose it could be said for my point of view as well, but I'm not the one who must make such logical leaps and somersaults to get to Obama caused Hurricane Sandy. I believe what logic, reason, and rationality tell me is most likely. As a student of history I realize the snake oil peddlers and end of times people have long profited off the fear of men. Always been good money in scaring the **** out of people and always will be. No one wants to think about good things we want to be told what to fear, when to fear, and how to prepare.

Would you like to buy my 29.99 dollar book that can help your family survive? Visit my website daily and you may have a chance before THEY get you. THEY are all working together, all cooperating, all trying to achieve their sick goal. With my help (and your money) we can win. Now the media will deny this and all your friends will to because they don't know. See it's only a collection of us who are privy to this inside information. No one else is aware. THEY want it that way. With my show, site, book, t-shirt, and your money we may have a chance. Now anyone who says otherwise is listening to bias and faulty information controlled by THEY. I'm the only one you can trust. I'm the only one speaking the truth. Everyone else is biased. Teaming together. Don't take a chance reading or listening to someone else. You know you can trust me. I am not biased at all. Trust me. All those guys are. Big time. Total bias. But not me. Just make sure you subscribe. Buy the book. Give the website hits. Be my teammate. I'm not against you like them. I'm WITH you.

However I'm presenting this to someone who is looking towards a super old book and seeing predictions there lined up similar to the current times we live in. Making the same logical and rational mistake of every doomsday prediction that has taken place throughout history. These are actually the best times ever, but like I said one can always confirm what they really want to be true.

A long history of grab your text and children for the time is now. Perhaps you will be correct where so many others have been wrong before. Time will tell, but history is decidedly on my side. This indeed is the worst of all times and the end is coming...it always has been. That silver snaked tongue that caused people to believe Clinton or Reagan is the anti-christ has been replaced by the new leader....until 2016 when we elect the newest person who must finally be bringing in the end. Hopefully you're not like the guy who blew his life savings on Rapture billboards. Hard to buy supplements when bankrupt.

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[ax1]

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Thats fine and dandy but this is just more on running away from specific issues I post in this thread. Just because I want to bring about awareness on weaponized weather science at a certain point in this thread, doesnt mean the landing on the moon was fake, I really believe Obama called in HAARP to launch hurricane Sandy or I follow the stories in the article you posted. This thread is primarily about bringing and questioning real issues and not necessarily being conclusive about everything at the same time. If your reaction is fake landing on the moon and Obama being not just an illegal alien, but an alien from planet k69 instead of addressing each issue one by one your not gonna get much out of here than perhaps a good time trying to knock it which I really dont mind the comedy time to time

I personally think people are sheep that dont question how some hairy smelly near dead kidney failing monkey in a cave plotted 4 airplanes to be hijacked w/ 3 of them crashing into building while jets were scrambling out in the ocean confused as they were running a mock drill for the same scenario at the same time the morning Dick Cheney took control of NORAD while Mr. Cheney is in the bunker giving a stand down order as the plane was approaching the Pentagon which the 9/11 commission omitted the Transportation Secretaries testimony in their book.

Really, the greatest military force in the world and our military is running around stupid over the Atlantic ocean? People that dont question that are sheep. But no I dont accuse those people of believing the fake landing on the moon or the fact that they are the ones running around in fear of Santa Clause in a cave launching terror attacks, I just try to directly question and investigate the facts. I dont discredit by using Cultural Revolution slogans and point to the moon and correlate them to stories from 1,500 years ago.

Maybe the dinosaurs drove trucks and thats the reason glaciers melted, so Obama was right about that and he is the birthchild of a dead Area 51 alien, who knows but that at least proves building 7 collapsed at free fall speed due to some candle fires and we can ignore scientific evidence and stick to the least likely of all hypothesis and swim out in the Atlantic ocean with our military.

 

[Geoforce]

Thats fine and dandy but this is just more on running away from specific issues I post in this thread. Just because I want to bring about awareness on weaponized weather science at a certain point in this thread, doesnt mean the landing on the moon was fake, I really believe Obama called in HAARP to launch hurricane Sandy or I follow the stories in the article you posted. This thread is primarily about bringing and questioning real issues, if your reaction is fake landing on the moon instead of addressing each issue one by one your not gonna get much out of here.

I personally think people are sheep that dont question how some hairy smelly near dead kidney failing monkey in a cave plotted 4 airplanes to be hijacked w/ 3 of them crashing into building while jets were scrambling out in the ocean confused as they were running a mock drill for the same scenario at the same time the morning Dick Cheney took control of NORAD while Mr. Cheney is in the bunker giving a stand down order as the plane was approaching the Pentagon which the 9/11 commission omitted the Transportation Secretaries testimony in their book.

Really, the greatest military force in the world and our military is running around stupid over the Atlantic ocean? People that dont question that are sheep. But no I dont accuse those people of believing the fake landing on the moon or the fact that they are the ones running around in fear of Santa Clause in a cave launching terror attacks, I just try to directly question and investigate the facts. I dont discredit by using Cultural Revolution slogans and point to the moon and correlate them to stories from 1,500 years ago.
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Maybe the dinosaurs drove trucks and thats the reason glaciers melted, so Obama was right about that and he is the birthchild of a dead Area 51 alien, who knows but that at least proves building 7 collapsed at free fall speed due to some candle fires.

Which is fine, I was just pointing out the flaws with confirmation bias. If one wants to believe something evidence can be found for any wacky story or belief. My point was throughout history different civilizations and different religions have preached that the time they live is the end of the world. So far 100% of those predictions have been wrong.

But maybe THIS time will be different. And I was talking about someone else's views, not yours!

 

[ax1]

Which is fine, I was just pointing out the flaws with confirmation bias. If one wants to believe something evidence can be found for any wacky story or belief. My point was throughout history different civilizations and different religions have preached that the time they live is the end of the world. So far 100% of those predictions have been wrong.

But maybe THIS time will be different. And I was talking about someone else's views, not yours!

Yeah....and when it doesnt end the time its supposed to and life caries on as usual, its changed to "We meant, the end of the world as you know it. Things are very different now...." or "Its not what you think, this is just the first stage of a series of steps to the end of the world..., just hold on tight!"

 

[Geoforce]

Yeah....and when it doesnt end the time its supposed to and life caries on as usual, its changed to "We meant, the end of the world as you know it. Things are very different now...." or "Its not what you think, this is just the first stage of a series of steps to the end of the world..., just hold on tight!"

The sky has always been falling and always will be falling. These are the times which are worse than any other time in American history. According to everyone who has ever lived in a previous generation.

 

[fightbackhxc]

The sky has always been falling and always will be falling. These are the times which are worse than any other time in American history. According to everyone who has ever lived in a previous generation.

Do you argue with everyone geoforce? Someone obviously can't posess their own reasoning or opinions. Geez.

 

[Geoforce]

Do you argue with everyone geoforce? Someone obviously can't posess their own reasoning or opinions. Geez.

No in fact I rarely venture into politics or general chat threads because I don't enjoy them. You've just been in two that I happened to participate in recently. And don't we all basically argue with people we have a difference of opinion on?

I have never said someone cannot possess their own reasoning or opinions at all, but when someone lays out something on a public forum and someone presents a different viewpoint I have no idea why one would get angry about that.

You and I see certain things in a different manner on certain topics. I'm sure we agree on many things as well. One should not take offense at a difference of opinion or argument. Isn't the point of threads on here discussion? You can go through my posting history I'm one of the least argumentative people on this forum. I just happened to express opinions in these two gen chat type threads recently.

Frankly, I don't find these types of talks that fun as they usually devolve into personal attacks quickly which is why I avoid most political or religious type threads for the most part.

 

[ax1]

Supreme Court Justice Confirms American Internment Camps Will Happen Again: “It is the Reality”

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While President Obama and Congressional members have made an effort to convince their constituents that the provisions in the National Defense Authorization Act will never be used against citizens of the United States, the fact is that the Invalid Link Removed for the detention, arrest and detainment of Americans without charge or trial.

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In the event of a declared national emergency or war, when fear and panic are running rampant, the President will, without a shadow of a doubt, implement whatever means necessary in order to control the populace and maintain order.

Detainment and interment will be at the top of the Department of Homeland Security’s to-do list.

And if you have any doubts about this possibility then pay close attention to the words of U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia Invalid Link Removed where law students asked the judge about the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II.

Keep in mind that this is coming from one of the people who will be sitting on the panel of judges who decides whether or not such an act is Constitutional:

Well of course Korematsu was wrong. And I think we have repudiated in a later case.
But you are kidding yourself if you think the same thing will not happen again.
That’s what was going on — the panic about the war and the invasion of the Pacific and whatnot. That’s what happens. It was wrong, but I would not be surprised to see it happen again, in time of war.
It’s no justification, but it is the reality.


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The document makes it clear that the policies apply “within U.S. territory” and involve, “DOD support to U.S. civil authorities for domestic emergencies, and for designated law enforcement and other activities,” including “man-made disasters, accidents, terrorist attacks and incidents in the U.S. and its territories.”

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The manual states, “These operations may be performed as domestic civil support operations,” and adds that “The authority to approve resettlement such operations within U.S. territories,” would require a “special exception” to The Posse Comitatus Act, which can be obtained via “the President invoking his executive authority.” The document also makes reference to identifying detainees using their “social security number.”

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Aside from enemy combatants and other classifications of detainees, the manual includes the designation of “civilian internees,” in other words citizens who are detained for, “security reasons, for protection, or because he or she committed an offense against the detaining power.”



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This is happening and a Supreme Court Justice of the United States just confirmed that there will be no stopping it.​

 

[Geoforce]

The Department of Homeland Security will activate their already stocked and staffedFederal Emergency Management Agency refugee camps. We’ve seen these in limited form during major storms like Hurricane Sandy. Those who came to FEMA for help reported that their facilities were like concentration camps.

When people came asking for help they were treated like Jews who died from torture, disease, and gas?

Doesn't sound like hyperbole in the least bit Ax

 

[ax1]

When people came asking for help they were treated like Jews who died from torture, disease, and gas?

Doesn't sound like hyperbole in the least bit Ax

Conditions were probably slightly less intensive than that.

 

[Geoforce]

Conditions were probably slightly less intensive than that.

I know everyone compares everything to Hitler, but I think it's pretty devaluing to what people actually went through to say annoying crap like that. We went to FEMA for help and it was like a concentration camp makes me think that whoever said that doesn't know what the hell a concentration camp is and probably should not be in part of an actual article about the conditions. Sounds like poor journalism in my opinion. I have a neighbor who I love but is highly special needs. You wouldn't interview him about conditions at a place. Not that the guy interviewed was that way, but clearly he has no idea what the **** he is talking about. Sounds like the author was LOOKING for someone to help him make his point and at best he found someone. Not exactly something a good author would do.

I just had to dig my car out of 9 inches of snow in my driveway...so I know exactly what it felt like to be a Japanese citizen in Nagasaki on Aug. 9th, 1945!

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[ax1]

I know everyone compares everything to Hitler, but I think it's pretty devaluing to what people actually went through to say annoying crap like that. We went to FEMA for help and it was like a concentration camp makes me think that whoever said that doesn't know what the hell a concentration camp is and probably should not be in part of an actual article about the conditions. Sounds like poor journalism in my opinion. I have a neighbor who I love but is highly special needs. You wouldn't interview him about conditions at a place. Not that the guy interviewed was that way, but clearly he has no idea what the **** he is talking about. Sounds like the author was LOOKING for someone to help him make his point and at best he found someone. Not exactly something a good author would do.

I just had to dig my car out of 9 inches of snow in my driveway...so I know exactly what it felt like to be a Japanese citizen in Nagasaki on Aug. 9th, 1945!

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They were comparing it to a concentration camp....not "Hitlers" camps.

Its nothing to do with journalism, people get interviewed and have their say. Obviously, your going to get different opinions of the experience, and in journalism you will find bias to selectively find those to fit a certain criteria. Regardless, its still interviews from direct experiences....if you want to know the experience in more detail, this article was sourced from Reuters Invalid Link Removed

I personally think that FEMA should be abolished anyways, anything federal is incompetent and overpriced. Funds should be allocated within the local community or state and contingency plans should be a responsibility of the local governments/people themselves.

 

[Geoforce]

They were comparing it to a concentration camp....not "Hitlers" camps.

Its nothing to do with journalism, people get interviewed and have their say. Obviously, your going to get different opinions of the experience, and in journalism you will find bias to selectively find those to fit a certain criteria. Regardless, its still interviews from direct experiences....if you want to know the experience in more detail, this article was sourced from Reuters Invalid Link Removed

I personally think that FEMA should be abolished anyways, anything federal is incompetent and overpriced. Funds should be allocated within the local community or state and contingency plans should be a responsibility of the local governments/people themselves.

Your thought on FEMA are absolutely fine, they are your opinion after all. What the author is doing is setting out to make sure a piece sounds exactly like how he wants it to sound. It's not even remotely objective nor does it try to be. It's so lazy that it doesn't even TRY to be objective. Even bad journalism often tries to sound like it doesn't have a huge agenda.

There will come a time in America when panic grips the nation. There will be riots, violence, and bloodshed resulting from any number of plausible scenarios like the collapse of our economic and monetary systems.

This right here is ****ty journalism. In fact I wouldn't even call it journalism. It sounds more like preaching. There MAY be a time in America when panic grips the nation. The author may be right. There may be a time in the future with riots, violence, and bloodshed. To speak of this as an absolute certainty is arrogant at best. If I wrote we will have an unspeakable flood that will kill millions in the future I wouldn't expect someone to take me seriously because at best all I'm doing is making a prediction.

It's not journalism, it's an opinion piece disguised as journalism plain and simple. The conspiracy type parts about it don't even bother me in the least bit. The author did a really piss poor job and people should expect more from news sources than this attempt.

This is not news and it should not masquerade as news. The "mainstream media" may be ****ty in many aspects as well and I won't argue that, but this right here is flat out BAD writing. It's an opinion piece put off as fake news Ax. I would expect news people to try and predict the future from time to time. I wouldn't expect them to come off like doomsday preachers saying the end is on the way.

There will be a time when Kansas invades Nebraska. Kansans will use violence against the people of Nebraska. Bloodshed will ensue.

I don't think this will happen, but writing it is exactly what the author did in that sentence. Shoddy work. I could probably agree with much of the piece if it wasn't written like it was by a paranoid schizophrenic.

 

[ax1]

This right here is ****ty journalism. In fact I wouldn't even call it journalism. It sounds more like preaching. There MAY be a time in America when panic grips the nation. The author may be right. There may be a time in the future with riots, violence, and bloodshed. To speak of this as an absolute certainty is arrogant at best. If I wrote we will have an unspeakable flood that will kill millions in the future I wouldn't expect someone to take me seriously because at best all I'm doing is making a prediction.

It's not journalism, it's an opinion piece disguised as journalism plain and simple. The conspiracy type parts about it don't even bother me in the least bit. The author did a really piss poor job and people should expect more from news sources than this attempt.

This is not news and it should not masquerade as news. The "mainstream media" may be ****ty in many aspects as well and I won't argue that, but this right here is flat out BAD writing. It's an opinion piece put off as fake news Ax. I would expect news people to try and predict the future from time to time. I wouldn't expect them to come off like doomsday preachers saying the end is on the way.

There will be a time when Kansas invades Nebraska. Kansans will use violence against the people of Nebraska. Bloodshed will ensue.

I don't think this will happen, but writing it is exactly what the author did in that sentence. Shoddy work. I could probably agree with much of the piece if it wasn't written like it was by a paranoid schizophrenic.

You picked and chose an opinion thrown in the article to discard the rest. Its ok the writer shows his opinion, but whats important is the rest of the content.

The article brings awareness of the abusive goverment powers to arrest and detain Americans without due process which is a direct violation of the Bill of Rights. There will definitely be a time of chaos in America, its not a question of if but when. I personally have no clue when that will be, but it bothers me that people live day to day in total comfort and dont consider the possibilities in life. People dont especially consider the expanding police state powers our Federal Goverment has obtained over the last recent years with the incorporation of science and technology along with a series of unconstitutional laws.

The way Boston was locked down in recent events over two stupid children should be alarming. People getting kicked out of their homes with large guns pointed at their faces and their private lives being ransacked.

When the military has manuals on crushing domestic disturbances and kill Americans it bothers me. When our military is hiring interment specialists for domestic purposes it bothers me. When I meet people who are working at a camp specifically to prepare for a wave of mass chaos it bothers me. Thats why I post articles as I have done today and in the past. They may not be perfect, but much of the information people need to be aware about.

 

[Geoforce]

The Reuters article tells quite a different story. It's amazing what you can do when you take quotes out of context. That person that said that was unemployed. Here is the actual quote. "It's bad to say, but we honestly feel like we're in a concentration camp." Also from the article-

The mini city has no cigarettes, no books, no magazines, no board games, no TVs, and no newspapers or radios. On Friday night, in front of the mess hall, which was serving fried chicken and out-of-the-box, just-add-water potatoes, a child was dancing and dancing — to nothing. "We're starting to lose it," said Decamp. "But we have nowhere else to go."

Isn't it awful that this horrible evil government in a disaster couldn't give the people cigarettes, books, magazines, TV's, etc. Those mother****ing FEMA workers. Have they no heart? I guess all they did was give a place to people without houses to do things like eat. Where were the Xbox 360's? Where were the supermodels? See how horrible government is?! They pretty much JUST gave them food and shelter in the middle of a massive disaster. Such horror. Hell the Jews were the lucky ones AMIRITE?

 

[Geoforce]

You picked and chose an opinion thrown in the article to discard the rest. Its ok the writer shows his opinion, but whats important is the rest of the content.

The article brings awareness of the abusive goverment powers to arrest and detain Americans without due process which is a direct violation of the Bill of Rights. There will definitely be a time of chaos in America, its not a question of if but when. I personally have no clue when that will be, but it bothers me that people live day to day in total comfort and dont consider the possibilities in life. People dont especially consider the expanding police state powers our Federal Goverment has obtained over the last recent years with the incorporation of science and technology along with a series of unconstitutional laws.

The way Boston was locked down in recent events over two stupid children should be alarming. People getting kicked out of their homes with large guns pointed at their faces and their private lives being ransacked.

When the military has manuals on crushing domestic disturbances and kill Americans it bothers me. When our military is hiring interment specialists for domestic purposes it bothers me. When I meet people who are working at a camp specifically to prepare for a wave of mass chaos it bothers me. Thats why I post articles as I have done today and in the past. They may not be perfect, but much of the information people need to be aware about.

The problem is the good information you care about (and me, I don't worship the government either) is sprinkled in complete and absolute nonsense garbage Ax. You can't get rational people to listen to the good information if you surround it by so much irrational opinion. If the goal is to make people informed about what is going on an article like that is one of the poorest ways to do it.

 

[ax1]

The Reuters article tells quite a different story. It's amazing what you can do when you take quotes out of context. That person that said that was unemployed. Here is the actual quote. "It's bad to say, but we honestly feel like we're in a concentration camp." Also from the article-



Isn't it awful that this horrible evil government in a disaster couldn't give the people cigarettes, books, magazines, TV's, etc. Those mother****ing FEMA workers. Have they no heart? I guess all they did was give a place to people without houses to do things like eat. Where were the Xbox 360's? Where were the supermodels? See how horrible government is?! They pretty much JUST gave them food and shelter in the middle of a massive disaster. Such horror. Hell the Jews were the lucky ones AMIRITE?

Well you have a point there, I was thinking the same thing I dont give a crap about peoples toxic habits, lol.

I think its a good example to use in life that you cant depend on goverment to give you what you want. Its also an example that people want more than they need.

You can get different stories and interpretations out of a single interview/experience.

 

[Geoforce]

Well you have a point there, I was thinking the same thing I dont give a crap about peoples toxic habits, lol.

I think its a good example to use in life that you cant depend on goverment to give you what you want. Its also an example that people want more than they need.

You can get different stories out of a single interview/experience.

No you can't depend on the government for everything, but the Reuters article tells A MUCH different story than the one you posted. And it seems like the Reuters articles goal was to inform while the Slavo article was to mislead.

 

[ax1]

The problem is the good information you care about (and me, I don't worship the government either) is sprinkled in complete and absolute nonsense garbage Ax. You can't get rational people to listen to the good information if you surround it by so much irrational opinion. If the goal is to make people informed about what is going on an article like that is one of the poorest ways to do it.

I just think we react differently to these types of articles, I dunno why. I dont think of them as fear mongering the end of the world like you do....and I dont mean that as in your point of interpretation is wrong, we are just different.

 

[Geoforce]

I just think we react differently to these types of articles, I dunno why. I dont think of them as fear mongering the end of the world like you do....and I dont mean that as in your point of interpretation is wrong, we are just different.

Maybe so. You see the scary in the articles (and I do to an extent), and I see the holy hell why would we think that X is going to lead to disaster? It's interesting to say the least.

Some of the things in the Reuters article are sad, but I view them more as I wish the government could have helped those people a bit more in that disaster. You view it as one day the government will do exactly what they want to do to us. I may not be as scared of it as I should be, but at times I feel you may be more scared of it than you should.

What the government did in the Reuters article doesn't sound that bad. It sounds like they tried hard to make a really bad situation a bit better for some people who needed help. It sounds as if at times it didn't go that well, but they weren't setting out to make it bad. They were trying to help people.

 

[ax1]

No you can't depend on the government for everything, but the Reuters article tells A MUCH different story than the one you posted. And it seems like the Reuters articles goal was to inform while the Slavo article was to mislead.

They are two totally different articles, and Slavo referenced it with direct links. All he stated was that there are those who felt they were set up like concentration camps. Salvo was comparing a voluntary recent incident and what it may be like during a National Emergency when people were forced in large amounts to attend these camps. This is the reality of power the goverment has given itself and it needs to be taken away from them (and take them out of power too) and restoring the Bill of Rights.

 

[ax1]

Some of the things in the Reuters article are sad, but I view them more as I wish the government could have helped those people a bit more in that disaster. You view it as one day the government will do exactly what they want to do to us. I may not be as scared of it as I should be, but at times I feel you may be more scared of it than you should.

What the government did in the Reuters article doesn't sound that bad. It sounds like they tried hard to make a really bad situation a bit better for some people who needed help. It sounds as if at times it didn't go that well, but they weren't setting out to make it bad. They were trying to help people.

I may across as if I was scared, the way internet language comes off I certainly may appear scared. Im concerned yes. I live an awesome life and have way more than I deserve.

I feel the more I focus on such large scale impossible to do anything about issues, the happier I am in personal life as I move away from my self-centeredness. I get more confident and expand my sense of fearlessness. Never in my life have I been less fearful of everyday problems as I am today, and I want to continue to build on that.

 

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I may across as if I was scared, the way internet language comes off I certainly may appear scared. Im concerned yes. I live an awesome life and have way more than I deserve.

I feel the more I focus on such large scale impossible to do anything about issues, the happier I am in personal life as I move away from my self-centeredness. I get more confident and expand my sense of fearlessness. Never in my life have I been less fearful of everyday problems as I am today, and I want to continue to build on that.

So you view it as trading fearfulness of everyday problems by focusing on the future? Or am I reading that wrong?

I do agree with you in many respects about the size and scope of the government. I just happen to disagree with you about the "need" for panic on some of that stuff. Does it concern me how the government may act in a wide scale panic type situation? Yes. You know what else concerns me? Thinking how my fellow man would act in these situations. Neither of them seem likely enough to consistently dominate everyday thought. "What if" is a great question to ask...but it should not be asked 24 hours a day. I'm LESS scared of the government in 2014 than I would be of it in 1914. I know some people don't feel that way, but I don't think the government right now is going to force ordinary citizens to go to war via a draft. I don't think it is going to throw Japanese Americans in interment camps. I don't think it is going to force blacks and whites to have separate areas.

I don't view the government as a completely separate entity from me. The government is full of real people. Are there tons of instances where real people in the government have done bad things throughout the history of the U.S.? Absolutely and this will happen in the future. So have ACTUAL citizens of the U.S. Our people have raped, murdered, lied, cheated, stolen, etc. It isn't like the absence of a government creates some society of virtue.

The Reuters article made it seem like the government tried to help people out and ran into some issues with helping people out. Is it perfect? No. Should we hold it accountable? Yes. The main thing I got out of the article was people who were in a horrible natural disaster had someone looking out for them and gave them food and shelter even if both of those things could have been improved on how they were delivered. I think that unemployed person who compared it to a concentration camp probably prefers that to starving in the streets in the middle of hurricane Sandy? Bitching about magazines and books? Are you kidding me? If anything the article shows how entitled people have become.

I know it's "cool" to think about how horrible the present is because the media does nothing but create fear, but I think these are absolutely amazing times we live in. I think we have less reason to panic than at any other time in human history. We are currently more prepared to solve society's issues than ever before. Bad people have always existed in the world and bad people always will. They are FAR FAR FAR outnumbered by the good. It's not even close.

 

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So you view it as trading fearfulness of everyday problems by focusing on the future? Or am I reading that wrong?

I view it moving away from "me, me, me" and moving on to bigger greater issues on a global scale causes a natural reduction in personal negative emotions including fear. This can include focusing on the future, but that future is reliant upon what I see now.

I do agree with you in many respects about the size and scope of the government. I just happen to disagree with you about the "need" for panic on some of that stuff. Does it concern me how the government may act in a wide scale panic type situation? Yes. You know what else concerns me? Thinking how my fellow man would act in these situations. Neither of them seem likely enough to consistently dominate everyday thought. "What if" is a great question to ask...but it should not be asked 24 hours a day. I'm LESS scared of the government in 2014 than I would be of it in 1914. I know some people don't feel that way, but I don't think the government right now is going to force ordinary citizens to go to war via a draft. I don't think it is going to throw Japanese Americans in interment camps. I don't think it is going to force blacks and whites to have separate areas.

I dont think we need to panic, thats not the right action. We need to educate and re-build which is really an endless process. The fact is as soon as you get somewhere its a matter of maintaining, fighting its dismantlement and starting the process all over again when it becomes to toxic to cure.

There may not be a concern of a draft, but why did Obama pass a executive order that allows the military to conquer your home and force you to labor for them? Why would they go through the trouble writing this into law?

I think these interment camps that have been set up are not for WWII style detainment. It is in my own opinion set up in the event of an economic disaster which we all know what can happen, and thats when you get panic. I already have my exit plan because I dont want to really be a part of that. Anyways, interment camps exist, they are being funded by our tax dollars and if you want to work at one the Army website was taking applications not long ago.

I don't view the government as a completely separate entity from me. The government is full of real people. Are there tons of instances where real people in the government have done bad things throughout the history of the U.S.? Absolutely and this will happen in the future. So have ACTUAL citizens of the U.S. Our people have raped, murdered, lied, cheated, stolen, etc. It isn't like the absence of a government creates some society of virtue.

Im not an anarchist, so I agree with you.

The Reuters article made it seem like the government tried to help people out and ran into some issues with helping people out. Is it perfect? No. Should we hold it accountable? Yes. The main thing I got out of the article was people who were in a horrible natural disaster had someone looking out for them and gave them food and shelter even if both of those things could have been improved on how they were delivered. I think that unemployed person who compared it to a concentration camp probably prefers that to starving in the streets in the middle of hurricane Sandy? Bitching about magazines and books? Are you kidding me? If anything the article shows how entitled people have become.

Well, if we dont have protein shakes, grilled chicken salad with dressing on the side, adequate weights, coffee with a small amount of cream and splenda, Im bringing hell !!!

I know it's "cool" to think about how horrible the present is because the media does nothing but create fear, but I think these are absolutely amazing times we live in. I think we have less reason to panic than at any other time in human history. We are currently more prepared to solve society's issues than ever before. Bad people have always existed in the world and bad people always will. They are FAR FAR FAR outnumbered by the good. It's not even close.

How one perceives the present is depends on who's shoes your wearing. Media create's fear, but especially does goverment on the most maximal level (terrorism, keeping us safe by eliminating your privacy and molesting you, etc...). Goverment (well this regime) are the main fear-monger's. Media especially on TV is showbiz for ugly people such as the Presidential puppet show they ran the other day.

Any other time in human history we didnt have the capacity to blow the earth up. We have a whole different set of obstacles to over come which includes the buildup of a scientific dictatorship, but on a positive note we have tools currently at our disposal for communication and large scale movement w/ the internet. History can be our teacher, but we must innovate the way we educate and fight our revolutions.

 

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Jesse Ventura: I move around in Mexico so drones can't find me

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The Verge

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Former Minnesota governor and pro wrestler Jesse Ventura is currently on the press circuit around the launch of his talk show Off the Grid, but only from an undisclosed location in Mexico, safe from the prying camera-eyes of drones. "I'm off the grid," he said in anInvalid Link Removed yesterday. "I move about with my TV show so that the drones can't find me, and that you won't know exactly where I am as long as we have solar power and we can reach the satellite." He ignored questions from host Kelly Evans about whether the answer was "a hoax" and how he could describe himself as off the grid if he was on the internet.



Former Minnesota governor and pro wrestler Jesse Ventura is currently on the press circuit around the launch of his talk show Off the Grid, but only from an undisclosed location in Mexico, safe from the prying camera-eyes of drones. "I'm off the grid," he said in anInvalid Link Removed yesterday. "I move about with my TV show so that the drones can't find me, and that you won't know exactly where I am as long as we have solar power and we can reach the satellite." He ignored questions from host Kelly Evans about whether the answer was "a hoax" and how he could describe himself as off the grid if he was on the internet.

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Ventura's show — whose guest stars have so far included former Presidential candidate Ron Paul and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones — is supposedly filmed primarily in the Baja Peninsula, but unlike fellow conspiratorial expatriate John McAfee, Ventura hasn't given anyone cause to launch an international manhunt that might reveal his precise location.

Ventura, a longtime independent, used his appearance on CNBC to decry increasing income inequality in America at the hands of both Democratic and Republican politicians. He has hinted at a run for the presidency in 2016.

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Tic Toc Tic Toc.....

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[MANotaur]

Tic Toc Tic Toc.....

Serious?? Theres another one??

 

[ax1]

Serious?? Theres another one??

Yup....you saw it here first! lol

And the P stands for Prescott!

He is son of Jeb Bush and running for Texas Land Commissioner which is actually a very strong position which also overseas Federal land.

He has access to millions of dollars along with being an insider which of course buys/gets you power quickly in this country.

Here is a picture of him as a little boy being groomed to be someone some day,

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[AE14]

Yup....you saw it here first! lol And the P stands for Prescott! He is son of Jeb Bush and running for Texas Land Commissioner which is actually a very strong position which also overseas Federal land. He has access to millions of dollars along with being an insider which of course buys/gets you power quickly in this country. Here is a picture of him as a little boy being groomed to be someone some day,

Ahhh the Bush legacy continues. Can't imagine why the P would stand for Prescott?

 

[ax1]

Ahhh the Bush legacy continues. Can't imagine why the P would stand for Prescott?

Not sure if you were asking a serious question, but regardless Prescott would be his great grandfather.

GPW is very young, he has alot of time to get to the top, assuming he wants that of course.

I was just reading how he (GPW) trained to be an intelligence officer for the Navy Reserve in 07. He claims his inspiration to join service was attending the launch of his grandpa's aircraft carrier that was named after him, lol.

He also served in Operation Enduring Freedom (I feel like throwing up typing that, lol) for less than a year under a different name for his safety, not even those near him knew who he really was. I would like to know what his tasks were during this time period.

 

[AE14]

Not sure if you were asking a serious question, but regardless Prescott would be his great grandfather. GPW is very young, he has alot of time to get to the top, assuming he wants that of course. I was just reading how he (GPW) trained to be an intelligence officer for the Navy Reserve in 07. He claims his inspiration to join service was attending the launch of his grandpa's aircraft carrier that was named after him, lol. He also served in Operation Enduring Freedom (I feel like throwing up typing that, lol) for less than a year under a different name for his safety, not even those near him knew who he really was. I would like to know what his tasks were during this time period.

I asked the question a little tongue in cheek.

I doubt we will know what he did while in service.

 

[ax1]

lol!

Chevron Gives Residents Near Fracking Explosion Free Pizza

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After a Chevron hydraulic fracturing well exploded in rural Dunkard Township, Pennsylvania, last Tuesday, and burned for four days straight, the energy company knew just the way to soothe nearby residents: Invalid Link Removed.

"It felt like a huge slap in the face," the resident, who wished to remain anonymous due to Chevron’s major presence in the area, says. "A pizza coupon? I mean come on!"

William Kuis, 61, is a retired coal miner who lives about three miles from the well that exploded. He did not receive a pizza coupon.

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‘There’s something wrong at the FBI’: Maddow Urges Release of Boston Bombing Autopsy Report

Questions surrounding mysterious death of alleged Boston bomber acquaintance pile up

Infowars.com
February 26, 2014

Most people wouldn’t consider MSNBC host Rachel Maddow a conspiracy theorist.

The liberal-left poster child and Rhodes scholar often belittles so-called “9/11 truthers,” people who think the Sandy Hook school shooting was a staged event and people who believe the government is stockpiling ammunition.

But there’s one pesky detail concerning the Boston Marathon bombing Maddow just can’t get her head around: the mysterious circumstances behind the death of 27-year-old Ibragim Todashev at the hands of the FBI during questioning, an incident that has all the makings of a government cover-up.



In a segment last night discussing the ridiculousness of a report which found that every FBI shooting since 1993, about 150 of them, has been “deemed justified,” Maddow questioned if the agency investigating itself might not be such a good idea.

“The fact is that no one else really reviews FBI shootings other than the FBI itself, other than this internal review board. They’re federal agents, right? Nobody prosecutes them for shooting people, nobody looks into their shootings except the FBI itself. And unless you believe in the ‘perfect angels’ theory of FBI agent bullets, you better believe there’s something wrong at the FBI.

Even when games are rigged they don’t go 150 and 0. That’s not a real record. That’s not actually found in nature. Nobody is supposed to be above the law in this country, even the FBI, and there is something wrong, something obviously wrong with the way we are handling FBI shootings if every one ever reviewed in the last 20 years has been ruled ‘justified.’”​

Maddow also found it strange that the FBI blocked the release of Todashev’s autopsy report, and that Todashev’s girlfriend and two friends were all “quickly deported or kept out of this country” after his death, people who could otherwise “conceivably talk about it or shed light on what happened.”

Todashev’s death really bugs Maddow. Like most Americans, she’s reluctant to accept the government purposely murders innocent people then rushes to cover it up. Yet this is, and has always been, the standard modus operandi.

The MSNBC host hopes against all odds, however, that Obama’s recent appointee as head of FBI, James Comey, who she says has a reputation for “doing what’s right,” and Attorney General Eric Holder, whose notorious reputation precedes him, will release the full report on Todashev’s death.

Is the liberal host off on a jag on this issue because she knows people are tuning out the lame-stream dinosaur media in droves? In 2013, MSNBC saw its ratings fall by nearly half, losing as many as 45 percent of its viewers. Have multiple segments on the subject been produced in a desperate attempt to ingratiate MSNBC to an information-hungry public and appear as though they actually question the government?

If you can stomach it, here’s a few of Maddow’s past conspiratorial segments aimed at getting to the bottom of the inexplicable FBI killing.

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[ax1]

The further we stay away from the Ukraine the better.

Why does this broke country waste our tax dollars to fly Skull and Bones John Kerry to Ukraine to give another broke country a multi billion dollar paycheck?

My heart goes out to the Ukrainian people, but this country need not, and cannot afford intervene in foreign affairs.

 

[ax1]

Hidden Motives Behind the Ukraine-Russia Conflict

Gas Wars: The untold story driving the crisis

Paul Joseph Watson
March 4, 2014

The untold story behind the crisis is that this is an energy tug of war being fought between Russia and the west, with Ukraine caught in the middle.

 

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Propaganda Rules The News

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March 6, 2014

Gerald Celente calls the Western media “presstitutes,” an ingenuous term that I often use. Presstitutes sell themselves to Washington for access and government sources and to keep their jobs. Ever since the corrupt Clinton regime permitted the concentration of the US media, there has been no journalistic independence in the United States except for some Internet sites.

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Glenn Greenwald points out the independence that RT, a Russian media organization, permits Abby Martin who denounced Russia’s alleged invasion of Ukraine, compared to the fates of Phil Donahue (MSNBC) and Peter Arnett (NBC), both of whom were fired for expressing opposition to the Bush regime’s illegal attack on Iraq. The fact that Donahue had NBC’s highest rated program did not give him journalistic independence. Anyone who speaks the truth in the American print or TV media or on NPR is immediately fired.

Russia’s RT seems actually to believe and observe the values that Americans profess but do not honor.

I agree with Greenwald. You can read his article here:Invalid Link Removed Greenwald is entirely admirable. He has intelligence, integrity, and courage. He is one of the brave to whom my just published book, How America Was Lost, is dedicated. As for RT’s Abby Martin, I admire her and have been a guest on her program a number of times.

My criticism of Greenwald and Martin has nothing to do with their integrity or their character. I doubt the claims that Abby Martin grandstanded on “Russia’s invasion of Ukraine” in order to boost her chances of moving into the more lucrative “mainstream media.” My point is quite different. Even Abby Martin and Greenwald, both of whom bring us much light, cannot fully escape Western propaganda.

For example, Martin’s denunciation of Russia for “invading” Ukraine is based on Western propaganda that Russia sent 16,000 troops to occupy Crimea. The fact of the matter is that those 16,000 Russian troops have been in Crimea since the 1990s. Under the Russian-Ukrainian agreement, Russia has the right to base 25,000 troops in Crimea.

Apparently, neither Abby Martin nor Glenn Greenwald, two intelligent and aware people, knew this fact. Washington’s propaganda is so pervasive that two of our best reporters were victimized by it.

As I have written several times in my columns, Washington organized the coup in Ukraine in order to promote its world hegemony by capturing Ukraine for NATO and putting US missile bases on Russia’s border in order to degrade Russia’s nuclear deterrent and force Russia to accept Washington’s hegemony.
Russia has done nothing but respond in a very low-key way to a major strategic threat orchestrated by Washington.

It is not only Martin and Greenwald who have fallen under Washington’s propaganda. They are joined by Patrick J. Buchanan. Pat’s column calling on readers to “resist the war party on Crimea” opens with Washington’s propagandistic claim: “With Vladimir Putin’s dispatch of Russian Troops into Crimea.” Invalid Link RemovedNo such dispatch has occurred. Putin has been granted authority by the Russian Duma to send troops to Ukraine, but Putin has stated publicly that sending troops would be a last resort to protect Crimean Russians from invasions by the ultra-nationalist neo-nazis who stole Washington’s coup and established themselves as the power in Kiev and western Ukraine.

So, here we have three of the smartest and most independent journalists of our time, and all three are under the impression created by Western propaganda that Russia has invaded Ukraine.

It appears that the power of Washington’s propaganda is so great that not even the best and most independent journalists can escape its influence.
What chance does truth have when Abby Martin gets kudos from Glenn Greenwald for denouncing Russia for an alleged “invasion” that has not taken place, and when independent Pat Buchanan opens his column dissenting from the blame-Russia-crowd by accepting that an invasion has taken place?

The entire story that the presstitutes have told about the Ukraine is a propaganda production. The presstitutes told us that the deposed president, Viktor Yanukovych, ordered snipers to shoot protesters. On the basis of these false reports, Washington’s stooges, who comprise the existing non-government in Kiev, have issued arrest orders for Yanukovych and intend for him to be tried in an international court. In an intercepted telephone call between EU foreign affairs minister Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign affairs minister Urmas Paet who had just returned from Kiev, Paet reports: “There is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovych, but it was somebody from the new coalition.” Paet goes on to report that “all the evidence shows that the people who were killed by snipers from both sides, among policemen and then people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides . . . and it’s really disturbing that now the new coalition, that they don’t want to investigate what exactly happened.”

Ashton, absorbed with EU plans to guide reforms in Ukraine and to prepare the way for the IMF to gain control over economic policy, was not particularly pleased to hear Paet’s report that the killings were an orchestrated provocation. You can listen to the conversation between Paet and Ashton here: Invalid Link Removed

What has happened in Ukraine is that Washington plotted against and overthrew an elected legitimate government and then lost control to neo-nazis who are threatening the large Russian population in southern and eastern Ukraine, provinces that formerly were part of Russia. These threatened Russians have appealed for Russia’s help, and just like the Russians in South Ossetia, they will receive Russia’s help.

The Obama regime and its presstitutes will continue to lie about everything.

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Hell yeah! We can come out of our bunker now just in time to get back in, AJ is a fear monger. Who many times are people going to fall for all his hot air? I'm not saying that we live in a world full of puppy dogs and kittens but damn... And yes, at some point he'll be correct just because of the Law of Averages.

I only suggest take some time and write down what he says will happen and when, you'll be sadly disappointed

 

[ax1]

Hell yeah! We can come out of our bunker now just in time to get back in, AJ is a fear monger. Who many times are people going to fall for all his hot air? I'm not saying that we live in a world full of puppy dogs and kittens but damn... And yes, at some point he'll be correct just because of the Law of Averages.

I only suggest take some time and write down what he says will happen and when, you'll be sadly disappointed

Firstly, AJ is just 1 little guy in the market. Second, I have been listening to him for a long time and Im actually impressed with the way he runs his operation. Most of the stuff happening now he was one of the few in media talking about it a decade ago. Its nothing to do with making psychic predictions and beating law of averages, he puts forward evidence such as laws passing, puts guests from the inside that cant go to places such as CNN, and uses many other references to support his points. He is not a fear mongerer at all, I dont understand why people are scared. He is actually a funny guy.

 

[ax1]

Quote of the day:

"Putin is not a threat to our national security, Barrack Obama is."

And now for some positive news.....

See no evil: inside one city's quest to kill its surveillance program

Oakland could set the standard for what cities collect and share

By Matt Stroud on March 6, 2014
The Verge

A city council meeting in Oakland, California started routinely around 5:30 on Tuesday evening with rubber stamped appointments, discussion of a community park report card, and a no-parking zone, among other things. But this was no ordinary council meeting. Nearly eight hours after it began, the city’s elected officials reached a major decision — one that’s arguably the strongest statement against bulk surveillance of any city in the country since 9/11.

The subject of that heated meeting was the proposed Domain Awareness Center (DAC). It's a controversial mass-surveillance system similar to programs in New York, Boston, and Los Angeles that would funnel data from public and private sensors and camera feeds into one central information center.

The opposition to DAC on Tuesday was blatant and striking, bordering on disrespectful in many cases. (One speaker told the council that DAC's capabilities were "beyond your understanding," before going further: "You don't understand the technology, and it seems you don't understand the law.") Out of over 100 speakers who spoke during the public comment section of Tuesday evening’s council meeting, not one spoke in DAC's favor.

""Cities have a choice.""

But the opposition worked. The bulk of the DAC capabilities were struck down in the council vote, which means Oakland’s elected officials potentially put millions in federal funding at risk and became the first major US city to take an official stand against bulk surveillance. Though the city’s decision is considered imperfect by many local activists, it establishes Oakland as a model for other cities interested in limiting what they amass and share with the federal government.

"Hopefully this will show other cities that they don't need to collect all this information," says Brian Hofer, a spokesperson for the Oakland Privacy Working Group, which opposes DAC. "They have a choice."

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Can We Afford Ukraine?

Ron Paul
March 10, 2014

Officially, US debt stands at more than $17 trillion. In reality, it is many times more. The cost of the US invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq may be more than six trillion dollars. President Obama’s illegal invasion of Libya cost at least a billion dollars and left that country devastated. The costs of US regime change efforts in Syria are likely thus far enormous, both in dollars and lives. That’s still a secret.



So who in his right mind would think it is a good time to start a war with Russia over Ukraine? And worse, who would commit the United States to bail out a Ukraine that will need at least $35 billion to survive the year?

Who? The president and Congress, backed by the neocons and the so-called humanitarian interventionists!

The House voted overwhelmingly last week to provide $1 billion in loan guarantees to Ukraine. That is just the beginning, you can be sure. But let’s be clear: this is not money for the population of that impoverished country. The Administration is sending a billion dollars from US taxpayers to wealthy international bankers who hold Ukrainian debt. It is an international bank bailout, not aid to Ukrainians. And despite the escalating anti-Russia rhetoric, ironically some of that money will likely go to Russia for Ukraine’s two billion dollar unpaid gas bill!

So what happened in Ukraine? The US government and media claims that the US must save Ukrainian democracy from an invading Russian army that is threatening the country’s sovereignty. But in reality the crisis was instigated in part by US meddling. Remember the intercepted telephone call in which two senior Obama Administration officials discussed plans to replace the elected government in Ukraine with US puppets? That is exactly what happened. Is that not a violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty? Is that what democracy is all about?

The Obama Administration’s policy toward Ukraine is hypocritical. The overthrow of the government in Kiev by violent street protests was called a triumph of democracy, but when the elected parliament in autonomous Crimea voted last week to hold a referendum to decide its future, President Obama condemned it as a violation of international law. What about the principle of self-determination, which is also enshrined in international law?

I have long thought that a referendum to reorganize Ukraine into a looser confederation of regions might help reduce tensions. I still believe this could help, but it seems the US government is not so enthusiastic about democracy when there is a chance for an outcome it opposes.

I strongly believe that Crimeans have every right to transfer sovereignty over their peninsula to Russia if they wish. The only question that remains is whether there will there be an honest election, and I don’t see any reason there can’t be.

The US government tells the rest of the world, “We want you to be good democrats and have elections,” but if they don’t elect the right people then we complain about it and throw them out, like we did in Egypt. In Crimea they want to have an election to determine their future. President Obama condemned those plans for a vote by saying, “We are well beyond the days when borders can be redrawn over the heads of democratic leaders.” Does he not remember that the authorities in Kiev were installed just weeks ago after a US-backed coup against the Ukrainian constitution?

Congress next week will likely vote for sanctions against Russia. Though many mistakenly believe that sanctions are a relatively harmless way of forcing foreign countries to do what we say, we should be clear: sanctions are an act of war.

Cooler heads in the United States are not currently prevailing. There is a danger of an unimaginable conflict between the US and Russia. We must demand a shift away from a war footing, away from incendiary rhetoric. We are broke and cannot afford to “buy” Ukraine. We certainly cannot afford another war, especially with Russia!