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Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

HAMP: Homeland Security’s Research Project on Hurricane Modification

Melissa Melton

October 30, 2012

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While arguments are still being thrown out regarding whether or not the U.S. government uses Invalid Link Removed to steer storms like Hurricane Sandy, further evidence shows the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has been engaged in research to do just that for years.

In 2008, an article in New Scientist discussed a new Invalid Link Removed that funded research into guiding and directing the intensity of hurricanes.

Citing Hurricane Katrina as the basis for the project, the Invalid Link Removed) worked with Invalid Link Removed veteran Joe Golden and a panel of other experts “to test the effects of aerosols on the structure and intensity of hurricanes.” HAMP was funded under contract HSHQDC-09-C-00064 at a taxpayer price tag of $64.1 million.

In 2009, Richard Spinrad, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA) assistant administrator for the Office of Oceanic and Atmospheric Research (OAR), sent then DHS Program Manager for Advanced Research Projects Agency (HSARPA) William Laska an Invalid Link Removed regarding OAR’s review of a “Statement for Work” for HAMP.

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While OAR recognizes that weather modification, in general, is occurring through the funding of private enterprises, NOAA does not support research that entails efforts to modify hurricanes,” Spinrad wrote.

He then went on to list all the reasons Project Stormfury was discontinued, including the inability to separate the difference in hurricane behavior when human intervention is present versus nature’s inherent unpredictability overall. Spinrad also noted that any collaboration with DHS must occur within NOAA’s mission (which Spinrad and NOAA obviously felt HAMP did not do).

NOAA houses the National Hurricane Center, the primary U.S. organization responsible for tracking and predicting hurricanes.

Note that even Spinrad admits the existence of weather modification programs as if its general, accepted knowledge. Although DHS was turned down, the agency Invalid Link Removed with their research without NOAA’s participation.

A paper co-written by several participants in the HAMP project including Joe Golden entitled, “Invalid Link Removed,” was released in the July 2012 Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society. In conclusion, the authors wrote, “We recommend that hurricane reconnaissance and research airplanes are equipped with aerosol and cloud physics instruments and fly patterns that will allow such measurements.” Drone use in “areas where safety concerns preclude aircraft measurements” was also called for.

The Invalid Link Removed into the air, otherwise known by the monicker “chemtrails,” is promoted under the guise of geoengineering with a surface excuse to halt global warming. The practice has been openly called for more and more recently, although the chemtrail phenomenon has already been reported across the globe for years now. In the Environmental Research Letters journal, scientists’ most recent geoengineering proposal detailed an “affordable” $5 billion project wherein airplanes will spray sulfur particles in the atmosphere to cool the planet.

In Invalid Link Removed, authors concluded, “Pollution aerosols reduced the cloud drop size and suppressed the warm rain forming processes in the external spiral cloud bands of the storms.” It was also mentioned, “During the past decade it was found that aerosols (including anthropogenic ones) substantially affect cloud microphysics,” proving deliberate chemtrailing has been occurring for at least the past ten years.

Though the paper was labeled “final report,” further journal articles regarding HAMP have been released, and the HAMP project was reportedly not scheduled to end until 2016.

The question remains: With its bizarre combination of elements, was deliberate manipulation through HAMP research at play in Hurricane Sandy?
 
I'm pretty small government, but the Alex Jones Obama causing the Hurricane type stuff has me rolling my eyeballs clean out of my skull. Exactly what event do these people believe is not caused by the government? World Series results? Sun rising? Aunt getting pregnant? A sneeze?
 
Geoforce said:
I'm pretty small government, but the Alex Jones Obama causing the Hurricane type stuff has me rolling my eyeballs clean out of my skull. Exactly what event do these people believe is not caused by the government? World Series results? Sun rising? Aunt getting pregnant? A sneeze?

My recent cold is as a result of the Obama administration...which is why I must vote Romney. :rolleyes:
 
I'm pretty small government, but the Alex Jones Obama causing the Hurricane type stuff has me rolling my eyeballs clean out of my skull. Exactly what event do these people believe is not caused by the government? World Series results? Sun rising? Aunt getting pregnant? A sneeze?

I was a part of a major snow storm in Beijing China several years ago, and the government over there admitted it was their weather manipulating projects/experiments that went went wrong.

Anyways, I dont believe Obama had anything to do with the Hurricane (although speculation should always be on the table,) but I have no doubts about powerful weather modification technologies.

In regards to this specific crisis, both candidates will not let a crisis go to waste.
 
In regards to this specific crisis, both candidates will not let a crisis go to waste.

Of course not, we have an election to win and the way they handle this is probably the last real potential impactful event. That said the Alex Jones of the world lose me with the Obama hurricane talk or the staged Aurora shooting. For some people every event that has ever happened happened because of the government, and these people are lunatics to me.
 
Of course not, we have an election to win and the way they handle this is probably the last real potential impactful event. That said the Alex Jones of the world lose me with the Obama hurricane talk or the staged Aurora shooting. For some people every event that has ever happened happened because of the government, and these people are lunatics to me.

There was never any statement saying it was Obama, and Aurora is another issue that brings many unanswered questions.

Not every event is because of government, that's why Ive never stated everything is because of government. Instead I choose specific topics and deal with them individually. Ive been doing this for years, everybody reacts differently its all good.
 
There was never any statement saying it was Obama, and Aurora is another issue that brings many unanswered questions.

Not every event is because of government, that's way Ive never stated everything is because of government. Instead I choose specific topics and deal with them individually. Ive been doing this for years, everybody reacts differently its all good.

No I believe it was the shooter was drugged or something by the UN with Obama's help or something according to him. A theory that at best was pulled directly out of his ass. The idea that these murders are staged is demeaning to the families of the victims and to rational thinkers everywhere. The way it appears to work is wait for event to happen, then somehow try and link it back to the government no matter what the event was. I'm not talking about you as it doesn't seem as if you are the author of much of this and it is all good....but a lot of the conspiracy stuff is pretty laughable imo even if I consider myself a conspiracy guy on some stuff.

Anyone can believe what they want though.
 
No I believe it was the shooter was drugged or something by the UN with Obama's help or something according to him. A theory that at best was pulled directly out of his ass. The idea that these murders are staged is demeaning to the families of the victims and to rational thinkers everywhere. The way it appears to work is wait for event to happen, then somehow try and link it back to the government no matter what the event was. I'm not talking about you as it doesn't seem as if you are the author of much of this and it is all good....but a lot of the conspiracy stuff is pretty laughable imo even if I consider myself a conspiracy guy on some stuff.

We dont know what all the families think, and some of the victims that were there reported multiple shooters and other bizarre stories that were totally ignored by the media. With 9/11 for example, there are families of victims that perished as well as ground zero witnesses that to this day are calling for answers because they believe government involvement. The word "demeaning" can be established 2 sides depending on the victims and their families personal point of view based on their own beliefs on what happened that day.
 
We dont know what all the families think, and some of the victims that were there reported multiple shooters and other bizarre stories that were totally ignored by the media. With 9/11 for example, there are families of victims that perished as well as ground zero witnesses that to this day are calling for answers because they believe government involvement. The word "demeaning" can be established 2 sides depending on the victims and their families personal point of view based on their own beliefs on what happened that day.

I would say the idea that Obama and the UN drugged James Holmes and gave him a gun was a pretty bizarre story almost totally ignored by the media. I just can't imagine the level of paranoid schizophrenia one must have to buy "Obama causes Hurricane to shift course mere months after drugging and arming gunman in Colorado with help from the U.N." Most powerful man in the world indeed, and I'm no fan of the President!

Then again some people say I'm crazy for not believing in God so to each their own.
 
Anyone can believe what they want though.

Just want to make a note on this remark, I actually dont want anybody to really "believe."

I like and want others to use skepticism, questioning, free thinking, and open mindedness. To believe and to conclude thwarts thinking. People will have different levels of bias, ego, and lean towards a degree of conclusiveness, thats fine we are after all human, but it needs to be in check.
 
I would say the idea that Obama and the UN drugged James Holmes and gave him a gun was a pretty bizarre story almost totally ignored by the media. I just can't imagine the level of paranoid schizophrenia one must have to buy "Obama causes Hurricane to shift course mere months after drugging and arming gunman in Colorado with help from the U.N." Most powerful man in the world indeed, and I'm no fan of the President!

Then again some people say I'm crazy for not believing in God so to each their own.

Its all good, I can see what your saying. Im just from a different culture I guess, lol

Your not crazy for not believing in God. I personally just smile at people who tell me that, and tell them I respect them for their beliefs and ask them to do the same. I usually get the "I dont want to see you go to hell" remark.
 
Evidently there is more to Benghazi which is going to be released soon. More damn that the WH gave the stand down. Get ready for president Romney.
 
Evidently there is more to Benghazi which is going to be released soon. More damn that the WH gave the stand down. Get ready for president Romney.

Facebook is censoring Navy Seals "Special Operations Speaks PAC (SOS)" exposing that Obama denied backup in Benghazi. I have to look into that more and find out if it was a genuine post.

I still dont think this is going to effect the election much, at least with Obama supporters I deal with who insist on defending him at all costs and blaming others for all his faults. I do think the right thing to do is arrest Obama for war crimes.
 
Facebook is censoring Navy Seals "Special Operations Speaks PAC (SOS)" exposing that Obama denied backup in Benghazi. I have to look into that more and find out if it was a genuine post.

I still dont think this is going to effect the election much, at least with Obama supporters I deal with who insist on defending him at all costs and blaming others for all his faults. I do think the right thing to do is arrest Obama for war crimes.

The problem is most Americans simply don't care. We re-elected Bush after he went into a country on a lie after all. We should have arrested him and we should arrest the President. We just don't care about foreign policy anymore. The poor fight our wars for us and we can all stay in comfort knowing we won't be drafted or anything like that. Outta sight outta mind.
 
I'm pretty small government, but the Alex Jones Obama causing the Hurricane type stuff has me rolling my eyeballs clean out of my skull. Exactly what event do these people believe is not caused by the government? World Series results? Sun rising? Aunt getting pregnant? A sneeze?

Well according to Assad... it was Iran and Syria that caused Hurricane Sandy...


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Well according to Assad... it was Iran and Syria that caused Hurricane Sandy...


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I doubt Iran has any significant weather modulating technologies unless Russia sold it to them, which I doubt.

The USA would be able to detect and most likely pinpoint who, what and where is using the technologies. Im sure they would do something about it if so especially since it violates the Convention on the "Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques" which was signed back in 1977 in Geneva.

Yes, people accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist for bringing up these issues, but the United Nations took the same issues I get funny looks for very seriously decades ago.

Article 1
Each State Party to this Convention undertakes not to engage in military or any other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects as the means of destruction, damage or injury to any other State Party.


Article 2
It is the understanding of the Committee that the following examples are illustrative of phenomena that could be caused by the use of environmental modification techniques as defined in Article II of the Convention: earthquakes, tsunamis; an upset in the ecological balance of a region; changes in weather patterns (clouds, precipitation, cyclones of various types and tornadic storms); changes in climate patterns; changes in ocean currents; changes in the state of the ozone layer; and changes in the state of the ionosphere.

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I doubt Iran has any significant weather modulating technologies unless Russia sold it to them, which I doubt.

The USA would be able to detect and most likely pinpoint who, what and where is using the technologies. Im sure they would do something about it if so especially since it violates the Convention on the "Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques" which was signed back in 1977 in Geneva.

Yes, people accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist for bringing up these issues, but the United Nations took the same issues I get funny looks for very seriously decades ago.

Article 1
Each State Party to this Convention undertakes not to engage in military or any other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects as the means of destruction, damage or injury to any other State Party.

Article 2It is the understanding of the Committee that the following examples are illustrative of phenomena that could be caused by the use of environmental modification techniques as defined in Article II of the Convention: earthquakes, tsunamis; an upset in the ecological balance of a region; changes in weather patterns (clouds, precipitation, cyclones of various types and tornadic storms); changes in climate patterns; changes in ocean currents; changes in the state of the ozone layer; and changes in the state of the ionosphere.

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I was just joking and thought it was funny assad said that.
 
I was just joking and thought it was funny assad said that.

To be honest I was really freaking laughing when I was reading about those loons. I was just going on in my own rant, lol been thinking about this alot today.

Before I hit that link I was actually thinking they thought they achieved this with prayer.

I think the primary reason is to give propaganda to the pro-government forces and citizens to boost moral to keep fighting, thats just my guess.
 
To be honest I was really freaking laughing when I was reading about those loons. I was just going on in my own rant, lol been thinking about this alot today.

Before I hit that link I was actually thinking they thought they achieved this with prayer.

I think the primary reason is to give propaganda to the pro-government forces and citizens to boost moral to keep fighting, thats just my guess.

Isn't it well established Hurricane Katrina was caused by gay people ;) :)
 
whew, what a relief not another depressing regular post. I grit my teeth when I see this in the subscribed threads, wondering what horrific reminder of how we're getting ****ed by our government is next
 
Cool youtube video.

I actually didnt dig that video, there were some inadequacies there.

For starters there is no mention of Stanly Dunham's CIA history.

Also, I dont believe that was Obama's father.

It appears that Ann slept with her fetish porn photographer Frank Marshall Davis who is a communist author, and on the FBI watch list. Ann's father was at risk of loosing his job should word get out about the father of his future grandson being a communist being heavily watched by the FBI (He was to be arrested immediately should USA go to war with the USSR.) Obama notes his mentor "Frank" in his own autobiography. The marriage with the Kenyan was all a coverup (he was an exchange student in Hawaii and had a wife and kids at home,) reasoning he never had a father in his life...at least thats not what we are told.

Here are pics of what allegedly are Obama's mom. I can post more but Im not really into humiliating Obama in this way. The American people do need to know their presidents past and affiliations and it appears Frank Marshall Davis was a mentor of Obama.

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Ax....you know I love you and all....but the CIA stuff is getting out of hand. You spout this as if you have proof of it. Even if they were CIA, that proof will not be out there.
 
Ax....you know I love you and all....but the CIA stuff is getting out of hand. You spout this as if you have proof of it. Even if they were CIA, that proof will not be out there.

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Most of the Obama conspiracy theories in one place. Saw this on FB. I have no idea how accurate any of this is.
 
Ax....you know I love you and all....but the CIA stuff is getting out of hand. You spout this as if you have proof of it. Even if they were CIA, that proof will not be out there.

Its ok, lol I know I get into the controversial area. As I always state, I dont conclude on anything I say, and if people are interested in what I post to please dig deeper (and not simply blow off as "theory") into the clues and further the questions, if interested of course :) Investigative journalism along with detective work is an important part of our society.

Officially we can state that Stanley Dunham 9th Air Force in Britain and France before and after D-day. He is officially a "furniture salesman"

We do have this picture of Stanley Dunham with 2 Navy personnel in Hawaii welcoming Barack Obama "Sr" for the US Governments and CIA's funded Airlift Africa project where "Sr." first came over to the states as an exchange student.

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The project was funded to educate potential politicians in Africa (basically indoctrination) at a time where USA's "Democracy," as well "Communism" (my friend from Eritrea was given communist propaganda in the 60's and told me books such as Chairman Mao's famous Red Book were liberally handed out for free for example) were competing in Africa to propagate their own views and agendas.

There was a FBI file on Stanley but the claim is that it was destroyed in a fire in 1997. Its possible he was being surveillanced along with many other CIA officials by FBI director J. Edgar Hoover in the 1950's.

There is a bit more, but this is something that people can look into if they are interested in Obama's family background and their histories.
His father's stay in Buruit where he studies French are worth looking into, and his mother's work in Indonesia as well as her marriage with here Exxon genocidalist husband Lolo Soetoro are interesting as well.

I dunno, whatever the case is, Obama's first priority in office (even though it was a time of financial collapse) was to sign Executive order 1
3489 so its naturally for people to want to know what he is so desperately hiding. If people think these are "conspiracy theories" rather than investigative journalism, then there is no such thing as journalism at all.



THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
January 21, 2009
EXECUTIVE ORDER 13489 - - - - - - -
PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS


By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to establish policies and procedures governing the assertion of executive privilege by incumbent and former Presidents in connection with the release of Presidential records by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) pursuant to the Presidential Records Act of 1978, it is hereby ordered as follows: Section 1. Definitions. For purposes of this order:

  • (a) "Archivist" refers to the Archivist of the United States or his designee. (b) "NARA" refers to the National Archives and Records Administration.
    (c) "Presidential Records Act" refers to the Presidential Records Act, 44 U.S.C. 2201-2207.
    (d) "NARA regulations" refers to the NARA regulations implementing the Presidential Records Act, 36 C.F.R. Part 1270.
    (e) "Presidential records" refers to those documentary materials maintained by NARA pursuant to the Presidential Records Act, including Vice Presidential records.
    (f) "Former President" refers to the former President during whose term or terms of office particular Presidential records were created.
    (g) A "substantial question of executive privilege" exists if NARA's disclosure of Presidential records might impair national security (including the conduct of foreign relations), law enforcement, or the deliberative processes of the executive branch.
    (h) A "final court order" is a court order from which no appeal may be taken.
Sec. 2. Notice of Intent to Disclose Presidential Records................
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Most of the Obama conspiracy theories in one place. Saw this on FB. I have no idea how accurate any of this is.

That is a hilarious chart, lol gotta love the "Pervert" section.
 
That is a hilarious chart, lol gotta love the "Pervert" section.

Yeah, I haven't really looked at it and I'll be honest I haven't followed many of the presidential conspiracies.

My favorite is the adventures on mars and Obama is a lizard stuff.
 
Yeah, I haven't really looked at it and I'll be honest I haven't followed many of the presidential conspiracies.

My favorite is the adventures on mars and Obama is a lizard stuff.

Yeah, whats most important is the policies. I just have a personal hobby, I think Obama's background is very fascinating we will never know for sure anything which makes it even more interesting for me.

I can actually run into my local Starbucks and people will tell me they think the government is primarily run by descendants of Anunnaki. Believe me, the way people respond to me on the forum, I think I double that to the people I run into at Starbucks lol.
 
Ax....you know I love you and all....but the CIA stuff is getting out of hand. You spout this as if you have proof of it. Even if they were CIA, that proof will not be out there.

After 80 something pages of wackiness, you're now starting to figure this out? Lol. :) This area of the forum is like comedy central for politics.
 
After 80 something pages of wackiness, you're now starting to figure this out? Lol. :) This area of the forum is like comedy central for politics.

What happened to your CNN buddy Amber Lyon? Why did they bully her around threatening to rid her of her health care and then firing her for wanting to cover the mass genocide in Bahrain instead they wanted to force her to ignore it and choose to feed society Iran propaganda.

We have an CNN insider here reporting that CNN, you know the one with the "well educated journalists" basically is run by Joseph Goebbels like censorship. The fact is at CNN, when you go to work and check your hat and coat, you also have to check your opinion. CNN is the perfect wax model if you wanted to see how "wackiness" looks like.

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What happened to your CNN buddy Amber Lyon? Why did they bully her around threatening to rid her of her health care and then firing her for wanting to cover the mass genocide in Bahrain instead they wanted to force her to ignore it and choose to feed society Iran propaganda.

We have an CNN insider here reporting that CNN, you know the one with the "well educated journalists" basically is run by Joseph Goebbels like censorship. The fact is at CNN, when you go to work and check your hat and coat, you also have to check your opinion.

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Now you're starting to get it. But keep posting that Alex Jones stuff...it's riveting.
 
I gotta call all my homies and tell them about my gainzzzz

If you vote for him, he will give you much more than just a phone. Rumor is they are giving out Kindle Fire's if he wins this election. All you have to do in exchange is accept that Obama will sign an executive order that will let your supermarket cashier fondle your testicle's and bomb swab check your anus when you check out because we need better security at our supermarkets. He will give you more trust me Invalid Link Removed
 
If you vote for him, he will give you much more than just a phone. Rumor is they are giving out Kindle Fire's if he wins this election. All you have to do in exchange is accept that Obama will sign an executive order that will let your supermarket cashier fondle your testicle's and bomb swab check your anus when you check out because we need better security at our supermarkets. He will give you more trust me :)


I read that. It was reported by Alex Jones from his grandmother's basement. After graduating high school he briefly (one semester) attended Austin Community College...real genius. I kid.
 
ax1 said:
If you vote for him, he will give you much more than just a phone. Rumor is they are giving out Kindle Fire's if he wins this election. All you have to do in exchange is accept that Obama will sign an executive order that will let your supermarket cashier fondle your testicle's and bomb swab check your anus when you check out because we need better security at our supermarkets. He will give you more trust me

aaaaand they won't even ask for my I.D.!!!
 
I read that. It was reported by Alex Jones from his grandmother's basement. After graduating high school he briefly (one semester) attended Austin Community College...real genius. I kid.

And isnt it amazing how when our fully educated college accredited journalists get bullied around, harassed then fired by your corporate buddies at CNN for trying to do their job have a place to go to tell their story and be interviewed for millions of people to hear her side of the story?

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And isnt it amazing how when our fully educated college accredited journalists get bullied around, harassed then fired for trying to do their job have a place to go to tell their story and be interviewed for millions of people to hear her side of the story?

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Wow, you managed to find a picture that someone other than Amber Lynn captioned...awesome.
 
I read that. It was reported by Alex Jones from his grandmother's basement. After graduating high school he briefly (one semester) attended Austin Community College...real genius. I kid.

I believe Obama's lizard alien grandparents caused a hurricane that kept him from enrolling in the second semester. I might have that wrong ;)
 
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