yea thats wut I meant, after Im FULLY done with PCT and sometime after that, not directly after...but it all depends on how I look. Ive also been researching Clen...:twisted:I don't believe I would do all that!! You're gonna run it 3 weeks now, then again after PCT?! It is hormonal even if it is somewhat mild. Doesn't mean it's skittles dude. I would wait until after PCT and do a run of it. It'll give you something to enhance your workouts beyond PCT. But MMV2 is NOT a natty substance Tom.