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Toco-8 Proven to Regrow Hair

Alpine said:
Any studies or anything other than the one cited in your promo?

Dont get me wrong, Im not attacking your product. Im genuinely interested... but skeptical.
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As far as tocotrienols and hair loss, thats it for now, but I bet we will see more in the near future.

-Pp
 
This has probably been asked before, but I've been wondering, why is it exactly that you've decided to produce your product as a powder as opposed to capsules?
 
Matt Skiba said:
This has probably been asked before, but I've been wondering, why is it exactly that you've decided to produce your product as a powder as opposed to capsules?
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The main reason we decided to go powder is simply for product experience. We thought the toco-8 had an interesting and pleasant texture/taste when taken orally, so we really didn’t see a need to cap the product. Plus its water soluble, so it mixes well with just about any beverage.

-Pp
 
I just drop the dose in my mouth, then take a drink of water, mix it up - down the hatch it goes. The taste isn't horrible - It reminds me of something, but I can't figure out what exactly yet.
 
Just a quick side question -- if DHT is thought to inhibit estrogen, how is it that hair loss (DHT-related) AND gyno (Estrogen-Related) come paired together in hormonal altering AAS? (or even just in a normal human with both conditions?)
 
Red Dog said:
Just a quick side question -- if DHT is thought to inhibit estrogen, how is it that hair loss (DHT-related) AND gyno (Estrogen-Related) come paired together in hormonal altering anabolic steroids? (or even just in a normal human with both conditions?)
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By different pathways.

AAS users have many times T levels in their blood, end up with high E and high DHT by simple conversion.

In hypogonadal men, high aromatase causes high E, which causes the body to produce higher DHT to combat the effects. Person ends up with low T. Lowering aromatase often lowers E, raises T and lowers DHT.
 
Red Dog said:
Just a quick side question -- if DHT is thought to inhibit estrogen, how is it that hair loss (DHT-related) AND gyno (Estrogen-Related) come paired together in hormonal altering anabolic steroids? (or even just in a normal human with both conditions?)
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DHT antagonizes the effects of estrogen, rather than actually reducing the total level of estrogen.

High levels of steroids (ie testosterone) can cause DHT related hair loss and estrogen related gyno because both hormones are excessively high. But generally, you’re either susceptible to one or the other because you’re either aromatase dominate or 5-alpha reductase dominate.

-Pp
 
What are some of the other pathways for hairloss, BV? I'm not sure I'm prone to DHT related hairloss, but Havoc thinned me quite a bit in 4 weeks... something 4 months of test couldn't do.
 
CryingEmo said:
What are some of the other pathways for hairloss, BV? I'm not sure I'm prone to DHT related hairloss, but Havoc thinned me quite a bit in 4 weeks... something 4 months of test couldn't do.
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Its probably because of other 5-alpha reduced metabolites. Just because Havoc may not be able to convert to DHT, doesnt mean it cant convert to other equaly powerful Androstane metabolites.

-Pp
 
Primordial Perf said:
Its probably because of other 5-alpha reduced metabolites. Just because Havoc may not be able to convert to DHT, doesnt mean it cant convert to other equaly powerful Androstane metabolites.

-Pp
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So, theoretically the thinning should stop once it's out of my system?
 
I'm not necessarily interested in the hair regrowth, but would Toco-8 be good to take with a natural test boosting stack such as Hyperdrol+Mass FX due to it's role in LH & FSH synthesis?

Would their be any risk of hair loss or gyno in taking it with the Hypermass stack?
 
ja391 said:
I'm not necessarily interested in the hair regrowth, but would Toco-8 be good to take with a natural test boosting stack such as Hyperdrol+Mass FX due to it's role in LH & FSH synthesis?

Would their be any risk of hair loss or gyno in taking it with the Hypermass stack?
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If there was a risk of hairloss, then Toco would help reduce the risk. Apparently Vit E has some anti-aromatase activity too, so it won’t be contributing to any gyno activity. I’ve also seen research with Tocotrienols having a synergistic effect with Nolvadex for blocking the E receptor.

Yes, you are going to get a synergy with Toco-8 when combined with just about any T booster.

-Pp
 
Toco-8 just got 100% better.

We now have a higher potency extract so you now get almost 2x as much toco for your money -

-Pp
 
Id like to link you guys up with the a couple radio interviews on the Tocotrienols product Toco-8. This is Carl Lanore’s show over at Invalid Link Removed

In the first interview, Carl Lanore interviews Eric Potratz about the history of tocotrienols & tocopherols, and presents the patented hair loss study and benefits of the tocotrienols [Invalid Link Removed] -

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In the second interview Eric Potratz & Carl Lanore discuss the more specific properties of tocotrienols [Invalid Link Removed] and their benefits for hair growth, hormone production, heart health, ect -

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Enjoy.

-Pp
 
In my last epistane cycle i lost some of my hair if I use toco 8 during and after cycle ,do you think I will lose any hair?
 
toums said:
In my last epistane cycle i lost some of my hair if I use toco 8 during and after cycle ,do you think I will lose any hair?
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It should help prevent some loss, and possibly help regrow some after the cycle.

Can you like me to the steroid structure of Epistane?

-Eric
 
Epistane is: 2a,3a-Epithio-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane

It's a fairly mild steroid with anabolic effects, and a somewhat potent AI.
 
Gutterpump said:
Epistane is: 2a,3a-epithio17a methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane

It's a fairly mild steroid with anabolic effects, and a somewhat potent AI.
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That caused me and many others fairly significant hairloss for being so 'mild'...
 
Some people react that way on it. It's really strange because it has almost 0 androgenous effects and is almost entirely anabolic in nature. I did a 2 month run in the past at a very very high dose and suffered no hair loss, but have had thinning on hdrol before.
 
Gutterpump said:
Some people react that way on it. It's really strange because it has almost 0 androgenous effects and is almost entirely anabolic in nature. I did a 2 month run in the past at a very very high dose and suffered no hair loss, but have had thinning on hdrol before.
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For me it wasn't much while 'on', but the following month or two afterwards. No issues with SD, Test E or P, or Tren. I won't touch it again. Definitely wasn't worth it...
 
Gutterpump said:
Epistane is: 2a,3a-Epithio-17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane

It's a fairly mild steroid with anabolic effects, and a somewhat potent AI.
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I was looking for an image of the molecular structure… to see if it was already 5a-reduced.

I wouldn’t say it totally lacks androgenic effects.

-Pp
 
Has a little bit yeah..but very little overall, especially compared to other designers.

11:1 ratio anabolic:androgenic (in comparison to methyl-test)
 
If you were looking for the right sale to spend your cash on, you just found it!! Very nice
 
Will Toco-8 help with (dead) DORMANT hair follicles? Ive been bald for 15 years. Im 40
 
Whacked said:
Will Toco-8 help with (dead) DORMANT hair follicles? Ive been bald for 15 years. Im 40
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Yeah... it really wont help their.

Tocotrienols are going to increase blood flow to the scalp and hair follicle. Its are great for someone who has thinning hair and wants to stop the shedding and increase the overall thickness.... but it wont create miracles.
-Eric
 
It's never been a better time to get a jumpstart on your new years resolutions. Make sure you guys take advantage of this great sale before it's gone! Toco-8 is 20% off right now!

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I can attest that this does work at growing hair back...I have a small case of Alopecia areata due to my deployment to the middle east last year. I broke down and gave Toco-8 a try and to my surprise when I was done with the bottle 2 months later I had grown some hair back.

I wish I would have taken pictures...but you can definately tell I grew hair. Not fro super bald to Robin Williams but it def helps fill in the spots quicker. Def a product I would recommend. Pretty amazing and you can find the ingredients cheaper than what's combined in the product. Tracking down each toco would be time consuming and expensive...not worth it.
 
MrBigPR said:
I can attest that this does work at growing hair back...I have a small case of Alopecia areata due to my deployment to the middle east last year. I broke down and gave Toco-8 a try and to my surprise when I was done with the bottle 2 months later I had grown some hair back.

I wish I would have taken pictures...but you can definately tell I grew hair. Not fro super bald to Robin Williams but it def helps fill in the spots quicker. Def a product I would recommend. Pretty amazing and you can find the ingredients cheaper than what's combined in the product. Tracking down each toco would be time consuming and expensive...not worth it.
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Glad to hear your feedback.

-Eric
 
Any updates from users that have used this for a long period of time? I will post my experience with it over the past 18 months once I have more time. Overall: Great results thus far. I do have some pictures that show the change as well.
 
Looking to buy Toco-8? Use the coupon code TOCOPLUS at the Primordial store and when you buy Toco-8 you get a second Toco-8 50% off!
 
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