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THUNDERGOD'S 3-WEEK BLITZ-KRIEG with Methyl-E, M-Drol, And D-Bol

ThisGuy2 said:
I haven't tried Restore, but that sounds interesting to add to DTH, which I just tried recently and absolutely LOVED! Within just a few days you really feel it working. Chuck D says to start it during your last 3 days on, since that's about how long it takes to really kick in, and your whole pct should be golden. I, unfortunately, only employed it after a full pct that left me feeling a bit shutdown still. But it has worked well at getting me back on track.

I'll definitely have it in place for my next pct coming up in about 6 weeks...(takin' a page from the TG's book and running a three-weeker of my own pretty soon. Thanks again for all the advice on that one, bud!)


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Your not allowed to tease Thunder like that!!
 
Australian made said:
Your not allowed to tease Thunder like that!!
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It's all good in da Thunder-hood!! Hey Mr. Thunda-Frum-Down-Unda, did you see my post above telling you about the possibility of using Methoxy TRN in place of something like M-5AA, MethlyRage(MDHT), or MMV2 for pre-workout aggression, strength, and focus? And TRN will harden you up and increase vascualrity just like the rest of these androgens. TRN would also be cheaper than these!! I guess I wasn't thinking about TRN's awesome androgenic rating until Piston reminded me. Just a thought for ya! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
It's all good in da Thunder-hood!! Hey Mr. Thunda-Frum-Down-Unda, did you see my post above telling you about the possibility of using Methoxy TRN in place of something like M-5AA, MethlyRage(MDHT), or MMV2 for pre-workout aggression, strength, and focus? And TRN will harden you up and increase vascualrity just like the rest of these androgens. TRN would also be cheaper than these!! I guess I wasn't thinking about TRN's awesome androgenic rating until Piston reminded me. Just a thought for ya! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Ahh yes i ment to comment on that. I dont think i have any left although it is very easily obtainable over here. It's supposed to be great for strength, not quite sure on the aggression side of things however i have read numerous reports of people getting gyno or aggravating existing gyno on this stuff. I know i am very prone to it so i have to be careful with what i get. Found a cheap supplier of letro so i wont be doing another cycle until i have some some of that stuff. Next is going to be low dose Epi to see how that treats me on the gyno front and to give me a little boost in the gym.
 
Australian made said:
Ahh yes i ment to comment on that. I dont think i have any left although it is very easily obtainable over here. It's supposed to be great for strength, not quite sure on the aggression side of things however i have read numerous reports of people getting gyno or aggravating existing gyno on this stuff. I know i am very prone to it so i have to be careful with what i get. Found a cheap supplier of letro so i wont be doing another cycle until i have some some of that stuff. Next is going to be low dose Epi to see how that treats me on the gyno front and to give me a little boost in the gym.
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DOH!!:frustrate Forgive me! I remember you have to be careful with what you take in regards to gyno sensitivity. TRN wouldn't be the best idea then as it is progestational. Sorry! I guess the Epi is still the best bet for ya! I know you're getting ready for the big vacation and all. Just trying to plan something for you afterwards. You're gonna have some re-building to do after that long break. I do think a 4-Week cycle of Epi everyday like 20/20/30/30mg. with the MMV2 pulsed @4 caps only pre-workout would treat you nicely to start re-gaining some muscle mass while keeping it all lean!! Have a great day mate!! :cheers:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
It's all good in da Thunder-hood!! Hey Mr. Thunda-Frum-Down-Unda, did you see my post above telling you about the possibility of using Methoxy TRN in place of something like M-5AA, MethlyRage(MDHT), or MMV2 for pre-workout aggression, strength, and focus? And TRN will harden you up and increase vascualrity just like the rest of these androgens. TRN would also be cheaper than these!! I guess I wasn't thinking about TRN's awesome androgenic rating until Piston reminded me. Just a thought for ya! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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I most definitely will log it, broski! It should make for a pretty nice cut. I'm planning on starting July 8th, because the 4th weekend promises to involve some chips and dips, a cold brewski or two to cool off in the warm beach sun, and of course enough grilled meats to get PETA on the warpath...decidedly not an appropriate diet for a cut, especially for 3 or 4 days straight.

Anyway, I just ordered the necessary supps, and here's how I'm going to be running them:
Furazadrol 300mg e/d
Adrenosterone (225mg 11-oxo, 375mg 11-test) 600mg total e/d
MMV2 (starting at 3 pre-workout, possibly moving up to as high as 5, depending)

And I'm going to use Napalm and Venom HD alongside. I've used Napalm twice with great success and Venom is always nice for app supression and thermogenic properties. Naturally, ancillaries will be in place, as will the usual whey and casein. But all in all, this should be light on the liver, and not too bad on BP, though I always like to be careful when mixing fat burners and ph's.

Then I'll be doing pct with nolva, clomid, DTH, and now I'm kicking around the idea of Restore instead of 6-oxo. I'm really digging the idea of a 6-bromo product.
 
Pct Day 5

So far everything is moving along nicely in the PCT world! Libido is fine. Energy is still high along with training motivation. Aggression is still elevated. Focus is intense. Endurance is still fine. Recovery is slightly decreased since ending the cycle. I believe this to be normal however. PS's and AAS's do jack up your ability to recover between heavy resistance sessions. DOMS have also increased during PCT. I'm getting much more muscle soreness than when "on". But I actually appreciate the soreness, as it is a guide to training productivity and intensity. "No Pain.....No Gain"!!:aargh: It's very true!! Strength hasn't declined at all yet. In fact, just yesterday I set a new PR for Overhead Triceps Cable Extensions! I fight with everything within my being to not let the poundages fall off during my PCT's. Some people just get fukkin' lazy is all!! They don't even desire to workout if they're not "on" something! Pity.:sad: I was totally natural the first 41 years of my life. It's only been about 3 years for me and the designers so far. But, I do like 'em!! And I love D-Bol!!:food: But, all in all, PCT is going great guns at this point!! :numbered:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
Nice to see your PCT is running smoothly Thunder. About the TRN and stuff, i only did about 10days on it at the end of a PP cycle and i had to stop short because i felt like it was giving me gyno problems and alot of acne. I havent really touched it since and i still got some. It is possible that it was placebo but when i added it pounds went up and i didnt have to rest much between sets, i was str8 GETTIN IT! Now since you are so into the androgens alot like myself i must say you may love a TRN-TST combo prewo....id like to see that in the next Thundergod installment...Alohaz
 
I gotta say I'm thoroughly entertained by the language you use TG... I'm sure it's been said, but your log makes me want to watch Beowolf while I lift for some reason :head:

Not questioning your results so be sure to not be offended by my question, but why did you choose to run epi for it's AI properties rather than simply using an on cycle AI such as formestane?

I've also seen quite a bit of discussion regarding Restore. I got nadda out of that supplement and don't recommend it after 2 lousy runs. I admit that the fancy ingredient profile of Restore sucked me in, and wonder if would actually be effective at double or triple dosage :think:

I suspect that those who are stacking Restore with DTHC are responding to the diesal, although I can't personally vouch for that product because I haven't tried it myself.
 
celc5 said:
I gotta say I'm thoroughly entertained by the language you use TG... I'm sure it's been said, but your log makes me want to watch Beowolf while I lift for some reason :head:

Not questioning your results so be sure to not be offended by my question, but why did you choose to run epi for it's AI properties rather than simply using an on cycle AI such as formestane?

I've also seen quite a bit of discussion regarding Restore. I got nadda out of that supplement and don't recommend it after 2 lousy runs. I admit that the fancy ingredient profile of Restore sucked me in, and wonder if would actually be effective at double or triple dosage :think:

I suspect that those who are stacking Restore with DTHC are responding to the diesal, although I can't personally vouch for that product because I haven't tried it myself.
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I'm personally very curious about it...but I wouldn't want to risk screwing up my pct. Gonna have to do some more digging, methinks.
 
celc5 said:
I gotta say I'm thoroughly entertained by the language you use TG... I'm sure it's been said, but your log makes me want to watch Beowolf while I lift for some reason :head:

Not questioning your results so be sure to not be offended by my question, but why did you choose to run epi for it's AI properties rather than simply using an on cycle AI such as formestane?
Well, the Epi wasn't chosen strictly for an on-cycle AI. Although it is a steroidal AI after all is said and done. It was used as a prescription breast cancer med in Japan for years. I believe it did help as an AI would with bloat. My diet was also very strict, so bloating probably wouldn't have been an issue anyway. I guess I was using Epi as a 1-2 punch being steroidal and an aromatase inhibitor at the same time. Some even say it functions more like a SERM. But, anyway! On the third and final week of the cycle I did begin using my TD Form/Trione combo at 80 mg. each per day to start lowering estrogen slowly and to start shedding any water weight from the d-bol. I hope this answers your question. THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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the epi we use now is different from the epi used in japan as a breast cancer (serm) med the one we use is methylated and that changes the properties, although it should carry some of the traits its not the same.
 
BlackSheep said:
Man I wish I lived back in the days of feild combat and wenches and such. The anarchy and barbarism would be a welcome change from today's backstabbing, fake, plastic, give me everything now, Prozac, xanax, Pansie ass world IMO!!!!!
Long live The ThunderGod!!!!!!!!! O' and good morning. I'm dedicating my leg wo to you today TG, 9 sets of hell await me this afternoon!! Sounds like heaven!!lol...
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Man I`m with you on that one, this is a sissy world to low test men, is hard to true warriors adapt to this sad society...
 
pistonpump said:
the epi we use now is different from the epi used in japan as a breast cancer (serm) med the one we use is methylated and that changes the properties, although it should carry some of the traits its not the same.
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I understand that the methylation will change its properties and some characteristics even, but it is still epithio and should carry at least "some" anti-estrogenic traits at the end of the day. That's why everyone reports only dry, lean gains from it. But even its probable AI abilities isn't why I initially chose it in this stack. I simply knew it would help keep the d-bol dry and protect somewhat against gyno maybe. I liked the way all 3 compounds reacted together!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
I understand that the methylation will change its properties and some characteristics even, but it is still epithio and should carry at least "some" anti-estrogenic traits at the end of the day. That's why everyone reports only dry, lean gains from it. But even its probable AI abilities isn't why I initially chose it in this stack. I simply knew it would help keep the d-bol dry and protect somewhat against gyno maybe. I liked the way all 3 compounds reacted together!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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definately a good reason! its like how i used deca to combat the winstrol joint problems.... you have to look at the pros and cons and use what you can to make it all pros!!!!! :D
 
thundergod said:
I understand that the methylation will change its properties and some characteristics even, but it is still epithio and should carry at least "some" anti-estrogenic traits at the end of the day. That's why everyone reports only dry, lean gains from it. But even its probable AI abilities isn't why I initially chose it in this stack. I simply knew it would help keep the d-bol dry and protect somewhat against gyno maybe. I liked the way all 3 compounds reacted together!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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I agree. Epi is ALWAYS a solid compound to include in a stack. It never fails to help put on lean mass.
 
pistonpump said:
the epi we use now is different from the epi used in japan as a breast cancer (serm) med the one we use is methylated and that changes the properties, although it should carry some of the traits its not the same.
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Whew, this sounds like a juicy topic :head: Could you elaborate on this? This discussion could lead to a LOT of questions from me and might clutter things up for Mr. Thunder-liscious. So if you want me to start a new thread, pm bro :D
 
celc5 said:
Whew, this sounds like a juicy topic :head: Could you elaborate on this? This discussion could lead to a LOT of questions from me and might clutter things up for Mr. Thunder-liscious. So if you want me to start a new thread, pm bro :D
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I'll say this I agree with pistonP on this because Epithio's that we are taking ARE NOT the same as the steroidal AI "used safely in Japan for years to treat womens breast cancer" lol...I have basically Zero knowledge of Organic chem so I can't elaborate but I personally got gyno "during" my Epidrol cycle. Yes my PCT was beyond overkill and lucky so far I've been able to control it. I never exceeded 40mgs and only went that high for the last week. And yes I know what actual gyno is, not the sht these kids run around freaking out over when their nipps start to hurt cause they've been squeezing them for 6 hours "to see if they had Gyno".lol.....There are several others here and else where who have either had wicked flare-ups from Epithio clones or have gotten actual gyno so on that alone I would say that:
1. Either some of these clones are tainted or......
2. The AI properties of Epithio are negated some how from the methylation.
This would be a good question for PA maybe I'll go and shoot him a pm.
Def would make a good thread though. I'll subb:woohoo:
 
This is a great topic. Celc do you know what the actual compound used in japan is? Is it really not methylted?
 
bassgod272 said:
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Good call son I would rep ya but I can't at the moment So I will get you later. How does everyone think this compound would work for muscle growth? If it would work just as well give me some of that shiz.
 
Australian made said:
ive seen pics........he's tiny:run:
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Better be careful there mate! His real name is Dr. Henry Pym, and at any given moment he can transform into Giant-Man!! :bb3:Beware!!:eek: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
bassgod272 said:
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Damn it's good to have you back up and running Brosenstein!! We've all been missing this shizzle! Let the knowledge flow like wine down a maiden's bosom!!:food: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
celc5 said:
Whew, this sounds like a juicy topic :head: Could you elaborate on this? This discussion could lead to a LOT of questions from me and might clutter things up for Mr. Thunder-liscious. So if you want me to start a new thread, pm bro :D
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Feel completely free to continue this discussion here friend! I don't mind at all. It was Piston and I that kick-started this whole discussion. But I fear that this discussion will only lead to more questions and not many answers. Like Piston has alluded to, most of the original research is either missing or sparse at best. And if we could obtain some non-methylated epithio, I don't think we would necessarily like it. The methylation is added to make a compound more bio-available. That's what makes them hard on the liver. The liver tries desparately to break these compounds down, but the methylation keeps them intact through the first pass metabolism. Anyways, feel totally free to discuss any topics you wish to in my threads. I might be a Nazi, but not about these things! lol :toofunny: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
Pct Day 6 And Battle Report!!

LEGS AND SHOULDERS: I'm shocked at how strength is actually INCREASING during this PCT! I'm liking the oral ATD on this PCT as I think it is a major contributor. I'm going to jot down a few numbers from the fray: LEG EXTENSIONS: 120 X 10. MACHINE SQUATS: 305 X 15!! I was going to stop at 10 or 12, but said, "Screw that!!" Kept going!! ONE-LEGGED HAMSTRING CURLS: 85 X 10. STIFF-LEGGED DEADLIFTS: 280 X 10. MACHINE SHOULDER PRESSES: Are you all ready for this? 205 X 12!! PR! I was only hoping for 10 reps really, but just kept fighting thru!!:frustrate ONE-ARM CABLE SIDE LATERALS FROM BEHIND THE BACK: 55 X 10. These are much more strict than regular ones from the side! ONE-ARM CABLE REAR LATERALS FROM OVERHEAD PULLEY: 75 X 10!! Real hard. Lowered the weight for next set. 55 X 12 with strict form. A very successful workout especially for PCT. 2 personal bests with the Machine Squats and Machine Shoulder Presses! I couldn't be happier with this PCT. My bodyfat is melting off quickly now. The ATD is drying me out and increasing my veinage significantly! I'm feeling real beastly this morning!:aargh: I can't wait to go watch the new Hulk movie tomorrow!! That will feed the training fires for a while!!:twisted: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
Pct Day 7

UPDATE: Everything is going fantastic at the conclusion of week 1 of post cycle therapy. I can tell you from only hours ago that libido is totally where it should be! WOW!! I amazed myself, actually.:whip: lol Strength has increased slightly at the end of week 1. Muscle soreness is still elevated. But I like it. I'm sick like that!!:twisted: Energy is still electrified. I'm really starting to lean out now. I think it may be from the 50 mg. per day of ATD. It's drying me out nicely. I'm going to slightly up the good carbs for a couple of days while I decrease the ATD dosage down to 25 mg. per day for weeks 2 and 3 of PCT. I just had some real inspiration to fuel my workouts for a while. I just watched the new Hulk movie!! Everyone, it was, for a lack of better words,....INCREDIBLE!!:aargh: It was way better than the first one. I won't give anything away, but everyone of you should go see it! You won't be let down.:thumbsup: I can't wait to blast my Back and Biceps tomorrow! :frustrateTHE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
UPDATE: Everything is going fantastic at the conclusion of week 1 of post cycle therapy. I can tell you from only hours ago that libido is totally where it should be! WOW!! I amazed myself, actually.:whip: lol Strength has increased slightly at the end of week 1. Muscle soreness is still elevated. But I like it. I'm sick like that!!:twisted: Energy is still electrified. I'm really starting to lean out now. I think it may be from the 50 mg. per day of ATD. It's drying me out nicely. I'm going to slightly up the good carbs for a couple of days while I decrease the ATD dosage down to 25 mg. per day for weeks 2 and 3 of PCT. I just had some real inspiration to fuel my workouts for a while. I just watched the new Hulk movie!! Everyone, it was, for a lack of better words,....INCREDIBLE!!:aargh: It was way better than the first one. I won't give anything away, but everyone of you should go see it! You won't be let down.:thumbsup: I can't wait to blast my Back and Biceps tomorrow! :frustrateTHE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Ah, the Saturday morning rock-up. You gotta love it!:clap2:
 
Pct Day 8 Thundergod Smash!!!

BACK AND BICEPS: Some more increases to log today: LAT PULLDOWNS: 275 X 10!! PR. REVERSE-GRIP PULLDOWNS: 250 X 12. CLOSE-GRIP PULLDOWNS: 250 X 12. REVERSE-GRIP BENT-OVER ROWS: 225 X 12. ONE-ARM DUMBELL ROWS: 130 X 10!! PR. DUMBELL SHRUGS: 140's X 10!! PR. BARBELL PREACHER CURLS: 135 X 10. STANDING CLOSE-GRIP BARBELL CURLS: 135 X 12. ONE-ARM OVERHEAD PULLEY CURLS: 65 X 12!! Another PR. I think watching the new Hulk movie did something to me yesterday! I was in touch with a rage rarely felt before. It was like Beserker Level 2 or something! :aargh: :aargh:The Odin-Force was flowing through me like a raging torrent!:frustrate I am feeling absolutely great at this point of my PCT. I feel like I'm bouncing back exceptionally quick. Now I can't wait to get on with the next cycle! MORE!!!:aargh:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
Now I can't wait to get on with the next cycle! MORE!!!:aargh:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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Hell yea brother!! Lookin solid for sure. Glad to see that strength is still through the roof!!
What you got in mind for this "next" run or is it what I already talked to you about??
 
BlackSheep said:
Hell yea brother!! Lookin solid for sure. Glad to see that strength is still through the roof!!
What you got in mind for this "next" run or is it what I already talked to you about??
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No. It's not the one we talked about. I've got time for 1 more oral cycle first. Here's the plan for it. It will be another cutter, of course! I'm really starting to drop bodyfat now, and I feel and look much better. More pics after the cutter. So more cutting for me!:thumbsup: Here's the compounds: Methoxy TRN, Epi, Phera, and some TST pulsed only only workout days. Here's the dosing scheme: Everyday for all 3 weeks: Epi @30 mg., Methoxy TRN @ 4 caps (6 mg.), Phera @ 20 mg. These are taken everyday. Now the Methoxy TST is pulsed on my 3 workout days at 12 mg. (6 caps) 1 hour prior to training. It should be insane for strength!!:fool2: What's next for you? Anything certain? :think:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
No. It's not the one we talked about. I've got time for 1 more oral cycle first. Here's the plan for it. It will be another cutter, of course! I'm really starting to drop bodyfat now, and I feel and look much better. More pics after the cutter. So more cutting for me!:thumbsup: Here's the compounds: Methoxy TRN, Epi, Phera, and some TST pulsed only only workout days. Here's the dosing scheme: Everyday for all 3 weeks: Epi @30 mg., Methoxy TRN @ 4 caps (6 mg.), Phera @ 20 mg. These are taken everyday. Now the Methoxy TST is pulsed on my 3 workout days at 12 mg. (6 caps) 1 hour prior to training. It should be insane for strength!!:fool2: What's next for you? Anything certain? :think:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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So you just go right into 30 mg's epistane?Thats making me think of going 30/40/40.Or maybe even 30/40/50 with my next havoc cycle.
 
pantera101 said:
So you just go right into 30 mg's epistane?Thats making me think of going 30/40/40.Or maybe even 30/40/50 with my nect havoc cycle.
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Well, I used it at 20 mg. per day for this Blitz-Krieg I just finished. It is pretty mild IMO! So yeah, I'm going to bump it to 30 mg. per day with the 4 caps of TRN. It should increase strength astronomically!! I think you would be very safe to run your Havoc at 30/40/40 at least. You might even bump it to that 50 mg. if you feel up to it. And, I think you will LOVE it!! That shizz will make you strong as an ox brother!! :aargh:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
thundergod said:
Well, I used it at 20 mg. per day for this Blitz-Krieg I just finished. It is pretty mild IMO! So yeah, I'm going to bump it to 30 mg. per day with the 4 caps of TRN. It should increase strength astronomically!! I think you would be very safe to run your Havoc at 30/40/40 at least. You might even bump it to that 50 mg. if you feel up to it. And, I think you will LOVE it!! That shizz will make you strong as an ox brother!! :aargh:THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
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I'm very excited about it.I have been wanting to run it for a while now.I'm going to plan it where I will do 4-8 reps probably cause I hear alot talking about how nice the strength gains are.What I mean by that is I wont do 4-8 reps before the cycle starts so it will be a nice little shocker to be going to different reps with the havoc flowing through my blood!
 
pantera101 said:
So you just go right into 30 mg's epistane?Thats making me think of going 30/40/40.Or maybe even 30/40/50 with my next havoc cycle.
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Pantera bro honestly if I was you (I probably wouldn't be so d@mn good looking lol.. but other than that) or if I was to run an Epithio again I would run it for 6 weeks at 20,30,30,40,40,50, DO NOT run that sht for 3 wimpy ass weeks!! TG gets away with it ONLY because he is stacking (love ya TG) 3 or more compounds but you are only running one so IMO after 2 runs of super you will be EXTREMLY disappointed unless you do the minimal 4 weeks. And if you only go for 4 I would def do 20,30,40,50mgs ed. I got most of my gains in weeks 3-4 so something to think about.


And TG I will be running Motherfcuking Superdrol!!!! I just ordered enough ancillaries to cure cancer lol....So I'm going for it and I cannot wait and yes I'll do a log just for you big bro!!
Not sure on dose or duration yet though I would really like to do a higher dosed two weeker but we'll see. If I get to the end of two weeks and I either haven't gained sht or the gains are still coming I wouldn't want to have to endure another week at 20-30mgs so.....The main reason I want to do the 2weeker is because I'm so fcuking gyno prone and I would like to get in and out before I start having issues with me nipps!!
 
BlackSheep--I feel the issue with super-drol is more of "delayed-gyno" than anything else. And I still believe it has something to do with those people's PCT's, or lack thereof! You have to ramp up AI doses and taper down from SERM's at the beginning of PCT and THEN taper down from the AI's also. I think some of the disappointed people failed to do this. If you end AI's at a strong dose, you stand the chance of estro-rebound.You'll be fine however. We'll make sure you take all precautions. And I would do at least 3 weeks also. I think you could go 20/30/30 and love it!!:woohoo: Your choice of course!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
Happy Father's Day Everyone!!!

I just wanted to wish all of the Dads out there a very Happy Father's Day. My baby girl is about to turn 20 years old. I'm remembering my Dad who has been in Valhalla now for 4 years. And of course this morning's workout was dedicated to All-Father Odin!!:box: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
BlackSheep said:
Pantera bro honestly if I was you (I probably wouldn't be so d@mn good looking lol.. but other than that) or if I was to run an Epithio again I would run it for 6 weeks at 20,30,30,40,40,50, DO NOT run that sht for 3 wimpy ass weeks!! TG gets away with it ONLY because he is stacking (love ya TG) 3 or more compounds but you are only running one so IMO after 2 runs of super you will be EXTREMLY disappointed unless you do the minimal 4 weeks. And if you only go for 4 I would def do 20,30,40,50mgs ed. I got most of my gains in weeks 3-4 so something to think about.
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I agree on this too, Tg was running superdrol and dbol which are some of the fasting acting compounds out. With your epi i would run for at least 4 weeks imo. Epi is so mild to that for 4 weeks i would run it at 20,30,40,50 that would be a sweet cycle. imo
 
pistonpump said:
I just watched beowulf for the first time a few days ago.....he's the fvckin man!
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yeah if the demoness really looked anything like angelina jolie I would have sold out to her too lol, and forget going home to some stolen leftover princess, I would have just straight taken the demoness home to the throne as my queen and asked that she extend some of her anti aging ability to me also in exchange. She obviously knew it was a man's world at the time from a political point of view, but if it was that easy for her to play them like pawns, I don't know why she didn't simply tell one to bring her to the castle as queen. Hell, her whole condition was 'everythings fine as long as you keep me in your heart and the tribute you leave me doesn't get lost or forgotten'. So, basically, as long as you actually
remember, love and respect me the world is yours. I would have given her more than one son and have them unite the tribes and kingdoms through force and forged an empire more vast than Rome. Her only condition was to be loved and never to be discarded or forgotten, or else. I suppose the Havamal is right about men and women both.

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The Havamal said:
The speech of a maiden should no man trust
nor the words which a woman says;
for their hearts were shaped on a whirling wheel
and falsehood fixed in their breasts.
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Now plainly I speak, since both I have seen;
unfaithful is man to maid;
we speak them fairest when thoughts are falsest
and wile the wisest of hearts.


-- Let him speak soft words and offer wealth
who longs for a woman's love,
praise the shape of the shining maid --
he wins who thus doth woo.


-- Never a whit should one blame another
whom love hath brought into bonds:
oft a witching form will fetch the wise
which holds not the heart of fools.
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BlackSheep said:
Pantera bro honestly if I was you (I probably wouldn't be so d@mn good looking lol.. but other than that) or if I was to run an Epithio again I would run it for 6 weeks at 20,30,30,40,40,50, DO NOT run that sht for 3 wimpy ass weeks!! TG gets away with it ONLY because he is stacking (love ya TG) 3 or more compounds but you are only running one so IMO after 2 runs of super you will be EXTREMLY disappointed unless you do the minimal 4 weeks. And if you only go for 4 I would def do 20,30,40,50mgs ed. I got most of my gains in weeks 3-4 so something to think about.
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Yeah I should of specified that if the gains keep comming and I'm feeling great as many say they do,then it will def be longer than 3 weeks.i'll probably shoot for atleast 4 and start at 30.I believe Oz went up to 60.We obvisouly know what the hell FOG is doing with h drol!(225mgs right?)
 
Not to take away from the log but just wanted to add something to Pantera. Definately start at 30mg and bump as you see fit until you reach 50mg that should be enough for you. Try to get 5 weeks imo and when i did my 8 week epidrol cycle i was doing DC training the whole time and let me tell you that broke some nice strength plateaus...If you are going to keep the reps more on the low side then MaxOT or DC are good programs to follow esp on cycle since they can burn you out if used for too long a period.
 
Happy Fathers Day TG!! I got my two chillin right here with me, and my dad so I'm feelin pretty blessed to say the least today...
 
BlackSheep said:
Happy Fathers Day TG!! I got my two chillin right here with me, and my dad so I'm feelin pretty blessed to say the least today...
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Wundebar!! Give 'em all a big 'ol hug!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
 
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