thoughts on a trenavar/trestobol stack for strength

muzza12

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Just wanted to hear some advice/thoughts on a trenavar/trestobol cycle. goal is to get strength up and staying lean.

6 weeks
trenavar 90-120
trestobol 50-75
pct clomid 50,50,25,25
 
Tren is fabulous for staying lean. I ran a SD-Tren cycle that was amazing for strength gains. Trest-Tren will be my next cycle so I can't say on that yet but will be logging my next trest-tren cycle.
 
Packers1504 said:
Tren is fabulous for staying lean. I ran a SD-Tren cycle that was amazing for strength gains. Trest-Tren will be my next cycle so I can't say on that yet but will be logging my next trest-tren cycle.
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damn im interested how that goes, when's this cycle happening?
 
Stacking two 19-nor derivatives may cause unwanted side effects to some people so better have a good AI and maybe Prolactrone on hand just in case.

I personally would start with trendione and finish with trestolone (check the link in my sig for affordable clones). Many guys would start with trest and finish with tren but I like to feel good in the end of the cycle. This is how I'd run it:

- TR3N 60/90/120/120/120
- TR3ST 0/0/0/0/50/75/100/100/100

Total of 9 weeks, one bottle of each required. Both are great compounds for strength!
 
Yeh i will have an ai on hand dont usualy need it. I will probly have some nolva there aswell. Iv ran trenavar n stano before with good strength gains hopfully this is evan better. That layout looks good might have to start the trest a week earlyer tho
 
muzza12 said:
Yeh i will have an ai on hand dont usualy need it. I will probly have some nolva there aswell. Iv ran trenavar n stano before with good strength gains hopfully this is evan better. That layout looks good might have to start the trest a week earlyer tho
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TR3ST blows Stano out of the water.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
Stacking two 19-nor derivatives may cause unwanted side effects to some people so better have a good AI and maybe Prolactrone on hand just in case.

I personally would start with trendione and finish with trestolone (check the link in my sig for affordable clones). Many guys would start with trest and finish with tren but I like to feel good in the end of the cycle. This is how I'd run it:

- TR3N 60/90/120/120/120
- TR3ST 0/0/0/0/50/75/100/100/100

Total of 9 weeks, one bottle of each required. Both are great compounds for strength!
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Do you recommend a similar cycle with epi and tr3st? I was planning on doing 6 week cycle of both, but would it be better to run 6 weeks of epi and then 2 weeks in start the tr3st and run that for 6 weeks, for 8 weeks total?
 
bobbundy said:
Do you recommend a similar cycle with epi and tr3st? I was planning on doing 6 week cycle of both, but would it be better to run 6 weeks of epi and then 2 weeks in start the tr3st and run that for 6 weeks, for 8 weeks total?
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epi and trest would make you beast mode.
 
bobbundy said:
Do you recommend a similar cycle with epi and tr3st? I was planning on doing 6 week cycle of both, but would it be better to run 6 weeks of epi and then 2 weeks in start the tr3st and run that for 6 weeks, for 8 weeks total?
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You can run them simultaneously or the way you described. It depends on how long you want to be on cycle.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
You can run them simultaneously or the way you described. It depends on how long you want to be on cycle.
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I was thinking of doing epi/furaza cycle but after reading some feedback it doesn't look worth the money. If I did this cycle would it be good?
Epi
0/0/30/30/45/45/45/60
Tren
0/0/0/0/60/60/60/60 and go up from 60 as needd
Sdmz 2
1/1/1/1

should I spend the extra money on some MENT for the final 2 weeks of msten and also the final 2 weeks of tren. Or should I spend the extra money to buy a bottle of lgi's dmz and stack it with sdmz so the msten is at 10mg and the dmz is at 25mg plus?
 
Do you have any of these supps yet?

I'm not a huge fan of that cycle.

Personally I would do something like this:

Sdmz 2.0 @ 1/1/1/1

Tren 0/60/60/60/60/90/90/90

Trest 0/50/50/50/75/75/75

Inhibit p and formeron

I think 8 weeks of methyls starting with msten is asking for trouble.
 
Mystere3 said:
Do you have any of these supps yet?

I'm not a huge fan of that cycle.

Personally I would do something like this:

Sdmz 2.0 @ 1/1/1/1

Tren 0/60/60/60/60/90/90/90

Trest 0/50/50/50/75/75/75

Inhibit p and formeron

I think 8 weeks of methyls starting with msten is asking for trouble.
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i think 8 weeks isn't that much having done much longer cycles, however i think that's way too many compounds.. is the sdmz a must?
 
Mystere3 said:
Do you have any of these supps yet?

I'm not a huge fan of that cycle.

Personally I would do something like this:

Sdmz 2.0 @ 1/1/1/1

Tren 0/60/60/60/60/90/90/90

Trest 0/50/50/50/75/75/75

Inhibit p and formeron

I think 8 weeks of methyls starting with msten is asking for trouble.
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I already have the sdmz. I thought trest and tren at the same time wasn't the best idea?
I could probably drop the sdmz though and try something like this
Epi
30/45/45/45/45/45
Tren
60/60/60/60/60/60

If I keep the tren dose lower should I still need prolactin control? I have arimidex and erase that was originally bought because of the msten.

Do you think the cycle you later out above would yield ether results than this though?
 
bel1 said:
i think 8 weeks isn't that much having done much longer cycles, however i think that's way too many compounds.. is the sdmz a must?
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The sdmz is not a must. but I would like to try it
 
I'm not a fan of that cycle layout either.

I wouldn't stack trendione with trest if you haven't stacked two 19-nor compounds before.

Personally, I would do something like this if your cycle length is set to 8 weeks:

- Epi 30/45/45/45/45/45/0/0 or SDMZ2.0 10/10/10/20/20/20/0/0
- Trendione 60/90/120/120/120
- TR3ST 0/0/0/50/75/100/100/100

Or just a methyl + trendione at 0/0/60/60/60/60/60/90 or if you can afford it, 60/90/90/90/90/120/120/120.
 
I like the idea of low dose sdmz for a recomp/lean bulk. It's basically what we used to use SD for. I just don't like the idea of running another methyl after it. Personally I like the sdmz more than epi for what you're doing, but I'd run tren and trest with it. If you want, run the trest with the sdmz and the tren after.
 
Mystere3 said:
I like the idea of low dose sdmz for a recomp/lean bulk. It's basically what we used to use SD for. I just don't like the idea of running another methyl after it. Personally I like the sdmz more than epi for what you're doing, but I'd run tren and trest with it. If you want, run the trest with the sdmz and the tren after.
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dmz/tren/trest?

mud for blood after that cycle
 
Tren/trest are non methyls.

Sdmz is msten and dmz, also.

Actually it's not as hepatotoxic as you'd think. IMO it's more hepatotoxic to run a longer mild cycle especially as a bridge than a short harsher cycle unless the agent is m1t or methyltren.
 
Alright, I think I'll do sdmz tren and trest. At 60mg of tren do you need inhibit p or would just having an AI on hand be ok?
 
I mean, it's up to you. I'd do one of two things, either run inhibit p/prolacterone or have caber on hand. 99% you won't need them, but it'd be better to be ready then have to abort the cycle bc you have to wait for it to show up.
 
808shredded said:
If running trest and tren together, I would also take a AI with it.
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Ya I seem to have some more work to do on my cycle before I order tomorrow. but I have arimidex on hand and I will run erase on cycle with anything that aromatizes or increases e2.
 
muzza12 said:
Would bps formasurge do for a ai havin a bit of trouble getin aromasin
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Formeron or formasurge should work fine. It's pretty comparable to exemestane minus needing to be dosed transdermally.
 
Formeron seems to be the best reviewed and most effective OTC option,

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reps4jesus said:
Alright, I think I'll do sdmz tren and trest. At 60mg of tren do you need inhibit p or would just having an AI on hand be ok?
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When I ran tren, I ran it upped it to 120mg/day with fantastic results. Just some food for thought. but 120 was definitely the sweet spot for me/
 
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Packers1504 said:
When I ran tren, I ran it upped it to 120mg/day with fantastic results. Just some food for thought. but 120 was definitely the sweet spot for me/
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Yeah with Celtic Tren people are basically starting at 90mg. Some people love it at 90, others want to bump it to 120. I've seen 150mg+ but it's hardly necessary.

I don't see much of a problem with stacking Trestobol with Celtic Tren unless someone is really sensitive to estrogen. I am pretty estrogen side prone, but trendione and trest are okay by me as long as I'm running between 12.5mg and 25mg exemestane ED.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Yeah with Celtic Tren people are basically starting at 90mg. Some people love it at 90, others want to bump it to 120. I've seen 150mg+ but it's hardly necessary.

I don't see much of a problem with stacking Trestobol with Celtic Tren unless someone is really sensitive to estrogen. I am pretty estrogen side prone, but trendione and trest are okay by me as long as I'm running between 12.5mg and 25mg exemestane ED.
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Yep, I think 60mg/day is the bare minimum for trendione and most people like it at 90-120mg/day.

Exemestane is a perfect AI and out of OTC options Formeron or some other transdermal formestane product is good. I wouldn't recommend to risk it with weaker AI's if someone decides to stack trest and trendione. For me 75-200mg/day of transdermal formestane works for ANY cycle.
 
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