muskate Suppression is suppression; it's counterproductive to the point of pct
It's not quite that simple. Depending on the dosages used, drugs used etc the rate of suppression will be different.
Let's say someone took 50mg of test e per week and then ran blood work, their lh and fsh would be suppressed but I promise you they wouldn't be 0.
Now let's say that same person all of a sudden watched a old Bostin Lloyd video and upped his dosage to 5000mg per week and re ran blood work. This time I promise you his lh and fsh would be zero.
It's the same reason why someone can run one cycle, a crappy pct and never touch steroids again but end up with normal testosterone levels.
At the same time, someone who has been using steroids for 20+ years is most likely going to end up on trt, even if he was meticulous with running proper pcts, taking time off inbetween cycles etc etc