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Huge thanks to Cheftepesh and the rest of the Iconic Formulations crew for getting Neuro DHEA and Neuro P5 sent out to me (quickly, I might add). I've been interested in Pregnenolone for quite some time, and after reading up on DHEA, I was certain I could benefit from this combo. For some quick info, JAS51 dug up a few studies here.
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25 years old, 145lbs, extreme hardgainer, high cortisol, high prolactin, low(ish) T due to trauma to the jewel pouch.

Recently promoted to a focus-reliant environment, where previously I was just a production workhorse. The transition from physical labor to a more mental game has caused some struggles for me. The promotion means relocation, increased hours, travel, and a plethora of factors that have made life hellish recently. The physical game was easy, just do work. The mental game is challenging because I suffer from CRS. I'm hoping this stack can change that, because I feel that my workouts may be negatively impacted by being mentally out of it. /


I'll be using Neuro DHEA and Neuro P5 by rotating application areas at a rate of 1ml of each, daily. I'll also be using the following:

MassTech Extreme 2k - I've lost the time I once had to eat multiple meals throughout the day, so I'll be using this until I can iron out the wrinkles in my diet.
Amino Energy - Very lightly stimulated. I'm cutting back on my overall stimulant use, but have the worst headaches if I don't have some caffeine.
One Daily - Basic, non-comprehensive multi-vitamin because I'm still not receiving my agreed-upon pay-rate. (whole other story there)
Move Free Advanced - D3, Glucosamine, MSM, Uniflex, Chondroitin, and Hyaluronic Acid
Melatonin - Only on nights where I feel like I'm not very tired near bedtime.
Sweet Sticky Green Stuff - Because you know... I'm grown and whatnot...




I used it yesterday and today, and will be following this post up with some initial thoughts and other boring crap after tonight's session.

 
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off to a great start!!!

I use hormonal td's primarily on neck, shoulders and traps, also using a sandwich baggie [can be bought at dollar tree very cheap] will prevent absorption on hands. I also use a hair dryer over applied area for around 30 seconds to help absorption!!!


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Looking forward to seeing how this goes. Never was prior to dermicrine but a big fan of transdermal products now.
 
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off to a great start!!!

I use hormonal td's primarily on neck, shoulders and traps, also using a sandwich baggie [can be bought at dollar tree very cheap] will prevent absorption on hands. I also use a hair dryer over applied area for around 30 seconds to help absorption!!!


good luck!!!
Hey mate.
Just wondering why prevent absorption on hands?
 
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Also, subbed! I'm using this stuff too, interested in reading how you go with it!
 
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Hey mate.
Just wondering why prevent absorption on hands?
if you apply with bare hands a lot of it will absorb into hands....after applying you wash hands and wash it down the drain-why waste product=wasting money!!!
 
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if you apply with bare hands a lot of it will absorb into hands....after applying you wash hands and wash it down the drain-why waste product=wasting money!!!
Oh...cool I haven't been washing my hands for that reason haha
 
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Oh...cool I haven't been washing my hands for that reason haha
much more practical to use the baggies...a buck gets you 45 at dollar tree!!!
 
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Huge thanks to Cheftepesh and the rest of the Iconic Formulations crew for getting Neuro DHEA and Neuro P5 sent out to me (quickly, I might add). I've been interested in Pregnenolone for quite some time, and after reading up on DHEA, I was certain I could benefit from this combo. For some quick info, JAS51 dug up a few studies here.

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Recently promoted to a focus-reliant environment, where previously I was just a production workhorse. The transition from physical labor to a more mental game has caused some struggles for me. The promotion means relocation, increased hours, travel, and a plethora of factors that have made life hellish recently. The physical game was easy, just do work. The mental game is challenging because I suffer from CRS. I'm hoping this stack can change that, because I feel that my workouts may be negatively impacted by being mentally out of it. /

I used it yesterday and today, and will be following this post up with some initial thoughts and other boring crap after tonight's session.

Following. Let's see if it help with CRS.
 
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Today was upper and middle back. Good session with some fun pulls.

My girlfriend claims that the stack makes me smell like an old man lol! It's not a bothersome smell to me at all, though. after two applications, I can't say much, but I AM already feeling better mentally. I've been in a pretty good mood all day today. Maybe it's the fact that I'm on a 3-day weekend. Maybe it's placebo. All I know for sure is that today was a good day from start to finish.

Without even thinking, I just rub any excess solution from my hands onto my lower back. It's such a minuscule amount that I can't see it being an issue. I also have no problem walking around with my shirt off while I get ready in the morning to let it dry. It's dry by the time I get ready to leave the house in the morning.
 
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Today was upper and middle back. Good session with some fun pulls.

My girlfriend claims that the stack makes me smell like an old man lol! It's not a bothersome smell to me at all, though. after two applications, I can't say much, but I AM already feeling better mentally. I've been in a pretty good mood all day today. Maybe it's the fact that I'm on a 3-day weekend. Maybe it's placebo. All I know for sure is that today was a good day from start to finish.

Without even thinking, I just rub any excess solution from my hands onto my lower back. It's such a minuscule amount that I can't see it being an issue. I also have no problem walking around with my shirt off while I get ready in the morning to let it dry. It's dry by the time I get ready to leave the house in the morning.
I’m the same way. I just spend an extra minute or two with my shirt off so it dries properly.
 
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Today was upper and middle back. Good session with some fun pulls.

My girlfriend claims that the stack makes me smell like an old man lol! It's not a bothersome smell to me at all, though. after two applications, I can't say much, but I AM already feeling better mentally. I've been in a pretty good mood all day today. Maybe it's the fact that I'm on a 3-day weekend. Maybe it's placebo. All I know for sure is that today was a good day from start to finish.

Without even thinking, I just rub any excess solution from my hands onto my lower back. It's such a minuscule amount that I can't see it being an issue. I also have no problem walking around with my shirt off while I get ready in the morning to let it dry. It's dry by the time I get ready to leave the house in the morning.
good days are a blessing...can't have too many good days!!!

hope you have plenty more!!!
 
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How long does it stay in the skin?
not sure, I want to say the transdermal is good for 12 hours....I will have to do some research to give you a definite answer!!!

feel free to pm me with any questions!!!
 
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Today I applied P5 to the left side of my abdomen and DHEA to the right. I let it dry (which takes about 5 minutes of walking around to be totally dry to the touch) and then used Dr. Teal's eucalyptus lotion on the area. About 10 minutes afterwards I notice a bit of a stimulating head rush. It didn't feel chemically induced, as if from a PWO. It instead felt like I had an abundance of my own energy and focus. This has me very excited about going back to work come Tuesday so I can see if it is making a different difference yet, or if it is still a little early.
 
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Today I applied P5 to the left side of my abdomen and DHEA to the right. I let it dry (which takes about 5 minutes of walking around to be totally dry to the touch) and then used Dr. Teal's eucalyptus lotion on the area. About 10 minutes afterwards I notice a bit of a stimulating head rush. It didn't feel chemically induced, as if from a PWO. It instead felt like I had an abundance of my own energy and focus. This has me very excited about going back to work come Tuesday so I can see if it is making a different difference yet, or if it is still a little early.
that effect is what I like to call 'NATURAL' energy!!! gotta love it!!!
 
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that effect is what I like to call 'NATURAL' energy!!! gotta love it!!!
I will be getting this soon. Need some "natural energy"
 
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The weather here's been absolutely horrible, service has been extremely spotty but the storm has gotten far enough away overnight. I've got some thoughts to put up after my late shift tonight.
 
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I will be getting this soon. Need some "natural energy"
LOL...who couldn't use some 'natural energy'....I love stims, but the natural energy is a real bonus-no crash!!!
 
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I've noticed a much more restful sleep from which I wake with ease. My turn-and-burn today should go better than the rest!
 
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"Turn and Burn" Can you explain further?
 
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"Turn and Burn" Can you explain further?
When work makes you follow up your late night with an early morning. Turn the candle upside down and burn the other end.
 
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When work makes you follow up your late night with an early morning. Turn the candle upside down and burn the other end.
I can see where more restful sleep would be very beneficial....I have to take Xanax/gabapentin before bed if I want restful sleep!!!
 
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I can see where more restful sleep would be very beneficial....I have to take Xanax/gabapentin before bed if I want restful sleep!!!
Xanax used to be my go-to sleep aid. I'm glad I got past that.


BTW, the only places I get the warming sensation are my hands and my junk. I've been rubbing the excess on what will one day be my Adonis belt, and work my way down, instead of my lower back as usual.

One note I've failed to mention is that wherever I apply EITHER of the products gets a nice, heavy pump.

While reading more on pregnenolone, I came across an article that said it binds to the sane receptors as cannabis, taking priority and inhibiting the psychoactive effects. This has not been my experience at all so far. If anything, it improves it, making me more relaxed yet more alert at the same time.

Maybe that interests you guys, maybe it doesn't.
 
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Xanax used to be my go-to sleep aid. I'm glad I got past that.


BTW, the only places I get the warming sensation are my hands and my junk. I've been rubbing the excess on what will one day be my Adonis belt, and work my way down, instead of my lower back as usual.

One note I've failed to mention is that wherever I apply EITHER of the products gets a nice, heavy pump.

While reading more on pregnenolone, I came across an article that said it binds to the sane receptors as cannabis, taking priority and inhibiting the psychoactive effects. This has not been my experience at all so far. If anything, it improves it, making me more relaxed yet more alert at the same time.

Maybe that interests you guys, maybe it doesn't.
That stuff will make you a zombie lol
 
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Xanax used to be my go-to sleep aid. I'm glad I got past that.


BTW, the only places I get the warming sensation are my hands and my junk. I've been rubbing the excess on what will one day be my Adonis belt, and work my way down, instead of my lower back as usual.

One note I've failed to mention is that wherever I apply EITHER of the products gets a nice, heavy pump.

While reading more on pregnenolone, I came across an article that said it binds to the sane receptors as cannabis, taking priority and inhibiting the psychoactive effects. This has not been my experience at all so far. If anything, it improves it, making me more relaxed yet more alert at the same time.

Maybe that interests you guys, maybe it doesn't.
something else of interest.. IconicForm posted in burnfires thread that preg will enhance the effect of stims!!!
 
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Awesome! I'm only using lightly stimulated products right now, and was thinking "wow I've really been overdoing it" because 200mg of caffeine had me feeling the same as a heavy stim product. It never occurred to me that it was the P5!
 
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Awesome! I'm only using lightly stimulated products right now, and was thinking "wow I've really been overdoing it" because 200mg of caffeine had me feeling the same as a heavy stim product. It never occurred to me that it was the P5!
like I said, nice added bonus!!!
 
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Xanax used to be my go-to sleep aid. I'm glad I got past that.


BTW, the only places I get the warming sensation are my hands and my junk. I've been rubbing the excess on what will one day be my Adonis belt, and work my way down, instead of my lower back as usual.

One note I've failed to mention is that wherever I apply EITHER of the products gets a nice, heavy pump.

While reading more on pregnenolone, I came across an article that said it binds to the sane receptors as cannabis, taking priority and inhibiting the psychoactive effects. This has not been my experience at all so far. If anything, it improves it, making me more relaxed yet more alert at the same time.

Maybe that interests you guys, maybe it doesn't.
something else of interest.. IconicForm posted in burnfires thread that preg will enhance the effect of stims!!!
Some people find pregnenolone improves energy, vision, memory, clarity of thinking, wellbeing, and often sexual enjoyment or libido. Pregnenolone may be considered a good brain enhancer in those who are deficient. Studies in rodents show pregnenolone to be one of the most effective and powerful memory boosters. Pregnenolone may increase levels of acetylcholine in the hippocampus and other memory regions in the brain.


Link http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/146351-pal-reset-d.html


Here is another great read. http://thesilveredge.com/preg.shtml
 
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Some people find pregnenolone improves energy, vision, memory, clarity of thinking, wellbeing, and often sexual enjoyment or libido. Pregnenolone may be considered a good brain enhancer in those who are deficient. Studies in rodents show pregnenolone to be one of the most effective and powerful memory boosters. Pregnenolone may increase levels of acetylcholine in the hippocampus and other memory regions in the brain.


Link http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/146351-pal-reset-d.html


Here is another great read. http://thesilveredge.com/preg.shtml
IT has always amazed me how two people could have profoundly different effects from the same products.
 
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Salvo, buffers delivery in the skin over 6-8 hours...I think I saw this question earlier in this thread :)
 
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Salvo, buffers delivery in the skin over 6-8 hours...I think I saw this question earlier in this thread :)
THANKS...good info to know!!!
 
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week one has yielded a seriously good start. 2 pounds up. I'll try to get some pictures up tonight. Here's a few things I've noticed.

Lean mass gains.
Great mood.
Deep sleep.
Better focus.
Improved confidence.

I never would have guessed that I would be responding to the products so quickly and dramatically. One week seems like a crazy short time period for the payout so far.

It may also be diet changes but Ive noticed more volume when I "sow my seeds" so to speak.

Fridays are big days for me at work. Recently they have been highlighting my weaknesses, and this week I feel like I performed exceptionally well. If nothing else, I hope the performance boost at work continues.

Im very excited to see the effects after another week!
 
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No big updates or unordinary happenings. Just feeling better and better every day!
 
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Nice veinage
Vascular ALL damn day now. I've also noticed that I feel like eating more as well as more frequently. This is really helpful since my biggest challenge bulking is typically a lack of appetite.
 
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Vascular ALL damn day now. I've also noticed that I feel like eating more as well as more frequently. This is really helpful since my biggest challenge bulking is typically a lack of appetite.
do you use protein shakes?
 
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do you use protein shakes?
I do. I'm using a gainer at the moment until I find more stability at work and more time to eat actual whole foods more frequently.
 
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Vascular ALL damn day now. I've also noticed that I feel like eating more as well as more frequently. This is really helpful since my biggest challenge bulking is typically a lack of appetite.
I wish I had lack of appetite.
 
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I do. I'm using a gainer at the moment until I find more stability at work and more time to eat actual whole foods more frequently.
what kind of work do you do?

when I worked production at international paper I used to pack a lunch including snacks for breaks, no one was interested in stealing it from fridge, it wasn't fast food, lol!!!
 
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what kind of work do you do?

when I worked production at international paper I used to pack a lunch including snacks for breaks, no one was interested in stealing it from fridge, it wasn't fast food, lol!!!
Good ol' tractor supply lol. I remember working for international paper several years ago. Almost died one too many times from others being careless.

Was in a minor wreck today, nothing big, but I'm going to the doc tomorrow to make damn sure I didn't compromise my old injury. So tonight, no lifting, just eating playing with my new pup.
 
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Good ol' tractor supply lol. I remember working for international paper several years ago. Almost died one too many times from others being careless.

Was in a minor wreck today, nothing big, but I'm going to the doc tomorrow to make damn sure I didn't compromise my old injury. So tonight, no lifting, just eating playing with my new pup.
pup's are fun...my oldest dog sid just turned 20 years old, he hasn't been a pup for a very long time, lol....hope everything checks out ok!!!
 
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pup's are fun...my oldest dog sid just turned 20 years old, he hasn't been a pup for a very long time, lol....hope everything checks out ok!!!
x-rays were picture perfect. I'm not experiencing any pain, but I just wanted to be totally sure. I've over-estimated my wellness before with disastrous results, and have learned that "better safe than sorry" was first spoken by a very wise person. I notice that I seem to be leaning out, even though my diet is supporting weight gain??? I'm sticking very accurately to a surplus, but I think I may not be hydrating as much as I should considering the southern heat and increase in work... It's something I'm usually very good at, so I've never had to make a conscious effort to stick to it.
 
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I think I'll be taking a few days to recuperate. I've worked a 14, 16, and today and tomorrow will be 12 hour shift. I'm beat fellas
 

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