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redman24

redman24

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hi,
i have been unable to lift for 5 weeks due to illness and now i will make myself feel better with this stack

12caps prime
3 caps anabolic pump
6 caps hgh up
lg ghenerate
150mg forskolin (c-bolic)
4 caps stoked
6 caps e-bol
8 caps natadrol
hemavol pre workout
c-bol pre-workout

3scoops intrabolic intraworkout, torrent post workout.

other than that, whey protein, eaa, osteosport, animal flex, cissus, orange triad and whatever else is lying around the house.

there is no question in this thread, just cant share the excitement with anyone else, so let me know.does it give you a hard-on? :-)
 
One thing stands out to me, the natadrol and HGHup. One is a androgen and the other is a hgh and testbooster
 
are you suggesting that they may conflict each other in terms of the androgen rendering the testboosting component useless, or am i misunderstanding you?
 
redman24 said:
hi,
i have been unable to lift for 5 weeks due to illness and now i will make myself feel better with this stack

12caps prime
3 caps anabolic pump
6 caps hgh up
lg ghenerate
150mg forskolin (c-bolic)
4 caps stoked
6 caps e-bol
8 caps natadrol
hemavol pre workout
c-bol pre-workout

3scoops intrabolic intraworkout, torrent post workout.

other than that, whey protein, eaa, osteosport, animal flex, cissus, orange triad and whatever else is lying around the house.

there is no question in this thread, just cant share the excitement with anyone else, so let me know.does it give you a hard-on? :-)
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You'd be taking +/- 40 capsules per day... why not extend your cycle into multiple cycle(s)? By doing so, you will be able to better evaluate each supplements efficacy.
 
yes, you have a good point and such practice will follow in the future.being impatient and overly motivated however, i just want to get back and then exceed my previous condition as fast as possible and additionally there is something great about seeing real results from supplements.
lets say someone uses a product and gains 5 pounds and a quarter inch around their arms, then claims it was a success.do you really know its the supplements?
did the person maybe not just get a little fat?
since one supplements effect can never be "extreme" i want get the best possible collective result.
before i got sick i had just finished a stack of hghup,drive,rpm,phytotestosterone,activate xtreme and t-force.
i gained almost an inch around my arms within 4 weeks while gainaing barely any weight.bodyfat ended up at 6%, previously aprox. 8-9%.
so this way i cannot be sure which product worked but at least i had real noticeable results outside of placebo effect.

blablabla, i admit, i am impatient,obsessed and retarded :-)
 
redman24 said:
lets say someone uses a product and gains 5 pounds and a quarter inch around their arms, then claims it was a success.do you really know its the supplements?
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You just contradicted yourself...

I think you are relying solely on supplement use (opposed to actual training, and self-motivation). You said it yourself, "I will make myself feel better with this stack." As in, you are ultimately relying on blanketing multiple supplements in an attempt to produce 'maximum' results.

Case in point, your last stack consisted of five different test boosters...
 
no, i dont rely solely on supplements.i never took anything besides the basics before last august.then i took glycobol and realised that supplements can be effective.since then i have done an enormous amount of research.
the last stack was well researched and i do not buy products for their advertised "test boosting" properties, but for the herbals they contain.i dont look at what the product is supposed to do but at the properties of the extracts.
most of these extracts work through completely different mechanism anyways, but those would not appeal to the bodybuilder.tinospora cordifolia for example is well known in ayurveda as guduchi and boosts the immune system.
only reason i dont buy everything from india is that its easier to get your hands on standardized extracts from supplement companies, otherwise one has to buy in enormous bulk.

and as for the training, i dont even know why i am justifying myself here,but look at my profile pic, that was before supplements, i am now about the same weight with 10 pounds more musle and 10 pounds less fat.so to say there is no actual training going on is just insulting
 
redman24 said:
no, i dont rely solely on supplements.i never took anything besides the basics before last august.then i took glycobol and realised that supplements can be effective.
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redman24 said:
lets say someone uses a product and gains 5 pounds and a quarter inch around their arms, then claims it was a success.do you really know its the supplements?
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Again, you contradict yourself...

You saw success using only ONE supplement! Now you want to incorporate 20 supplements?
 
i dont know if you are trying to argue with me, just know that i am not pissed of or anything, so i dont know why i am even trying to change your mind but before this thread my be deleted since useless anyways i want to answer your last question.
i have taken glycobol which has had a great effect for me and thereby spiked my interest in supplementation.since not everything is backed by research some things are a guessing game and i have tried a few other supplements without effect.
through a combination of trial and research i can now build stacks that can produce effective results containing products that would be rather ineffective on their own but potentiate the whole.
i am not going to mention these products but i assure you they exist.
so rather than looking at this so called "stack" as supplement+supplement+supplement, it should rather be viewed as a complex of substances triggering specific reactions in the body that will amount to synergistic effects.
i would much prefer to make my own products or buy a product that is really comprehensive but am prevented by the cost of 25kg bulk extracts and the unavailibility in the form of commercial supplements due to the lack of affordibility for the consumer.
so to cut a long story short, actually i am just taking one supplement divided by small bottles with labels, plus two products which i admit i am just taking a lucky guess, namely the ebol and the prime.so i could run them separately, you are right, but if i gain unusual amounts of strength on this it will be due to those, since the other extracts effect are mostly known to me in some way or another.

oh also, keep in mind, i have been having serious cognitive problems due to my illness lately so i can not check everything i right for perfect sounding logic.

ah **** it, you caught me, i am a junkie...so what? :-)
i do have knowleadge on all parameters though, and get insulted when someone question this.of course one cant see the thousnads of hours ive spent researching training.but its true.

i knew this thread would create something like this, so i admit it was pointless being opened and may be closed.
you are welcome to further communicate per pm if you are interested, which i suppose you arent really anyway.
okay enough, gotta go, im late
cheers
fabian
 
redman24 said:
hi,
i have been unable to lift for 5 weeks due to illness and now i will make myself feel better with this stack

12caps prime
3 caps anabolic pump
6 caps hgh up
lg ghenerate
150mg forskolin (c-bolic)
4 caps stoked
6 caps e-bol
8 caps natadrol
hemavol pre workout
c-bol pre-workout

3scoops intrabolic intraworkout, torrent post workout.

other than that, whey protein, eaa, osteosport, animal flex, cissus, orange triad and whatever else is lying around the house.

there is no question in this thread, just cant share the excitement with anyone else, so let me know.does it give you a hard-on? :-)
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IMO I would spread this out to something like:
Weeks 1-4 HGHUP, natadrol, ghenerate
Weeks 5-8 everything else
 
what were you taking for your basics? i'd say ur set to get back at it....one thing i will say tho in being off for 5 weeks u might want to take it slow at first....ur body may reject 20 sups being forced on it after only taking one sup b4 and 5 weeks off. to go from 0 to 20 while ur body is finishing its recovery from illness could backfire....if i were you (which i am not this is only a suggestion) i would get a couple workouts under my belt then reintroduce my basics then if my body responded well and there is no relapse of illness i would move forward with all the other sups. honestly tho u should be fine, I'm just giving u something to consider. i'm not one to ease into anything either so i probably wouldnt end up following my own advice but yeah like i said just something to think about. Ultimately this stack is pretty insane...if all goes according to planned (which i dont see being a problem) i look forward to seeing you take over the world in Iron Man 3 (no suit required) haha good luck, feel better and keep us posted on this. i'd appreciate it if you could take a look at my post and offer any advice on the stack I am considering. I suppose just search Hurricane15 in the search bar and hopefully it'll bring up my threads. thx man good luck
 
all will be run for 8 weeks if all goes well and yes, i will get a few workouts in before starting the supplements, so i dont waste all the potential while i still have memory effect anyways.
thanks guys, really gotta go now
 
redman24 said:
i dont know if you are trying to argue with me, just know that i am not pissed of or anything, so i dont know why i am even trying to change your mind but before this thread my be deleted since useless anyways i want to answer your last question.
i have taken glycobol which has had a great effect for me and thereby spiked my interest in supplementation.since not everything is backed by research some things are a guessing game and i have tried a few other supplements without effect.
through a combination of trial and research i can now build stacks that can produce effective results containing products that would be rather ineffective on their own but potentiate the whole.
i am not going to mention these products but i assure you they exist.
so rather than looking at this so called "stack" as supplement+supplement+supplement, it should rather be viewed as a complex of substances triggering specific reactions in the body that will amount to synergistic effects.
i would much prefer to make my own products or buy a product that is really comprehensive but am prevented by the cost of 25kg bulk extracts and the unavailibility in the form of commercial supplements due to the lack of affordibility for the consumer.
so to cut a long story short, actually i am just taking one supplement divided by small bottles with labels, plus two products which i admit i am just taking a lucky guess, namely the ebol and the prime.so i could run them separately, you are right, but if i gain unusual amounts of strength on this it will be due to those, since the other extracts effect are mostly known to me in some way or another.

oh also, keep in mind, i have been having serious cognitive problems due to my illness lately so i can not check everything i right for perfect sounding logic.

ah **** it, you caught me, i am a junkie...so what? :-)
i do have knowleadge on all parameters though, and get insulted when someone question this.of course one cant see the thousnads of hours ive spent researching training.but its true.

i knew this thread would create something like this, so i admit it was pointless being opened and may be closed.
you are welcome to further communicate per pm if you are interested, which i suppose you arent really anyway.
okay enough, gotta go, im late
cheers
fabian
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I'm not at all trying to argue with you. I respect everyone, including their opinion. Instead, I am suggesting what I would personally do given your situation.

I'm sure you spent quite a bit of money comprising this stack, and it would be a shame to condense 10 different supplements into a eight week time frame. Be as it may, it seems as though you have already made up your mind... Best of luck, and get well soon!
 
if you have a solid training routine and diet is in check, thats a great stack.. albeit a weeeee bit pricey lol
 
Solid stack bro, no conflicting things that I see. Currently using AP and hemavol, like em both.
 
hahahaha
well at least you somewhat succeeded...
but we will return one day.an interesting battle it shall be...harhar
as for the waste of money, i have some and i have realized i have been spending it way to sensibly.time to be stupid, i could be dead tomorrow.and i really do mean that, at least for now.:-)
 
Good luck and I hope the best for you. Hoping you gain lots of muscle!
 
thats a good guess.actually there are many character traits that are similar.
no sense of humour,,gullible, no clue about the world except home...
actually i was initially going to say stingy and envious, but i am not sure if that applies to americans, definitely does to germans.
however, i have never seen so many dumb idiots as americans and germans (i say that being german). however, where there is lots of shadow there is also lots of light...

and as for the australian, well, **** mate...i just came from bali...nonononononononoarghghghghghghghghghgh
than again im sure your nice :-)
 
it means that the australian tourists in bali are very intolerable in their primitive and disrespectful behaviour.similar to the germans and english in mallorca.
westerners are strange, my favourite people are indonesians, this is the only case where i can truly say that they are nice people as a whole.
in all other countries i have been ,you have a much larger spectrum of idiots/wankers/imbeciles etc.
 
redman24 said:
thats a good guess.actually there are many character traits that are similar.
no sense of humour,,gullible, no clue about the world except home...
actually i was initially going to say stingy and envious, but i am not sure if that applies to americans, definitely does to germans.
however, i have never seen so many dumb idiots as americans and germans (i say that being german). however, where there is lots of shadow there is also lots of light...

and as for the australian, well, **** mate...i just came from bali...nonononononononoarghghghghghghghghghgh
than again im sure your nice :-)
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pretty sure the no sense of humor is exclusive to germany.........americans love to laugh and pay hand over fist to do so.

gullibility is a human trait - there is literally no nationality that is exempt from this.

the last i checked america is the top hand-out-giver in the world. so much so that we have problems because of it.

envy is another human trait.

i would concede , though, that americans really don't know what other countries have and continue to go through.
 
redman24 said:
it means that the australian tourists in bali are very intolerable in their primitive and disrespectful behaviour.similar to the germans and english in mallorca.
westerners are strange, my favourite people are indonesians, this is the only case where i can truly say that they are nice people as a whole.
in all other countries i have been ,you have a much larger spectrum of idiots/wankers/imbeciles etc.
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Aussies are terrible travellers in that regards. Its embarrassing sometimes. Ive been all over Europe and you can pick us from miles away. Still better behaved then the Brits though!

I was in Berlin a few weeks ago. Great people, very friendly and what an awesome city. The Germans cop it more then they should as do the yanks.

As for your stack, way over board. Spread that out over 8-12 weeks would be much more beneficial I think. And your gains should be easier to maintain.
 
actually, bali is the aussies mallorca...
i think what is simply the case is, that the primitive idiots all choose the same holiday destinations.i have also met some cool australians who said exactly what you were saying about feeling embarassed.its the same with me and fellow germans.
westerners just have to learn that they are not superior to everyone else, just because they have more money.
have you ever travelled any asian countries?what was your favourite european country?

as for my stack, i may consider it...lol
 
redman24 said:
actually, bali is the aussies mallorca...
i think what is simply the case is, that the primitive idiots all choose the same holiday destinations.i have also met some cool australians who said exactly what you were saying about feeling embarassed.its the same with me and fellow germans.
westerners just have to learn that they are not superior to everyone else, just because they have more money.
have you ever travelled any asian countries?what was your favourite european country?

as for my stack, i may consider it...lol
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Was in Phuket for a few days last month for a mates wedding. Not the nicest part of Thailand thats for sure but had a blast. Drunk aussies everywhere I tell ya.

Ibiza is hard to beat for a party destination and Barcelona is friggin awesome for a city to go to in the summer. The woman are stunning!
 
indonesian women are incredible, and very uncomplicated.if she smiles at you you can just go over and tell her that you think she is cute/pretty whatever, then she will give you a huge happy smile and marry you.hehe
also they are different from thais since they are more similar to westerners but much nicer, just as nice as indians but less stressful.
and the women have softer skin than white women.very hard to go back haha
and no, they are not all hookers :-)
time for a bali vacation mate.:-)))
 
This is TRULY hilarious, here is OP taking almost 10 supplements at once. Jeezus christ, for half the amount you can just get test and obtain 10000x more gains. What a sap.
 
Australian made said:
Was in Phuket for a few days last month for a mates wedding. Not the nicest part of Thailand thats for sure but had a blast. Drunk aussies everywhere I tell ya.

Ibiza is hard to beat for a party destination and Barcelona is friggin awesome for a city to go to in the summer. The woman are stunning!
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i dream of going to ibezza!!!
 
most of the "****" is known, even if not so much in the west.
you are entitled to your opinion and aversion against supplements, yet i ask you to understand that some people care about staying steroid free.
 
day 14 observations:
-i could kill someone (i think thats just my way of motivating myself while still not being 100%)
-before being sick i weighed between 76-77 kilos at 6% bodyfat.
2 weeks ago i weighed 78 kilos at godknowswhat maybe 11-12%
today i weighed 79kilos while i have been on a caloric deficit and am probably around 9% bodyfat.so i am gaining weight while cutting.
-normally my lat pulldown increases around 2 reps or 5 pounds per session(memory effect).today i had a 4 rep increase.

i think this will be good.just have to make sure i dont overdo it too quickly, the first few sessions i could barely stand without fainting, today i was almost back at my regular intensity.have to pace myself.
 
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