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The New Product Release Thread

The_Old_Guy said:
Remember when Ice Cream used to be an *actual* 1/2 Gallon? Who decided that 'month supplies' were no longer 30 servings? Let me guess: "Well, nobody lifts weights 7 days a week, so you do get a month..."
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Even at my six days a week, twenty servings is no month, ESPECIALLY if I'm short on work hours and squeeze in a couple two-a-days. Oh, and this same thing happens to juice. It's to trick people into not noticing rampant inflation as much. They raise the price some and cut some product out.
 
Danes said:
I am not sure who that guy is, but it seems like a Guru to me :D
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hes like a jedi hermit or something-

a legend some say, those who cross him have never been seen again
 
Danes said:
Correct.
And not to mention those underdosed PWOs with 10-20 underdosed ingredients. Whats the point? Hey its just 30$ right ?
1.buy bulk and make own PWO
2.Buy a PWO containing rather less ingredients but full dosed!

My "PWO"
Solid dose of :
-Citrulline
-Betaine
-Beta Alanine
-Creatine

Pre/during/post:
1litre water with 50g HBCD,20g BCAA and 50g Peptopro

Cheaper than buying many of those underdosed and expensive PWOs
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What are you dosing those ingredients at?

My PWO has
6g of citrulline malate
4g of Beta alanine
2.5g betaine
4g of BCAAs

And a bunch of other stuff
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Haha, there's a PLETHORA of pre-workouts on the market that are anywhere from a few to a f**k-ton of random ingredients that are either useless (arginine) or terribly under-dosed (a few hundred mgs of citrulline or beetroot), and then a few dirt-cheap ingredients that you'll "feel" (caffeine and beta alanine being the obvious two). In fact, I'm willing to bet that if you replaced many of these supplments with 1.6-3.2g beta alanine and 200-400mg caffeine and some flavoring, most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference, since those are the only ingredients that are doing anything anyway. Plus, they'd save a ton of money that way; beta alanine and caffeine tabs (assuming people don't want to have to use a scale with caffeine powder) are dirt cheap, and don't even really need flavoring. Maybe throw in some niacin so they really "feel" it (although I did find the warm niacin flush to be useful when I was working out in a very cold gym, haha). I'm pretty white, but if I take enough I look like I got a bad sunburn. Instant tan.
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Yea, those sexy product fillers !
Usplabs MaxReps is actually a product I found very "clean". Few ingredients but dosed well. No fillers etc
 
Gwyndane said:
this, most 30 sev pres that inkow of are underdosed

however, i would also prefer to see 30 sev pres, well dosed ofc
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A great example of this is the Jay Cutler PWO. I got some samples of this and three scoops barely woke me up.

The newest version of Game Day, or the ESP with AMP will give you your full 30 servings. If you stay away from the big scoop you can get even more from the ESP.
 
saywutrly said:
A great example of this is the Jay Cutler PWO. I got some samples of this and three scoops barely woke me up.

The newest version of Game Day, or the ESP with AMP will give you your full 30 servings. If you stay away from the big scoop you can get even more from the ESP.
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Was it the newer Legend Pro because it was much stronger than the orig Legend

I like God of War RED by Centurion a lot more than the ones you mentioned as stims/focus go much harder hitting tho that E.S.P apple is redic good tasting! Waiting for my God of Rage Warpath apple to get to me yet O.o


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Rocket3015 said:
Not sure how New this product is but I just tried it for the first time and thought it was very good. Just like eating a bar of Raw Cookie Dough, soft, chewy and taste just like cookie dough, this is a winner!!
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Not sure what happened there ??
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raul87 said:
Hmmmmm I've seen that people go as high as 8g of CM and I've been debating on buying some bulk and adding 2g to what I'm using.
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It looks like it's 6g of 2:1, so that should be fine. I only take 8g when it's 1:1, but it's preference really, and I'm a relatively light guy.

Danes said:
Yea, those sexy product fillers !
Usplabs MaxReps is actually a product I found very "clean". Few ingredients but dosed well. No fillers etc
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I've been using less and less pre-workouts and pre-workout ingredients in favor of just having more of an adaptogen/stimulant based blend as my pre-workout lately (since I'm not lifting on days that I need my nootropic blend for classes, I'm just using the same thing as my pre-workout). It gives me energy and focus, and things like rhodiola, choline, caffeine, and taurine still have performance benefits in the context of a pre-workout.
 
Rob1882 said:
Was it the newer Legend Pro because it was much stronger than the orig Legend

I like God of War RED by Centurion a lot more than the ones you mentioned as stims/focus go much harder hitting tho that E.S.P apple is redic good tasting! Waiting for my God of Rage Warpath apple to get to me yet O.o


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Holy stimulants.
 
Rob1882 said:
Was it the newer Legend Pro because it was much stronger than the orig Legend

I like God of War RED by Centurion a lot more than the ones you mentioned as stims/focus go much harder hitting tho that E.S.P apple is redic good tasting! Waiting for my God of Rage Warpath apple to get to me yet O.o
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I'll second the ESP flavoring. Watermelon is also tasty once you get past the sweet. Their blue razz is a miss, though. And this was the original Legend. I haven't tried the new one.
 
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Need to try Centurion's stuff. I have a friend back home who owns a supplement store and basically worships the stuff. Basically relies on their Legion 1,3.
Only thing that's held me back is the price tags.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Holy stimulants.
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Danes said:
Holy flying high feeling :D
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saywutrly said:
Yeah, Jesus Christmas. Mixing that many stimulants gets me sketched out. I've seen too much wacky **** happen to people when mixing too many stims.
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Haha

I have been using this of their's which is the God of War RED it's slightly lower & using AMP Cit I cycle between this and Dust V2 atm

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Label on what I currently use - So I am no stranger to stims that is for sure! I like Dust V2 a good bit and was a bigger fan of Angel Dust which had AMP Cit I still have tubs of that in the peach flavor I use from time to time! :) But I like that all of these are using lower-mod caffeine vs many that are using 400-500mg caffeine I would rather the inclusion of Amp, 1,3 or other stim blends than just stacks and stacks of caffeine.


BamBam0319 said:
Need to try Centurion's stuff. I have a friend back home who owns a supplement store and basically worships the stuff. Basically relies on their Legion 1,3.
Only thing that's held me back is the price tags.
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Legion 1,3 is GOAT

I have that as well that is fairly new; and I <3 noopept
 
Danes said:
Holy flying high feeling :D
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Perhaps I've just managed to be somewhat responsible in not building up an insane stimulant tolerance, haha.

saywutrly said:
Yeah, Jesus Christmas. Mixing that many stimulants gets me sketched out. I've seen too much wacky **** happen to people when mixing too many stims.
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I feel the same way. I personally don't go over 250mg caffeine and 50mg DMAA (and that's with those as the only stims, and with theanine as well). I just don't see a need, and I wouldn't advise most people to take caffeine, DMAA, yohimbine, and synephrine together. I know when I take too many stims, my workout performance declines.
Rob1882 said:
Haha

I have been using this of their's which is the God of War RED it's slightly lower & using AMP Cit I cycle between this and Dust V2 atm

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Label on what I currently use - So I am no stranger to stims that is for sure! I like Dust V2 a good bit and was a bigger fan of Angel Dust which had AMP Cit I still have tubs of that in the peach flavor I use from time to time! :) But I like that all of these are using lower-mod caffeine vs many that are using 400-500mg caffeine I would rather the inclusion of Amp, 1,3 or other stim blends than just stacks and stacks of caffeine.




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Legion 1,3 is GOAT

I have that as well that is fairly new
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I'm not a fan of 400+ mg caffeine either (especially combined with other ingredients), but when did 250-300mg caffeine + 50mg DMAA become not nearly strong enough?
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Perhaps I've just managed to be somewhat responsible in not building up an insane stimulant tolerance, haha.


I feel the same way. I personally don't go over 250mg caffeine and 50mg DMAA (and that's with those as the only stims, and with theanine as well). I just don't see a need, and I wouldn't advise most people to take caffeine, DMAA, yohimbine, and synephrine together. I know when I take too many stims, my workout performance declines.

I'm not a fan of 400+ mg caffeine either (especially combined with other ingredients), but when did 250-300mg caffeine + 50mg DMAA become not nearly strong enough?
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Woah I never said it wasn't strong enough haha I use 1 scoop of them Centurion pre's and they deliver!

The ones I listed is as high as I go for a pre workout is all
 
Rob1882 said:
Woah I never said it wasn't strong enough haha I use 1 scoop of them Centurion pre's and they deliver!
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Haha, I hope that 1 scoop of those are enough; I'm talking 250-300mg caffeine and 50mg DMAA being the ONLY stimulants needed, haha.

And isn't is frowned upon to call methylhexaneamine "geranium extract" nowadays? Or is that an old label?
 
i would like to try most of this, just the caffeine content. i only have a cup a day, dont crave it, just with the wife. something about your heart pounding 100 times faster and jitters. imo, just seems like at some point, you will become non-responsive to the supp or have to take more. in the end all your doing is taking more of a stim, which seems like the end goal to sell more product.

i know people need/like it- but hey if it works for you, that is all that matters.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Haha, I hope that 1 scoop of those are enough; I'm talking 250-300mg caffeine and 50mg DMAA being the ONLY stimulants needed, haha.

And isn't is frowned upon to call methylhexaneamine "geranium extract" nowadays? Or is that an old label?
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APS also does it with Mesomorph up till at least a couple months ago when I bought my most recent can of it.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Haha, I hope that 1 scoop of those are enough; I'm talking 250-300mg caffeine and 50mg DMAA being the ONLY stimulants needed, haha.

And isn't is frowned upon to call methylhexaneamine "geranium extract" nowadays? Or is that an old label?
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Unsure tbh I assume the person who did the label for Legion and the label from God of Rage was different unsure why the difference, I am tempted to reach out and ask them and had wondered that myself when I picked it up.

But the current bottle I have is the same unsure if they have since done a newer label or not

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APS also does it with Mesomorph up till at least a couple months ago when I bought my most recent can of it.
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I need to try that rocket pop so bad O.o
 
saywutrly said:
Yeah, Jesus Christmas. Mixing that many stimulants gets me sketched out. I've seen too much wacky **** happen to people when mixing too many stims.
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Borderline legal meth is what that looks like. Comedown crash would be so bad off that

I would like to try a lot of the centurion stuff but they only push there stuff to brick and motor stores which keeps prices high af if you can even find a store stocking it. None around me do.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
Haha, I hope that 1 scoop of those are enough; I'm talking 250-300mg caffeine and 50mg DMAA being the ONLY stimulants needed, haha.

And isn't is frowned upon to call methylhexaneamine "geranium extract" nowadays? Or is that an old label?
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Clear your inbox :)
 
corbin said:
Borderline legal meth is what that looks like. Comedown crash would be so bad off that

I would like to try a lot of the centurion stuff but they only push there stuff to brick and motor stores which keeps prices high af if you can even find a store stocking it. None around me do.
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This isn't far from the truth. The PWO I'm using right now gives me a lot of amphetamine-reminiscent feelings. Body feels/random rushes of euphoria, attitude, and the crash all remind me of such, just not so pronounced.
 
BamBam0319 said:
Haha, if it ever goes down to 15 serving tubs I'll do what I should've done a long time ago and go to real food and AAS only ;)
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government regulations on anabolics has and is going to make criminals out of otherwise law abiding citizens...if the government keeps banning everything that works legally many have and will turn to the dark side.....government idiots should have learned their lesson with alcohol, if people want something they will find a way to get it!!!
 
Pec.Major said:
How do you eat your Broccoli? Just straight up raw like a savage? :D
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steamed - wolf it down, then quietly sit next to someone, pretending all is well. at the least expecting moment, UNLEASH THE FURY, blame the dog and run away
 
Pec.Major said:
How do you eat your Broccoli? Just straight up raw like a savage? :D
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If you can afford the fats, raw broccoli dipped in ranch makes for an E****LENT snack.
Although I believe for the nutrients in broccoli to be better bioavailable, it has to be cooked?
 
BamBam0319 said:
If you can afford the fats, raw broccoli dipped in ranch makes for an E****LENT snack.
Although I believe for the nutrients in broccoli to be better bioavailable, it has to be cooked?
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I think the best way is to steam it, best for the nutrients and taste. I usually just boil it. Or buy prepared steamed broccoli with added sea salt and olive oil. They taste really good. Expensive though.
 
I've been in AU for almost 2 weeks. Trying to find a wife. Haha. We have an office in AU and will be doing manufacturing here soon. I will leave after the Arnold next weekend.
 
1Fast400 said:
I've been in AU for almost 2 weeks. Trying to find a wife. Haha. We have an office in AU and will be doing manufacturing here soon. I will leave after the Arnold next weekend.
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maybe you can partner up with mts. he has a good presence already in au. he can give you pointers. rofl
 
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