The New Product Release Thread

Gwyndane said:
gonna love how gimmicky those hitech names are
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dave39 said:
I feel like the product looks like a cheap rip off and doesn't inspire buyer confidence.
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Somethings seems to be working for HT considering how well it sells across the country, in big box stores like CVS, Walgreens, and GNC.



I personally don't look at labels very much, but am only curious as to whats on the nutritional panel. In this instance you get a prohormone to testosterone, and a really popular compound in Laxogenin. I think I'm going to give this one a whirl on my next rep order.
 
what is funny is anyone saying hi tech's products are a copy of anything considering they license and manufacture for just about everyone.
 
gateway88 said:
what is funny is anyone saying hi tech's products are a copy of anything considering they license and manufacture for just about everyone.
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haha agreed. It will take some time to reverse the view of HiTech on the forums, but I am confident we can do it. We make products for a LOT of the favorite companies on this forum(and all others), as well as make some really hardcore products throughout our own lines.
 
gateway88 said:
wtf are you talking about
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I'm talking about the fact that the product is named after an actual steroid. The labels obviously work for marketing as people buy these products but they just look so sketchy. Every uninformed 17 year old out there would look at the product and buy it just out of hope that it might have some effect similar to anadrol.

With that said I would never purchase a product with a label like this because it screams desperate marketing.

The products clearly sell to some though.
 
dave39 said:
I'm talking about the fact that the product is named after an actual steroid. The labels obviously work for marketing as people buy these products but they just look so sketchy. Every uninformed 17 year old out there would look at the product and buy it just out of hope that it might have some effect similar to anadrol.
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in others words, what everyone else has been doing for over 10 years.

anadrol and androdiol are two very different names. it simply is putting andro in the name because thats what it is.

now gaspari novadex is more along your line of criticism.
 
Gwyndane said:
i didnt say anything bad about the formulas, but they have products like: anavar, dianabol, jackd up .... lol.....
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dave39 said:
I'm talking about the fact that the product is named after an actual steroid. The labels obviously work for marketing as people buy these products but they just look so sketchy. Every uninformed 17 year old out there would look at the product and buy it just out of hope that it might have some effect similar to anadrol.

With that said I would never purchase a product with a label like this because it screams desperate marketing.

The products clearly sell to some though.
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The difference between HiTech and other companies with "steroid like names" is HiTech purchased the ownership of these product names. Dianabol, Sustanon, etc were all owned by Pharmaceutical companies. Instead of making up nonsense names like Trenavar or Superdrol, HiTech put its money where it's mouth is and used ACTUAL names. Pretty cool IMO.
 
gateway88 said:
what is funny is anyone saying hi tech's products are a copy of anything considering they license and manufacture for just about everyone.
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So licensing and manufacturing is now the same as formulating? With the lack of imagination and sheer cynicism HT is displaying with these names, I doubt they have the capability of formulating something of real quality and integrity by themselves.

BTW I love how now Hi-Tech is becoming an accepted brand all of a sudden. I'm sure even by some who were spitting venom all over it less than a year ago. This supplement world really is full of spineless sheep.
 
gateway88 said:
in others words, what everyone else has been doing for over 10 years.

anadrol and androdiol are two very different names. it simply is putting andro in the name because thats what it is.

now gaspari novadex is more along your line of criticism.
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but their labels are so flashy and pretty...must be a better brand of products :frustrate
 
VaughnTrue said:
The difference between HiTech and other companies with "steroid like names" is HiTech purchased the ownership of these product names. Dianabol, Sustanon, etc were all owned by Pharmaceutical companies. Instead of making up nonsense names like Trenavar or Superdrol, HiTech put its money where it's mouth is and used ACTUAL names. Pretty cool IMO.
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now i understand why they didnt simply call their jackedup jack3d
 
Rushie said:
So licensing and manufacturing is now the same as formulating? With the lack of imagination and sheer cynicism HT is displaying with these names, I doubt they have the capability of formulating something of real quality and integrity by themselves.

BTW I love how now Hi-Tech is becoming an accepted brand all of a sudden. I'm sure even by some who were spitting venom all over it less than a year ago. This supplement world really is full of spineless sheep.
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Can you give me some insight as to why you dislike HiTech so much? I understand everyone has a right to their opinion, but I just don't get it.
 
VaughnTrue said:
The difference between HiTech and other companies with "steroid like names" is HiTech purchased the ownership of these product names. Dianabol, Sustanon, etc were all owned by Pharmaceutical companies. Instead of making up nonsense names like Trenavar or Superdrol, HiTech put its money where it's mouth is and used ACTUAL names. Pretty cool IMO.
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Of course you think it's cool. Must not upset the boss man.
 
Rushie said:
So licensing and manufacturing is now the same as formulating? With the lack of imagination and sheer cynicism HT is displaying with these names, I doubt they have the capability of formulating something of real quality and integrity by themselves.

BTW I love how now Hi-Tech is becoming an accepted brand all of a sudden. I'm sure even by some who were spitting venom all over it less than a year ago. This supplement world really is full of spineless sheep.
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where did i say that? someone said ripoff. How can someone ripoff something when they own the licensing rights to it you ****in idiot.

hi tech isn't even talked about around here. go be miserable someplace else.
 
VaughnTrue said:
Can you give me some insight as to why you dislike HiTech so much? I understand everyone has a right to their opinion, but I just don't get it.
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I find nothing to like about the brand. OTOH their marketing and business pactices exhibit all the cynicism, greed and do-anything-for-the-buck mentality that completely turns me off.
 
Rushie said:
I find nothing to like about the brand. OTOH their marketing and business pactices exhibit all the cynicism, greed and do-anything-for-the-buck mentality that completely turns me off.
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HiTech products definitely aren't targeted for most forum users, but I've seen them changing their technique lately. They've been the first to market with many ingredients over the past few years, and are the only ones standing up to the FDA on key factors like 1,3 dimethyl.

What about HiTech business practices and marketing exhibit "all the cynicism, greed, and do-anything-for-the-buck mentality" are different from any other supplement companies? I am genuinely curious about your opinion, I just haven't seen anything about HT that shows me they're any different about their "business practices" than anyone out there. Do you have any examples?
 
VaughnTrue said:
HiTech products definitely aren't targeted for most forum users, but I've seen them changing their technique lately. They've been the first to market with many ingredients over the past few years, and are the only ones standing up to the FDA on key factors like 1,3 dimethyl.

What about HiTech business practices and marketing exhibit "all the cynicism, greed, and do-anything-for-the-buck mentality" are different from any other supplement companies? I am genuinely curious about your opinion, I just haven't seen anything about HT that shows me they're any different about their "business practices" than anyone out there. Do you have any examples?
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No, thank you. I have no intention getting into a debate on this subject. Let's just agree to happily co-exist. God knows Hi-tech won't miss my lack of purchases. :)
 
VaughnTrue said:
HiTech products definitely aren't targeted for most forum users, but I've seen them changing their technique lately. They've been the first to market with many ingredients over the past few years, and are the only ones standing up to the FDA on key factors like 1,3 dimethyl.

What about HiTech business practices and marketing exhibit "all the cynicism, greed, and do-anything-for-the-buck mentality" are different from any other supplement companies? I am genuinely curious about your opinion, I just haven't seen anything about HT that shows me they're any different about their "business practices" than anyone out there. Do you have any examples?
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Can you explain this statement??
 
VaughnTrue said:
HiTech products definitely aren't targeted for most forum users, but I've seen them changing their technique lately. They've been the first to market with many ingredients over the past few years, and are the only ones standing up to the FDA on key factors like 1,3 dimethyl.

What about HiTech business practices and marketing exhibit "all the cynicism, greed, and do-anything-for-the-buck mentality" are different from any other supplement companies? I am genuinely curious about your opinion, I just haven't seen anything about HT that shows me they're any different about their "business practices" than anyone out there. Do you have any examples?
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Better than pixie dusting promises that is soo common in the supplement industry as a whole.

I have minimal knowledge of hi tech except the two sups I've bought from them and one I received in a promo. All delivered that's all that matters.

I don't understand the whole bio grow thing. Why throw it into every product keep servings low and charge a premium.
 
VaughnTrue said:
The difference between HiTech and other companies with "steroid like names" is HiTech purchased the ownership of these product names. Dianabol, Sustanon, etc were all owned by Pharmaceutical companies. Instead of making up nonsense names like Trenavar or Superdrol, HiTech put its money where it's mouth is and used ACTUAL names. Pretty cool IMO.
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I wouldn't call it cool. I would call it sneaky. It's marketing a false hope.
 
WAF said:
Can you explain this statement??
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Most forum users do not represent the average supplement consumer. Think about popular products that you see in stores like GNC/VS...most of those products would get trashed here on the forum.

HiTech's products have predominantly been formulas/marketing that appeals to the masses, instead of the small niche forum goers.

dave39 said:
I wouldn't call it cool. I would call it sneaky. It's marketing a false hope.
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While I see where you're coming from there, do you believe that there has been an adult who has walked into a store/shopped online and thought to himself "I am literally buying the illegal drug dianabol/d-bol right now!" in reference to the HiTech product?
 
Rushie said:
No, thank you. I have no intention getting into a debate on this subject. Let's just agree to happily co-exist. God knows Hi-tech won't miss my lack of purchases. :)
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Not trying to debate. I'm just trying to get insight so I can try and help HiTech improve.
 
Gwyndane said:
ignorance is bliss
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I suppose. Every jumps to, "they funded the study so the claims are moot." To have a study published and conducted takes funds.

Guess who else does this? Numerous other supplement companies.
 
VaughnTrue said:
Most forum users do not represent the average supplement consumer. Think about popular products that you see in stores like GNC/VS...most of those products would get trashed here on the forum.

HiTech's products have predominantly been formulas/marketing that appeals to the masses, instead of the small niche forum goers.



While I see where you're coming from there, do you believe that there has been an adult who has walked into a store/shopped online and thought to himself "I am literally buying the illegal drug dianabol/d-bol right now!" in reference to the HiTech product?
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you don't seem to understand, your marketing has to take into account every dumb moron who might think it is. only then, will you appeal to those with purity at heart. you know, dave.
 
tyga tyga said:
I suppose. Every jumps to, "they funded the study so the claims are moot." To have a study published and conducted takes funds.

Guess who else does this? Numerous other supplement companies.
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it doesn't take that much.

a double blind placebo controlled independent peer review study takes an assload of money. there is a big difference.
 
gateway88 said:
you don't seem to understand, your marketing has to take into account every dumb moron who might think it is. only then, will you appeal to those with purity at heart. you know, dave.
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so wouldn't that mean that EVERY product with a steroid like name is at fault for this exact issue?

Hell, IFN's Dymethazine was almost identical to the original name of Dimethazine, yet no one called foul on us back in 2009.

Every single "Tren" product on the market.

Methastadrol, D-Stianozol, Oxodrol...


what about the SARM market who use near identical names as well?





While I understand your issue here(I disagree, but I completely see your point of view), to say this is unique to HiTech just isn't true. Wonky names are EVERYWHERE in this industry.
 
VaughnTrue said:
Most forum users do not represent the average supplement consumer. Think about popular products that you see in stores like GNC/VS...most of those products would get trashed here on the forum.

HiTech's products have predominantly been formulas/marketing that appeals to the masses, instead of the small niche forum goers.
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Just my point of view but it seems like your targeting uninformed masses, and the informed "small niche" you don't want anything too do with for probably good reason. As I said this I my point of view on your comments.
 
WAF said:
Just my point of view but it seems like your targeting uninformed masses, and the informed "small niche" you don't want anything too do with for probably good reason. As I said this I my point of view on your comments.
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To be honest, I think almost every supplement company markets to the uninformed masses, because they are the easiest sells.


Now, that being said, regardless of the marketing(what do you mean by this? the magazine ads? the labels themselves?), a good portion of HiTech products are really well formulated if you take a look at them. I'm not a fan of all their products, but I'm not a fan of any one companies entire line.
 
VaughnTrue said:
so wouldn't that mean that EVERY product with a steroid like name is at fault for this exact issue?
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yes. its a stupid argument. its the same people who will bash you yet buy sarms, methyl ph's, research ****, and everything else under the sun. but name a PH androdiol when you own the ****in rights to the name and you're the ****ing devil.

just stupid.
 
VaughnTrue said:
To be honest, I think almost every supplement company markets to the uninformed masses, because they are the easiest sells.


Now, that being said, regardless of the marketing(what do you mean by this? the magazine ads? the labels themselves?), a good portion of HiTech products are really well formulated if you take a look at them. I'm not a fan of all their products, but I'm not a fan of any one companies entire line.
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I'm only going by what your comments have been. I've honestly never looked into your products because of the names, if I want that name whatever the claim it is i'd get the real stuff "AAS".
 
Guys, once again, this thread is about new product announcements. You certainly can discuss marketing and individual companies in other threads or you can make you own, but please keep this one on track with just new product releases. Thank you.
 
Rushie said:
Get rid of Jared Wheat. That would be a massive step forward. :)
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Ok, so beyond your dislike for the owner, what do you dislike about HiTech?


Nothing I say can change your view of Jared, so that's fine. We all get to have our opinions. However, 1 person doesn't make a company, nor does 1 person represent the company as a whole. Jared's past is Jared's past...has he or HiTech done anything to make you think the products they produce contain things other than on the label? Low quality ingredients? Substandard manufacturing processes? Snafus with FDA Audits? Because I have not seen a single instance of anything like that thankfully.
 
WAF said:
I'm only going by what your comments have been. I've honestly never looked into your products because of the names, if I want that name whatever the claim it is i'd get the real stuff "AAS".
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definitely give a look to some of the products. You know the old saying, "don't judge a book by it's cover"
 
Admin said:
Guys, once again, this thread is about new product announcements. You certainly can discuss marketing and individual companies in other threads or you can make you own, but please keep this one on track with just new product releases. Thank you.
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10-4...can you start a thread titles "Hi, I'm here for the gangbang...lets discuss why ____'s marketing blows!" LOL it sure would be entertaining on a day like today!
 
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