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The New Product Release Thread

BamBam0319 said:
Interesting. Why not STL, columbia, or KC lol or even Jeff city
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MuscleForce will be nationwide brother. The owners of the store are from this area though and they are relatively new. I'm sure the stores will expand in due time though. Is there not any private supplement stores up in those areas?
 
Bossmoss94 said:
MuscleForce will be nationwide brother. The owners of the store are from this area though and they are relatively new. I'm sure the stores will expand in due time though. Is there not any private supplement stores up in those areas?
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I gotcha. I go to school at mizzou and the most "local" store there is nutrishop so no. STL is a huge area, and obviously has a lot of private stores. Dunno about KC or Jeff city
 
BamBam0319 said:
I gotcha. I go to school at mizzou and the most "local" store there is nutrishop so no. STL is a huge area, and obviously has a lot of private stores. Dunno about KC or Jeff city
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Damn dude that blows. S2 dominates STL. Sounds like Columbia/Jeff would be a good area. Anyways, off of the thread topic.

Give @teamMuscleForce to stay updated on product releases and stuff. We're not one of those ****ty Facebook ad Preworkouts you see, I can promise you that.
 
Bossmoss94 said:
Damn dude that blows. S2 dominates STL. Sounds like Columbia/Jeff would be a good area. Anyways, off of the thread topic.

Give @teamMuscleForce to stay updated on product releases and stuff. We're not one of those ****ty Facebook ad Preworkouts you see, I can promise you that.
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I'll follow along for sure.
 
S’mores Nitro-Tech confirmed as well as Cinnamon
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NewAgeMayan said:
Are people dosing xtend perform as per the old xtend dosing-by-bodyweight chart, or 1scooping it regardless
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The bodyweight chart was inaccurate IMO
What was it 6 scoops if you were 200 pounds? That would be too much . 2 scoops would be fine as a dose between meals or prior to fasted training.
 
Bossmoss94 said:
I work at Supplement store in Missouri. We're releasing our own product line. Give our IG page a follow @teammuscleforce
Our first product which is being released within the next week or so is called Defiant. Has Orchilean & ArcoFuel at max doses. Plus all the regular preworkout goodies. I can't give the specifics on ingredients until it is released. Just know that it is better than any pwo I have ever taken. Beats Dust. Beats Savage Roar. Beats EWP. Beats anything and everything. Don't wanna promote cause that's annoying. Just letting you guys know we have a kick-ass pre coming out that is formulated in the same warehouse as Run Everything, Blackstone, Dynamik, etc. MuscleForce Defiant. Give MuscleForce a follow on IG ?
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I'm curious to know what a "max dose" of ArcoFuel is given the safety concerns (I'm not going to get into that here and I'm not giving any opinion regarding it though) some people have with it. Interested in seeing the profile for sure.
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I'm curious to know what a "max dose" of ArcoFuel is given the safety concerns (I'm not going to get into that here and I'm not giving any opinion regarding it though) some people have with it. Interested in seeing the profile for sure.
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We're not going overboard with it! Haha. It's a killer combo though. Thought the Arco & Orch would be too much together but it's great. And as to the safety concerns, I read about those as well and if I'm not mistaken, the rats were given an amount that the human equivalence would be an insane amount to consume. Could be wrong though.
When it's released I'll be putting the profile in here for discussion on what you all think!
 
Chefdeez said:
Any update on this?
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I agree with him. If they haven't been pulled down yet, go back on his and MassiveShills (Joes) YouTube channel and look for a review of a *clearly spiked* ProSupps Whey (about 1-1.5 years ago maybe?). Then watch them both lie right to your face - especially Lobliner reading a Lab Analysis that *for some reason :rolleyes: * didn't include assays on Glycine or Taurine. I occasionally used Clash as a base until I saw that video.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
I agree with him. If they haven't been pulled down yet, go back on his and MassiveShills (Joes) YouTube channel and look for a review of a *clearly spiked* ProSupps Whey (about 1-1.5 years ago maybe?). Then watch them both lie right to your face - especially Lobliner reading a Lab Analysis that *for some reason :rolleyes: * didn't include assays on Glycine or Taurine. I occasionally used Clash as a base until I saw that video.
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I believe you. I'll see if I can find the video. I've used his whey for a while and always enjoyed it.
 
Bossmoss94 said:
We're not going overboard with it! Haha. It's a killer combo though. Thought the Arco & Orch would be too much together but it's great. And as to the safety concerns, I read about those as well and if I'm not mistaken, the rats were given an amount that the human equivalence would be an insane amount to consume. Could be wrong though.
When it's released I'll be putting the profile in here for discussion on what you all think!
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I recall one of the more discussed study giving 1mg/day to 6-week-old male winstar rats (I didn't see their weight listed, but it's typically about 100g). Converted based on BSA for a 60kg human, that's about 96mg. Granted, 43% of these rats ended up developing tumors, compared to only 5% in the untreated group. A safety factor of 10 is common (higher amounts are often employed when severe toxicity is noted), so there's no way I'd personally touch even 10mg. Now, I'm not saying 10mg is going to have deleterious effects on humans, just that the potential risk outweighs the reward for me. Again, I'm not saying that arecoline is bad for you, just explaining why some people are concerned (with actual numbers).
 
muscleupcrohn said:
I recall one of the more discussed study giving 1mg/day to 6-week-old male winstar rats (I didn't see their weight listed, but it's typically about 100g). Converted based on BSA for a 60kg human, that's about 96mg. Granted, 43% of these rats ended up developing tumors, compared to only 5% in the untreated group. A safety factor of 10 is common (higher amounts are often employed when severe toxicity is noted), so there's no way I'd personally touch even 10mg. Now, I'm not saying 10mg is going to have deleterious effects on humans, just that the potential risk outweighs the reward for me. Again, I'm not saying that arecoline is bad for you, just explaining why some people are concerned (with actual numbers).
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It's also extremely addictive. One study (let me dig it up) had it on par with nicotine. I won't touch the stuff personally.
 
Chefdeez said:
It's also extremely addictive. One study (let me dig it up) had it on par with nicotine. I won't touch the stuff personally.
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Most Preworkouts or fat burners that I've seen it in have only had 3mg or so. Dust V2 has it. and the old Eviscerate and DTE formulas had it as well (they have moved on to reformulated with Orchilean at 125mg). I understand why people don't wanna touch it though for sure. Smaller guys that take Dust in my store even say that they're addicted to it to the point where they wanna drink it for more than just their preworkout haha.
 
Are we talking Aerocholine Hydrobromide again? Km Factors for Mice and Rats are 3.0 and 5.9(6) respectively. Human is 37. Mg/Kg x Km (Animal) / Km (Human) = HED

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Chefdeez said:
Any update on this?
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I really don't want to get into a pissing match currently, however my personal opinion stands. I find Marc to be the absolute slimiest person I have dealt with in this industry, and I have dealt with a LOT of people over the past 10 years
 
Oh, and adding to my previous comment, saying that other stimulants (caffeine, yohimbine HCL, etc) are dangerous at 10x the recommended dose would be a faulty argument; while technically true, we have evidence that the doses used in supplements are safe, while I am aware of no such information on arecoline. Perhaps research in the future will show little to no dangers with ~3mg, but until then, it seem unnecessary to risk it given that there are many other alternative stimulants out there.
 
VaughnTrue said:
I really don't want to get into a pissing match currently, however my personal opinion stands. I find Marc to be the absolute slimiest person I have dealt with in this industry, and I have dealt with a LOT of people over the past 10 years
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I believe you. I value your opinion a lot which is why I was curious.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Are we talking Aerocholine Hydrobromide again? Km Factors for Mice and Rats are 3.0 and 5.9(6) respectively. Human is 37. Mg/Kg x Km (Animal) / Km (Human) = HED

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Yeah. That's what I used in my above posts. Multiply the mg/kg for rats by 0.16, or 0.08 for mice.
 
OL to debut new flavors
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Those options are Orange Creamsicle Sorbet and Peaches N’ Cream Sorbet. Olympus Labs is now getting ready to more than double the size of Triumph’s menu as it has put together three new flavors for it.

Joining the originals Orange Creamsicle and Peaches N’ Cream Sorbet are Berry Cherry, Strawberry Banana, and one that’ll make things a little more convenient for fans of the supplement, an Unflavored option
 
The Solution said:
OL to debut new flavors
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Those options are Orange Creamsicle Sorbet and Peaches N’ Cream Sorbet. Olympus Labs is now getting ready to more than double the size of Triumph’s menu as it has put together three new flavors for it.

Joining the originals Orange Creamsicle and Peaches N’ Cream Sorbet are Berry Cherry, Strawberry Banana, and one that’ll make things a little more convenient for fans of the supplement, an Unflavored option
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May have to see about these new flavors
 
VaughnTrue said:
I really don't want to get into a pissing match currently, however my personal opinion stands. I find Marc to be the absolute slimiest person I have dealt with in this industry, and I have dealt with a LOT of people over the past 10 years
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Bring back the old fights :)
Inb4 lawsuits
 
There is data at 14g of bcaa's and yes peak 02 was dosed at 4g a day for 21 days total in the study. Hence the two servings.
 
compan said:
I second, third, or forth the statement of not using supps with people's faces on them. When that is the case, they are selling their brand, not what is actually in the tub.
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That's what I'm saying! They just some how racked up a following and decided to throw together a product to make money after their BS T-shirts quit selling, just capitalizing off their minions. Literally anyone these days can put a supplement out there it's ridiculous. It's smart I guess because the markup on all supplements is like 120%. It doesn't cost sh*t to make.
 
polarcat said:
That's what I'm saying! They just some how racked up a following and decided to throw together a product to make money after their BS T-shirts quit selling, just capitalizing off their minions. Literally anyone these days can put a supplement out there it's ridiculous. It's smart I guess because the markup on all supplements is like 120%. It doesn't cost sh*t to make.
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While I agree that a lot of these ppl are shady...it's called branding! That's what companies do. Should people not eat Frosted Flakes because Tony the Tiger is on the box? It's no different.
 
Chefdeez said:
While I agree that a lot of these ppl are shady...it's called branding! That's what companies do. Should people not eat Frosted Flakes because Tony the Tiger is on the box? It's no different.
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Valid point on branding. Poor comparison though. Chris Jones and Tony the Tiger? SMH.
 
I like Tony The Tiger !!
 
The Solution said:
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Debut of Pronuts... Protein Donuts
After seeing the actual image of Pronuts above it’s almost impossible to believe their macros at 20g of protein, 8g of fat, 4g of net carbs and a very low calorie count of just 180.
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god i hope this is truth haha
 
Bossmoss94 said:
I've never had OL Pre before. Are they legit? What makes them better than others? Those flavors sound great.
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Triumph can be used pwo but isn't OL's signature pwo. That would be Conqu3r Unleashed, which is a great product. At 2 scoops I get very clean energy and great focus. I don't generally train for pumps, but I did about 12 weeks of PHAT over the winter and saw a noticeable difference in pumps and vascularity when using Conqu3r. The only flavor I enjoy is Lemon Rox. Kandy Krushed isn't bad, but Mango was horrible.
 
BRUstrong said:
Triumph can be used pwo but isn't OL's signature pwo. That would be Conqu3r Unleashed, which is a great product. At 2 scoops I get very clean energy and great focus. I don't generally train for pumps, but I did about 12 weeks of PHAT over the winter and saw a noticeable difference in pumps and vascularity when using Conqu3r. The only flavor I enjoy is Lemon Rox. Kandy Krushed isn't bad, but Mango was horrible.
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All the Conqu3r flavors have been improved recently.
 
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