The Maximus Pact

Yeah man, you’ve definitely put on some size…Good job.💪😎👍
Yep, thanks for noticing.

I’m currently still only 170lbs though but I plan on doing a winter bulk up to 200 and the cutting down.

How’s everything? I haven’t talked with you that much.
 
Day 87:

I’m back on the biking and sprints grind. I haven’t told you guys this but because of this work project I took this season of rugby off but will train hard to get my stamina and strength up and come back stronger than ever.

My squats and everything are going well, I’m pretty happy with it.

Today I was working out and there were a lot of high schoolers in the gym since my gym is near a high school. Some of the high schoolers were recording my sets of squats, and it made me think back to when I was amazed at people moving a lot of weight when I was younger. I take that as a huge compliment personally, they wouldn’t be recording me if I was weak.

Personally I have always stood by the fact that intense biking is the best quad hypertrophy exercise so I have really been hammering them and I see results already.
 

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All serious cyclists have massive quads, so logic checks out. It’s just tons and tons of volume that adds up.

I mean I knew a vegan hippie that was friends with my stepdaughter who came over to lift with her one time - she just rode her bike everywhere, so her quads were totally wild for someone who didn’t lift & utterly devoid of decent nutrition. Just ate small amounts of beans and veggies etc & very thin.

Pro tip: don’t focus on getting your bodyweight up to any particular final number. Instead focus on gaining something like 1lb per week or so for 4 months. This helps ensure you don’t bulk too fast (which would mean much more fat accumulation), as well as gives the new muscle you add some time to be around before you carefully start reversing the calories in spring. Gain 15-20 with less fat and have less to cut off later, vs 30lbs scale weight of mainly fat faster, in essence. You can only build actual muscle so fast.
 
All serious cyclists have massive quads, so logic checks out.
wildly true. I had a buddy who was about 10 years older than me ( so probably 45+ at the time) who pounded 4k calories a day minimum (maybe double on cycling days), had no upper body to speak of, weighed about 165lbs and had some of the biggest legs I'd ever seen in my life. probably never more than 10% bf.
 
My bench is completely absolutely hard stuck, it hasn’t gone up from 300 in the past 3 months. I’m getting really discouraged and don’t know what to do, I’ve been training bench so hard too, always putting it first and hammering it. I hammer my isolations and dips, overhead press, incline press and lat pulldowns too. Idk what I’m doing wrong.

Could it be because I only sleep 5 hours a night?

Honestly, I wouldn’t even say it’s hard stuck. It’s been going down consistently. A month ago I was hitting 280x4, 3 months ago I was hitting 275x5 and now I can only do 280x2 and 275x3.

Should I take a deload? But I already took a rest day earlier this week
 
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Ok what I will do is take a deload and prioritize stress management, going on walks and reading scripture. I’m gonna just do 1 set of most compounds for the next while and not to failure.

I need this too since I’ve been neglecting other aspects of my life for training.
 
Ok what I will do is take a deload and prioritize stress management, going on walks and reading scripture. I’m gonna just do 1 set of most compounds for the next while and not to failure.

I need this too since I’ve been neglecting other aspects of my life for training.
Yeah, sometimes your body is just letting you know to take a deload for a week and just go lighter on weights. And getting more sleep should help….maybe take some SNS Reduce XT to help with cortisol.
 
My bench is completely absolutely hard stuck, it hasn’t gone up from 300 in the past 3 months. I’m getting really discouraged and don’t know what to do, I’ve been training bench so hard too, always putting it first and hammering it. I hammer my isolations and dips, overhead press, incline press and lat pulldowns too. Idk what I’m doing wrong.

Could it be because I only sleep 5 hours a night?

Honestly, I wouldn’t even say it’s hard stuck. It’s been going down consistently. A month ago I was hitting 280x4, 3 months ago I was hitting 275x5 and now I can only do 280x2 and 275x3.

Should I take a deload? But I already took a rest day earlier this week

if its a top priority to you I'd really really get serious about studying and listening to @Hyde and @SkRaw85 as two of our premier benchers here. Every time someone tells me they are stuck at bench I ask them about their programming and they aren't following any specific programming.

I ran conjugate to break 300lbs, but I ran it religiously I stuck to a plan for months. Then I switched to Cube because I saw Hyde have good success with it I believe for his 400lb breakthrough. I think I enjoyed conjugate more, but Cube was a superior approach for me as my next PR was actually higher quality. my 300 would not have passed in competition but my 305 was legit.
 
if its a top priority to you I'd really really get serious about studying and listening to @Hyde and @SkRaw85 as two of our premier benchers here. Every time someone tells me they are stuck at bench I ask them about their programming and they aren't following any specific programming.

I ran conjugate to break 300lbs, but I ran it religiously I stuck to a plan for months. Then I switched to Cube because I saw Hyde have good success with it I believe for his 400lb breakthrough. I think I enjoyed conjugate more, but Cube was a superior approach for me as my next PR was actually higher quality. my 300 would not have passed in competition but my 305 was legit.
Yep this 👆Hyde and SkRaw would definitely give you the best advice for programming to increase bench.
 
Maaaaasn, first thing I’d do is get that sleep in order. Doesn’t matter how hard you go, 5 hrs a night is not sufficient. Gotta repair…
 
I work a labour job and I’m up at 4:30 am, it’s pretty difficult to get more sleep than that.
I get up at 4:30, 1hr commute to work in the morning and often longer in the evening. By the time my wife and I sit on the couch its often 7:30. we will start a tv show but we are in bed usually by 8:15. lights out between 8:30-8:45 for a solid 8hrs.

you don't have to completely change every aspect of your schedule but you can look for small adjustments that add up. I am privileged to often be able to escape to the gym on my lunch break, it's a shorter session, but I can get my major lifts in during that time, cardio later. etc.

@MrKleen73 prepped for multiple bodybuilding comps last year and knocked out a large portion of his cardio by finding opportunities to simply walk during breaks, lunch etc around his office when cutting and stage prepping.
 
I work a labour job and I’m up at 4:30 am, it’s pretty difficult to get more sleep than that.
Unless they’re paying you to still be up until 11:00pm, sounds like you can pack it in earlier. One of the first tough life lessons you’ll learn transitioning to a full-time gig is how little free time in the day you have. This was a bit of a shock to me - you work hard all day, come home dirty & tired, but still need to shower, cook, eat, shop or handle any business, and prepare for the next day. Then you need to squeeze in whatever gym, family, social priorities you make in life; it’s overwhelming at first.

The profound thing about sleep is, you can’t buy it, but it’s one of the single greatest drivers of recovery you can get. And you can only make progress training as much as you can actually recover from. Until you have eaten and slept enough, you won’t grow or be fully strong/receptive to growth for the next stimulus.

The less you are getting, the more you will benefit increasing sleep - it’s NOT all or nothing. Going from 5 to 6 hours per night is a 20% increase, while going from 8 to 9 is only 12.5% - still worthwhile, but as low as yours is, you could see some serious improvement over months by getting used to sleeping 7 hours. This will also increase projected life and healthspan btw.

And you also did mention not gaining any weight, but wanting to this winter. Training in a slight caloric surplus and slowly gaining some weight will definitely aid your bench strength as you get bigger as well.

Food and sleep are the biggest tools you have to increase recovery rate & response to your training, and you have room to increase both. You can’t grow significant muscle as an established lifter without gaining a little weight.
 
Unless they’re paying you to still be up until 11:00pm, sounds like you can pack it in earlier. One of the first tough life lessons you’ll learn transitioning to a full-time gig is how little free time in the day you have. This was a bit of a shock to me - you work hard all day, come home dirty & tired, but still need to shower, cook, eat, shop or handle any business, and prepare for the next day. Then you need to squeeze in whatever gym, family, social priorities you make in life; it’s overwhelming at first.
then you meet a girl, get a house, add a kid, possibly a dog (or two) ducks/chickens, fish, clogged gutters, and blown fuse, leaky roof, deck repair, kids holiday violin concert at 7pm on a tuesday when your christmas shopping isn't done, baseball practice on thursday nights, cub scout sleep over saturday, wrestling tournament

holy crap no wonder your averaged middle aged dad has created a whole new body 😂

I have 100 hobbies and the gym takes up 99% of my hobby time. it is what it is, but priorities.
 
then you meet a girl, get a house, add a kid, possibly a dog (or two) ducks/chickens, fish, clogged gutters, and blown fuse, leaky roof, deck repair, kids holiday violin concert at 7pm on a tuesday when your christmas shopping isn't done, baseball practice on thursday nights, cub scout sleep over saturday, wrestling tournament

holy crap no wonder your averaged middle aged dad has created a whole new body 😂

I have 100 hobbies and the gym takes up 99% of my hobby time. it is what it is, but priorities.
Yeah I wasn’t even going to try to hit him with the next levels; he isn’t ready to worry about all that yet. First serious gf you think your time gets tighter again, but when you own a house it goes up another level, then having kids it’s a complete cash out on your hobbies. Your kid becomes your hobby now lol.

But I do remember just trying to work 7-3:30 Monday-Friday out of school and being dead Sunday night, realizing it was about to be Groundhog Day all over again.
 
Your kid becomes your hobby now lol.
I think this is why dads get really big into smoked meats and grilling lol. It passes both as a hobby, and a necessity (feeding the family). two birds with one stone lol
realizing it was about to be Groundhog Day all over again.
I've used that exact term with my wife a few times, that can be a tough one to overcome at times.... thankfully I haven't quite felt that way in a while but I'll tell you that stretch around feb-mar often feels like it.
 
Anyone here have experience with dry herb vaping?

I’ve been looking into dry herb vaping high cbd weed for my chronic pain.

Today I almost couldn’t work because of the pain so I think I’m gonna buy some weed and a dry herb vape.
 

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How intensive is your labor job? Just also wondering high intensive work plus gym I could see stalling and lack of recovery a lot faster as well.
 
How intensive is your labor job? Just also wondering high intensive work plus gym I could see stalling and lack of recovery a lot faster as well.
I’m an electrician, working on a low rise residential building rn. So in terms of cardio its a lot of walking up and down stairs and in terms of physicality Im always either standing, kneeling, reaching, on a ladder, screwing, pulling wire, etc.

I wouldn’t say it’s very physical compared to other trades but compared to most jobs it’s much more physical.
 
Anyone here have experience with dry herb vaping?

I’ve been looking into dry herb vaping high cbd weed for my chronic pain.

Today I almost couldn’t work because of the pain so I think I’m gonna buy some weed and a dry herb vape.
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I’ve been using this guy for a few years now with no complaints.
 
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I’ve been using this guy for a few years now with no complaints.
Kk sounds good bro thanks. Is it difficult to clean?

I’m just in it for pain relief personally that’s why I smoke high cbd. And I can’t smoke indica at all, not even a hybrid, it gives me insane paranoia. I can only smoke sativa which gives me practically no paranoia.
 
What about microdosing mints? in our area they have 5mg mints now that have super high cbd ratios. I don't like thc very much myself. I have a friend who felt he had no control on alcohol and is about 50% thc now, whereas I have no issues with bourbon, but don't like how my brain feels on thc. the local micro dose mints are like 5:1 cbd : thc for pain, calming, sleep, etc. nearly zero psycoactive but lots of calming.
 
Kk sounds good bro thanks. Is it difficult to clean?

I’m just in it for pain relief personally that’s why I smoke high cbd. And I can’t smoke indica at all, not even a hybrid, it gives me insane paranoia. I can only smoke sativa which gives me practically no paranoia.
Nah, 5-10 mins every once in a while with rubbing alcohol and a pipe cleaner. Easy peezy
 
What about microdosing mints? in our area they have 5mg mints now that have super high cbd ratios. I don't like thc very much myself. I have a friend who felt he had no control on alcohol and is about 50% thc now, whereas I have no issues with bourbon, but don't like how my brain feels on thc. the local micro dose mints are like 5:1 cbd : thc for pain, calming, sleep, etc. nearly zero psycoactive but lots of calming.
I have tried before and didn’t notice much but thanks for the suggestion.
 
Anyone here have experience with dry herb vaping?

I’ve been looking into dry herb vaping high cbd weed for my chronic pain.

Today I almost couldn’t work because of the pain so I think I’m gonna buy some weed and a dry herb vape.
I don’t have any experience with any of it, but generally speaking local transdermal application is always going to be superior for most joints - it’s back pain that may or may not be as useful.

So if you want to minimize THC exposure or timing, like say you don’t want it before work, consider roll-on sticks or transdermal creams or salves if you have pesky elbows, knees, wrists, shoulders, hips. You can try low back of course. And nothing saying you can’t add transdermals or rollers with the vape. If I have a problem area like an elbow or knee, I combine oral curcumin with transdermal on the area.
 
Also make sure you are using Boswelia serrata / frankincense extracts a couple times per day, in addition to curcumin. That’s why I use CEL Joint Edge, Curcumin & Boswelia both in one. Helps a lot with the whole body. Then I will add a cap of Theracurmin XT as well when needed, and/or the XPG gel local.
 
Also make sure you are using Boswelia serrata / frankincense extracts a couple times per day, in addition to curcumin. That’s why I use CEL Joint Edge, Curcumin & Boswelia both in one. Helps a lot with the whole body. Then I will add a cap of Theracurmin XT as well when needed, and/or the XPG gel local.
Do those help significantly with joint pain? I got the curcumun elite and I just bought some joints and edibles for the pain too. For me topicals don’t help with joint issues, only muscle issues.
 
I was just thinking about your schedule conflict while I was on the treadmill. I like to study Spanish and just hit my 1300 day streak on Duolingo while knocking out my incline LISS.

The reason I bring that up is because over time you'll find little life hacks where you can multitask, become more efficient with the little things so you can really enjoy the big stuff (like sport). Podcasting is another life hack for me. Hubberman, Cutler, Joe Rogan, lately distillers, anything I'm trying to learn, the commuting has become a multi task life hack for me.
 
Do those help significantly with joint pain? I got the curcumun elite and I just bought some joints and edibles for the pain too. For me topicals don’t help with joint issues, only muscle issues.
Absolutely; that’s what they are for. I do not take them for muscle soreness, nor do they help with that - they lower inflammation in healthy ways and increase joint lubrication.
 
Absolutely; that’s what they are for. I do not take them for muscle soreness, nor do they help with that - they lower inflammation in healthy ways and increase joint lubrication.
Ok, if my flare keeps up I will try them. Thanks for the suggestion!
 
I felt bad during my shift yesterday and now i woke up fully sick, good thing this lines up with my deload week.

Can I still get good muscle recovery and CNS recovery while being sick? Not in terms of recovering from heavy lifts but instead more mental recovery.
 
I felt bad during my shift yesterday and now i woke up fully sick, good thing this lines up with my deload week.

Can I still get good muscle recovery and CNS recovery while being sick? Not in terms of recovering from heavy lifts but instead more mental recovery.
Generally I recover slower all around when sick. I try to think about days I’m pretty sick or traveling as half a day for recovery’s sake, when thinking about when I expect my body to feel recovered to normal state I train in.
 
What would you guys think of me using mk677 or anamorelin? I’m just interested in it because lack of sleep may be hindering how much rem sleep, slow wave sleep and gh release I’m getting at night. Which will worsen my sleep quality, recovery, and restlessness. I’m just thinking of taking a low dose of both at night to at least partly offset that.

You guys know way more about this than me so I’m not gonna do anything without consulting you all.

But since I’m also on immuno suppressants which increase cancer risk quite a lot and I’m gonna start smoking I’m scared adding in anything gh might make the cancer risk worse. Am I overthinking?


Btw, I’m feeling really sick so I’m gonna be out for a bit. That’s one of the cons of being immunosuppressed
 
Anamorelin may be one you could try, because it does show some promise and doesn’t seem to have any cancer risk. As a matter of fact, they are testing it to help cancer patients to gain weight and slow muscle loss…..

Full article: Anamorelin Hydrochloride in the Treatment of ...
Anamorelin (brand name Adlumiz in Japan) is an oral drug, a ghrelin receptor agonist, developed to treat cancer cachexia, a wasting syndrome causing appetite loss, weight loss, and muscle loss in cancer patients. It works by mimicking the natural hormone ghrelin, stimulating appetite, promoting growth hormone release, and increasing body weight and muscle mass in conditions like lung, gastric, pancreatic, and colorectal cancers, offering a new treatment option where few existed.

I probably wouldn’t take with MK 677, because they do warn against anyone taking immunosuppressants to not take MK 677 because of increased cancer risk. Now with that said I have tried MK 677 and not Anamorelin, but in your case I think Anamorelin would be smarter. What would stack good with it, and is safe, is SNS Growth Factor XT, which I have taken, and is great at night. Great deep sleep and vivid dreams. Yeah, Growth Factor XT and Anamorelin would be a great stack at night. 😎👍
 
Anamorelin may be one you could try, because it does show some promise and doesn’t seem to have any cancer risk. As a matter of fact, they are testing it to help cancer patients to gain weight and slow muscle loss…..

Full article: Anamorelin Hydrochloride in the Treatment of ...
Anamorelin (brand name Adlumiz in Japan) is an oral drug, a ghrelin receptor agonist, developed to treat cancer cachexia, a wasting syndrome causing appetite loss, weight loss, and muscle loss in cancer patients. It works by mimicking the natural hormone ghrelin, stimulating appetite, promoting growth hormone release, and increasing body weight and muscle mass in conditions like lung, gastric, pancreatic, and colorectal cancers, offering a new treatment option where few existed.

I probably wouldn’t take with MK 677, because they do warn against anyone taking immunosuppressants to not take MK 677 because of increased cancer risk. Now with that said I have tried MK 677 and not Anamorelin, but in your case I think Anamorelin would be smarter. What would stack good with it, and is safe, is SNS Growth Factor XT, which I have taken, and is great at night. Great deep sleep and vivid dreams. Yeah, Growth Factor XT and Anamorelin would be a great stack at night. 😎👍
Yeah it’s gonna be a real struggle getting anamorelin in Canada though, I found this one single seller called labtecpro and they sell a mixed mk677 (25mg/ml) and anamorelin (25mg/ml) (iirc) tincture and they ship to Canada so I’m thinking I’ll just take like 0.2-0.5ml a night for a slight gh increase and sleep improvement.

Mk677 lasts longer and spikes igf1 more so the cancer risk is higher.

Thanks for the input! I’ve never done any gear and don’t know much about it so it’s good to learn from the masters.

 
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Anamorelin may be one you could try, because it does show some promise and doesn’t seem to have any cancer risk. As a matter of fact, they are testing it to help cancer patients to gain weight and slow muscle loss…..

Full article: Anamorelin Hydrochloride in the Treatment of ...
Anamorelin (brand name Adlumiz in Japan) is an oral drug, a ghrelin receptor agonist, developed to treat cancer cachexia, a wasting syndrome causing appetite loss, weight loss, and muscle loss in cancer patients. It works by mimicking the natural hormone ghrelin, stimulating appetite, promoting growth hormone release, and increasing body weight and muscle mass in conditions like lung, gastric, pancreatic, and colorectal cancers, offering a new treatment option where few existed.

I probably wouldn’t take with MK 677, because they do warn against anyone taking immunosuppressants to not take MK 677 because of increased cancer risk. Now with that said I have tried MK 677 and not Anamorelin, but in your case I think Anamorelin would be smarter. What would stack good with it, and is safe, is SNS Growth Factor XT, which I have taken, and is great at night. Great deep sleep and vivid dreams. Yeah, Growth Factor XT and Anamorelin would be a great stack at night. 😎👍
How do you think growth factor xt would compare to something like anamorelin or mk677 for sleep and gh output?
 
How do you think growth factor xt would compare to something like anamorelin or mk677 for sleep and gh output?
It won’t be as potent as those….it will help boost you naturally, but as young as you are I don’t know how effective it may be, because at your age you should still be producing plenty of growth hormone. It would be the safest thing for you to try. If the main thing is deeper sleep, I do believe Growth Factor XT would help with that, but probably not the increase in hunger. You could try it before bed with maybe ZMA, and I’m sure that little stack would help with deeper sleep. You could even add in Melatonin, unless you don’t do well with it. It’s just I’m not sure how safe Mk677 would be for you. There’s a chance no problem at all, but with immunosuppressant drugs I’m not sure if it’s worth it.
 
Generally I recover slower all around when sick. I try to think about days I’m pretty sick or traveling as half a day for recovery’s sake, when thinking about when I expect my body to feel recovered to normal state I train in.
my favorite part about being sick is pho. get all recovered up on that healthy broth and when you wake up feeling better you're aleady loaded up on sodium and carbs lol
 
It won’t be as potent as those….it will help boost you naturally, but as young as you are I don’t know how effective it may be, because at your age you should still be producing plenty of growth hormone. It would be the safest thing for you to try. If the main thing is deeper sleep, I do believe Growth Factor XT would help with that, but probably not the increase in hunger. You could try it before bed with maybe ZMA, and I’m sure that little stack would help with deeper sleep. You could even add in Melatonin, unless you don’t do well with it. It’s just I’m not sure how safe Mk677 would be for you. There’s a chance no problem at all, but with immunosuppressant drugs I’m not sure if it’s worth it.
Do you know of any place that sells anamorelin? It’s so difficult to find
 
Regarding GH and cancer, it will not increase the risk of cancer. It’s totally safe in that regard. IF you have cancer, however, it will significantly accelerate the growth/spread of cancer.

But regarding you taking drugs to offset an arbitrary assumption that you have low IGF1 because your sleep is not as good as you wish it was…I would just order an IGF1 test on bloodwork to know what you are working with. You have absolutely no way of knowing what it is without bloodwork.

At your age, odds are even with you sleeping only 4-5 hours per night, your IGF1 levels are about twice mine (zero exaggeration).
 
Regarding GH and cancer, it will not increase the risk of cancer. It’s totally safe in that regard. IF you have cancer, however, it will significantly accelerate the growth/spread of cancer.

But regarding you taking drugs to offset an arbitrary assumption that you have low IGF1 because your sleep is not as good as you wish it was…I would just order an IGF1 test on bloodwork to know what you are working with. You have absolutely no way of knowing what it is without bloodwork.

At your age, odds are even with you sleeping only 4-5 hours per night, your IGF1 levels are about twice mine (zero exaggeration).
I have gotten them tested before and they were a bit below the middle of the reference range, definitely not as high as I wanted them to be. Keep in mind most Canadian reference ranges for hormones are a bit lower than American reference ranges.
 
I talked to Steve and I think that gh peptides may not be the best considering my health issues.

I’m just gonna go ahead and get some growth factor xt for the similar benefits I’m looking for (though weaker)
 
I talked to Steve and I think that gh peptides may not be the best considering my health issues.

I’m just gonna go ahead and get some growth factor xt for the similar benefits I’m looking for (though weaker)
I’ve taken that, and it’s a good supplement.
 
You should check out some CBD Tinctures, it could help with both your sleep, and some of the systemic inflammation. You can buy them much stronger than you will get in a vape. WHen I quit smoking these were my go to in order to be able to sleep. While using them my inflammation went down as well. I don't use them now because i am back on flower, but it should help with both situations. You can get them quite strong, and they work really well. If you decide you want to go that way you will want to do a few things when dosing to get the most out of the tincture. So hit me up if you go that way and I will explain it. I don't feel like typing it out if you aren't planning to try them. :)
 
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