The legal supplement that impressed you most

Currently:

ArA
AnaBeta Elite
Burn24
Abyss Unparalleled

I'm also actually very impressed with Bio-Gro right now, it's actually very notably effective. Problem with Bio-Gro is 1) the price and 2) it really needs to come in a 120 servings tub.
 
Natadrol
Drive
MassFX black
Triazole
Ursolix XT
HardFX

Supersize
Litup
RPM
Compete
Anadraulic state

Glycobol
Cissus
Pslin
Ghenerate
UltraReps

These are all products I've had some degree of success with and would purchase any one of these products again.

Edit: maybe not in that order. And I'm sure I've forgot a couple. But picking up a couple from that list will make for a solid stack I can say confidently.
 
there have been a few products that i have logged when the products 1st came out, that gave fantastic results....then when i used them again not so good!!!
 
there have been a few products that i have logged when the products 1st came out, that gave fantastic results....then when i used them again not so good!!!
yeah funny how that happens, with fresh new releases vs. second+ runs of same thing following, eh?
 
yeah funny how that happens, with fresh new releases vs. second+ runs of same thing following, eh?

fortunately this has only happened with a few products......but it does make you wonder?????
 
X-Factor - noticeable change to body composition and muscle shape/fullness

Nos Ether- first pump product to really blow me away

Size On Max Performance- fool proof creatine and intra product for bulking

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For me, the original Endosurge was a product I raved about to anybody and everybody. Nothing could touch the euphoric effect that came along with libido through the roof, great sleep, and general uplifted mood. It just made you always want to do things.
 
X-Factor - noticeable change to body composition and muscle shape/fullness

Nos Ether- first pump product to really blow me away

Size On Max Performance- fool proof creatine and intra product for bulking

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I bought NOS Ether before and when it showed up it was as hard as a rock. Never got to try it.

Not to look like I'm being a rep but Max Pump is by far the best supp I've used to date.

Followed by ECA and OG Craze
 
For me, the original Endosurge was a product I raved about to anybody and everybody. Nothing could touch the euphoric effect that came along with libido through the roof, great sleep, and general uplifted mood. It just made you always want to do things.

This is true. I agree 100%

I'm starting the new endosurge turbo this Saturday, hoping its better
 
This is true. I agree 100%

I'm starting the new endosurge turbo this Saturday, hoping its better

I'd be interested because I am not a fan of maca in general, so I always feel like products get ruined when they add it in. Plus, what really pulled me to try it in the first place was the simple 2 ingredient list. Don't know why companies feel the need to add things all the time.
 
I think there is validity to that point. Everyone is always looking for the next thing and once you get used to the effects of something, you tend to look for something better, stronger, or just different. Run something 2 or 3 times in a row and it loses the impact it had originally because you are used to it.
 
High Volume
Super Cissus
Erase

These are the 3 that has impressed me most out of the who knows how many supplements I've tried lol.
 
I think there is validity to that point. Everyone is always looking for the next thing and once you get used to the effects of something, you tend to look for something better, stronger, or just different. Run something 2 or 3 times in a row and it loses the impact it had originally because you are used to it.

you know what happens when you assume too much.......


where did i say i ran it 2 or 3 times in a row?


your explanation would make more sense if this had happened with more frequency, since it has only happened with a few products out of the hundreds of products i have tried it presents a definate hole in this theory, imo.
 
I was making a general statement because you are not the only person who mentions this from time to time. Stop being so sensitive about a simple comment.
 
I was making a general statement because you are not the only person who mentions this from time to time. Stop being so sensitive about a simple comment.

being sensitive isn't the point here....the supp industry is basically unchecked, and most of us want to keep it that way....but when supp companies get shady and do things like change formulas without changing labels or letting it's consumers know of this it needs to be called out, imo. the pratice of including stuff that might be iffy legally for the 1st few batches to get attention is another possibility!!!
 
I was making a general statement because you are not the only person who mentions this from time to time. Stop being so sensitive about a simple comment.

I am not seeing where there is to sensitive only simply clarification on where it is he is coming from.
 
being sensitive isn't the point here....the supp industry is basically unchecked, and most of us want to keep it that way....but when supp companies get shady and do things like change formulas without changing labels or letting it's consumers know of this it needs to be called out, imo. the pratice of including stuff that might be iffy legally for the 1st few batches to get attention is another possibility!!!

Ok, I can understand your point. My goal wasn't to undermine this possibility, just seeing another side. I can see how this may be a touchy subject if you are a rep or work for a supp company.
 
Ok, I can understand your point. My goal wasn't to undermine this possibility, just seeing another side. I can see how this may be a touchy subject if you are a rep or work for a supp company.

explain....not sure i understand where you are at with this.
 
Really, I don't see how my last post could be any more clear.

After your explanation, I can understand why you may have doubts and suspect that something else is going on- considering you are in the supplement industry. The point I was making was that I fully believe in a placebo effect and that using a product more than once or for an extended time can present a diminished return.

Look, I have no interest in keeping this going as you seem to want to do. I have an opinion as others on here do, and I expressed it. You expressed yours and I am open minded to see your side and posted as much. I don't care enough about this to explain things any further.
 
Really, I don't see how my last post could be any more clear.

After your explanation, I can understand why you may have doubts and suspect that something else is going on- considering you are in the supplement industry. The point I was making was that I fully believe in a placebo effect and that using a product more than once or for an extended time can present a diminished return.

Look, I have no interest in keeping this going as you seem to want to do. I have an opinion as others on here do, and I expressed it. You expressed yours and I am open minded to see your side and posted as much. I don't care enough about this to explain things any further.

stop being so sensitive about a simple question.....






just kidding, have a good life!!!
 
Are you saying the anecdotal feedback from someone receiving a product for free is reliable?

Are they not? All those "I made mad gainz off dis here protein!" claims on those logs (why the hell would you really need to log protein in the first place is beyond me) are not true? o.O
 
what happened to this thread?

Probably more closely related to placebo than scandal.

no - you speak of totally separate issue than what I refer to
I been around long enuff to know difference between pla-see-bro, and a change in the ingredient profile
there have been many more instances that I could name off the top of my head, where companies got busted adding drugs into their products at debut production, in order to get the word spread about how kick-ass the product is..
only to run following batches with the drugs removed, once rep has been established
there is no speculation in that, at all - I speak in factual basis, of things you can simply find out for yourself if you were to dig hard enough
 
Still shedding tears over Natadrol...*sniff sniff*
 
what happened to this thread?



no - you speak of totally separate issue than what I refer to
I been around long enuff to know difference between pla-see-bro, and a change in the ingredient profile
there have been many more instances that I could name off the top of my head, where companies got busted adding drugs into their products at debut production, in order to get the word spread about how kick-ass the product is..
only to run following batches with the drugs removed, once rep has been established
there is no speculation in that, at all - I speak in factual basis, of things you can simply find out for yourself if you were to dig hard enough

:bow28:
 
DMAA - before I got tolerant to it, I hated the dirty feeling ephedra gave me when it was legal. But I loved the different clean focus I got from it back in the day.

Cissus - current shoulder injury not withstanding, I've never taken a joint supplement before this that was this effective.

Ghenerate - at least as far as quality sleep goes, works as advertised every time

Creatine Ethyl Ester - just kidding
 
MassFx Black!!! I havent tried anything else that made me shred fat so fast while getting stronger! I love it!!
 
Call me biased,but Andro Factory's Focus has impressed me more than any other OTC supplement I have taken.
 
Some guy whos 26 and had been lifting since he was 14 just told me he gained 20 lbs of lean mass in one month from creatine!! Lol then I asked him what a deadlift is...he had no idea...I asked him what his macros are..he said his trainer tells him everything to eat..he didn't even know what macronutrients were...get me that Creatine hahaha
 
Some guy whos 26 and had been lifting since he was 14 just told me he gained 20 lbs of lean mass in one month from creatine!! Lol then I asked him what a deadlift is...he had no idea...I asked him what his macros are..he said his trainer tells him everything to eat..he didn't even know what macronutrients were...get me that Creatine hahaha

What are macronutrients? What's creatine?
 
Some guy whos 26 and had been lifting since he was 14 just told me he gained 20 lbs of fat ass in one month from creatine!! Lol then I asked him what a deadlift is...he had no idea...I asked him what his macros are..he said his trainer tells him everything to eat..he didn't even know what macronutrients were...get me that Creatine hahaha

I believe it!
 
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