Ummm....you do understand I was called an environmental terrorist (because I'm a Christian) and the OP was called a moron (and wanted to use that as a sig)....and you claim others are spewing nonsense?
I got four letters for you.
LMAO.
The Irony of Atheism
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Ummm....you do understand I was called an environmental terrorist (because I'm a Christian) and the OP was called a moron (and wanted to use that as a sig)....and you claim others are spewing nonsense?
I got four letters for you.
LMAO.
AE14
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actually I do. As I stated there are horrible people in all beliefs. I guess you didn't read that. LMAO
"Touey is a moron."
--Piston Honda
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AE14,JudoJosh,Wrives
Brilliant. Say one thing, do another. Now THAT'S hypocritical.
Here is my point. If you want to insult someone because of their beliefs, I will get rid of you. Understand me?
JudoJosh
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Me saying he is a moron is not a reflection of his beliefs. He is a moron because his lack of logic and ability to be rationale.
In no way did I insult anyones beliefs. I dont disagree with individuals decision to be religious, thats their choice and they are free to make it. this whole things started over a gay rights issue which is essentially a human rights issue.
For the record, my father in law is a baotist pastor, I went to catholic school, I met my wife in church at the age of 17 and been with her and only her ever since, I am Puerto rican and just about my entire family is catholic or Pentecostal on my side and on my wifes they are baptist or non-denominational. I have zero problems with religious people, my problem is when individuals (mis)use their religion as a justification for the mistreatment of others.
Read my comments in this thread and the othera that came before it. I challeged peoples logic and reasoning, not their religion.
Whacked
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I don't care what you rational is....stating someone is a moron is simply an insult and will not be tolerated. Its amazing that someone that values logic and rational can be so emotional and irrational because you don't agree with someone.
Its stopping now and if it doesn't I will remove those that continue it. Debate is fine. Personal attacks are not.
hurdlemaker
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well whacked directly insulted me because of my beliefs (atheism). I'm not crying tho, nor do I see you warning him...
Show me and I will correct him...just like the guy who was preaching the bible bashing gays repeatedly got banned....twice... Want to credit my fairness some more?
hurdlemaker
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Agreed
FYI
"why have i been banned? i would like you to reactivate my account. if you are going to ban me for posting in the I am phil thread then you need to ban everybody else, this is bull**** to single me out for excercising my freedom of speech in a general chat forum while you allow others with opposing vies to continue to spout their nonsense. i have been around bodybuilding forums for a very long time under the name abs and i cant believe you ban me over a couple anti -gay posts in a thread supporting duck dynasty phil anti homosexual remarks. if you ban me you need to ban everyone on both sides, period or close the thread and stop having a general chat forum and clean the sand outta your vagina.. this is a bodybuilding forum which focuses majority on illegal performance enhancing drugs and your gonna be politically correct over gay issues?? wtf??
abs"
I must be a bad Christian then. How awful we are. I didn't hear any objections when you guys reported that guy and he was removed. <crickets>
"why have i been banned? i would like you to reactivate my account. if you are going to ban me for posting in the I am phil thread then you need to ban everybody else, this is bull**** to single me out for excercising my freedom of speech in a general chat forum while you allow others with opposing vies to continue to spout their nonsense. i have been around bodybuilding forums for a very long time under the name abs and i cant believe you ban me over a couple anti -gay posts in a thread supporting duck dynasty phil anti homosexual remarks. if you ban me you need to ban everyone on both sides, period or close the thread and stop having a general chat forum and clean the sand outta your vagina.. this is a bodybuilding forum which focuses majority on illegal performance enhancing drugs and your gonna be politically correct over gay issues?? wtf??
abs"
I must be a bad Christian then. How awful we are. I didn't hear any objections when you guys reported that guy and he was removed. <crickets>
Whacked
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I did? Not sure where but if so, I apologize
All of my posts were solely meant to speak generally about the witch hunt that goes on with / on Christian views on this board and how the Atheists gang up like blood thirsty vultures every single time.
All of my posts were solely meant to speak generally about the witch hunt that goes on with / on Christian views on this board and how the Atheists gang up like blood thirsty vultures every single time.
Whacked
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hurdlemaker
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u corrected the situation while I was typing that, thanks. I don't know why everyone has to get so heated, ease back on the anabolic's and play nice!
hurdlemaker
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not directly, sorry for saying so, not all atheist's are the devil tho
AE14
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I will leave it at this, I did like it as a response to some of his commentary. If that offended him and/or you I would hope after all these years people Would know how I handle myself here on AM.
If that has gotten lost, evidently I am responsible
For that. So I apologize to Touey and anyone else who might be offended by my "like".
For the sake of this discussion, hypocrisy amongst ALL members knows no bounds.
I will stay out at this point. Be well all
jinxie
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Are you being any less judgmental by calling someone emotional and irrational? Something to consider.
Am I being LESS judgemental? Why, yes...I am.
Since I own the site, I make judgements all the time. It would be tough going through life without making them.
Something to consider.
jinxie
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JJ said nothing irrational. And exercising judgment is entirely different than being judgmental. It's more than just semantics and rhetoric.
JJ did not deserve to labeled judgmental and emotional, IMO. Might we all lead by example? Plus, he's a good contributor to your Website.
I mean all this respectfully. Everyone should be respectful towards everyone.
Oscar
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I wish there was a god I could pray to that would make everything all better or give me guidance and strength. Unfortunately life's not that convenient and I've gotta do it all myself from staying clean(no more drugs) moving forward towards my goals, controlling my emotions so I don't go all roid rage and snap on my cheating whore of a wife gods not there its just me and I can be my own god.
jinxie
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Lift heavy and often and your prayers will be answered. Have faith ...
Its not a label, its a state of mind.
A label would be calling someone a moron...or a terrorist.....which I see you didn't protest to.
And contributions to a site don't make you exempt from the rules.
And I really don't need or want your opinion on who is breaking the rules I set here.
I mean all this respectfully.
jinxie
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Observing the ego attach resonates, bro. Peace. I am not your enemy or your judge. I leave that to higher things.
Look in the mirror.
Whacked
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The way I see it, it's Admins house-so "when in Rome".
If the ADMIN owns a business - let's say a restaurant - and has a busy night of guests - and a few are acting unruly IN HIS OPINION.
Why on earth can't he enforce HIS rules based on HIS way based on HIS perception/opinion/JUDGEMENT as to who needs to be thrown out? Should the unruly guests that are ruining it for everyone else turn a blind eye b/c the unruly patrons cite their "rights" to eat there? Wow
Sure, as the owner of a restaurant, and smart business man, he wants to establish himself as unprejudiced, inviting, and accommodating to ALL walks of life! Whether or not he agrees with their way of life, or their look, or their political views or their faith for that matter.
That said, if a few knuckleheads ruin it for everyone else (in HIS OPINION AS THE ONLY ONE SUITED TO MAKE SUCH AN OPINION) then why on earth would he NOT enforce HIS RULES HIS WAY and hence, judge as he sees for and in what he feels is the best interest of all?
These posts have entitlement syndrome written all over it. LOL.
No one is forcing anyone to be on this board or participate for that matter.
If you voluntarily elect to be here, then the Admin can exercise whatever acts or enforcement he so pleases. Wow
FWIW - This thread should have been dead as of yesterday. Why on earth stir the pot even more? Lol
If the ADMIN owns a business - let's say a restaurant - and has a busy night of guests - and a few are acting unruly IN HIS OPINION.
Why on earth can't he enforce HIS rules based on HIS way based on HIS perception/opinion/JUDGEMENT as to who needs to be thrown out? Should the unruly guests that are ruining it for everyone else turn a blind eye b/c the unruly patrons cite their "rights" to eat there? Wow
Sure, as the owner of a restaurant, and smart business man, he wants to establish himself as unprejudiced, inviting, and accommodating to ALL walks of life! Whether or not he agrees with their way of life, or their look, or their political views or their faith for that matter.
That said, if a few knuckleheads ruin it for everyone else (in HIS OPINION AS THE ONLY ONE SUITED TO MAKE SUCH AN OPINION) then why on earth would he NOT enforce HIS RULES HIS WAY and hence, judge as he sees for and in what he feels is the best interest of all?
These posts have entitlement syndrome written all over it. LOL.
No one is forcing anyone to be on this board or participate for that matter.
If you voluntarily elect to be here, then the Admin can exercise whatever acts or enforcement he so pleases. Wow
FWIW - This thread should have been dead as of yesterday. Why on earth stir the pot even more? Lol
jinxie
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I am looking in the mirror -- that's why it resonates for me. I strongly suspect you are misinterpreting me. I am not who you think I am.
I am not questioning your jurisdiction or your authority. Divine law is one thing, this is another.
I am out. Sorry for saying anything -- just representing a friend, loyalty and all. Peace man.
I just want the name calling to stop....when it seems people are being called morons, terrorists, idiots, etc... for their beliefs, I don't think its right....friend or not.
I don't want AM to become another internet cess pool of insults.
B5150
Legend
sounds like you are looking for a god to serve you rather than serving your God!
Seek first HIS kingdom...
Touey
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an incredible thing which happens here, one may think it a state of lesser when actually there is life beyond what one would have thought to hope
B5150
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“It would seem that Our Lord finds our desires not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased.”
― C.S. Lewis
― C.S. Lewis
Piston Honda
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I'll take the drinking and sex over "joy" as Lewis would have it; that guy sounds like a party pooper.
Piston Honda
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I prefer these "nones" to nuns, 'cause nuns have no fun:
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Whacked
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I'll take abstinence NOW in exchange for an entire eternity of limitless joy; boundless riches, unfathomable pleasure (not just some short-sited empty "fun")
Piston Honda
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I'll take what's behind door #1 instead of door #2. I'll take what's known and real over a lie.
B5150
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There is now scientific evidence that Internet trolls are indeed just as mean in their private lives as they are in their digital ones, and it appears the driving force behind their trolling is good old-fashion sadism.
The research comes from a team out of Canada from multiple universities who put their findings rather bluntly. “It might be said that online trolls are prototypical everyday sadists,” the investigators state.
In other words, Internet trolls are not the nicest people in the world, but they are as old as time.
Sadism is no joke; it is indicative of psychological disturbance and, in extreme cases, can be diagnosed using criteria from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). Loosely defined, a sadist is a person who derives pleasure from inflicting pain, suffering or humiliation on others.
This is nothing new. In fact, the term “sadist” comes from the infamous Marquis de Sade, a French writer of the 1700s and early 1800s who was imprisoned in an asylum for his lewdness.
“Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others,” the researchers wrote. “Sadists just want to have fun and the Internet is their playground!”
Also sharing this trolling playground with the sadists: psychopaths (people who show a lack of empathy or remorse), Machiavellian-like souls (those with the need to deceive others) and narcissists (well, we are all too familiar with these).
The paper, titled “Trolls just want to have fun,” defines online trolling as the practice of “behaving in a deceptive, destructive or disruptive manner in a social setting on the Internet.
If you spend any amount of time in an online comments section, you’ve more than likely encountered an individual like the ones described above.
We all know a troll when we see one; it’s that person who drives the discussion off-topic, the person who says something so egregious you know they are baiting someone for a response, and when they get that response they latch on and never let go.
You can’t help but feel that this type of behavior takes place on every comment section on every page of the Internet. But despite this perceived prevalence, researchers want us to know online trolls are a minority.
The researchers found that 58.7 percent of survey respondents commented on online forums and of those, just 5.6 percent said they enjoyed trolling.
Still, if you do the math, there are an estimated 8.3 million online trolls in the United States alone. That’s 8.3 million out of 254 million Internet users.
That’s a lot of commenting, especially if the average online commenter spends about an hour a day in the comments section.
Although the researchers don’t give any explicit advice, they do cite the now-famous adage with which I have to agree:
Don’t feed the trolls.
Piston Honda
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I guess if you believe in God, you'll believe in trolls.
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B5150
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I believe that both of you are real.
Piston Honda
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I am not godly, but thank you for your kind words! I am much more merciful.
Whacked
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Piston. Serious question. May I ask why you despise Christians so badly ?
Do you feel as much anger/deep-rooted bitterness and animosity towards Hindu's, Buddhists and Taoists?
If a Muslim posted that he loved Allah - would it stir something inside you up as much?
Do you feel as much anger/deep-rooted bitterness and animosity towards Hindu's, Buddhists and Taoists?
If a Muslim posted that he loved Allah - would it stir something inside you up as much?
Piston Honda
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You may ask.
Whacked
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BoneDaddy
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Hindus, Buddhists, et al have never condemned me for not practicing their faith nor do they try to shove their morals and beliefs and lifestyle down the rest of the world's throat. We can start there. I'd say despise is rather strong though. I don't despise anyone. I do feel bad for Christians though.
Whacked
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Well, see now. We share quite a bit after all.
I feel the same about Atheists' propagation of Darwin's unproven THEORY of evolution and cramming this nonsense down our children's throats and using this chimerical speculation and conjecture as the basis for eradicating Judeo-Christian values (not religion) in lieu of humanistic ones. This county is a train wreck and will get worse the more anti-God and secular it gets.
I love my country so yeah, this bugs me. The condemnation, hated, prejudice and disparaging of my faith that stems from Atheism is unwelcome as well.
I feel the same about the condemnation that comes from Atheists that somehow think they have proven there is no GOD (but still can't seem to connect the dots of what "started everything". Heck, even Dawkins fumbled mightily when asked for the original impetus for everything) YET somehow feel they are intellectually superior to Christians. A 2,000 year old "antiquated and uncool" lil book that contains so many answers has to drive super-scientists batty. Lol.
I don't despise Atheists either.
I also feel bad for Atheists.
I feel the same about Atheists' propagation of Darwin's unproven THEORY of evolution and cramming this nonsense down our children's throats and using this chimerical speculation and conjecture as the basis for eradicating Judeo-Christian values (not religion) in lieu of humanistic ones. This county is a train wreck and will get worse the more anti-God and secular it gets.
I love my country so yeah, this bugs me. The condemnation, hated, prejudice and disparaging of my faith that stems from Atheism is unwelcome as well.
I feel the same about the condemnation that comes from Atheists that somehow think they have proven there is no GOD (but still can't seem to connect the dots of what "started everything". Heck, even Dawkins fumbled mightily when asked for the original impetus for everything) YET somehow feel they are intellectually superior to Christians. A 2,000 year old "antiquated and uncool" lil book that contains so many answers has to drive super-scientists batty. Lol.
I don't despise Atheists either.
I also feel bad for Atheists.
Piston Honda
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You need to truly understand the meaning of what "theory" means - it is a testable supposition based on observation and experimentation. Just because it is not proof in itself does not mean it should be so nonchalantly dismissed by your ignorance and arrogance.
You seem to really get butthurt that Darwin's theory MAY disprove your 6 day creation belief. Scientists have their theories rejected all the time; they admit they are wrong and go to work on other theories until they arrive at one that seems most likely. Religion refuses to admit it is wrong even once.
Tell me your testable theory you can set up to prove your belief? That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
You seem to really get butthurt that Darwin's theory MAY disprove your 6 day creation belief. Scientists have their theories rejected all the time; they admit they are wrong and go to work on other theories until they arrive at one that seems most likely. Religion refuses to admit it is wrong even once.
Tell me your testable theory you can set up to prove your belief? That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Whacked
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So let me get this straight-You want me to subject my faith and my God that is infinite and Who created the universe that you exist in to your human understanding and attempt to elucidate and extrapolate that my God is more than a theory based on OUR finite human minds?
Oooo and on a steroid board?
Bwahahaha EPIC
I have my irrefutable and tangible proof. Jesus lives in me. If all you have is a "testable supposition based on observation and experimentation" then I guess you're at a serious disadvantage in this discussion.
I have no questions or doubt. By your own definition, you're forced to. That's gotta BLOW bro. Lol
I'm off to bed. Have a good night
Oooo and on a steroid board?
Bwahahaha EPIC
I have my irrefutable and tangible proof. Jesus lives in me. If all you have is a "testable supposition based on observation and experimentation" then I guess you're at a serious disadvantage in this discussion.
I have no questions or doubt. By your own definition, you're forced to. That's gotta BLOW bro. Lol
I'm off to bed. Have a good night
Piston Honda
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You have proof Jesus lives in you...are you by any chance schizophrenic?
BoneDaddy
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So It's Atheist's fault the world is worse off? Or it's the growing lack of faith and Christianity that's contributing to it? Does God not love everyone enough to just set it all right?
What if a Muslim, a Buddhist, a Hindu, or even a Satanist came in and said the world would be a MUCH better place and would be saved if we were simply following their teachings/beliefs/morals? Would you agree with them? No.....and I would venture to guess you would say it's because they're not your beliefs. Am I right?
You can hammer on evolution (which has more substance to stand on than the bible in my opinion. The empirical evidence is right there to see.) and the Big Bang Theory all day all you want, bothers me nine......but the irony of believing in a book that was written and rewritten and changed and rewritten again and again to control people with grand promises and fear leaves you not on the side of logic anyway. I don't think anyone here has said anyone has disproved God. We can play the logical fallacy game if you'd like.....I'll disprove God when you prove him. Deal?
BoneDaddy
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The Bible tells you to save the unsaved and to spread His Gospel and convince them of his being.....why is it out of the question for you to "subject your faith to show your God is infinite"? Wouldn't that be doing His work?
And what irrefutable and tangible proof do you have? I really need to hear this. Please?