Definately looking forward to trying it.I have been using the campibolic since it was first released.Proud to be one of the first experimenters with it.Im a huge fan as are all the ppl that I have turned on to it.A non stimulatory fatburner that works very effectively,USPLabs are pioneers imo!The cissus,Im debating on trying that now to keep my joints/tendons in prime form.But I wont be able to judge any kind of single effectiveness of it for a while yet,as I am otherwise enhanced.USP,you had told me before to wait until I could test it by itself to use it,but would u recomend using it in conjuction with other enhancements,obviously not for an anabolic effect,but to keep my joints and tendons in optimal condition while on?Perhaps help keep cortisol even lower?