The best way to grow calves is...

The best way to grow calves is...

  • ...to train them with high volume AND high frequency

    Votes: 80 36.2%
  • ...to train them with high volume once a week or so

    Votes: 56 25.3%
  • ...to train them with low volume and high frequency

    Votes: 22 10.0%
  • ...to train them with low volume once a week or so

    Votes: 15 6.8%
  • ...to do a giant drop-set with multiple failure frequently

    Votes: 17 7.7%
  • ...to inject them with IGF-1 every day for a couple months

    Votes: 31 14.0%

  • Total voters
    221
Yea, I used to be 225lbs completely out of shape, and I had huge calves back then. Since I started working out I stripped ALL the fat off my calves, they are huge,shredded, and veiny. Pretty sweet. I'm a fan of heavy weights high volume.

Now, if anyone will trade me a pair of cannonball delts for some huge calves, contact me ASAP. Or at least give me a damn good shoulder routine. fuggin shoulders...
 
I believe that the reason alot of us people who are overweight
have big calves is that one we are carrying around some extra
weight and two somebody (correct me if I am wrong) but we store some fat behind the muscle. Kinda like guys with beer guts and why they are hard. They store alot of fat behind the abdominals.
 
People with large abdomens have a significant amount of visceral adipose tissue, which is fat stored between the organs. There is no visceral adipose tissue in your legs :D
 
I was 295lbs two years ago, dropped down to 210lbs and then recently added another 15lbs through a cycle of SD/Prostanozol. Even though I was carrying alot of weight before, my calves are small compared to the rest of my body and legs. I recently began doing 15-20 minute jump rope intervals (100 jumps, walk a lap, repeat) and my calves are feeling it. I'm hoping this will be a great way to burn some fat and add some size to my calves.
 
Lately what I have been doing is a giant super/drop-set between donkey calf raise and standing calf raise. First I pick a weight I can do about 20 times on either one of the exercises. Then switch to the other machine and go to failure. Then go back to the original and drop the weight and go until failure again. I do this until I reach 75-100 reps depending on how I feel.

At the end of this I have to hold myself up for a minute or two. I have only been doing this for about 2 weeks now, but it is the first thing I have tried that actually leaves me sore later. I usually do this when I first get to the gym, and then again before I leave.
 
I've always done calves once a week for 3 sets of 8-12 on seated raises. They always got stronger but never grew! They had become BY FAR my worst body part.

I then read an article saying that seated raises may stimulate the soleus but do not target the gastronemius because, in that position, it is "loose". So I switched over to 3 sets of 8-10 on standing calve raises. I saw moderate results.

About 3-4 weeks ago I totally changed my routine. I now do calves 2X a week, 4 sets each. I will start with 2 sets of standing raises for 25-20 reps...these burn like hell and take some getting used to. Then I finish it up with 2 sets of HEAVY weight standing raises for 8-10 reps.

After 3-4 weeks I have VERY noticeable results and I'm very pumped about it. Now I'm not afraid to show my chicken legs in the gym!
 
Run around a track backwards for a 1/2 mile.
Good Luck....
 
I'm sure that my suggestion will get thrown out the door as soon as anyone hears me say "spinning", but here it goes. I have seen major growth in my calves through doing spinning classes. I used to go twice a week, but now I ride a road bike everyday so my calves are getting a strong workout everyday. They are pretty cut and people are always asking me how I got them that way.

Yes I still do sets of calf raises, etc once a week, but it is my belief that the constant use of them when riding my bicycle has helped my growth the most.
 
That gives more weight to the 'high-volume' approach to calf training - which is the only way mine grow as well. Ive gained a lot of strength in movements like the standing calf press - but they wont grow unless I pound them with multiple sets and reps 3x per week or more.

BV
 
BigVrunga said:
That gives more weight to the 'high-volume' approach to calf training - which is the only way mine grow as well. Ive gained a lot of strength in movements like the standing calf press - but they wont grow unless I pound them with multiple sets and reps 3x per week or more.

BV

Yea. Think about how many times your calves flex in a 30 minute bike ride. If you ride at an average of 80rpm that makes for 2400 reps per calf!!!
 
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best bang for your buck imo,
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i am goingthe wear leg weights too, i have a 12 mile trail right by my house.
good winter time outdoor WO

next paycheck!!!
 
Yesterday I hiked up a mountain with my brother, Mt. Algonquin in Lake Placid, NY. We got there late, so we powered up the 4.5 mile ascent in a little over 2 hours. We had to race down too, because the sun was setting (and got stuck 1/2 way down in pitch black in the middle of nowhere with no flashlight, but that's another story:D)

Anyway, today my calves are on FIRE. I *never* take aspirin to overcome muscle soreness, but I had to today, I could barely walk. My calves look bigger, are sore as hell and hard a rock today.

High reps/high intensity definitely the way to go to get these bitches to grow:)

BV
 
ss01 said:
I'm looking to learn other people's favourite method of growing calves. Who knows, we might even have some kind of consensus?
More about tempo for me (and the majority of clients). I have them do excruciatingly slow negatives and we keep the concentrics pretty slow, too. Brutally fatiguing.

It serves slow twitch muscles especially well to just bring the pace down to a crawl. IMHO.
 
I agree with that too - I think a combination of everything is what's really going to get them to grow. Attack them from all angles. Slow reps, heavy weight, brutal intensity, etc...
 
eh, I get a lot of my slow eccentrics and concentrics out of the way while riding. When I am doing actual calf raises in the gym I like to do a smooth/swift concentric (2 seconds) and a slow eccentric (5 seconds). By swift I don't mean jerky because that wouldn't be safe.
 
The fat advantage.. (just wish is didn't have all the disadvantages yo... ;))

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i think i did find the solution

The ideas behind hst really seem to apply to the calves.
The calves are more prone to the repeated bout effect due to - albeit low intensity partial range of motion - much greater workload throughout the day. Also, they are supporting your bodyweight so all this leads to


You must use heavier loads - almost always - I start after a deconditioning period in maybe my 5 rep range, then work to two leg negatives, and one leg- negatives

In addition, frequency must be MUCH higher - I now average working my calves probably 12 times a week. I also consistently add more weight and add typically greater than 5% As calves seemingly build a much greater resistance to strain and are never really deconditioned, Id recommend heavier loads than for other muscle groups, consistenly increasing in weight and greater increments - to avoid repeated bout effect. SImply split the reps up into a greater number of sets as the weights get heavier and heavier. Exposure to weights/loads the calves are unaccustomed to at a much greater frequency has really worked well for me.

Also stretch-pulses are somewhat more extreme but work well as do loaded stretches - but I believe the weight must be increased consistently with these as well.

Check out HST forums for more info
 
do the plyo workouts with the Strength Shoes....You'd be suprised with the results after a few months if you stayed faithful...
 
trayhawk said:
i think i did find the solution

The ideas behind hst really seem to apply to the calves.
The calves are more prone to the repeated bout effect due to - albeit low intensity partial range of motion - much greater workload throughout the day. Also, they are supporting your bodyweight so all this leads to


You must use heavier loads - almost always - I start after a deconditioning period in maybe my 5 rep range, then work to two leg negatives, and one leg- negatives

In addition, frequency must be MUCH higher - I now average working my calves probably 12 times a week. I also consistently add more weight and add typically greater than 5% As calves seemingly build a much greater resistance to strain and are never really deconditioned, Id recommend heavier loads than for other muscle groups, consistenly increasing in weight and greater increments - to avoid repeated bout effect. SImply split the reps up into a greater number of sets as the weights get heavier and heavier. Exposure to weights/loads the calves are unaccustomed to at a much greater frequency has really worked well for me.

12 times a week? Are you crazy? With all of that training when do you give your calves time to recover? The recovery period is where they will grow. I would never suggest training them more than twice a week because if you train them good then you won't be able to train them 12 times in a week.

Also, I wouldn't suggest doing a super heavy weight for 5 reps. You run the risk of tearing the tendon then. Calves don't grow like other muscles of the body. Calves are most closely related to your forearm flexors because they are very very dense and flat.
 
Here is a shot of my calves. Let me know what ya think....

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what i find most worrying is that there are plenty of top bb`s out there who take a **** load of gear and they`ve still got bad calves-btw tyson and holyfield have bad calves.
 
The biggest mistake I've seen is that guys underestimate their calf strength. I'm 5'8", 190lbs. and hitting the stack of 500 plus an additional 320lbs in plates for a total of 820 for six sets 8-10 reps. Add more weight you'll be amazed. Don't forget to go for a deep stretch.
 
PGF-2 will get them growing even without exercise. PGF-2 stacked with synthol would pack on the size.
 
Calves lift body weight - plus load - with every step. across every kind of terrain. In the course of an average day, this will be on the order of a few hundred reps per leg per day. An especially active day might see each calf lifting and lowering bodyweight + load for *many* hundreds of reps.

To make an impression on these puppies, I find it helps to take an extreme approach or 2.

The key IMO is range of motion: the habitual range of motion for the calves is only a small portion of the potential, or absolute, RoM; the loading decreases as the calf moves toward full contraction (which is rarely reached); and rarely is full extension approached during normal movement.

In other words, calves are the size they need to be to do what we habitually ask of them. The enormous number of bodyweight reps they endure every day make them vastly strong, and mostly impervious to a more-reps approach, and the frequency with which we lift and carry heavy things renders them pretty much impervious to the more-weight approach. (think about it, how often have you encountered calf-strength as the limiting factor in any activity?)

What has worked for me is to use and to load the entire range of motion, extension thru contraction. This basic approach has led to my developing a classic (to me) 'comic-book hero' upside-down-teardrop shape to my calves (without androgens, and initially without thinking about calf development).

Basic move is tiptoeing for reps. Sounds stupid, maybe, but it takes you to full-contraction and as long a squeeze at the top as you can muster. Up+down, and up+hold. Keeping calves slowly, carefully and thoroughly stretched is key to this working; even so, expect some cramping & be prepared to slowly and carefully stretch it out. Repeat lots....

Intermediate move is to do the same, but let the heel float; stand with the balls of your feet on an upward-leading step; raise up to full contraction & down. Reps.

Advanced move is to squat flat-footed until soleus & gastrocs are extended, rise to tip-toe, and then down from contraction to extension again, and repeat. Lots.

Up and down, up and hold, up and walk around; fast, slow, both.

Serious:
add weight (dumbbells are the tits here) while doing the above;
stay on tiptoes & don't settle on your heels while doing the above

Extreme:
weighted tip-toe squats (ie, doing both of the above / all the above)

Because of the sheer quantity of effort expended by the calf muscles regularly, these tiptoe techniques are best (I think) in brief, frequent, irregular bursts. Best to break into these techniques slowly: your calves WILL complain, and they WILL cramp, and you WILL NEED to stretch them right, even if you're mindful and cautious, so take it slow. Standing in lines provides great opportunity for practicing these (strangers WILL look at you, but you're used to that, right?)

Oh, and what it will do for your sense of balance! Feel free to do these near a wall or a couch or something you can steady yourself on at first.
 
heres what i did and members with kids listen up
i have been doing calves since i was 11 years old beause my crazy power lifting father told me to do 100 calf raises each night before bed and never do the same speed on reps
example first 20 reps do as fast as you can go then the next 20 do as slow as you can then the next go down slow on the negative around 5 seconds and then explode on the positive then alternate between doing 20 on the right and 20 on the left. basically whatever you can think of to change it up. but it seemed to work because i dont have great genetics and my calves are the creme of the crop as far as definition size and strength. everyone asks me how i did it
i just tell em start early
another thing i believe helped out my calves was doing hills with 50 lbs on my shoulders and or thighs (football training)sprinting doesnt hurt either
i rarely do calves now because they dont deteriorate hardly at all anymore
its great

just my way of doing it but everyone does respond differently
happy growing
peace
 
well at age 11 i wasnt doing weight but i remember going to 4th grade sore in my calves for like 2months or something along those lines ( i believe this is the main reason i was able to run in the 10's in the 100m in highschool)
now adays i go for a month at a time on this regimine at least once a year and i have my girlfriend jump on my back and i do the same routine i did when i was 11
besides it gets her horny her being on my back and all so i win in all categories ]
this is probably going to sound funny but i do believe in the power of the mind
so on every rep i do with calves i picture my calves either a) growing to huge proportions or b) picture what the muscle is actually doing i.e. contracting or relaxing
and again i know this sounds funny but when i visualize my calves growing they get bigger and when i picture my calves contracting and relaxing they seem to get more defined call me crazy
but it works for me
peace
 
I used to train with and work for a guy named Todd Mendelsohn. This guy trained like a freakin' animal. Here's some of the calf training we did...

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You always see big calves on fat guys and hikers (and also interestingly, I've seen good calves on Chinese people lately)

I've always believed that high rep high frequency work has been the best bet - I've managed to maintain a semblance of proportion in this way.
 
Best way to train calves is to get really fat and do lots of sprints...before i lost a lot of weight i had huge calves, now they are cut up.

I forgot where i read it, but it was a study done by Johns Hopkins talking about how the gastrocnemius is probably one of the most genetically affected muscle groups. There are three settings: Hi/Med/Low

The high setting which takes away from shape and form is commonly seen in african amercians and taller individuals.

As for the others i forget.
 
On shoulder day i do about 6-8 sets for calves, those six sets are usually moderate with high reps 15-20...on leg day i usually flip the script and do 6 sets but extremely heavy, no more than 5-6 reps....been using this method for about 5 weeks and i've def noticed a major difference in the appearance...
They are still stubborn though.
 
romantic walks on the beach! lol im in hawaii so i can do dat:rasp: but in all seriousness i have never had that problem but my vote was ...to train them with high volume once a week or so. I dont feel you need to hit them more than once a week and 2x week at the most. You can and do excercise them just by walking everyday. If you are really worried about it just flex your calves when you walk kinda like on tip toes that will help if you remember to do it and dont look dumb doing it. Other than that its like that special on mtv before; get calve implants haha or just inject synth....j/k
 
I used to walk to work, it was about 2 miles. half the distance was at a decent angle, so in the mornings, It was downhill land evenings was uphill. Anyways,.. I just added a small 10lb weight to the bottom of my bookbag, and added 5 lbs to it every week for a few weeks.
No joke, I grew 0.5 inches in about 4-5 weeks! (of course, I no longer do that, and for the life of me cant get them to grow now,.. :whiner:

One thing Im starting next week is I also work on the 25 floor of my building. 2 times a week Im going to walk down them when I get off work before I bike the 2 miles uphill. I tell ya,.. walking down 25 floors, has got to be something like over 1000 negative reps... followed by pMGF injection when I get home.
We'll see what that ends up doing to them :P

:bruce3:
 
Aside from picking th right parents i would say that you need to make sure that you get a full stretch on the way down and a good squeeze at the top. I was lucky to have the right parents :)
 
porter cortrell(sp) has a video out i saw recently that says take your shoes off or wear slippers , and do a full contraction. he said his calves was pathetically puny when he first started. in the video there looking good.

i have decent calves(look in my thread-my quest for a sixpack, in the pics section) and i used to skateboard for a few years, this has developed my calves and legs - hams alot i think. in my bodybuilding expirence the only exercise i did was leg press raises which worked well. In addition to hat exercise im now doing standing calve, and recently seated calve, and they seem to be responding a lot better.
 
Do you really want to know the secret? Train only calves for 3 weeks. Nothing else. 3 times a week. Seated with high volume. Standing and donkeys with lower volume. I added about an inch to mine in 3 weeks doing this. Was doing standing calf raises with 700-800lbs on a smith machine. Lagging bodyparts need a specialization routine.
 
^That sounds like it might have some effect, however, i dont know many that are willing to lose that much strength for calve development.

I know if i missed 3 weeks of bodyparts, i'd be pitifully weak when i started back.
 
CHAPS said:
go super heavy like twice your bodyweight+ on standing calf raises.

Thats what I do standing with my toes on a block about 5 inches high using the smith machine. Just before my heels touch the floor I go back up again. Do those with an explosive up and a controled eccentric and you will feel it!
 
DC calve training is the answer for me. My calves were never really getting anywhere before this.
 
Since most overweight people with big calves work them from walking on them everyday, anyone think it would be overtraining by hitting them in the gym 5-7 days a week?
 
Farmer's carries anyone?

I've been trying to hit the calves indirectly lately, and have been feeling it pretty good; though, it's too early to say whether or not it works (plus I still need to get a tape measure).
 
shock said:
DC calve training is the answer for me. My calves were never really getting anywhere before this.

What is DC calve training?

Just goign heavy for me seems to work. Lately i have been goign shoes off . seems to be ok, i go lighter but wowthey get sore fast.

standing calve riases 4-6 reps-max-ot style
Leg press raises both feet or one foot at a time
seated calve rasies
smith machine riases on bloack
i cant do hack squat becauze ikm too tall but i hear they work well
 
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