The best/most effective PH cycle lengths?

The best/most effective PH cycle lengths?

  • 2 weeks on/2 weeks off 3 times in a row

    Votes: 56 5.3%

  • 3 weeks on/3 weeks off 2/3 times in a row

    Votes: 61 5.8%

  • 4 weeks on/4 weeks off 2 times in a row

    Votes: 397 37.8%

  • 6 on/12 off

    Votes: 309 29.5%

  • 8 on/16 off

    Votes: 82 7.8%

  • 10 on/ 20 off

    Votes: 23 2.2%

  • Some other variation not listed

    Votes: 121 11.5%
  • Total voters
    1,049

windwords7

Well-known member
Some of you might remember a similar thread I started back at the other place a long time a ago. I thought I would get it going here as there was a lot of good info/discussion from the first one so lets have so more here!


IF YOU CHOOSE "SOME OTHER VARIATION" PLEASE POST WHAT THAT WOULD BE! THANKS!!
 
 
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<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0>Here is the old thread results! :D

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<TD align=middle bgColor=#8080a6 colSpan=4>The best/most effective cycle lengths?
[color=verdana,arial,helvetica]You have already voted on this poll.[/color][/color][/size]</TD></TR>



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<TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]2 weeks on/2 weeks off 3 times in a row[/font]</TD>



<TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar2-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar2.gif" width=32><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar2-r.gif" width=3></TD>



<TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]55[/font]</TD>



<TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]16.47%[/font]</TD></TR>



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<TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]4 weeks on/4 weeks off 2 times in a row[/font]</TD>



<TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar3-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar3.gif" width=92><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar3-r.gif" width=3></TD>



<TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]154[/font]</TD>



<TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]46.11%[/font]</TD></TR>



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<TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]6 on/12 off[/font]</TD>



<TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar4-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar4.gif" width=26><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar4-r.gif" width=3></TD>



<TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]45[/font]</TD>



<TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]13.47%[/font]</TD></TR>



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<TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]8 on/16 off[/font]</TD>



<TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar5-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar5.gif" width=34><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar5-r.gif" width=3></TD>


<TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]57[/font]</TD>



<TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]17.07%[/font]</TD></TR>



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<TD align=right bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]10 on/ 20 off[/font]</TD>



<TD bgColor=#dfdfdf><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar6-l.gif" width=3><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar6.gif" width=14><IMG height=10 alt="" src="http://forum.bodybuilding.com/images/polls/bar6-r.gif" width=3></TD>



<TD width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]23[/font]</TD>


<TD align=middle width=67 bgColor=#dfdfdf>[font="verdana, arial, helvetica"]6.89%[/font]</TD></TR>



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<TD align=right bgColor=#8080a6 colSpan=2><B>Total:</B></TD>



<TD align=middle bgColor=#8080a6><B>334 votes</B></TD>



<TD align=middle bgColor=#8080a6><B>100%</B></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
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Another great thread Jake-karma to you!
Seems that 4on 4off is really working for me very well,have been getting great muscle gains as well as strength gains. Peace
 
Originally posted by garyrabbit
Another great thread Jake-karma to you!
Seems that 4on 4off is really working for me very well,have been getting great muscle gains as well as strength gains. Peace
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Thanks Gary!
 
Yep, 4 on then 4 off still the winner here also, cool. I guess 8 on works fairly well depending on the cycle PH's, but most don't like the recovery time I take it. Karma for you Jake
 
jweave23 said:
Yep, 4 on then 4 off still the winner here also, cool. I guess 8 on works fairly well depending on the cycle PH's, but most don't like the recovery time I take it. Karma for you Jake
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I love how people say "Karma for you" and dont give it to them..... ;) Remember weave, mods can check who gives karma ;) :D
 
jweave added it to the first message methinks. karma log:

"garyrabbit add karma
ex_banana-eater neat
jweave23 Classic, thanks Jake "



btw i give karma like halloween candy
 
Originally posted by YellowJacket

I love how people say "Karma for you" and dont give it to them..... ;) Remember weave, mods can check who gives karma ;) :D
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Check again there, Sherlock. :)
 
4 weeks on 3 times in a row with 6 weeks off in between each then a much longer time off after that is now my ideal cycle plan for fina and 1-test and 1-test/4-AD based on my experience this is will give you the best gains you can get while still being safe on the body to some degree.
 
as far as fina goes; NUMEROUS posts and NUMEROUS actual bodybuilders using the substance say they got their best gains on 6-8 straight weeks of fina/test followed up by clomid and sometimes HCG
 
as far as fina goes; NUMEROUS posts and NUMEROUS actual bodybuilders using the substance say they got their best gains on 6-8 straight weeks of fina/test followed up by clomid and sometimes HCG




They say the same thing about 1-test too.......

Patrick arnold mentions that fina plateaus after many cycles. He said switching to 1-test can break the plateau. I believe that if you want to do loner then 4 weeks your probably gonna have to do a fina/4-AD for 4 weeks then 1-test/4-AD for 4 weeks or something like that i dont know to keep the body guessing. Maybe 1-test/4-AD for 4 weeks then fina for 4 weeks. Hell im gonna ask that in another thread, you got me thinking :)
 
Generally, threads outside of the steroid forum are not speaking of steroids unless otherwise noted. This thread is not about Gear cycles but rather PH/PS cycles. Gear cycles questions should be in the steroid section.
 
trick or treat

ex_banana-eater said:
jweave added it to the first message methinks. karma log:

"garyrabbit add karma
ex_banana-eater neat
jweave23 Classic, thanks Jake "



btw i give karma like halloween candy
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:D ex_banana-eater is my hero!!!!!!!!!!! :D

peace
 
Results are very similar to the same thread I started ages ago at BB.com. When it comes to PH's 4 week cycles are the most prefered.
 
I'm curious to know if anyone has tried Doggcrapp's 4 week blast/2 week cruise method with PH's. With the recent availability of OH Test, it seems that it would be an ideal candidate for the 2 weeks of cruising considering its possible anti-estrogenic properties. Any reasons that this wouldn't work?
 
when someone says 4 on then off/ 2x in a row does that mean literally
4 weeks on
4 weeks PCT
4 weeks on
4 weeks PCT
back to back as opposed to waiting to do the 2nd cycle later on down the road?
 
I'm starting to like the 7-10 day on, 2-3 weeks off, M1T cycle idea more and more. It'll be interesting to see what the longer cycles of this stuff do.
 
bioman said:
I'm starting to like the 7-10 day on, 2-3 weeks off, M1T cycle idea more and more. It'll be interesting to see what the longer cycles of this stuff do.
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just curious why you think this.
 
Flexibility is key... I guess all the votes on this thread are oriented to a mass prioritized cycle with strength gains (a cutter would base it's effectivity on fat-muscle loss ratio/ getting ready for an event which would make it much more variable).

Flexibility is key... I like cyp, eq, deca(bit). I tend to get along very well with steroids that are long lasting/acting to base the cycle and normally an oral to have fun and kickstart (normally winny-dboll-var).

4/4 x2 isnt for me for eg.

ps.dont like to front load

pps. gimme 6-10 week cycles twice a year or, three times every two years (even better)
 
I like 4-5 weeks on, 8 weeks off, probably not necessary to recover that long but I sleep better at night since I am in this for the long-haul.
 
the best cycle i my experience has always been 8 on 6 off. recently been experimenting with blood tests to determine the amount of down time. with 2 off then one week hcg about two amps. my test levels are back to normal at the end of the forth week of down time corse i did this with suspension and winny i imagine oilbase would take longer cause it stays in the body for longer periods of time than water base. any body else monitor there blood?
 
Exactley why s 4 weeks on 4 weeks off a good cycle time? wouldn't you essentially just gain...then loose it all...then gain again...why wouldn't you go 6-8 weeks straight to keep some solid gains?
 
I think it depends on what you are doing(what type). For instance, a MethyD or MOHN cycle for instance could easily go 6 weeks, whereas something more harsh like M1T or MDHT you might think 2 weeks.
 
not that i have any experience but most who are on 1-T/1ad w/ 4ad seem to extend their planned 4 weeker into about 6 weeks
 
so this poll is saying 4 weeks on, 4 weeks PCT, then 4 weeks on, 4 weeks PCT, WITHOUT and extra 4 between the first and second cycle?
 
My first Ph cycle ever was 500mg transdermal 4-ad and 200mg transdermal 1-test, i put on 40lbs in 8 weeks, about 20lbs was muscle 12 was water and 8 was fat, I INFLATED, lol. Loved it though. I've tried M1t 3 times and i think shorter is better for that, like 2 weeks on 2 week off, i've ran a 6 week M1t cycle and u just feel like ****. If your running transdermal 4-ad+1-test I wouldn't hesitate to go as long as 12 weeks, mind you, it'd be alot cheaper to just do a cycle of Test Enthanate :).
 
I am currently doing a 8 week cycle trifecta of H-50 -5 weeks, TST-6 Weeks, and Zol- 6 weeks. I will do PCT for 60 days, remain PH free for another 30 days and then start again the following month= 8 weeks on 90 days off- repeat twice. 4 weeks I have always found to be too short except for supps like Superdrol. I usually make adjustments as needed during a cycle. I always have had success with doing what's best for my body whether it be extending cycles, stacking, or upping amounts. I have never experienced any serious side effects which would cause me concern. I do play it safe but I do it right.
 
it all depends on on the ph's, i myself like the 6-8 week cycles. i always frontload on liver supps to a certain extent depending on what im taking. i also pct on how i feel. usually after 4 weeks i feel great. it depends on the person some people cant handle a high dose 4 week superdrol cycle while others can do an 8 week superdrol/phera cycle without problems.im planning on a superdrol/phera cycle that will prob be 6-8 weeks depending on how i feel with at least 4 weeks pct followed by a phera or finigenx cycle with m-trn and m-zol at the end to shape up for summer...im prob gonna run the phera/finigenx/trn/zol for 8 weeks::twisted:
 
according to this thread, "4 weeks on/4 weeks off 2 times in a row" is the "best" way to cycle.

...does this also apply to pulsing PH's? or just straight cycles?
 
4 on-4 off helps minimize the sides, right?

However, does anyone have blood/lipid #'s to back this up, or is this stricktly experience based? I prefer science to opinion, but hey there is a lot expertise on this board, so I am hoping there is more to this thread than preference...

Thanks ahead of time!

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This isnt really a good poll as it depnds on the steroid taken. For example if you were taking Superdrol you would cycle it 3-4 weeks as the gaines cease then. If you were taking Halodrol you would run for 6-8 weeks as thats when it realy kicks in. All depends on the roid.
 
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