The Adonis Complex

Hey man I'm pretty new to this so don't take my word for it, but I was thinking about adding var to the last 6 weeks of my cycle when I start it and I had a couple vets tell me that unless your single digit body fat Var is a waste of money. Because its so mild it's more of a show steroid meaning its going to give you a harder look and a few more veins but very little strength gain. And if you 10%+ you won't be able to see the effects of it. Like I said don't take my word 100% on that. And if u are single digits completely ignore this post lol I just didn't want to see someone spend a lot of money on it and it not benefit them. Great job so far though man keep it up.
 
Naw I think we spoke about this earlier, var 10%bf, mast 8%bf.
 
Right on man sorry I didnt see it had already been brought up. Just tryin to look out haha I had no idea when I was thinking about it that's why I threw that out.
 
Werd, I didn't know if it was in this post or another. But yeah ur right 10% is best.
 
Hit chest again today...I didn't want to but I haven't worked out with my gym partner in like 3 weeks due to conflicting schedules. Still keeping the intesity at bay this week, I'm so freaked out and paranoid I don't want to get sick lol.

Flat bench:
225x8x8x8

Incline bench
225x5x5x5

Decline cable cross overs
80x8x8

Incline cable cross overs
65x8
65x8 then drop set it

Cable tricep push downs
140x10x10x10

Forearm bb curls
60x20x20x20

Obliques with DB
75x10x10
 
Update:

Yesterday I worked all day so took the day off from the gym. I'm on my way to lift now. Going to hit shoulders, traps, and core today.

Downed:
Hemavol
Jack3d
20mg of SD
 
Go ****ing kill it man.
 
I would say a successful day in the gym. I don't go big on shoulders. I feel that chest and back really hit shoulders hard so on my shoulder days I work out for maintaining strength.

Work out:

Thusters:
135x5x5x5
Superset with machine shoulder press
80x10x10x10

Side lateral raises
30x10x10x10
Superset with DB shrugs
70x12x12x12

Side lateral cable raises
40x10

DB shoulder press
45x10x10
Superset with DB shrugs
45x25x25

Head stand push ups
Until Failure

Machine crunches
210x5x5

I found my sweet spot with SD. if I take all 20mg in the begining of the day I don't get the extreme nausea. Had a great shoulder pump going on. I love it, everyone stare at the gym. People seem to get discouraged around me lol and walk away =)
 
superbeast668 said:
I love the stares and whispers. Its like, guys i know your jealous. You dont gotta hide it.
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And I love the chicks who can't concentrate cuz they're eye f*cking the sh*t out of u their whole workout.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
And I love the chicks who can't concentrate cuz they're eye f*cking the sh*t out of u their whole workout.
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Thats even better. I work out in a sausage factory on a military base though. Some of them broads are bigger than me
 
Haha first off u workout in a sausage factory, that's unsanitary and I'm sure the USDA does not approve.

The other day I went to the gym, normally I just lift at home, and it was packed. So I loaded 185lbs on a bar and stared doing power clean & press. By the 4th rep the room was cleared. We were there to do legs but I knew that if u start doing man things the room will clear out.

On another note had a Pr 460lbs on dead lifts!
 
superbeast668 said:
I thought it was just a massive camel toe.
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Its that var clit lol. My gym is an amature gym, I go to it because its dirt cheap, so I'm one of the biggest guys there haha. My gym partner and I walked by these little kids and we heard them whisper " I want to take steroids and get that big" haha I love it. Little do they know I'm juicing and little do they know my size right now is all natty.
 
technique88 said:
Its that var clit lol. My gym is an amature gym, I go to it because its dirt cheap, so I'm one of the biggest guys there haha. My gym partner and I walked by these little kids and we heard them whisper " I want to take steroids and get that big" haha I love it. Little do they know I'm juicing and little do they know my size right now is all natty.
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I love when that. It makes me feel so alpha. When i went up to ny a week ago all the meat heads at my gym were asking what i was on and if i could get them some. I said go to the grocery store. 4 cans of tuna and a filet mignon a day is all i take.
 
superbeast668 said:
I love when that. It makes me feel so alpha. When i went up to ny a week ago all the meat heads at my gym were asking what i was on and if i could get them some. I said go to the grocery store. 4 cans of tuna and a filet mignon a day is all i take.
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Haha yeah all I ever say is my diet is perfect lol, then they stop asking questions.
 
I feel so guilty, I lett my diet go the past week or so and wow carbs bloat the f**k out of me. Today I am back on my strategic carb eating diet. Very low carbs and high quality fat.
 
technique88 said:
I feel so guilty, I lett my diet go the past week or so and wow carbs bloat the f**k out of me. Today I am back on my strategic carb eating diet. Very low carbs and high quality fat.
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Were they clean carbs or dirty carbs?
 
Dirty, filthy carbs lol. When I'm sick I crave the most unhealthy foods, but I am done with that. I am back to high protein high fat and extremely low carbs.
 
technique88 said:
Little do they know I'm juicing and little do they know my size right now is all natty.
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Technically you can't say that anymore ;). And correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe your first post stated that you ran a helladrol/androhard cycle in the past, didn't it?
technique88 said:
Dirty, filthy carbs lol. When I'm sick I crave the most unhealthy foods, but I am done with that. I am back to high protein high fat and extremely low carbs.
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Do you cycle those macros? Keeping carbs super low on your training days could be detrimental to progress in terms of muscular gain.
 
GreenEarth said:
Technically you can't say that anymore ;). And correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe your first post stated that you ran a helladrol/androhard cycle in the past, didn't it?

Do you cycle those macros? Keeping carbs super low on your training days could be detrimental to progress in terms of muscular gain.
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The helladrol is true but I didnt get bigger from it, just leaner. Technically though you are right lol, it isnt natty. I do cycle carbs. On training days I eat carbs for breakfast and after my lifts. When I say carbs I mean whole wheat breads, oatmeal etc, not vegetables. Although the main carb in vegetables is cellulose which we cannot even digest. Typical training days I will eat a whole wheat belgium waffle for bfast and throw in strawberries and bananas in my post work out shake.
 
Whole wheat belgium waffle sounds delicious. Store-bought or homemade batter?


Sounds like a tasty post-WO shake. For whatever reason I've never been a huge fan of fructose after my workout. On Friday I went with Swedish Fish along with my post-WO shake lol.
 
GreenEarth said:
Whole wheat belgium waffle sounds delicious. Store-bought or homemade batter?

Sounds like a tasty post-WO shake. For whatever reason I've never been a huge fan of fructose after my workout. On Friday I went with Swedish Fish along with my post-WO shake lol.
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I make the batter and have a waffle maker. Best investment since protein lol.

This is actually my first run with fruit in post wo shakes. I used to just buy bulk dextrose and flavored powder and make my own cell tech. So far I am enjoying the fruit not to mention I really never eat fruit so its a good way to incorporate it into my diet.
 
technique88 said:
I make the batter and have a waffle maker. Best investment since protein lol.

This is actually my first run with fruit in post wo shakes. I used to just buy bulk dextrose and flavored powder and make my own cell tech. So far I am enjoying the fruit not to mention I really never eat fruit so its a good way to incorporate it into my diet.
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Mmmm homemade waffles that's what's up.
 
Just got out of work early so I am off to the gym. My body is screaming arm day at me so I must give in =)

Downed:
Hemavol
Jack3d
BCAAs

Arms and core
 
technique88 said:
Just got out of work early so I am off to the gym. My body is screaming arm day at me so I must give in =)

Downed:
Hemavol
Jack3d
BCAAs

Arms and core
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Lucky my gym was closed 2day due to a power outage.
 
I just had an amazing arm work out. My pump was so intense I felt my biceps ripping through my skin. Strangely after I washed the blood from the tear in my arms I saw tough green skin. Then I got angry and smashed the gym apart =)

Work out:

Warmed up with cables

Close grip bench press:
225x5x5x5

Cable push downs
140x12, drop to 80x20
170x6, drop to 80x15
170x6, drop to 80x15

Dips:
BWx12x12

Single arm cable kick backs
30x8
20x12

Barbell curls superset with DB curls
135x5x5x5
35x6x6x6

DB hammer curls on incline bench
35x8x8
50x8x8

Machine preachers one drop set:
80x8,70x8,60x8,50x8,40x8,30x8,20x8

Core:

Trunk flexion machine:
150x10x10x10
Superset with leg raises
12x12x12

Took 2 slinshot post work out and now I am drinking a double scoop protein shake with 1 cup of milk, 2 cups pf frozen strawberries, and one banana.
 
That's how 4-week oral kickers go my friend lol.


I've got another week and a half on epi...interested to see how test is by itself.

I'm sure you'll have an equally interesting experience.
 
Jbeezee said:
Sad day indeed. I have 4 weeks left ;)
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Lucky! SD was definitely awesome stuff. It was unfortunate that I came down with that respiratory infection for most of it but I will definitely be running SD in the future for a PH run. My sides were minimal, I don't know if the test kept a lot at bay but the only thing I could complain of was the nausea. I found that taking all 20mg in the morning kept the nausea away. Did SD work? Well, to put it in perspective, I was out of the gym for 2 weeks, basically when I started the SD, and when I got back in the gym I was actually stronger. That's after 2 weeks of no gym and being sick =)
 
technique88 said:
Lucky! SD was definitely awesome stuff. It was unfortunate that I came down with that respiratory infection for most of it but I will definitely be running SD in the future for a PH run. My sides were minimal, I don't know if the test kept a lot at bay but the only thing I could complain of was the nausea. I found that taking all 20mg in the morning kept the nausea away. Did SD work? Well, to put it in perspective, I was out of the gym for 2 weeks, basically when I started the SD, and when I got back in the gym I was actually stronger. That's after 2 weeks of no gym and being sick =)
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Yeah SD is much more enjoyable with test, it keeps u getting lethargic. That's good u didn't vicious back pumps like some ppl do(including me). Wait til u can really go balls deep on bro, you'll b blown away.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Yeah SD is much more enjoyable with test, it keeps u getting lethargic. That's good u didn't vicious back pumps like some ppl do(including me). Wait til u can really go balls deep on bro, you'll b blown away.
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I kept forgetting I was on test and kept thinking what is everyone talking about, SD isn't harsh...

Now I cannot wait to start var. That's going to be a lot of fun.
 
Back day:

Pull ups
BWx8x8

T-bar rows
90x20
180x10
225x8
270x3 drop set to
180x3,135x3,90x3

Cable rows
105x20
210x10
255x8

BB shrugs
225x10x10

DB shrugs
70x12x12

Decent work considering I worked all day. Kept it relatively quick. I think I might run SD until Saturday.

So I have a new cycle lay out and wanted some feed back on it.

Week 1-12 test e @ 625mg/week
SD week 1-4 @ 20mg ED
Anavar week 5-12 @ 75mg ED
SD week 13 and 14 @ 20mg ED.

Reasoning...run the anavar during the peak of the testosterone. After my last shot of test its technically a gradual decline until its gone then PCT. I figure run SD again for 2 weeks to basically maintain my strength and gains. Realistically I won't be going for more gains week 13 and 14. The test will be decreasing greatly during this time. I feel that this 2 week between period is a transition phase into PCT and should be treated as one. Running the var with technically less test wouldn't yield gains as well as var with optimal test. Just a thought and would like feed back...
 
Oh I forgot to add deadlifts. It has been a while since I've done them so I eased into it and kept it light.

Deadlifts
225x12x12x12

My max dead lift which was a couple years back was 525lb. I want to break that and get 565lb on this cycle.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Your cycle layout is fine bro, I like it.
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Thanx bro. I figured id get the most from var while being on the peak of test. Ending with 2 weeks of SD will allow me to maintain my gains while I transition into PCT.
 
Anavar came in today! Hellzzzzzz yeah! Ordered it last Wednesday and it arrived today, I love my source =)

I will be starting anavar Thursday at 75mg ED for 50 days. Its going to be a fun fun ride.
 
technique88 said:
Anavar came in today! Hellzzzzzz yeah! Ordered it last Wednesday and it arrived today, I love my source =)

I will be starting anavar Thursday at 75mg ED for 50 days. Its going to be a fun fun ride.
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You're gonna have some sick pumps bro.
 
technique88 said:
Anavar came in today! Hellzzzzzz yeah! Ordered it last Wednesday and it arrived today, I love my source =)

I will be starting anavar Thursday at 75mg ED for 50 days. Its going to be a fun fun ride.
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Wait a minute I thought that you ordered it this wednesday and got it in 2 days... Ah forget it
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
You're gonna have some sick pumps bro.
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I can't f**king wait for those sick var pumps! Ill get you all buttered up for when you are going to it =)
 
vidapreta said:
Wait a minute I thought that you ordered it this wednesday and got it in 2 days... Ah forget it
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Lol well come on bro! Considering I sent the money on Wednesday and 2 weekend days of no postal service, id say that some good turn around time =)
 
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