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going to put a serious hurting on a already understaffed USPS.lol the tests are so pointless. unless they're gonna give you treatment why bother
but biden is the man-go joe
going to put a serious hurting on a already understaffed USPS.lol the tests are so pointless. unless they're gonna give you treatment why bother
But what is it about being obese that makes covid so risky? Is it everything that goes along with being obese? For example, some strongmen and power lifters could easily fall into the obese category (not referring to BMI but those with an actual gut and such), but part of me doubts they are dying at the same rate because they are likely in much better internal "shape" (blood pressure, blood sugar, cholesterol, etc) even though the carry plenty of fat on them. Or am I wrong and they are dropping dying quickly too?@Ricky10 the SVT thing is no big deal. It probably startled a couple people though lol
The dad with the stroke is sad though. You know you're going to be a bit messed up after this, right? I know I am. We don't know why about 1 in 200 people get this and there's nothing you can do for them. But a pretty good guess would be genes, passed on from father to son. And in this case they're both having cardiovascular issues. And the obesity link is under appreciated.
But what is it about being obese that makes covid so risky? Is it everything that goes along with being obese? For example, some strongmen and power lifters could easily fall into the obese category (not referring to BMI but those with an actual gut and such), but part of me doubts they are dying at the same rate because they are likely in much better internal "shape" (blood pressure, blood sugar, cholesterol, etc) even though the carry plenty of fat on them. Or am I wrong and they are dropping dying quickly too?
Weird.the virus specifically interacts with fat cells. so fat people are effected worse. I forget the exact mechanism name
I haven't seen this but would appreciate any info on it.
While this is true, there are more outliers to this than you would think. And the obese aren’t usually that obese, and don’t particularly have many or any comorbidities. Drug and alcohol abuse hasn’t been a recurring theme for us at all in regard to COVID PNA patients. Diabetes remains a big onepandemic of people who have made bad health/life decisions....i say this being fully aware there are always exceptions to everything!!!
i would like to know how many of those hospitalized with covid have other ailments that were self inflicted?
a history of overeating, over drinking, drug abuse, smoking, sedentary lifestyle.....
Yeah, even some “obese” people are active and have good cardiovascular health, which is definitely a big factor. As I started to mention above, obese people are often diabetics which in turn leads to chronic inflammation and poor vascular health.But what is it about being obese that makes covid so risky? Is it everything that goes along with being obese? For example, some strongmen and power lifters could easily fall into the obese category (not referring to BMI but those with an actual gut and such), but part of me doubts they are dying at the same rate because they are likely in much better internal "shape" (blood pressure, blood sugar, cholesterol, etc) even though the carry plenty of fat on them. Or am I wrong and they are dropping dying quickly too?
Yeah, the SBT turned SVT was just a first for me, and I have extubated countless people over the years. I’m super attentive when my patients are in SBTs and rarely leave the room as anything can happen. Everyone came running fast for sure! I just had to take him off the vent and bag him during the synchronized cardioversion. SBT over for the day!@Ricky10 the SVT thing is no big deal. It probably startled a couple people though lol
The dad with the stroke is sad though. You know you're going to be a bit messed up after this, right? I know I am. We don't know why about 1 in 200 people get this and there's nothing you can do for them. But a pretty good guess would be genes, passed on from father to son. And in this case they're both having cardiovascular issues. And the obesity link is under appreciated.
Well it's something you and them haven't seen before, but I've seen a few times and worse trying to cardiovert them all night lol
But the curve only lasts a few months and then has an end. You'll need to find a way to cope with things you've done and seen then.
As you well know the problem is much/most of it hasn't stood up to scrutiny. If there's a claim that an antiparasitic does anything for covid it's going to be heavily scrutinized. Papers are being retracted, they're finding falsified data and numbers that don't add up, columns copied and pasted, they can't provide additional data when requested... but, higher quality studies are being done and if it does work we will eventually know. Everyone wants to be published and everyone wants to be the one that found a cure for covid. Until that happens I'll stick with evidence based medicine and do what the other 200 million Americans (and Europe, Russia, and China) are doing. And I've witnessed the whole hydroxychloroquin debacle.
here are a few issues alcohol and drug abuse can cause---high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, liver disease and digestive issues--plus cancer of the breast, mouth and throat, esophagus, liver and colon....if you have ever attended AA or NA meetings you would see the really piss poor health alcohol and drug abusers/addicts are in--about 88,000Americans die of alcohol related problems every year...About 38% of Americans battled a illicit drug use disorder in 2017 that same year 1 out of every 8 battled from both alcohol and drug abuse simultaniously --8,5 million suffered from both a mental health disorder and a substance abuse disorder, or co-occurring disorder.While this is true, there are more outliers to this than you would think. And the obese aren’t usually that obese, and don’t particularly have many or any comorbidities. Drug and alcohol abuse hasn’t been a recurring theme for us at all in regard to COVID PNA patients. Diabetes remains a big one
Yeah, even some “obese” people are active and have good cardiovascular health, which is definitely a big factor. As I started to mention above, obese people are often diabetics which in turn leads to chronic inflammation and poor vascular health.
Apparently there is something else in regard to fat cells as @Kronic mentioned. I didn’t get a chance to read it myself yet.
I have suspicions I'm dealing with a lingering covid infection at the moment and could use some advice. My initial symptoms started last week on Wednesday, with runny nose, sneezing and a general ran down feeling. The following day I felt feverish on and off which proceeded to be the case for a few days. On Sunday I found that I was starting to feel quite a bit better, but after some mild physical exertion playing with my daughter I found that I felt quite a bit worse for the rest of the evening.
This type of pattern has continued into this week, where I'll be feeling pretty good for a day or two and then feeling quite a bit worse again for a half day or so. I find that any physical exertion leaves me feeling pretty tired afterwards as well. Upon the initial appearance of symptoms I took a rapid covid test which came up negative. I felt my testing procedure wasn't spot on so I took another test the following day which also came up negative.
I think I put too much credence in these negative tests and instead of acting more instinctively and assuming this was a likely covid infection and acting accordingly I decided to treat it as more of a cold instead. To help recovery I didn't use everything at my disposal (I don't have a ton of stuff on hand but do have a few items which could have been of benefit), I just took 5-6 grams of vitamin c per day and took cold fx as well (it's a ginseng extract which I've found helps get over upper respiratory infections in the past). I take Evomuse Gut Health year round as an overall health/immune system booster, and use lion's mane for it's immune system boosting effects as well. I've had enough of the ups and downs of this and would like to get rid of the lingering effects I'm still dealing with. Would it still be worthwhile to use some of the other stuff I have available?
I have vitamin C powder which I can megadose, resveros topical, and if I'm not mistaken I think I also may have a bottle or two of BLR Shield and Defence stashed away also. Do you guys think it would be worthwhile starting these items a week and a half into my illness, or would it be better to save this stuff for future use?
For what it's worth, I tested positive for covid this past Monday. I'm not vaccinated.
I had a really bad headache and was slightly nauseous so I checked my temperature and I had a fever of 105! I checked it several times and it was always between 104.7-105.1 I took 1000mg Tylenol and started chugging ice water, for the next 48 hours my temp bounced between 101-104 If I remember correctly, but I didn't ever feel sick other then the first couple hours of day 1. My whole body had bad aches but no stuff nose, no sore throat, no sick feelings. The past 2 days my temp floated between 99-101 and I got a runny nose on and off but nothing serious and still no sick feeling, body still hurts.
Today is day 6, fever is pretty much gone Runny nose and my lower body is still sore.
Other then being worried about the fever the first 2 days, I wouldn't say this was bad at all. So far if it wasn't a shitty thing to do I very easily could have went to work everyday.
The worst part is now I'm starting to feel run down, but idk if it's because of covid or because all of my routine has been interrupted. My sleep schedule is all over the place, lots of naps, no real going to bed at night. My diet is **** Lately and I went from working out 2-3hours a day 5 days a week and working a labor job to sitting on a couch.
All in all I have had hangovers that felt worse then covid but I'm definitely starting to feel run down.
Not sick, not really tired, it's more like a lack of motivation, low energy and body ache
Why would I want to raise my body temperature, that would make the fever worse... But also isint hydrotherapy a pain treatment?if you still have a small fever you might try to do hydrotherapy to raise your body temp a bit
While that is true, I was just saying that we haven’t had any COVID patients with a significant history of alcoholism or drug abuse. In other words, there has been no correlation. Certainly it’s best to avoid alcohol abuse for multiple reasons. Nobody is going to argue that..here are a few issues alcohol and drug abuse can cause---high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, liver disease and digestive issues--plus cancer of the breast, mouth and throat, esophagus, liver and colon....if you have ever attended AA or NA meetings you would see the really piss poor health alcohol and drug abusers/addicts are in--about 88,000Americans die of alcohol related problems every year...About 38% of Americans battled a illicit drug use disorder in 2017 that same year 1 out of every 8 battled from both alcohol and drug abuse simultaniously --8,5 million suffered from both a mental health disorder and a substance abuse disorder, or co-occurring disorder.
ever hear the saying 'looks like a meth 'head'? alcohol and drug abusers/addicts are going to have poorer health than the general public and many of them are going to be homeless--homeless people experience a very high susceptibility for symptomatic infection and mortality from covid-19 due to their living circumstances and high percentage of alcohol and drug use.
At one point I drank about20- 30 drinks a day, and I did it for well over a year straight, and I had another stretch where I did that 4-5x week for over 3 years straight up to the point I quit drinking.While that is true, I was just saying that we haven’t had any COVID patients with a significant history of alcoholism or drug abuse. In other words, there has been no correlation. Certainly it’s best to avoid alcohol abuse for multiple reasons. Nobody is going to argue that..
Interestingly, we actually did have a patient on a ventilator due to alcohol induced liver failure a few months ago who later contracted COVID due to an in hospital exposure (possibly a visiting family member). I don’t recall if she was vaccinated or not, but her lungs remained clear throughout her illness. She ultimately ended up being a terminal extubation secondary to liver failure.
That’s awesome! Much like smoking (and COVID for that matter), alcohol consumption seems to have a very individual response to when/if it leads to serious illness and level of health detriments.At one point I drank about20- 30 drinks a day, and I did it for well over a year straight, and I had another stretch where I did that 4-5x week for over 3 years straight up to the point I quit drinking.
I had no long-term liver damage whatsoever. I always wondered how much someone really needs to drink to crap their liver out
I’ll never forget a fellow RT of mine that tried Tamiflu a few years ago. It was only upon starting it that she felt like death and couldn’t stop throwing up. It didn’t take her very long to determine she was better off without it.Save it. You'll feel better soon.
This kind of reminds me of the first time I got sick as an adult and went to see a doctor. I felt miserable, couldn't work, couldn't eat etc. She tested me for strep throat, I was negative, so she said "go home and rest." I was dumbfounded. "Isn't there anything you can give me?" She said "nope, go home and rest."
I said "you didn't even test me for the flu" and she said it doesn't matter if it's the flu. She can only give Tamiflu in the first 48 hours of symptoms and it's past that timeframe. And nowadays we have a lot more information about Tamiflu and it's questionable how much it helps or if it helps at all. If it was strep I could take antibiotics but strep is rare in adults and I tested negative.
So now we have this pandemic, covid being twice as bad as the flu, and people want to be tested for it and have a cure. It's just never been that way. We're lucky to have what we have.
But in your case @max silver the actual viral infection should be gone by now and your body is just damaged, inflamed, and healing.
ask larry hagman-he went thru 2 livers-oops sorry he's dead...i started drinking and smoking pot at 13 the summer before HS, and starting in HS i was drugging along with drinking and i drank like a alcoholic until around 40 when i was blessed to be able to put the bottle down and give up all recreational drugs-my liver is fine and doc says i'm in perfect heath...At one point I drank about20- 30 drinks a day, and I didfor well over a year straight, and I had another stretch where I did that 4-5x week for over 3 years straight up to the point I quit drinking.
I had no long-term liver damage whatsoever. I always wondered how much someone really needs to drink to crap their liver out
i have never been asked about my drinking history ever in the few times i've been at ER, and most if not all alcoholis/cdrug abusers /addicts will lie about abuse-this is common knowledge....ask a guy who is totally shytfaced how much he's had to drink-one or two drinks, lol....c'mon man!!!!While that is true, I was just saying that we haven’t had any COVID patients with a significant history of alcoholism or drug abuse. In other words, there has been no correlation. Certainly it’s best to avoid alcohol abuse for multiple reasons. Nobody is going to argue that..
Interestingly, we actually did have a patient on a ventilator due to alcohol induced liver failure a few months ago who later contracted COVID due to an in hospital exposure (possibly a visiting family member). I don’t recall if she was vaccinated or not, but her lungs remained clear throughout her illness. She ultimately ended up being a terminal extubation secondary to liver failure.
I have suspicions I'm dealing with a lingering covid infection at the moment and could use some advice. My initial symptoms started last week on Wednesday, with runny nose, sneezing and a general ran down feeling. The following day I felt feverish on and off which proceeded to be the case for a few days. On Sunday I found that I was starting to feel quite a bit better, but after some mild physical exertion playing with my daughter I found that I felt quite a bit worse for the rest of the evening.
This type of pattern has continued into this week, where I'll be feeling pretty good for a day or two and then feeling quite a bit worse again for a half day or so. I find that any physical exertion leaves me feeling pretty tired afterwards as well. Upon the initial appearance of symptoms I took a rapid covid test which came up negative. I felt my testing procedure wasn't spot on so I took another test the following day which also came up negative.
I think I put too much credence in these negative tests and instead of acting more instinctively and assuming this was a likely covid infection and acting accordingly I decided to treat it as more of a cold instead. To help recovery I didn't use everything at my disposal (I don't have a ton of stuff on hand but do have a few items which could have been of benefit), I just took 5-6 grams of vitamin c per day and took cold fx as well (it's a ginseng extract which I've found helps get over upper respiratory infections in the past). I take Evomuse Gut Health year round as an overall health/immune system booster, and use lion's mane for it's immune system boosting effects as well. I've had enough of the ups and downs of this and would like to get rid of the lingering effects I'm still dealing with. Would it still be worthwhile to use some of the other stuff I have available?
I have vitamin C powder which I can megadose, resveros topical, and if I'm not mistaken I think I also may have a bottle or two of BLR Shield and Defence stashed away also. Do you guys think it would be worthwhile starting these items a week and a half into my illness, or would it be better to save this stuff for future use?
Vitamin B3For what it's worth, I tested positive for covid this past Monday. I'm not vaccinated.
I had a really bad headache and was slightly nauseous so I checked my temperature and I had a fever of 105! I checked it several times and it was always between 104.7-105.1 I took 1000mg Tylenol and started chugging ice water, for the next 48 hours my temp bounced between 101-104 If I remember correctly, but I didn't ever feel sick other then the first couple hours of day 1. My whole body had bad aches but no stuff nose, no sore throat, no sick feelings. The past 2 days my temp floated between 99-101 and I got a runny nose on and off but nothing serious and still no sick feeling, body still hurts.
Today is day 6, fever is pretty much gone Runny nose and my lower body is still sore.
Other then being worried about the fever the first 2 days, I wouldn't say this was bad at all. So far if it wasn't a shitty thing to do I very easily could have went to work everyday.
The worst part is now I'm starting to feel run down, but idk if it's because of covid or because all of my routine has been interrupted. My sleep schedule is all over the place, lots of naps, no real going to bed at night. My diet is **** Lately and I went from working out 2-3hours a day 5 days a week and working a labor job to sitting on a couch.
All in all I have had hangovers that felt worse then covid but I'm definitely starting to feel run down.
Not sick, not really tired, it's more like a lack of motivation, low energy and body ache
For what ....Vitamin B3
your lingering lethargy and general feeling of being run down. Covid depletes your body of vitamin B, and specifically B3. It has been shown to fix the "long covid" people sometimes experienceFor what ....
I already take a multivitamin and b complex 2x day. That gives me 80mg of B3 which is 500% or 5x the recommended daily dose.your lingering lethargy and general feeling of being run down. Covid depletes your body of vitamin B, and specifically B3. It has been shown to fix the "long covid" people sometimes experience
Why would I want to raise my body temperature, that would make the fever worse... But also isint hydrotherapy a pain treatment?
The pain isint that serious tho that it needs treatment, Im not into doing anything I don't have to do lol. So I'm gonna pass.
80mg is a much smaller dose than needed. The 5x daily dose is nothing to worry about as "daily dose" values were calculated a VERY long time ago. Also, B is water soluble and you'll excrete any excess when you peeI already take a multivitamin and b complex 2x day. That gives me 80mg of B3 which is 500% or 5x the recommended daily dose.
Ya I know all that, I pee Neon yellow twice a day, so my next question is how will taking more help if I'm already peeing out a bunch of excess b vitamins. If I take more wouldn't I just piss it out?80mg is a much smaller dose than needed. The 5x daily dose is nothing to worry about as "daily dose" values were calculated a VERY long time ago. Also, B is water soluble and you'll excrete any excess when you pee
i take a stacker 2 -B12 at least once everyday-look it up. it does contain 150mg caffeine but i get a nice boost from it.I already take a multivitamin and b complex 2x day. That gives me 80mg of B3 which is 500% or 5x the recommended daily dose.
I know what it is, Im not actively looking to take any more supplements especially stimulant based ones as im working on removing caffeine completely, (I have a pot of coffee per day habit) I was just responding to the guy about The b3. And like I said before, I'm already pissing out a bunch of extra b-vitamins. I can't see how taking more is going to help if I can't even absorb the amount I'm taking right now.i take a stacker 2 -B12 at least once everyday-look it up. it does contain 150mg caffeine but i get a nice boost from it.
I checked out the label on BLR Shield and Defend and it contains a quercetin/niacin (B3) co-crystal. After looking through various long covid protocols both quercetin and niacin are indicated, as well as selenium (which I just started using as I tested low on a heavy metals urine screening recently), vitamin C, zinc (also in Shield and Defend), and vitamin D (I take 5000iu presently). I'm only a week and half after initial symptoms but I think I'll follow this protocol until I start to get rid of the post exertion malaise that I'm currently dealing with. I'll have no way to know whether my body successfully dealt with the lingering symptoms on it's own or if the supplement protocol helped resolve the issues sooner, but I figure at this point I'd rather be proactive then end up dealing with this for weeks or months on end.your lingering lethargy and general feeling of being run down. Covid depletes your body of vitamin B, and specifically B3. It has been shown to fix the "long covid" people sometimes experience
Tested positive yesterday. Felt off at 9pm on Sunday, Tossed and turned all night due to muscle soreness. More of the same Monday morning plus headaches and a small cough. Did the PCR test and results a few hours later were positive. Doing the Super vitamin B, Vitamin D 5000, Vitamin C, plus usual vits except those related to training. 5 day quarantine at home. Will test again on Saturday to see if negative. Hope to see Mom on Sunday. Feel much better today. only recurring muscle soreness in a bad way compared to the good soreness after a heavy workout. Believe it was a trade show I attended at Daytona on Sun, Mon, Tues of the previous week. Eating well both days. I admit usually I run around the house like a teen and now I am slower paced going up and down the stairs. No brain fog as I went back to jr hs to remember events from school and names and also a bunch of WW2 armor and aircraft specs.
Can't believe this is a thing. You are still asked to quarantine for covid? No reason to test for it.
nonedo you have any nasal congestion? I recommend nasal flushes
I am contagious for five days after first symptoms and maybe up to 10 days after and two days prior to symptom onset. Watching my GF to see if she was infected as we slept together on Sat and Sun evening.Can't believe this is a thing. You are still asked to quarantine for covid? No reason to test for it.
I am contagious for five days after first symptoms and maybe up to 10 days after and two days prior to symptom onset. Watching my GF to see if she was infected as we slept together on Sat and Sun evening.
7:12 am update. GF tested positive this a.m. General weakness and slight cough only symptoms.
I do have that thermometer gun and normal temps. Well I just posted what the CDC indicates they were correct so far. GF is now positive and I infected her sometime in the window indicated.contagion isn't actually a static number. I think it's something like you need like 2 days of no more fever. so for example people who get a respiratory infection will probably be contagious for a longer period of time. you can get a thermometer gun for pretty cheap and it makes temperature monitoring easy and almost fun
I do have that thermometer gun and normal temps. Well I just posted what the CDC indicates they were correct so far. GF is now positive and I infected her sometime in the window indicated.
I know. I mentioned that as well hence taking a pcr test on Saturday to confirm I can see Mom on Sunday for M's Day.you have the read the entire CDC page and not just listen to the news
Ending isolation if you had symptoms:
End isolation after 5 full days if you are fever-free for 24 hours (without the use of fever-reducing medication) and your symptoms are improving.
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of course also use common sense. if you have a fever then you're probably contagious