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Test is high but doc wants me to take more?

drejb

drejb

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Hey guys.

Current TRT protocol

Test E 150mg/w
HCG 1000iu/w
Adex .75mg/w

My labs show that my test is at 1025. Measured at 42 hours post injection (what doc says is my peak)

I pin every Monday and Thursday

The doc says I should take more because that level is my peak and I sit below that throughout the week.

My doc is also not used to having his patients pin twice a week. So I believe by him saying that, he is judging based off a one pin a week protocol

Judging off of this. Should I keep my dose the same? How much will I actually dip under my peak if I’m pinning twice a week?

I don’t want to be sky high test at all times and cause any health issues down the line.

Hopefully this question makes sense

Please let me know if it doesn’t
 
Why not keep the things as they are and do bold test at another time of the week when the blood test is supposed to be lower/lowest?
 
When he checked it, was it after a 75mg inj., or a 150mg?
Does he know you are pinning 2x per week?
 
drejb said:
After a 75mg injection. And yes he does but he’s not used to that protocol
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Wow. Thats pretty good.

Im like you, I'd almost just want to keep it there, for a permanent situation. IMO, you can't be dipping down the rest of the week, if you pin twice.
 
Your doc is giving you more test? I’m not sure I’m seeing the problem lol

In reality though if he’s monitoring it’s not going to cause any issues to go with his suggestions now and re evaluate after next bloods etc....
 
Trt should be about how you feel, within reason. Why cant you tell him, hey, I feel great on this current protocol, so I dont want to increase my shots based solely on numbers.

He'd be a bit of a retard to totally ignore you, his patient, and push for more drugs against your wishes if you are reporting you feel great (if in fact you do). Id tell him you feel great, and thats thanks to his assistance anyway. He cant force you to take more (he has no legitimate health reasons to push it, as far as we know).
 
I am surprised you even need an ai on just 150 mg a week especially if splitting it up by pinning twice a week. Did your doctor put you in the ai off the bat or after bloodwork indicated high estrogen after initiating trt? My doctor raised me to 200 mg a week which raised my estrogen too high so I requested to be lowered because I don’t want to be on an ai since it can impact lipids which already get impacted by being on test. Dr. lowered me to 175 mg and are going to retest my e. If e still comes back high I am gong to request to go down to 150 mg a week. Like you, I don’t want to be on a high cruise dose and suffer the health effects later on.
 
Your bloodwork looks perfect where it’s at. Cyp and enan peak around 2-3 days after pinning, so realistically, I can’t see your total test dropping much below the 1025ng that it was at in your bloodwork.
 
JoePaul39 said:
I am surprised you even need an ai on just 150 mg a week especially if splitting it up by pinning twice a week. Did your doctor put you in the ai off the bat or after bloodwork indicated high estrogen after initiating trt? My doctor raised me to 200 mg a week which raised my estrogen too high so I requested to be lowered because I don’t want to be on an ai since it can impact lipids which already get impacted by being on test. Dr. lowered me to 175 mg and are going to retest my e. If e still comes back high I am gong to request to go down to 150 mg a week. Like you, I don’t want to be on a high cruise dose and suffer the health effects later on.
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At .5mg adex my E2 was still at 175. So he bumped it to .75
 
AnabolicGuru said:
Your bloodwork looks perfect where it’s at. Cyp and enan peak around 2-3 days after pinning, so realistically, I can’t see your total test dropping much below the 1025ng that it was at in your bloodwork.
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Is it safe to stay that high long term? Here in Canada normal range is 12-26nmol. I’m at 35.5 which converts to 1025
 
drejb said:
Is it safe to stay that high long term? Here in Canada normal range is 12-26nmol. I’m at 35.5 which converts to 1025
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I can’t give an answer on that because everyone is different. You’ll just have to reflect on your blood values such as lipids, cbc, kidney, etc to find out if it’s too much or not. I was personally around 1500ng/dl for a while without any noticeable impacts on my bloodwork. I also know that Marc Lobliner is around the 1000+ ng/dl area and his bloodwork is fine as well.
 
drejb said:
Is it safe to stay that high long term? Here in Canada normal range is 12-26nmol. I’m at 35.5 which converts to 1025
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If I were on TRT (at the moment I believe) that's where I'd want to be.
 
AnabolicGuru said:
I can’t give an answer on that because everyone is different. You’ll just have to reflect on your blood values such as lipids, cbc, kidney, etc to find out if it’s too much or not. I was personally around 1500ng/dl for a while without any noticeable impacts on my bloodwork. I also know that Marc Lobliner is around the 1000+ ng/dl area and his bloodwork is fine as well.
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My labs include a hematology panel but the photo won’t post. my CBC is 5.05 on a scale of 4.5-6. This was done the same month of my last blood donation in April. I won’t be able to donate for another 6 months because I just got tattooed. Not sure if that’s high or not
 
drejb said:
My labs include a hematology panel but the photo won’t post. my CBC is 5.05 on a scale of 4.5-6. This was done the same month of my last blood donation in April. I won’t be able to donate for another 6 months because I just got tattooed. Not sure if that’s high or not
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By cbc I was referring to values such as hematocrit, hemaglobin, rbc, etc. And as long as it’s in range, it’s fine.
 
If you end up high on your rbc count next time you have a cbc run and its still to early to let you donate, you can always have a therapeutic phlebotomy done.

Im surprised you can donate while on trt anyways. I figured theyd turn you away for it.
 
Generally speaking, The only reasons drugs are brought up at all concerning blood donation is:
- The ability to give consent for a blood draw
- IV drug users have a drastic increase in communicable bloodborne illnesses.

Blood with testosterone floating around doesn’t make the recipient super strong nor does blood with cocaine in it make the recipient high. It doesn’t work like that.
 
I know blood isnt quite as extreme as organs but i had a friend pass away that was an organ donor. They had a recipient lined up for his eyes but did more testing and ended up asking his wife if he had ever done steroids. He had done a few cycles so she said ya and they decided his eyes were no longer donation friendly.

I havent donated blood since highschool but i just remember them asking a whole lot of questions that didnt seem like they would matter much, and after the experience with my friends eyes i figured blood would be the same. Guess not.
 
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