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Test E cycle

Dyou

Dyou

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Hey guys, I know theirs a hundred of these posts but I want to get my facts strait before I do anything. I have been lifting for almost 10 years now and I have used many pro hormones. My most recent being Spawn, which was a year ago. Now im wanting to get everything together for a 10 week Test E cycle and I have a few questions. I used clomid as PCT for Spawn but the emotional sides were horrible. Does Nolva have this same effect? If not would it suffice? I read its best to run an AI on cycle. Is their anything cheaper than Adex that is worth it?? If HCG is used during is an AI even necessary? How bad is shedding? Would Minoxodil combat this enough?
 
First, nolva is just as good as clomid and no I have never had any emotional sides, I usually feel good on it! Second, an AI is not required to be taken while on cycle, but it is great to have it on hand. You really should want the extra estro that you will get from the test, makes for better gains and a more anabolic environment. And you could get Letro, the strongest AI for about 30 bucks of the liquid version, which is just as good as the pills...
 
HCG is used to keep your testes running, AI is used to control estrogen. Although they serve different purposes, both are good to at least have on-hand (although I would use the HCG on-cycle regardless). Like gamer said, you want some estro in your body during cycle but not too much. Use the AI if you think you are getting gyno or if you simply wanna reduce some bloating.

I have no experience w/ test or shedding so I can't comment from specific experience however, finasteride (Proscar/Propecia) is usually the best defense for hair loss and other DHT related side effects. Will also help ease prostate problems. You should be able to get liquid finasteride wherever your getting your other ancillaries. Using minoxidil couldn't hurt either but shedding is probably more likely to happen to those who are genetically prone to male balding.
 
gamer2be08 said:
Saw Palmetto is great for reducing prostate inflammation and all the dht related sides like shedding!
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i really doubt he will get any sides at all... probably nothing more than some acne. Lets not forget, its just testosterone.. Once you start getting into all the other things, than sides come along. If you want gains, you gotta put up with sides.
 
GLHF said:
i really doubt he will get any sides at all... probably nothing more than some acne. Lets not forget, its just testosterone.. Once you start getting into all the other things, than sides come along. If you want gains, you gotta put up with sides.
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Agreed!
 
I'd say run Dr. Crisler's (aka SWALE) hCG protocol. You can google it, but basically 250IU of hCG every third day or so should keep your balls full sized. Going into PCT with full sized balls should help you recover much faster and you could argue that it makes the cycle safer overall as well.

I would also recommend an AI. This is especially true if you are running hCG (which you should) because of the added aromatase activity. As long as you are not overdoing it, it shouldn't have a significant effect in hindering your gains. Controlling estrogen will also help you minimize fat gain. Some people think it's "too powerful", but if price is a factor I'd probably run low-dosed Letrozole. With it's half-life, you could even take it EOD. If you get joint problems, just lower the dose.

I didn't run an AI my first cycle and the estrogen sides hit me hard. I bloated like crazy, my face changed so much a lot of people didn't even recognize me right away. Pretty much gives you away as an AAS user as well. Next time I will be running Letro.

If you didn't like Clomid, give Nolva a shot. I think either compound will do the job and sometimes it just comes down to preference. Some people swear Nolva works better for them while others say the same about Clomid.
 
thanks for all the replies. what would be the dosing protocol for nolva? is HCG a controlled substance?
 
Dyou said:
thanks for all the replies. what would be the dosing protocol for nolva? is HCG a controlled substance?
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Standard dosing protocol is 40/40/20/20 for Nolva PCT. I do believe you need a prescription for hCG but it is very easy to find online and also pretty cheap. Just make sure you buy it still in powder form, sealed in glass ampules and you'll be fine. It's so cheap I doubt you'll encounter any fake stuff out there. Stay away if you find hCG that is already reconstituted in liquid.
 
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