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hyperCat

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I'm looking to move away from the methylated phs, and try something that isn't quite as harsh on the body. I recently came off an Osta cycle that I bridged into a 4 wk epi cycle. By most standards around here, it was a mild cycle (20-30-30-40), but I still started feeling like sh1t toward the end. The first week of pct wasn't bad, but the second week really sucked. I'm now into my 3rd week of pct and starting to feel back to normal. Not a bad recovery time, but like I said, I'm really wanting to try something else to see how it compares in both gains and recovery time.

Been reading up a bit on some of the test base phs out there, and from the limited research I've done to date, it appears that 4-dhea is a mild but effective test base. I've also been reading up some on how dht-based phs really should be stacked with some of the heavier phs such as SD or tren. My questions are:

1) Would Alpha Bulk solo work well at the recommended dosage? I've read that 4-dhea isn't as suppressive as 1-dhea, but that gains aren't as good, and they really complement each other well. I'm willing to sacrifice some of the gains for less sides, as long as I can still put on 6-7 lbs of lean body weight. Would 4-dhea alone be enough?

2) Can/should a dht-based compound be stacked with 4-dhea, or is that mainly for other types of compounds like sd, tren, etc?

3) When stacked with something like epi or hdrol, is a test base supposed to limit side effects, or just make the cycle more effective?

Thanks for any input guys...
 
Using a test base will not only enhance your gains but it will limit the sides you'd normally get from running something like epi or hrol alone :icon16:

I learned this the hard way.:angryfire:
 
Yeah, makes sense. How much more shutdown do you typically get when adding in test (as 4-dhea)? I'm down with the fewer side effects while on, but don't necessarily want to make pct any harder, either. I know, it's kinda like having your cake and eating it to, but you know what I'm sayin'...
 
Yea but unfortunately with test it'll cause shutdown with any kind of reasonable cycle length, I'd say anything longer than 4 weeks. But at the same time as long as you have nolva(or whatever you prefer) you'll bounce back just fine. I'd say throw the test in there bro. for sure.
 
Yes, I am about to run an SD to EPI bridge with AMS 4ad rde chrome. I have a thread I just started but am not starting this cycle until after my little one is born in two weeks. I can't wait to compare the results to my last solo 5 week SD run.
 
Yes, I am about to run an SD to EPI bridge with AMS 4ad rde chrome. I have a thread I just started but am not starting this cycle until after my little one is born in two weeks. I can't wait to compare the results to my last solo 5 week SD run.

Any experience running 4ad or alpha bulk solo? If I decide to stack it with anything, it'll probably be hdrol. But again, my whole point is to limit sides and try to get away from the methyls. Are you going to start running the 4ad first, or start them at the same time?
 
never ran bulk. i have ran ANDRO mass solo with very nice results. i don't know about the alpha products. they are way underdosed compared to the andro series. cost less but to get the same dosage i believe it would actually cost moe with the alpha. i don't believe all that crap about forerunner having a superior delivery system either.
i had no sides at all with andro mass and i ran it a a very high dose. 9 caps a day
 
AndroEnhance is coming out soon, some time this month, and will be the perfect topical test base
 
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