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T3 as a standalone for a cut??

MakaveliThaDon

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I've only ever ran T3 with clen, which i've done multiple times with good results. But just recently i tried starting up a T3 and clen cycle and i couldn't handle the clen sides this time around, i might have started a little high on the dose, although i know about pyramiding the dosage up, i still might have started a bit high. But i couldn't handle the cramps, racing heart beat and what not that i got. Would just T3 ran with an anabolic be just as potent for cutting but without the nasty sides?



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Eric
 
Would just T3 ran with an anabolic be just as potent for cutting but without the nasty sides?
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I think you would be quite fine with a prop/T3 or a longer ester testosterone and T3. The idea has been floated around quite a bit lately on some other boards. I like it b/c so often T3 has few side effects. In fact, both compounds would have really low or easily dealt with side effects. A Test/T3 cycle would be a nice cheap cutter. Kind of hassle free.

Other than standard T3 sides, the only generalized thing I wouldn't like about it is that both Test and T3 increase appetite. For that reason, I would probably choose an anabolic that had an appetite suppressive effect or an anabolic that had no effect on my appetite.
 
T3 solo was very catabolic for me even at low dosages, and in was on superdrol. clen, on the other hand, is fucking amazing.

and T3 does impact heart health. check around.
 
I wouldn't use >50mcg t3, YMMV though. I'm not interested in getting cut at any cost and I think diet, exercise and EC is plenty in most situations.
 
T3 is a way better burner than clen, but it causes the same heart acceleration. Take a beta blocker with it to control peripheral sides and an anabolic so you don't burn muscle. Excellent w/o recovery too.
 
DR.D said:
T3 is a way better burner than clen, but it causes the same heart acceleration. Take a beta blocker with it to control peripheral sides and an anabolic so you don't burn muscle. Excellent w/o recovery too.
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Dr. D Beta blockers do slow down the metabolism though. Doesn't that counter the T3 some? I'm just saying I've had bad expiriences with betas(inderal).
 
Dr. D said:
T3 is a way better burner than clen, but it causes the same heart acceleration
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Agreed. The fat burning properties of T3 are nothing short of amazing.

MakaveliThaDon- are you sure the racing heart problem wasn't due to the T3? It's been my experience that the heart acceleration with T3 is actually worse that with clen. Clen gives me no breathing problems whatsoever, but the same cannot be said for the T3.
 
mb27 said:
Dr. D Beta blockers do slow down the metabolism though. Doesn't that counter the T3 some? I'm just saying I've had bad expiriences with betas(inderal).
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Only indirectly, but not enough to matter. You still run hot, only the pulse rate is managable. Inderal is one of the worst betas you can use. I've tried to use it before and it's made me depressed everytime. Many newer ones are available. Even some alpha agonist like Catapres work well. I take a lot of potassium too.
 
I take attenolol, the first day I took it, my strength was affected. After like 5 days on I'd completely adapted though... Works alright for me.
 
exnihilo said:
I take attenolol, the first day I took it, my strength was affected. After like 5 days on I'd completely adapted though... Works alright for me.
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Yeah, it's true. Don't let the first few days scare you, adaptation will occur and you get your energy back.
 
DR.D said:
Only indirectly, but not enough to matter. You still run hot, only the pulse rate is managable. Inderal is one of the worst betas you can use. I've tried to use it before and it's made me depressed everytime. Many newer ones are available. Even some alpha agonist like Catapres work well. I take a lot of potassium too.
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Yah I had a natural hyperthyroid and the Doc put me on inderal. I HATED it. I experienced a little depression on it as well.
 
DR.D said:
T3 is a way better burner than clen, but it causes the same heart acceleration. Take a beta blocker with it to control peripheral sides and an anabolic so you don't burn muscle. Excellent w/o recovery too.
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we'll have to agree to disagree on this...T3 may BURN faster, but i still prefer a substance that ONLY burns what i want to lose - fat. also, T3 cannot be used during PCT (due to the catabolism and the fact that you dont run anabolics then of course), which is a perfect time to incorporate clen to slim down (even w/o calorie restriction) and retain LBM.

granted, T3 sides are not as noticeable to everyone around you like clen sides are....
 
same_old said:
we'll have to agree to disagree on this...T3 may BURN faster, but i still prefer a substance that ONLY burns what i want to lose - fat. also, T3 cannot be used during PCT (due to the catabolism and the fact that you dont run anabolics then of course), which is a perfect time to incorporate clen to slim down (even w/o calorie restriction) and retain LBM.

granted, T3 sides are not as noticeable to everyone around you like clen sides are....
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I do agree with you bro, don't use thyroid during PCT in the great majority of cases. Maybe clen would burn at high doses, but I just can't ever get over about 40 without shaking like a leaf. I need my fine motor skills and just can't have that.
 
DR.D said:
I do agree with you bro, don't use thyroid during PCT in the great majority of cases. Maybe clen would burn at high doses, but I just can't ever get over about 40 without shaking like a leaf. I need my fine motor skills and just can't have that.
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hear you loud and clear. i shake like katherine hepburn on 40mcg for a day or two but it fades and i begin to need more. worked up to 100 this last time with similar effects each day.

if i was a mechanic and not an engineer, there's no way i could use clen (or Superdrol/1-T/M1T for that matter). to each his own.
 
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