Swim's cut

Cgkone said:
Its like test no ester. I taste it immediately.
Also injectable street drugs.
You shoot them and in seconds your tasting and smelling the drug
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Whats weird is I had deca one time...as soon as I pinned tasted and smelled rubbing alcohol like smell..very strong.
 
Cgkone said:
Its like test no ester. I taste it immediately.
Also injectable street drugs.
You shoot them and in seconds your tasting and smelling the drug
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Yeah i get it with street drugs because its going straight into the blood stream. Kinda crazy to get it from an IM shot though.
 
christ83189 said:
Yeah i get it with street drugs because its going straight into the blood stream. Kinda crazy to get it from an IM shot though.
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Well if u muscle heroin same thing happens.
It would happen with speed and coke just nobody muscles those because it burns so bad. I've known junkies that had to muscle all shots because they had no place to find a vein.
Plus I've been so spun I put a hole gram of speed into my bicep.....I still got a call. Not
As intense and it hurt for a week after.
 
christ83189 said:
Yeah i get it with street drugs because its going straight into the blood stream. Kinda crazy to get it from an IM shot though.
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Just like if a venomous snake bites your ass......that ****s in your blood quick. If its in you its in you.
Test no ester you taste instantly. At least i do.
I think tren is just harsher so it tickles.
I never have coughed from heroin only speed because that stuff burns .
 
Cgkone said:
Well if u muscle heroin same thing happens.
It would happen with speed and coke just nobody muscles those because it burns so bad. I've known junkies that had to muscle all shots because they had no place to find a vein.
Plus I've been so spun I put a hole gram of speed into my bicep.....I still got a call. Not
As intense and it hurt for a week after.
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Crazy ive never heard of anyone hitting heroin or speed IM. I mean i could see it because ive known some people who had a really hard time finding a vein that wasnt collapsed. Ive never been that bad. Needles werent my thing back then so idk much about all that. I always smoked or snorted sh1t. Pills were my main thing though. But my brother was all about the IV
 
christ83189 said:
Crazy ive never heard of anyone hitting heroin or speed IM. I mean i could see it because ive known some people who had a really hard time finding a vein that wasnt collapsed. Ive never been that bad. Needles werent my thing back then so idk much about all that. I always smoked or snorted sh1t. Pills were my main thing though. But my brother was all about the IV
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Isn't the IV actually safer but considered more trashy just like steroids? Dirty needles is common with drug addicts but if we talk purely clean syringes? Obviously taking the same compound like snorting / injecting heroin
 
Chados said:
Isn't the IV actually safer but considered more trashy just like steroids? Dirty needles is common with drug addicts but if we talk purely clean syringes? Obviously taking the same compound like snorting / injecting heroin
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Yeah im pretty sure iv is safer. Also easier to OD too though so i mean either way its no good lol
 
Chados said:
Haha got you. Yeah when it comes to drugs needles really freaks me out.
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Yeah me too thats why ive mainly steered clear of them for the most part. I seen how bad my brother was hooked on it and didnt want that even though i was hooked pretty bad myself too
 
Wow, this took a turn. I used to drink alot of bud light...but never shot it...lol. In the hospital, I got 3mgs? of dilauted IV ( dont know how to spell it) I was in heaven..very nice. Glad I dont have access to it
 
Might be time for a Motley Crue speedball. 1 ml ever clear, bump of coke, 100 mg tren a, 100 mg test base. Have a nice workout!
 
Today was supposed to be my off day...but I got the itch and went in. Did some high volume stuff, an hour of cardio and abs. Problem is that my girl has been making Christmas cookies for like a week...I must have a 1000 different types of cookies in the house. Fellas, my will power is just not that strong. Everytime I get the urge..I try to eat a hunk of chicken instead..this works about half the time. Im probably eating 10 cookies a day...lol..oh well got a big ass smile on my face and powdered sugar on my shirt. They are great with whole milk too....sigh
 
Oh..decided on 20mgs of Superdrol preworkout. Havent ran that since it was mdrol 10 years ago. Hopefully the Tren combats the lethargy.
 
swimfan65 said:
Today was supposed to be my off day...but I got the itch and went in. Did some high volume stuff, an hour of cardio and abs. Problem is that my girl has been making Christmas cookies for like a week...I must have a 1000 different types of cookies in the house. Fellas, my will power is just not that strong. Everytime I get the urge..I try to eat a hunk of chicken instead..this works about half the time. Im probably eating 10 cookies a day...lol..oh well got a big ass smile on my face and powdered sugar on my shirt. They are great with whole milk too....sigh
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My wife has been doing the same thing. Kinda glad sometimes I can't smell anymore. So I can just look at them and be like ehhhh,no.
 
Not much to report. Today was a rest day. I ate chicken rice and beans 4 times today and just had a bowl of oats. Tomorrow is back shoulders and legs. Ive been hitting legs every other day. Legs are my weakest..as they are for most tall guys. Im curious how military press is gonna go since Ive been cutting. I hate getting weaker, but its something I have to do...I cant be walking around at 300 plus at 45...your heart dont know it's muscle..weight is weight. I figure I have 20 or 30 lbs of fat on me..which would mean I could be a pretty lean 280 to 285..I hope. Cardio went better two days ago...hoping to get a solid 30mins after training tomorrow.
 
swimfan65 said:
Not much to report. Today was a rest day. I ate chicken rice and beans 4 times today and just had a bowl of oats. Tomorrow is back shoulders and legs. Ive been hitting legs every other day. Legs are my weakest..as they are for most tall guys. Im curious how military press is gonna go since Ive been cutting. I hate getting weaker, but its something I have to do...I cant be walking around at 300 plus at 45...your heart dont know it's muscle..weight is weight. I figure I have 20 or 30 lbs of fat on me..which would mean I could be a pretty lean 280 to 285..I hope. Cardio went better two days ago...hoping to get a solid 30mins after training tomorrow.
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Your doing good brother. Keep doing what your doing
 
You know, I have never had the urge to use recreational drugs via injection. I prefer to smoke them.
 
Old Witch said:
You know, I have never had the urge to use recreational drugs via injection. I prefer to smoke them.
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Me either. I smoked my share of weed in the day, but thats about it. Now, I may have a few beers and a couple of ativan once a month. I lost alot of my crazy with age.
 
swimfan65 said:
Me either. I smoked my share of weed in the day, but thats about it. Now, I may have a few beers and a couple of ativan once a month. I lost alot of my crazy with age.
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I still smoke my share of weed, and probably your share, and his share, and their share...

Keep up the good work, brother! You’re gonna be a real freak soon. ****... who am I kidding? you’re a real freak already, man. Gonna be even freakier when you’re all shredded up and still over 280.
 
“He used to do a traveling show tearing phone booths in half.”

“Don’t you mean phone books?”

“No.”
 
You have my attention with Tren A. I'm on trt now so I'm slowly learning about all the additional compounds that can be peppered into a blast. Currently just sticking to my dose and seeing how things progress but it sounds like Tren does some great/terrible things.
 
GrizzleB said:
You have my attention with Tren A. I'm on trt now so I'm slowly learning about all the additional compounds that can be peppered into a blast. Currently just sticking to my dose and seeing how things progress but it sounds like Tren does some great/terrible things.
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You should look into dienolone....very similar results but not quite as hardcore as running tren. Lot less sides but if your not competing really should do all you could ever need - in my experience at least
 
GrizzleB said:
You have my attention with Tren A. I'm on trt now so I'm slowly learning about all the additional compounds that can be peppered into a blast. Currently just sticking to my dose and seeing how things progress but it sounds like Tren does some great/terrible things.
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Your first move...if any...would be to up your trt dose to a cycle. Forget about tren for a few years, learn your body, learn how it responds to different compounds...test, deca, dbol, anadrol, winny, etc. Learn how to use these with ancillary drugs for a few years first.
 
bigbeaph said:
You should look into dienolone....very similar results but not quite as hardcore as running tren. Lot less sides but if your not competing really should do all you could ever need - in my experience at least
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I still have an aversion to non competitors using tren. I mean, you know it’s made for livestock animals who are going to be killed soon... just saying health and safety wasn’t the priority when they made that. And thats health and safety compared to other aas not compared to being off. It’s a death wish compared to pretty much anything else you’d want to run except a few. ****ing awful for your heart, liver, and kidneys. And brain.

Basically it’s for competitors and guys who have been on so long their androgen receptors are totally shot. Not even for intermediates or advanced users. It’s for master users and competitors only. In my opinion.
 
swimfan65 said:
Your first move...if any...would be to up your trt dose to a cycle. Forget about tren for a few years, learn your body, learn how it responds to different compounds...test, deca, dbol, anadrol, winny, etc. Learn how to use these with ancillary drugs for a few years first.
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Its funny- when I entered the aas world roughly 15 years ago tren was treated entirely different. It was very highly respected. Didnt seem like a high % of people ran it - and you were told to be careful - warnings all over the place. Now all of a sudden it's become an everybody drug like test. Side effects are often laughed at (I dont understand how, they can be horrible, even debilitating) toxicity is rarely discussed....just funny how the ideas evolve.
 
swimfan65 said:
Your first move...if any...would be to up your trt dose to a cycle. Forget about tren for a few years, learn your body, learn how it responds to different compounds...test, deca, dbol, anadrol, winny, etc. Learn how to use these with ancillary drugs for a few years first.
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That is what I'm doing, test only for at least the first run or 2. I want to see how estrogen is with just that. I haven't had any sides on 100mg/wk so next up is probbably 500/wk for 8-12 then back down for bloodwork. Will try adding in something else once I learn more about each and every one of them.
 
bigbeaph said:
Its funny- when I entered the aas world roughly 15 years ago tren was treated entirely different. It was very highly respected. Didnt seem like a high % of people ran it - and you were told to be careful - warnings all over the place. Now all of a sudden it's become an everybody drug like test. Side effects are often laughed at (I dont understand how, they can be horrible, even debilitating) toxicity is rarely discussed....just funny how the ideas evolve.
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Kinda the point I was making ape. Ive been on for 15 years...and a few years ago, tren handed me my ass. For real, Im baby stepping this time.
 
swimfan65 said:
Kinda the point I was making ape. Ive been on for 15 years...and a few years ago, tren handed me my ass. For real, Im baby stepping this time.
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You've been on as long as I've been reading about them. Must be why your a hair bigger/stronger than I
 
christ83189 said:
Crazy ive never heard of anyone hitting heroin or speed IM. I mean i could see it because ive known some people who had a really hard time finding a vein that wasnt collapsed. Ive never been that bad. Needles werent my thing back then so idk much about all that. I always smoked or snorted sh1t. Pills were my main thing though. But my brother was all about the IV
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Skin popping heroin is usually the first step after snorting it. You just shoot it subq. Heroin dosnt hurt. Thats why people get abscesses more when they use heroin. You could be missing the vein and not know. Speed hurts and you know right away.
 
Today's workout
Incline bench 135 warm up, 225 ×10, 315 ×10, 365 ×8, 405 ×5, 405 to failure, 365 to failure, 315 to failure, 225 to failure.

Cabel cross overs high, mid, and low. Warm up sets then sets to failure.

Hammer strength press. Heavy sets were 10 plates ( thats all that fits) to failure 5 sets...then back down to failure.

Dumbell flys..10 sets didnt really pay attention to the weight.

Decline bench..same weight and sets as incline.

30 mins of cardio...treadmill..heart rate at 135 to 140.

Abs for 20mins.

Dinner..chicken breast half cup of rice and kidney beans.
 
Back and shoulders. I really dont count reps or sets. Its alot. Tired fasted training...that went over like a brick...not doing that again. Also trensomnia has me pretty agitated..last two nights sucked ass for sleep. Got bored and woke my GF up for a little skins...at least shes cool about it. Starting look very noticeably "on" at the gym..definition, Vascularity, strength, dripping with sweat...pretty crazy. Even got veins popping across my chest...at 312lbs...lol...just nuts. Test is 750 ew, tren at 400 ew. Dosing tren 2 days on one off...so pin 100 M, T...off W...pin T, F...off Sat...etc. Sides are fine...just the sleep issue.
 
swimfan65 said:
Back and shoulders. I really dont count reps or sets. Its alot. Tired fasted training...that went over like a brick...not doing that again. Also trensomnia has me pretty agitated..last two nights sucked ass for sleep. Got bored and woke my GF up for a little skins...at least shes cool about it. Starting look very noticeably "on" at the gym..definition, Vascularity, strength, dripping with sweat...pretty crazy. Even got veins popping across my chest...at 312lbs...lol...just nuts. Test is 750 ew, tren at 400 ew. Dosing tren 2 days on one off...so pin 100 M, T...off W...pin T, F...off Sat...etc. Sides are fine...just the sleep issue.
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Yeah that’s about as good as it gets with tren. I think you might have hit your Goldilocks dose already. Trensomnia and sweats is a good indicator it’s working about as good as it can. Any more and you’d likely be battling paranoia/delusions and rapid extreme mood swings.
 
Old Witch said:
Yeah that’s about as good as it gets with tren. I think you might have hit your Goldilocks dose already. Trensomnia and sweats is a good indicator it’s working about as good as it can. Any more and you’d likely be battling paranoia/delusions and rapid extreme mood swings.
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Yeah..thats what happened last time...sweating, paranoia, delusional ( bad...i got into a screaming match with a chair that had a coat on it at 3am because i thought it was a person who had broke into my house)..I think 400 of tren A is for sure my sweet spot. I love how you can watch your body change day by day. My appetite is through the roof though...on my last run, my appetite got crushed. Making it hard to cut this time...however, I am noticeably getting bigger and leaner.
 
swimfan65 said:
Yeah..thats what happened last time...sweating, paranoia, delusional ( bad...i got into a screaming match with a chair that had a coat on it at 3am because i thought it was a person who had broke into my house)..I think 400 of tren A is for sure my sweet spot. I love how you can watch your body change day by day. My appetite is through the roof though...on my last run, my appetite got crushed. Making it hard to cut this time...however, I am noticeably getting bigger and leaner.
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Swim you’re killing me with all this tren talk. Makes me want to try it then I hear stories like yelling at chairs and I think maybe not.
 
At least it wasnt a decapitated neighbor he was yelling at....a chair isnt so bad
 
swimfan65 said:
Yeah..thats what happened last time...sweating, paranoia, delusional ( bad...i got into a screaming match with a chair that had a coat on it at 3am because i thought it was a person who had broke into my house)..I think 400 of tren A is for sure my sweet spot. I love how you can watch your body change day by day. My appetite is through the roof though...on my last run, my appetite got crushed. Making it hard to cut this time...however, I am noticeably getting bigger and leaner.
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Imagine the chair wouldn't have had a coat on it. It would mean, the chair was naked. Instead of yelling at the chair, he would have gotten sexually assaulted instead, LOL.
 
swimfan65 said:
Yeah..thats what happened last time...sweating, paranoia, delusional ( bad...i got into a screaming match with a chair that had a coat on it at 3am because i thought it was a person who had broke into my house)..I think 400 of tren A is for sure my sweet spot. I love how you can watch your body change day by day. My appetite is through the roof though...on my last run, my appetite got crushed. Making it hard to cut this time...however, I am noticeably getting bigger and leaner.
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I always said 400 is the absolute max anyone should go with treb to avoid sides. 400 is too much for probably 50% of the population but at least you have 50% chance of making it.. I'm sure the chair gave you a reason buddy haha
 
Chados said:
I always said 400 is the absolute max anyone should go with treb to avoid sides. 400 is too much for probably 50% of the population but at least you have 50% chance of making it.. I'm sure the chair gave you a reason buddy haha
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When I here about dudes running over a gram..like 1500 a week..either it's super under dosed or...hell I dont know. I cant even imagine. To me thats like someone saying..I run 500 of Anadrol ed. I honestly think 1500 of Tren would kill me...I would just explode in a shaking mess of sweat, paranoia, delusion and libido.
 
swimfan65 said:
When I here about dudes running over a gram..like 1500 a week..either it's super under dosed or...hell I dont know. I cant even imagine. To me thats like someone saying..I run 500 of Anadrol ed. I honestly think 1500 of Tren would kill me...I would just explode in a shaking mess of sweat, paranoia, delusion and libido.
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People run 1500mg?? That's absolutely crazy. Must have night sweats during daytime at that dosage.
 
Chados said:
People run 1500mg?? That's absolutely crazy. Must have night sweats during daytime at that dosage.
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I remember hearing about a guy that took a good dose (700/wk) of tren....which is half what your talking about....but he stayed on it for 8 months supposedly. Lmao - I think everyone in the grocery store would turn into a large pile of bodies by the time I finished that off
 
bigbeaph said:
I remember hearing about a guy that took a good dose (700/wk) of tren....which is half what your talking about....but he stayed on it for 8 months supposedly. Lmao - I think everyone in the grocery store would turn into a large pile of bodies by the time I finished that off
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Yep...600 ew of tren e kicked my ass...only made it like 3 weeks I think
 
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