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Swell, abyss, blast

prld2gr8ns said:
Great to hear your liking the products man. It's important to remember that Swell is 2scoops for a serving(roughly 9gr) whereas Poseidon is only 1scoop(5grs), really helps you when doing the math.:thumbsup:

Keep us posted on what SWELL does for you.
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wait, that confuses me. Swell has 9g total, but one serving of swell has only 3.1g of poseidon complex... so 2 servings a day of swell would yield a little more than 6g poseidon complex right?
 
Yeah you got it right. This is a little dissapointing, since originally I thought swell was just going to be poseidon plus beta alanine. Remember all the hype about poseidon-ba? So now I'm stuck buying two products. Ill prob post in my thread to see if I've noticed enough difference taking both as aside to just poseidon. I'm pulling for great results from Swell though...

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sublimejeh said:
wait, that confuses me. Swell has 9g total, but one serving of swell has only 3.1g of poseidon complex... so 2 servings a day of swell would yield a little more than 6g poseidon complex right?
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Thats right sublimejeh. The amount of Poseidon Complex in SWELL is VERY synergistic with all it's other components, working as the catalyst to SWELL's effectiveness. It is not, however, a complete replacement for Poseidon unless your mega dosing...which gets pricey.

Workin
 
theJmad said:
Yeah you got it right. This is a little dissapointing, since originally I thought swell was just going to be poseidon plus beta alanine. Remember all the hype about poseidon-ba? So now I'm stuck buying two products. Ill prob post in my thread to see if I've noticed enough difference taking both as aside to just poseidon. I'm pulling for great results from Swell though...

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Swell is much more than Poseidon with BA. I think your going to be very happy with your results...I'm looking forward to your thread! :thumbsup:

Workin
 
Instead of megadosing I may just buy the swell/blast/poseidon and get some bulk CM and BA with come creatine... could be the ultimate stack here :D
 
sublimejeh said:
Instead of megadosing I may just buy the swell/blast/poseidon and get some bulk CM and BA with come creatine... could be the ultimate stack here :D
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If your taking Poseidon, there's no need to mega dose SWELL.

Rather than buying bulk CM or BA, I would take one more serving of SWELL per day ...cheaper and more effective IMHO. The creatine would be a good addition if your not cutting.

I'd also recommend taking SWELL on it's own for at least a week. You'll be amazed at how well it does all by itself! ;)

Whatever you decide, keep us posted! :thumbsup:

Workin
 
workin2005 said:
If your taking Poseidon, there's no need to mega dose SWELL.

Rather than buying bulk CM or BA, I would take one more serving of SWELL per day ...cheaper and more effective IMHO. The creatine would be a good addition if your not cutting.

I'd also recommend taking SWELL on it's own for at least a week. You'll be amazed at how well it does all by itself! ;)

Whatever you decide, keep us posted! :thumbsup:

Workin
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Ok cool! I've been using it for 4 days now and I love it :D I've been taking 2-3 servings per day...

So, the one thing that is keeping me from using extra Swell and not getting the bulk CM and BA is not knowing the exact dose of each in each serving of swell. I know itsm a propriety mix, but is there any chance you would reveal the mgs of CM and BA per serving (2 scoops) in swell so I could accurately judge how much of those 2 compounds I would be getting per day?
 
sublimejeh said:
Ok cool! I've been using it for 4 days now and I love it :D I've been taking 2-3 servings per day...

So, the one thing that is keeping me from using extra Swell and not getting the bulk CM and BA is not knowing the exact dose of each in each serving of swell. I know itsm a propriety mix, but is there any chance you would reveal the mgs of CM and BA per serving (2 scoops) in swell so I could accurately judge how much of those 2 compounds I would be getting per day?
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Using 2 servings of SWELL perday, would povide 3.6 grams of BA and around 2 grams of CM....Shhh! Don't tell anyone! ;)

Workin
 
workin2005 said:
Using 2 servings of SWELL perday, would povide 3.6 grams of BA and around 2 grams of CM....Shhh! Don't tell anyone! ;)

Workin
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Cool. Maybe I'll just dose Poseidon at 30g per day, 3 servings of swell per day and one or two servings of blast.. i like those numbers :D
 
sublimejeh said:
Cool. Maybe I'll just dose Poseidon at 30g per day, 3 servings of swell per day and one or two servings of blast.. i like those numbers :D
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That'll get you primed no doubt.

Sorry for the confusion too sublime, but yeah you got the math right:thumbsup:.
 
workin2005 said:
I think you mean substitute SWELL for Poseidon? Correct?

If so, the answer is money. We recommend taking 15-30 grams of Poseidon Complex per day. You would need to take 5-10 servings of SWELL to get that....VERY EXPENSIVE and unnecessary.

Taking 2 servings of SWELL and 2 servings of Poseidon daily is much more cost effective. Finances aside though...you could take only SWELL, at a VERY high amount, and get all the benefits of Poseidon as it does contain Poseidon Complex.

Does that answer your question?

Workin
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So taking 2 servings of SWELL and 2 servings of Poseidon daily, what would be ideal time on workout days and nonworkout days?
 
I take 1 serving of swell upon waking, and one 30mins preworkout. I spread the poseidon out during the day and at night
 
Cordeen said:
So taking 2 servings of SWELL and 2 servings of Poseidon daily, what would be ideal time on workout days and nonworkout days?
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If you workout in the morning, take 1 serving of SWELL 10 minutes prior and sip on 1 serving of Poseidon during your workout. I would then take 1 serving of SWELL, between meals, 5 or more hours later and 1 serving of Poseidon 1 hour before bed.

If working out in the afternoon, just like Sublime suggested, take one serving of SWELL first thing in the morning and one just prior to your workout. Take 1 serving of Poseidon, sipped on during your workout, and another serving 1 hour before bed. If your working out in the evening, you may want to take your first serving of Poseidon around noon, and then the second during your workout...skipping the before bed dose.

On non-workout days, 1 serving of SWELL first thing in the morning and one 5-8 hours later. Take 1 serving of Poseidon around noon and another 1 hour before bed.

These are simply recommendations and not an exact science. Everyone's schedules and activity levels are different and should be taken into account.

Hope this helps! ;)

Workin
 
workin2005 said:
Thats right sublimejeh. The amount of Poseidon Complex in SWELL is VERY synergistic with all it's other components, working as the catalyst to SWELL's effectiveness. It is not, however, a complete replacement for Poseidon unless your mega dosing...which gets pricey.

Workin
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I have been megadosing Poseidon for some time now... Usually I do 2 scoops in the morning, 2 scoops whenever I can in the afternoon, 2 scoops preworkout, 2 scoops during, 2 scoops after (6 scoops in a big propel bottle), and 3 scoops before bed. On off days I'll subtract maybe 2-4 scoops, but I still get a lot. My skin looks like a baby's and my shaving his been much closer... Weird that I didn't expect the closer, bump free shaves due to a lack of hydration of the facial epidermis.
 
Force of Green said:
I have been megadosing Poseidon for some time now... Usually I do 2 scoops in the morning, 2 scoops whenever I can in the afternoon, 2 scoops preworkout, 2 scoops during, 2 scoops after (6 scoops in a big propel bottle), and 3 scoops before bed. On off days I'll subtract maybe 2-4 scoops, but I still get a lot. My skin looks like a baby's and my shaving his been much closer... Weird that I didn't expect the closer, bump free shaves due to a lack of hydration of the facial epidermis.
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Wow, that's a lot of Poseidon FOG. I bet you get a good flush at least once a day using that protocol.
 
Force of Green said:
I have been megadosing Poseidon for some time now... Usually I do 2 scoops in the morning, 2 scoops whenever I can in the afternoon, 2 scoops preworkout, 2 scoops during, 2 scoops after (6 scoops in a big propel bottle), and 3 scoops before bed. On off days I'll subtract maybe 2-4 scoops, but I still get a lot. My skin looks like a baby's and my shaving his been much closer... Weird that I didn't expect the closer, bump free shaves due to a lack of hydration of the facial epidermis.
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Bump free shaves....:think: We may have to add that to the write-up! ;)

Workin
 
Force of Green said:
You don't think it's too much do you?
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No, it's fine. I only commented because I haven't dosed it that high, roughly 8-9servs/day(equal to your off days) has been my max. You may be able to see the same benefits at a similiar dose if you try it out for a while(after all there is only so much hydration a body can do:D).
 
prld2gr8ns said:
No, it's fine. I only commented because I haven't dosed it that high, roughly 8-9servs/day(equal to your off days) has been my max. You may be able to see the same benefits at a similiar dose if you try it out for a while(after all there is only so much hydration a body can do:D).
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Cool, thanks for your good advice. I was dosing a ton of it when I was super-active. I'd be taking one martial arts class in the morning, train 3 clients, train myself, then do 30-45 minutes of pilates! I'd be pretty much drained.
 
Force of Green said:
Cool, thanks for your good advice. I was dosing a ton of it when I was super-active. I'd be taking one martial arts class in the morning, train 3 clients, train myself, then do 30-45 minutes of pilates! I'd be pretty much drained.
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That's a very active schedule you had there man. Just reading it made me feel drained:D. Try the new dosage out and see if it doesn't suffice... and get back to me about the shaving bumps.
 
Swell has been well...Swell ( no pun intended ) been doing workins protocol for me, 3 scoops bef/aft. However my face has been breaking out horribly. My guess its the aakg.
 
ryanp81 said:
Swell has been well...Swell ( no pun intended ) been doing workins protocol for me, 3 scoops bef/aft. However my face has been breaking out horribly. My guess its the aakg.
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Your face has been breaking out? SWELL should do exactly the opposite and clear your skin up due to the Poseidon Complex in it. My guess is that the Poseidon Complex in SWELL is causing your body to detox...that could lead to initial breakouts followed by a much smoother, clear complexion once your done detoxing.

I'm glad your pleased with the results otherwise ryan...keep us posted! ;)

Workin
 
workin2005 said:
Your face has been breaking out? SWELL should do exactly the opposite and clear your skin up due to the Poseidon Complex in it. My guess is that the Poseidon Complex in SWELL is causing your body to detox...that could lead to initial breakouts followed by a much smoother, clear complexion once your done detoxing.

I'm glad your pleased with the results otherwise ryan...keep us posted! ;)

Workin
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I just started taking Swell, and I've been on poseidon for about a month, so the initial detox should be long gone by now. I'm not running anything else that makes my skin break out, so I will update everybody on my skin status while on Swell.
I've been taking swell for two days now and haven't noticed anything negative.
 
theJmad said:
I just started taking Swell, and I've been on poseidon for about a month, so the initial detox should be long gone by now. I'm not running anything else that makes my skin break out, so I will update everybody on my skin status while on Swell.
I've been taking swell for two days now and haven't noticed anything negative.
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Well that shoots my theory. lol! :frustrate

Looking forward to your update ryan!

Workin
 
ryanp81 said:
Swell has been well...Swell ( no pun intended ) been doing workins protocol for me, 3 scoops bef/aft. However my face has been breaking out horribly. My guess its the aakg.
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The only way that you could be breaking out IMO is that when the Poseidon complex is purging toxins from your pores, you're not washing your face and the chemicals that were purged were not removed and they're irritating your skin and/or finding their way back into the dermis. To solve this, use luke warm water and a natural, non-abrasive facial wash (organic brands are cheap, usually around 8 dollars for a couple month supply) and wash the face a few times a day. This is the final elimination step in a detox.

Not doing this would kinda be like detoxing yourself, peeing into a cup, then drinking your own urine.
 
since i don't have any poseidon left Ive been using 3-4 servings of swell per day... stuff kicks *ss!!
 
sublimejeh said:
since i don't have any poseidon left Ive been using 3-4 servings of swell per day... stuff kicks *ss!!
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3-4 Servings? That's a lot of BA and AAKG isn't it? It won't hurt... but... I know there's a limit of BA to carnosine synthesis... but the AAKG might have you blown up to the point of immobility. lol

BTW, I love your Retain 2 product. Adding Relora into a cortisol control matrix is brilliant.
 
Force of Green said:
3-4 Servings? That's a lot of BA and AAKG isn't it? It won't hurt... but... I know there's a limit of BA to carnosine synthesis... but the AAKG might have you blown up to the point of immobility. lol

BTW, I love your Retain 2 product. Adding Relora into a cortisol control matrix is brilliant.
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Ya retain 2 is probably one of my favorites we carry.


Workin said the ration was like 2:1.6 BA-CM... 3-4 servings spread throughout the day would be a total of about 6-8g BA and 4.5-6g CM... those are reasonable numbers IMO... most studies with BA use 6g anyways, and I've always liked CM dosed around 6g too

EDIT: and also, the AAKG is dosed last on the list, so i feel like its less than 1g per serving, so that would be 3-4g/day... not bad!
 
sublimejeh said:
Ya retain 2 is probably one of my favorites we carry.


Workin said the ration was like 2:1.6 BA-CM... 3-4 servings spread throughout the day would be a total of about 6-8g BA and 4.5-6g CM... those are reasonable numbers IMO... most studies with BA use 6g anyways, and I've always liked CM dosed around 6g too

EDIT: and also, the AAKG is dosed last on the list, so i feel like its less than 1g per serving, so that would be 3-4g/day... not bad!
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Oh, good call. For some reason I thought I read that each serving had 3 grams of AAKG... Which at 2 servings would've been that of the mid-dose of an NO2 (AAKG based) product... But, yeah that's not bad at all.
 
Force of Green said:
Oh, good call. For some reason I thought I read that each serving had 3 grams of AAKG... Which at 2 servings would've been that of the mid-dose of an NO2 (AAKG based) product... But, yeah that's not bad at all.
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That was probably the 3 grams of Leucine you where confusing it with FOG.:thumbsup:
 
prld2gr8ns said:
That was probably the 3 grams of Leucine you where confusing it with FOG.:thumbsup:
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Damn, that's awesome. The AAKG was swaying me from buying it almost, but my proportions were misunderstood on my behalf! I don't like the N02 products much anymore, as I'm no longer interested in showing off a dysfunctional, disproportionate, muscular 'balloon effect'. lol. I find Leucine and BA to be more than functional and a little bit of AAKG is good for a little less blood pressure during the workout. I would imagine this would be good for a further increase in cardiac output (including but not limited to V02 max) and the CM, although dubbed by some as an NO potentiator, works through different pathways and gives great endurance. Can't wait to order some Swell!
 
Force of Green said:
Damn, that's awesome. The AAKG was swaying me from buying it almost, but my proportions were misunderstood on my behalf! I don't like the N02 products much anymore, as I'm no longer interested in showing off a dysfunctional, disproportionate, muscular 'balloon effect'. lol. I find Leucine and BA to be more than functional and a little bit of AAKG is good for a little less blood pressure during the workout. I would imagine this would be good for a further increase in cardiac output (including but not limited to V02 max) and the CM, although dubbed by some as an NO potentiator, works through different pathways and gives great endurance. Can't wait to order some Swell!
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SWELL is phenomenal...I cant wait for you to try it! :)

Workin
 
Nimbus Nutrition takes vitamins, minerals, and amino acids that have been proven to work, puts them in a perfect ratio and lists it for a more than reasonable price. Hence, the product sells itself. I'll always back this company.
 
Force of Green said:
Nimbus Nutrition takes vitamins, minerals, and amino acids that have been proven to work, puts them in a perfect ratio and lists it for a more than reasonable price. Hence, the product sells itself. I'll always back this company.
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Thanks FOG. Good to have your support my friend.
 
Force of Green said:
Nimbus Nutrition takes vitamins, minerals, and amino acids that have been proven to work, puts them in a perfect ratio and lists it for a more than reasonable price. Hence, the product sells itself. I'll always back this company.
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Your support is greatly appriciated FOG...Thank you! :)

Workin
 
Now I need to get a T!!!

...And my Swell should come in this week, I just can't wait to use this baby!
 
jjohn said:
Now I need to get a T!!!

...And my Swell should come in this week, I just can't wait to use this baby!
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I can't wait to get your feedback! When the T's come out...you'll be one of the first to get one Jjohn! After prld2gr8ns of course! :thumbsup:

Workin
 
You guys did a great job with Swell, Workin!

I bought a bottle last week and started using it with body octane/Cordygen5 the other day...
 
lbarber said:
You guys did a great job with Swell, Workin!

I bought a bottle last week and started using it with body octane/Cordygen5 the other day...
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Great to hear lbarber, thanks for the support buddy. That stack looks like it'd be a good one.:thumbsup:
 
Would a multi interfere with the effects of these products considering research has been done and they've been dosed and tweeked specifically to work synergistically?

Or would there be a preferred time of day to take a mutli?

I will be stacking SWELL and Poseidon.
 
Cordeen said:
Would a multi interfere with the effects of these products considering research has been done and they've been dosed and tweeked specifically to work synergistically?

Or would there be a preferred time of day to take a mutli?

I will be stacking SWELL and Poseidon.
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A multivitamin is perfectly fine to take with our products. I take a multi every day during breakfast myself.No interference what so ever.:D
 
Cordeen said:
Would a multi interfere with the effects of these products considering research has been done and they've been dosed and tweeked specifically to work synergistically?

Or would there be a preferred time of day to take a mutli?

I will be stacking SWELL and Poseidon.
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No problem at all. I would recommend taking your multi with your largest meal of the day.

Keep us posted on your SWELL/POSEIDON stack...I think you'll be pleased! Also, don't forget to take advantage of the free Clumpy Poseidon offer on Nutra Planet if you have not already placed your order. :thumbsup:

Workin
 
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