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Sustanon 300, Tbol, Trenavar cycle log

Hyde said:
Tvar needs at least 6 weeks at over 100mg to shine
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IMO I think that every oral should be run for 5-6 weeks, 4 is just too short. Some will dissagree with me, but I find that that works best, FOR ME. What do you guys think
Winstrol?
Anavar?
DMZ?
MSten?
Max LMG?
Trest?
Something else?
 
Alchemist11 said:
IMO I think that every oral should be run for 5-6 weeks, 4 is just too short. Some will dissagree with me, but I find that that works best, FOR ME. What do you guys think
Winstrol?
Anavar?
DMZ?
MSten?
Max LMG?
Trest?
Something else?
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All orals wont give much more after 4 weeks, are you talking about replacing trenavar? Now why would you do that.. just go with what you have and save money. For anyone to say what's best for you is like asking us if you have high blood pressure. Nobody knows how your body looks and therefore it would be stupid to say that one is better than the other. If you're skinny my personal favorite is winstrol due to the fact that it can add size and make you look fantastic. If you're fat my favorite would be anavar which is one of my least favorites but due to the fact that you're at higher risk for sides with more body fat and also cause it has the ability to burn a bit of fat.


Personal favorites for my body (in order) winstrol-anadrol-nanodrol-superdrol. This is purely for gains and not for health benefits. Also take into account that when I use winstrol I won't run it solo with test, it's a mix of compounds that makes certain compounds shine over others.
 
LardLungs said:
So what do you like to run winstrol with then?
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Anything really cause it works with everything making any cycle cleaner. If I want to have size I go anadrol but my goal has never been to be the biggest man on earth and I feel that I'm happy where I'm at. If we exclude tren cause that is just the best to stack anything with. Primo or mast will be my second compound, mast is a little less gains but a better hardener
 
Chados said:
All orals wont give much more after 4 weeks, are you talking about replacing trenavar? Now why would you do that.. just go with what you have and save money. For anyone to say what's best for you is like asking us if you have high blood pressure. Nobody knows how your body looks and therefore it would be stupid to say that one is better than the other. If you're skinny my personal favorite is winstrol due to the fact that it can add size and make you look fantastic. If you're fat my favorite would be anavar which is one of my least favorites but due to the fact that you're at higher risk for sides with more body fat and also cause it has the ability to burn a bit of fat.


Personal favorites for my body (in order) winstrol-anadrol-nanodrol-superdrol. This is purely for gains and not for health benefits. Also take into account that when I use winstrol I won't run it solo with test, it's a mix of compounds that makes certain compounds shine over others.
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I just keep thinking that Winstrol would be a better choice than Trenavar in terms of muscle building, not so much in cutting terms
 
Alchemist11 said:
I just keep thinking that Winstrol would be a better choice than Trenavar in terms of muscle building, not so much in cutting terms
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No steroid Is a fatburner, winstrol will for sure be stronger per mg in any regard than trenavar. Theoretically tren is a better compound due to nutrient partioning but not even real tren makes you as hard as winstrol. During a weightloss tren will however be better to keep muscles and potentially build. Primo is even better than tren at preventing muscle waste.
 
Chados said:
No steroid Is a fatburner, winstrol will for sure be stronger per mg in any regard than trenavar. Theoretically tren is a better compound due to nutrient partioning but not even real tren makes you as hard as winstrol. During a weightloss tren will however be better to keep muscles and potentially build. Primo is even better than tren at preventing muscle waste.
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Theoreticaly tren is most bang for your buck, overall, but it has its price, and for me, anger would be a problem, per example...
 
Day 17 guys, Legs and arms! It was fun ride today, legs are coming along realy nicely, the pumps are good, but not unbearable, just as they should be to help you bild, a to feel like a demigod! Apetite is up, libido is through the roof, sex drive also, and I can see and feel that everything has kicked in! Vascularity is more prominent now, and cuttin is realy easy (at least for me). I'm realy satisfied how things are going! And have to not, there is verry little to no shrinkage down there
 
Alchemist11 said:
Theoreticaly tren is most bang for your buck, overall, but it has its price, and for me, anger would be a problem, per example...
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Sure.. you might be shocked by the crazy emotions you get. Theres a very good chance you get anxious rather than angry. If you can stay away then do it.
 
Chados said:
Sure.. you might be shocked by the crazy emotions you get. Theres a very good chance you get anxious rather than angry. If you can stay away then do it.
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I know I had a baaaad anxiety atack on test, eq and Anadrol, after taking 2 pills of 50 mg of Anadrol in 2 hours apart
 
Main drawback with eq for me is the duration of cycle... I don't want to push it at 22 years. I did it once, for 18 weeks, and recovery was hard and long.... Even with proper PCT
 
You’re an athlete so screw tren. Stay away from that junk. It’s not a sports performance enhancer, it’ll make your performance worse. Some guys lose their breath when jerking off because of tren.
 
YoungThor said:
You’re an athlete so screw tren. Stay away from that junk. It’s not a sports performance enhancer, it’ll make your performance worse. Some guys lose their breath when jerking off because of tren.
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Yes, that is correct! Some guys say that they combat that tren sides with cardarine, but I find it realy dissapointing...
 
Day 18! Push day, so chest, shoulders and triceps, and short HIIIT... Today was upper chest dominant workout, I like to split it, one push day is upper and the other is middle and lower chest, woorks good for me.
 
Cut-recomp is going realy well bc I can finaly see striations on my chest and front delts, so I'm happy for that. Today was a bit harder to work bc my ear buds stopped working (can't stand house music in gym, instead of my metal play list lol), but I managed to finish it. Mad pump, mad sweating and mad strength! Apetite is also up! Have to note again, if you cut yourself on Tbol, there will be a lot of blood.
 
When your ear buds died, did you cut yourself to make a blood sacrifice to the metal gods for more power?? *headbangs*
 
Day 19-Strength is high up! Recovery is fast, cardio is easy, yet I'm sweating hard! Today's pull day started ****ty, I didn't had that a bit of aggression for training, but I overcomed that. So far, every body part is growing nicely and proportionaly. If I had to say some information about Tbol in a few words it would be that it is all in one, low budget steroid. Tbol gets the job done. You can realy do anything on it, and for now it is my no 1.
Also, have to note, did today straight arm pull overs with high reps 20/15/15/12 and pump was awesome!
 
Chados said:
Good job!, but now budget? Tbol is the most expensive oral I've ever used after var
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Yes, but I find it cheap vs the Anavar... I think it has almost all effects like Tbol just little dryer IMO... I think Anavar is overpriced, to be honest
 
Here, the highest price is on Halotestin, then Anadrol, Anavar, Tbol, Winstrol, and Dbol is cheap as a candy lol...
 
Alchemist11 said:
Here, the highest price is on Halotestin, then Anadrol, Anavar, Tbol, Winstrol, and Dbol is cheap as a candy lol...
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That's very strange but good for you. Anavar is indeed overpriced but it is safer than the others and that has to count.
 
Alchemist11 said:
Day 19-Strength is high up! Recovery is fast, cardio is easy, yet I'm sweating hard! Today's pull day started ****ty, I didn't had that a bit of aggression for training, but I overcomed that. So far, every body part is growing nicely and proportionaly. If I had to say some information about Tbol in a few words it would be that it is all in one, low budget steroid. Tbol gets the job done. You can realy do anything on it, and for now it is my no 1.
Also, have to note, did today straight arm pull overs with high reps 20/15/15/12 and pump was awesome!
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My number one too
 
YoungThor said:
I might run tbol solo one day. It’s sounds awesome and I imagine it would still be good without test.
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Well, my first cycle was Dbol only at 30 mg for 28 days, and I it did all the functions of test, high libido, sex drive, aggression, recovery, everything... It's been said that 10 mg of goog Dbol is daily dose of natural test production, and Tbol being his brother, I thing it would be good to go solo
 
A lot of people faill to realise that PH, sterodis, peptides or any kind of PED's won't do jobs for them. They thins this and that is cutting magic, this and that is for mass... The only thing PED's are for is to give you the edge, aggression, a bit of will and save you from overtraining or burning out... Everything else is from and depends on you and your training
 
Alchemist11 said:
Well, my first cycle was Dbol only at 30 mg for 28 days, and I it did all the functions of test, high libido, sex drive, aggression, recovery, everything... It's been said that 10 mg of goog Dbol is daily dose of natural test production, and Tbol being his brother, I thing it would be good to go solo
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I see tbol being far closer to var than dbol, I have no idea why people call them brothers. Dbol is a massive bloater
 
So you're deep into it and loving the cycle. Don't get me wrong I love Sust but don't you want to extend your cycle now that Sust is running full steam? I have always ran Sust as 20+ week and finished with a small amount of Test P not that you have to cuz for me it seems to me whenever I run a decent MG of decanate XXXX it builds up over time and by week 8 you have a build up of ester-bound decanate. but I still add a bit of Prop. I'm just wondering why you are cutting the cycle short of optimum gains?
 
FRITZBLITZZ said:
So you're deep into it and loving the cycle. Don't get me wrong I love Sust but don't you want to extend your cycle now that Sust is running full steam? I have always ran Sust as 20+ week and finished with a small amount of Test P not that you have to cuz for me it seems to me whenever I run a decent MG of decanate XXXX it builds up over time and by week 8 you have a build up of ester-bound decanate. but I still add a bit of Prop. I'm just wondering why you are cutting the cycle short of optimum gains?
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Well, my last cycle was 18 weeks, so I just wanted to take it easy this time. Especialy with recovery later on. I see your point, and its a good one, but I just decided to do shorter
 
Alchemist11 said:
Well, my last cycle was 18 weeks, so I just wanted to take it easy this time. Especialy with recovery later on. I see your point, and its a good one, but I just decided to do shorter
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Fair enough. I'm glad it's going good for you. On a side note you mentioned how much Tbol is for you could you PM me that number please? It may be roughly the same but you may have the sweat T connect
 
Hyde said:
Based on how I felt, I would certainly believe if that were the case. I was crushing carbs and calories double what I could normally eat almost and barely gaining lbs. My upper body just kept getting more swoll and every week every lift was rising and every week I was more and more winded. Hematocrit probably was awful.
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Sounds like tren to me!!
 
Chados said:
Nah it's just the name of them. Dbol is a bloater tbol is not, anavar produce similar gains just less than tbol.
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They’re often called brothers because they’re almost identical in terms of chemical structure. Tbol has one minor difference in its structure but that one difference is responsible for it not aromitizing like dbol. Tbol is basically a more refined version of dbol.
 
YoungThor said:
They’re often called brothers because they’re almost identical in terms of chemical structure. Tbol has one minor difference in its structure but that one difference is responsible for it not aromitizing like dbol. Tbol is basically a more refined version of dbol.
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Yes but every steroid has its own chemical structure and many are very close. Tbol has much more anavar like gains than dbol.

Dbol is also much stronger than both these together and for strenght I'm not sure anything beats it. The gains are not very maintainable that's the bad part. It is possible to get quite a lot out of it by keeping the dosage low and you won't experience much bloat.

all this aside, tbol is a great compound just far too pricey when you can get halodrol or epistane. I've seen some people getting it very cheap but I pay a ton for it cause I live in western Europe nowadays and I don't wanna order it from another country.
 
Chados said:
Yes but every steroid has its own chemical structure and many are very close. Tbol has much more anavar like gains than dbol.

Dbol is also much stronger than both these together and for strenght I'm not sure anything beats it. The gains are not very maintainable that's the bad part. It is possible to get quite a lot out of it by keeping the dosage low and you won't experience much bloat.

all this aside, tbol is a great compound just far too pricey when you can get halodrol or epistane. I've seen some people getting it very cheap but I pay a ton for it cause I live in western Europe nowadays and I don't wanna order it from another country.
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Yea it’s definitely pricey. It cost me $70 for 100 tabs that were 10mg each. Var would’ve only cost me $25 more for the same amount.
 
Chados said:
I pay 102 USD for the same and var 159. Now that's ridiculous isn't it?
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I'm just curious why don't you guys go with Halo or Phera instead of Tbol? I don't even pay that much and the price has kept me from trying Tbol when there are so many other options for half the price.
 
FRITZBLITZZ said:
I'm just curious why don't you guys go with Halo or Phera instead of Tbol? I don't even pay that much and the price has kept me from trying Tbol when there are so many other options for half the price.
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I agree and I just talked about halo being a replacement. I don't use either though, winstrol, sd, nanodrol and anadrol all the way but I honestly don't use orals much at all nowadays. Thing with these is that they deliver even at low dosage and sd has actually about the same androgenic ratio as var. I'm not sure where nano stands but I haven't heard about any androgenic sides. Even women run sd instead of var cause of this.
 
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