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Sustanon 300, Tbol, Trenavar cycle log

Day 11. Legs are so sore from yesterday, but it feels damn good! Today was push day, so mostly upper chest, shoulders and triceps. Shoulders are round and full, it only took one set and boom! Triceps was to pumped and full of blood that I barely could do last few reps. So far, I think this is one of the better combos for recomp especialy. Strength is also up and rest time between sets is cut in half.
 
Pretty shady looking site. Have you ran tren before? Any tren like sides or vascularity appearing?

It does look like that, but they are legit. As I said, my friend tried it, and I was amazed with his results. And yes, vascularity and muscle hardness was realy good
 
Nobody knows; it’s all broscience getting passed around. Is it 20? Is it 40%? The answer is it doesn’t matter - what matters to you and me is the more you take, the more it works and the higher the sides!

I hear you and I know every compound works diff on diff ppl. I'm not trying to argue but I actually remember reading a article where rats or some animals were given Trenavar and I wish I EVERNOTED it but the article, if my memory is right had the conversion at just under 35% so I rounded up to make it easier to remember.
 
It may even have a cumulative effect where the more you take, the more your body produces the enzymes that convert it into Trenbolone. I know that there are a few compounds where you have a minimum dose mainly because your body will just metabolize and break down a small amount. Where if you flood your system with a certain amount your body will instead produce the enzymes for conversion because it can't break down the large quantity
 
I hear you and I know every compound works diff on diff ppl. I'm not trying to argue but I actually remember reading a article where rats or some animals were given Trenavar and I wish I EVERNOTED it but the article, if my memory is right had the conversion at just under 35% so I rounded up to make it easier to remember.

Based on how I felt, I would certainly believe if that were the case. I was crushing carbs and calories double what I could normally eat almost and barely gaining lbs. My upper body just kept getting more swoll and every week every lift was rising and every week I was more and more winded. Hematocrit probably was awful.
 
I hear you and I know every compound works diff on diff ppl. I'm not trying to argue but I actually remember reading a article where rats or some animals were given Trenavar and I wish I EVERNOTED it but the article, if my memory is right had the conversion at just under 35% so I rounded up to make it easier to remember.

I think I read that study and as I recal, they noted that the conversion rate is higher in humans than in rats
 
Day 12, pull day, back, biceps and abs. Today was rather short but intense workout. I did my favourite bb deadlifts, and there was a guy who wanted to record me doing them for new video teaser for gym so that was good motivation to push harder. Pumps are getting better and better, mood also, and so does libido. Apetite is rising. Things are going well for now.
 
I have to note one thing. I read about that, but didn't expect that to happen. On Turinabol, your blood is getting thinner. The pumps are different from other orals bc of that. Coagulation of blood on Tbol is also slower. I was doing in my garden and I cut my self, there was way too much blood, and on other places where I scrached my skin, the result was same, so keep that on mind guys.
 
I think I read that study and as I recal, they noted that the conversion rate is higher in humans than in rats

But does it have anabolic activity on its' own (without being converted to tren)
 
Highly doubt there's been a study on humans with trenavar, I don't even think tren has a serious study

My bad, not study, but I think that the great Patrick Arnold said that he thinks that it would be higher convertion rate in humans, bc there was some other compounds that were also low in rats, and higher in humans.. But thats just a thesis
 
I have to note one thing. I read about that, but didn't expect that to happen. On Turinabol, your blood is getting thinner. The pumps are different from other orals bc of that. Coagulation of blood on Tbol is also slower. I was doing in my garden and I cut my self, there was way too much blood, and on other places where I scrached my skin, the result was same, so keep that on mind guys.

Don’t worry, that Tvar will have it thickened back up for sure!
 
My bad, not study, but I think that the great Patrick Arnold said that he thinks that it would be higher convertion rate in humans, bc there was some other compounds that were also low in rats, and higher in humans.. But thats just a thesis

Could be.. anyways i tend to think even if this conversion is true which almost always is marketing it would probably be just as harmful and more expensive then real tren per mg. Tren is such a messed up compound, only thing I've ever felt really uncomfortable with so I wouldn't dare dosing an unknown (tren) compound that high anyways.
 
Could be.. anyways i tend to think even if this conversion is true which almost always is marketing it would probably be just as harmful and more expensive then real tren per mg. Tren is such a messed up compound, only thing I've ever felt really uncomfortable with so I wouldn't dare dosing an unknown (tren) compound that high anyways.

You have a point... 105 mg will be this time, so we'll see how it will act
 
Could be.. anyways i tend to think even if this conversion is true which almost always is marketing it would probably be just as harmful and more expensive then real tren per mg. Tren is such a messed up compound, only thing I've ever felt really uncomfortable with so I wouldn't dare dosing an unknown (tren) compound that high anyways.

Like any other steroid you’ve ever taken, you just start with a bit and go up as you’re comfortable...you’re acting like it’s something like insulin where if you take too much suddenly you might die lol
 
Like any other steroid you’ve ever taken, you just start with a bit and go up as you’re comfortable...you’re acting like it’s something like insulin where if you take too much suddenly you might die lol

No I'm saying that if I want tren like gains which I run at 3-400 id rather use that then taking an oral that probably has no real study behind it at a dosage maybe 10 times the recommended.
 
No I'm saying that if I want tren like gains which I run at 3-400 id rather use that then taking an oral that probably has no real study behind it at a dosage maybe 10 times the recommended.

There is no recommended dosage, other than what bros find to work. Ostarine was getting sold in 2mg caps by supp shops before everyone figured out they wanted 20-30mg/day, so then they started packaging larger doses.

Nobody asked you to take it. This is what OP is taking. But you don’t have any experience with this compound so quit sh!tting on it. Let the guy enjoy his gains.
 
There is no recommended dosage, other than what bros find to work. Ostarine was getting sold in 2mg caps by supp shops before everyone figured out they wanted 20-30mg/day, so then they started packaging larger doses.

Nobody asked you to take it. This is what OP is taking. But you don’t have any experience with this compound so quit sh!tting on it. Let the guy enjoy his gains.

I'm neither telling him what to do or that the compound sucks. And yes I have used 3 bottles of trenavar. We're only having a conversation here and if he wants to run it at 500mg I'm not gonna stop him, at best id try talk him out of it to not hurt himself. Every steroid is said to be used low because 1. There are no studies or guinea pigs behind it and/or 2. The company will try it's best to not get sued by killing someone.
 
It's fine guys. You are both here to help, and we apreciate it. All your points are valid reasonable. Every compound has it's dark side, the main goal is to use it as long as the beneffits are bigger than bad sides, reasonable dossages and duration. We are here to help and educate, not to argue.
 
Day 13. Legs and arm supersets, I have to say, strength is finaly here. I know that test or any other compound is kicked in when my quads get visibly vascular as fu*k, just from walking or even when I'm just resting after little carbs... Today was hamstring dominant workout, the pump was realy good. Also, I feel like my arms (my weak point) are growing realy fast. Stay tuned for more, If you have any questions, I'm here to reply
 
I think that for good, quality Tbol, sweet spot is 50-60 mg, anything over that is just now going to give any more results than that. Tbol realy is good and very clean compound. If you can find one, good one, properly dosed, try it. Cardio on Tbol is magic, rest periods are shorter and endurance is awesome. In May, I have international tournament in vollleyball, so I'll put Tbol to the test for what it's been maid in first place
 
Just to say a bit for yesterdays short workout... I wanted just to do cardio, but beeing myself, I did shoulders first. Pump was fire, and my shoulders seem to like it. The thing is, on Tbol, there is a massive pump, but there is not so much pain with it in the begining. I think that is good thing, bc you can go even further with your workout. Cardio was good, I don't feel as tired as usual, but I sweat like a bull
 
I love Tbol
 
So day 15. Push day, that means in my todays case Chest and triceps. I have to say, for pump, Tbol beats the **** out of Dbol and Anadrol. Todays chest pump was amazing (Me, beeing PW junkie, know how good pump feels like), and my chest, hours later, are still somehow pumped. Intensity is up, and I also did extra few sets. My arms are also happy with pump they get. All in all, Tbol is one hell of a compound to run. My rest periods are shorter and recovery is nice.
 
Rest day guys, it feels good to back off a bit for a day. I have one question, what do you think about Winstrol, Injectable vs oral, and the duration, dossage? Experiences?
 
In general, there is NO difference in injectable vs orally ingested orals. Dosages remain the same, as the liver still has to metabolize all of the compounds.
 
Rest day guys, it feels good to back off a bit for a day. I have one question, what do you think about Winstrol, Injectable vs oral, and the duration, dossage? Experiences?

I think you should chill and Finnish your cycle a little before running more compounds. Winstrol is my favorite oral I think, definitely as a recomp or cut.
 
I think you should chill and Finnish your cycle a little before running more compounds. Winstrol is my favorite oral I think, definitely as a recomp or cut.

Tbol seems awesome as is, so don’t throw winstrol in the mix. To Chados, does winstrol give you joint pain? That information could help with he OP’s decision too.
 
Tbol seems awesome as is, so don’t throw winstrol in the mix. To Chados, does winstrol give you joint pain? That information could help with he OP’s decision too.

In my fingers but goes away after a few weeks. You can take things to prevent it and also not dose it so high ( this at 40mg for me). I think 25 mg goes a long way with winstrol while and then I get no sides.
 
OP, why Sust300 if I may? My friend has been trying to get me on a Sust/Winny stack for quite some time now, but I’ve never budged as I’ve never read enough convincing posts about Sust for my liking.

No some particular reason, I just wanted to give it a try, so far, it's nice
 
I think you should chill and Finnish your cycle a little before running more compounds. Winstrol is my favorite oral I think, definitely as a recomp or cut.

Don't worry, I was just brainstorming for my next cycle, and just wanted to hear something about it
 
So day 15. Push day, that means in my todays case Chest and triceps. I have to say, for pump, Tbol beats the **** out of Dbol and Anadrol. Todays chest pump was amazing (Me, beeing PW junkie, know how good pump feels like), and my chest, hours later, are still somehow pumped. Intensity is up, and I also did extra few sets. My arms are also happy with pump they get. All in all, Tbol is one hell of a compound to run. My rest periods are shorter and recovery is nice.
Tbol better than adrol and dbol???
 
Highly doubt there's been a study on humans with trenavar, I don't even think tren has a serious study
Trenavar is crap.

I'm sorry bros I don't mean to be an ass lol.

Buy yea, you can get 5x better results off even 100mg Tren E is week
 
I hear you and I know every compound works diff on diff ppl. I'm not trying to argue but I actually remember reading a article where rats or some animals were given Trenavar and I wish I EVERNOTED it but the article, if my memory is right had the conversion at just under 35% so I rounded up to make it easier to remember.
It's crap man. Trenavar is a waste. I blew money on that crap.

No gains just lactated this yellow ****.

Real tren has NEVER made me lactate.

IMO not worth it!
 
So here it is guys, lay out of my cycle. If anyone is interested, I'll try to post info daily here. Today is day 1.
Sustanon 300-600 mg per week, 1-10,
Turinabol-50 mg ED, 1-5,6,
Trenavar -105 mg ED 6-10,
I'll run Clomid 50 mg ED or EOD throughout whole cycle,
I god Arimidex on hand, 0,5 or 0,25 EOD.
There is also Fish oil, Liv 55, etc...

Little about my self, I'm 22 years old, Law school graduate. I'm 183 lbs, about 14 % bf at the moment. I have to note that I'm not exclusevly bodybuilder, I'm an athlete (volleyball and beachvolleyball player for 12 years), but I fell in love with Classic bodybuilding look from golden era. My main goal from this cycle is not to cut or bulk, it's pure performance and to gain lean mass alongside. Hope you'll find this thread helpfull
What are you running the Sus at?

I personally LOVE sus. I'm on a strong blend of sus 350... Kicks arse!

Your running trenavar for 4 weeks?
 
Hey man, no pain no gain! How's your injection procedure? A nice smooth constant inject? Your not just shooting it in right?

I don't get the whole PIP thing...

It depends, sometimes it hurts, sometimes it doesn't. I get it only when I'm in hurry. Yes, I try to be steady with my hands and slowly inject it
 
Soooo, day 16! Pull day, that means back, biceps (mostly brachialis), and a bit of abs! No need to talk anymore about how good is the pump! Strength is rising and recovery is fairly quick! My arms (my lagging point), are comming along nicely! Cutting down is going realy easy and smooth! I fell in love with this combo, to be honest! Every workout is fun, and deadlifts feel orgasmic! Lol
 
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