I am taking this quote from another thread you made.
Current situation: age twenty five
Height five nine
Weighing at one eighty two
Suggestions help please looking to cut then bulk real supplements that actually works long way to go have tried all kinds of supplements nothing really worked as expected been of went cold turkey for about 2 months now looking for something that actually works before i hit the stores again
First, we need to know your bodyfat, experience, current macros, etc.
Regarding supplements, the last portion of your post makes me believe your expectations for natural supplements are too high. You are not the first or last so don't worry. Natural supplements can work, but they are not miracle pills. If your diet, training and even rest are not on point, nothing, supplement wise, we suggest will be great. All of those things I listed above come before supplements. People can bulk and cut just on proper nutrition, training and rest.
As far as supplements that help you cut, I would look into any supplement with forskolin. Two of the more popular choices, that I am aware of, are PES Shift and Performax Labs OxyMax XT. You can also find forskolin by itself, produced by some companies. The reason I would supplement with anything that contains forskolin during a cut or a lean bulk is its ability to increase lean mass and ability to decrease fat.
Forskolin was shown to elicit favorable changes in body composition by significantly decreasing body fat percentage (BF%) and fat mass (FM) as determined by DXA compared with the placebo group (p < or = 0.05).
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In addition to improving body composition, forskolin can increase testosterone levels.
Fat Mass: The colforsin group lost 4.52 kilograms (9,94 pounds) of fat, plus or minus 5.74 kilograms, while the placebo group lost only 0.51 kilograms (1.12 pounds), plus or minus 1.91 kilograms.
Lean Body Mass: The colforsin group gained 3.71 kilograms of lean body mass (8.162 pounds), plus or minus 4.07 kilograms, while the placebo group gained 1.57 kilograms (3.45 pounds), plus or minus 2.56 kilograms.
Testosterone: The Testosterone of the colforsin group rose 33.7 percent, while it decreased 18.35 percent in the placebo group.
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Male subjects in a 12-week trial experienced a 16.77 +/-33.77% increase in total testosterone compared with a 1.08 +/- 18.35% decrease in the placebo group.
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In addition to the full dose of forskolin, OxyMax XT contains Alpha-Y to help with the thermogenic effect. It is also very potent with improving one's mood and overall sense of well being.